Why I Shoot Sony APSC

In this video I walk through 5 benefits of shooting with Sony APSC, highlighting the new Sony A6700 and the Sony 16-55mm F2.8 G which I recently re-purchased. You can read more about this camera and lens here: bit.ly/48ffHL1

[@potapotatpot]

Thanks for all the years Arthur. Your casual outlook on lenses and cameras is always more impactful on my decision-making, whether I buy a lens or not.

[@PhilJoe82]

Fully agreed! Thank you for all the content you create.

[@NewStuffTV1]

It was awesome meeting you at the Kondo trip! Recently a lot of guys have tried to talk me into going full frame. For what I do, there is just no need for it when you consider the amazing quality and features you get out of the EV-10, 6400, 6600, & 6700. Combing any one of those cameras with the Zeiss 24mm, 15mm 1.8G or 16-55mm 2.8G and you could almost never distinguish the difference between a full frame equivalent.

[@rickbiessman6084]

I shoot mainly full frame and think it’s pretty silly to try and talk some one else into it. :D If APS-C delivers what you want, by all means stay with it! =)

[@davect01]

Also an APS-C shooter. For me, as a casual, weekend Dad shooter, my A6400 gives me ALL I need. I love the smaller size and lower cost

[@JeffCorcelius]

I got my a6400 because I wanted to get into Sony system and I didn't really have a large budget. Now I have a Sony FX30 and I'm able to support shoot with FX6 shooters and grow my video production business. It all started on a Sony a6400. I like the APSC option it's been affordable for me to grow and its nice to see the lens support.

[@banditalley9592]

The selling point of APSC for me is using the Sony 70-350mm for wildlife. The FF equivalent reach is the 200-600 which is massive, heavy and expensive. I'm more likely to go out shooting with a camera that is no hassle to carry long distances

[@hkum7148]

70--350 really sharp and the Zoom Range very strong the only week point is after 200 too little aperture but I dont have other better choose I still want tamron / sigma will produce 2.8 tele Zoom

[@DigiDriftZone]

Depends. You can get the Tamron 70-300 full frame and then use clear image zoom, that gives you 105-450mm (the real equivalent, not 200-600) and it's lighter and faster!

[@hkum7148]

@@DigiDriftZone 70-300 last time I also consider but give up becasue no VC another reason is the sharpness at all zoom range VC for Tele I think is importance Tamron 70300 the attractive point is pricing / weight / aperature before 150 of course no VC we can push the ISO at 5.6

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@hkum7148 what’s VC?

[@hkum7148]

@@DigiDriftZone Tamron 's Vibration Compensation

[@Rockyframes]

APCS cameras are great. But I upgraded from a6000 to a7IV and must say for a casual shooting a6000 + good lenses is still a great option. But, there is aa but. In certain situations, like night photography and low light the difference is big. Wildlife, especially birds I can shoot now with super high ISO, fast shutter speed and as long I get the photo sharp photos are great. In this sense APSC cameras unfortunately are a no go. telephoto + apsc + high ISO which is a must for this kind of photography just don't work. Pricing... the newest apsc are quite expensive. I cannot afford having apsc and full frame, sony doesn't send me gifts, lol. Casual shooting, just starting - I would say dont bother with a full frame. If you know what ISO is and need to shoot at higher ISO don't bother with APSC, just upgrade and forget.

[@rich4738]

Valid points however over the years I've seen some absolutely stunning wildlife photography with APS-C. I still believe the skill of the photographer is more important than sensor size.

[@Rockyframes]

@@rich4738 sure, I didn’t say anything about skills. That’s not my point at all. All the cameras are good, BTW this video is sponsored by Sony and it giving you reasons why you should get Sony APSC camera. In the end of the day it is a buyer choice. I say full frame is more superior than APSC, from my perspective, in certain style of shooting it easily outperform APSC. I just know this from my personal files from both systems. But this doesn’t mean it is better choice for you.

[@Gxost14]

a6000 is a 10 years old camera, and a7 IV is only 2 years old, that's why the difference is so huge. Though modern FF is less noisy than modern APS-C, modern APS-C cameras are much better than a6000. When I upgraded from a6000 to a6600, I got lighter images (by default) with less noise, especially with high ISO. a6600 is ~1.33 stops better, and it's even less noisy than a7 II.

[@Rockyframes]

@@Gxost14 Sure, maybe it was a a big jump but between a6000 and 7IV but I never looked back. All these incremental differences between all aps-c models make a difference over all. I get it but I also think it was a good choice for me to get a full frame. It really depends on what kind of photography camera is used for. I personally am FF team now, I however would like to have a spare APSC body in my backpack for certain purposes.

[@RuXsel]

From a6000...to a6400..to a7siii....now im back on my a6400 cuz of portability and weight...kitlens and one 50mm😂😂

[@photoangelov]

I'm picking up my a6700 tomorrow. Gonna be using it with a Tamron 17-70 f/2.8. Having said that, I'm not too sure about the future of Sony APS-C cameras, but then again, people doubted m4/3's future and Panasonic just slapped them in the mouth with the G9 II.

[@xhenriquefps]

If Sony is reading this, Arthur sold me into Sony APSC. I bought a ZV-E10 10 months ago because 1. It was the cheapest with a great 3 party lens selection. 2. I never had a camera before, so I didn’t want to spend that much initially. 3. The quality for videos and pictures were more than I needed on it. I love my camera! Photography changed my way of seeing the world. My dream would be a 40MP Sony APSC camera. I want a higher res sensor, but I don’t want to spend full frame prices on bodies and lenses, specially on multiple lenses, as i already have great apsc lenses.

[@giovannigio6217]

Fujifilm do have a 40MP APS-C camera, the XT-5. the Fujifilm are very classical looking with more dials but if like me you come from a Sony APS-C you'll notice the higher weight.

[@yuriythebest]

here's the thing, you may THINK you want 40 megapixels, but remember that in raw you won't have the choice of smaller, so each of your raw files will be these huge 40 megapixel monstrosities, 20-25 is much more of a sweet spot where the file sizes are manageable, unless you wanted to do architecture/wildlife exclusively and not just day to day stuff, but judging from your comment you wanted an all-rounder, so your choice was good!

[@Moshe_Dayan44]

Remember that as the sensor pixels get physically smaller, each one gets less light exposure in a shot. This means an inherent introduction of noise. If you watch any review of the 61 megapixel A7R IV compared to the 42 megapixel A7R III, you will see that there is more noise to remove for the 61 megapixel pics. Of course, there is great noise reduction/removal software, but ultimately, no matter how clever the software is, you are still removing some of the picture information along with the noise. So really what it boils down to is an optimal pixel density for each format. I'm betting that Sony tried higher resolution/higher pixel density sensors for the A6700, but they arrived at the 26 megapixel resolution for APS-C for a variety of very good reasons.

[@weswes666]

​@@Moshe_Dayan44there is not less good data with more pixels unless you start to go much smaller and start Introducing new types of noise or if smaller sensors lead to less effective sensor coverage(more edge less sensor). This means you can always sacrifice effective resolution for noise reduction in post processing. So more resolution is more of a trade of with processing and storage requirements vs flexibility and post processing time investment. And some camera's can actually change how many pixels are sampled per pixel in the RAW letting you change the resolution of the sensor before processing and storing so you can get faster raw frame rates/ smaller storage or higher resolution.

[@arandomdude7391]

The fact Sony is slowly adding "flagship" features to their apsc line convinced me of investing into a a6400 as my first camera, I hope one day we'll see a stacked sensor apsc body, that would be my "dream camera".

[@aryjarvis3161]

Fuji has one, and I don’t know if Sony designs their sensors but they make them…. They have the capability

[@iTomSawyer]

Hope the a6900 will have it, that would be really awesome

[@FlipperInc]

I just do photo work with vintage manual lenses. I still use an original a7 to get the full usage out of old adapted lenses. I do also have an a6000 but that's for more casual shooting. I love them both

[@Cezarygon]

I need to say APS-C in 90% are just better choice, specially now in 2023, this is the main standard now. Full frame camera only for professional work, where You need 45mgpx picture, or for astrophotography, where the light is most important. For rest of the use smaller sensor, lighter, cheaper, is maybe not better, but same good, and if is same good as, what the point for spend more money for FF, carry this heavy equipment. Today when APS-C lenses are so brilliant and so good, is just worthy camera. What You can buy for 4.000£ in Full frame, one camera + one good lense what will manage this 45mgpx, in Aps-c You will get body + full set of Lenses, all what You need. Full frame only if You need get best quality as possible, otherwise Aps-c just the clear winner in many aspects. I got both sizes and mostly i prefer Aps-c. 10yrs ago was different, now big company focus more on smaller format, is more popular and more affordable, and quality very close.

[@stephenwabaxter]

That was a great overview of the Sony APSC system. I have two bodies and 5/6 lenses and have been delighted with the results I have obtained over several years. My previous camera was the Nikon D40 which served me well for several years - the body and lenses were physically much larger and heavier than this Sony system.

[@D88182]

Started with the Sony, loved it, still own it. But when I found out that Fujifilm are also heavily invested in APSC and they have a huge variety of in camera processing that pictures come out edited straight out of camera, I quickly owned one too.

[@j16m02]

It's a great time to be for Sony APSC shooters right now. I started at about the Nex 5 and have kept current up to the A6700. I added FF along the way, but with all the fantastic Sony and 3rd party APSC lenses available now, I was having a hard time justifying my FF gear. I didn't use it all that often anyway because of the size. Then came the A7CR. What a quandary! It appears to be as good a FF body as my A7R5, and as good an APSC body as my A6700. It means I can shoot FF when the spirit moves me, but mostly shoot all my great APSC lenses with no size penalty. It almost seems too good to be true. Like I must be missing the fatal flaw to my theory somehow. A great problem to have I guess.😁

[@DigiDriftZone]

That's a good observation, it seems there is little reason to get into APS-C in 2023, you can often get a full frame option that's smaller, lighter and sometimes even cheaper! - I saved money replacing my X-S20 with the ZV-E1 and superior lenses.

[@maggnet4829]

The flaw in the A7CR is the price. In case that's no concern, I totally agree that it combines both worlds perfectly.

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@maggnet4829 Yes, that's a point, I suppose with the A6700 APS-C right now, you get something that's a bit "average" all around. With full frame, you have to choose: 1. ZV-E1 - get a beast of a video camera, A7S III killer, with the amazing A7R IV AI chip. But only 12 megapixels. 2. A7C-II - a bit of a compromise camera with APS-C has some advantages/disadvantages. 3. A7RC - also a bit of a compromise for video but a beast of a photo camera. But in any case you get a more compact setup, more depth of field control with more compact lenses, flexibility to use the big super fast zooms/primes, more light gathering, less noise, an insane ISO range that goes to almost 500k (on the ZV-E1 at least), that magical full frame look, etc, etc.

[@maggnet4829]

@@DigiDriftZone It's tricky right now to decide. If you work without a gimbal, but with Sony native stabilised lenses, I think the FF cameras have a big advantage. Other than that it really depends on what lenses you like to use (crop factors differ wildly in video mode), if you need 120fps or 8k, if you need the last bit of low light performance and if you shoot stills as well. Those questions will lead you to different bodies. The a6700 indeed is somewhat of a jack of all trades and a master of non.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@maggnet4829 indeed. Personally as a formerly photo first shooter that looked at the a7s III with wonder since it was released, I decided to challenge myself with a video first camera and got the ZV-E1, no regrets. The camera is absolutely unreal and it’s finding new ways to impress me daily - it’s so far ahead of APS-C, I didn’t expect this kind of margin. I think for a KZbinr without an endless budget and wanting something compact, it really stands in a class of its own and the dynamic stabe is very useful. The photos are great too (especially low light) but 12MP and no mechanical shutter are clear disadvantages for photography.

[@Jonathantuba]

I am principally a wildlife photographer and have been shooting with Sony Full Frame, no less than the A1 and 400 GM being my main gear. However, with the release of the A6700 I got one and the 70-350 G as a lightweight walkabout setup. I must say I am absolutely loving it for its compactness and most of all the weight, only 1.1kg. Incredible for a camera and lens that has the reach to shoot wildlife with high-resolution images! I have no intention of changing to APS-C, (not unless Sony brought out an APS-C camera to equal the A1 and a fast telfocal prime) but my A6700 is perfect as a secondary body, and is certainly what I will take when general traveling not specifically for wildlife photography. It is so lightweight it goes with me virtually everywhere, so I have a decent camera if I chance upon a photographic opportunity even when abroad on business, as I am at present in China.

[@MegaWeitzel]

You already own a 20MP APS-C camera with A1-like performance. It is called the A1

[@pudding2675]

@@MegaWeitzel You missed the point. The point was a setup similar enough to his A1 at a fraction of the bulk. I mean, it is kinda asinine to assume someone would want a second setup just for the sake of having a carbon copy of their first?

[@MegaWeitzel]

@@pudding2675 The A6700 is just 200g lighter than the A1. With a lens such as the 70-350 that isn't much of a difference

[@peterbernhard6087]

There is also the A7CR.. it should outperform the A6700 in most points. But i am ok with 200g more weight and better ergonomics.

[@Starrider.]

You are my most trusted channel on the whole subject. Love how casual and in plain English you can explain stuff. I have my 6300 for 4 years now and really unsure if I should purchase a A7C II for low light situation.. which would mean i also need to purchase at least 1 FF lens... or just upgrade to 6700. I almost completely decided for A7C II and this video made it suddenly a way harder choice xD It started as a hobby and reference gathering for concept art, but I now kinda want to earn some money on the side with shooting portraits

[@derJackistweg]

1 stop. That´s the difference.

[@Starrider.]

@@derJackistweg so 1.4 on APS-C is about 2.8 on FF?

[@rickbiessman6084]

I hear you. The a6300 was my first camera, and at the start of the year I bought an A7C. I still have both and at weddings and the like, I use them side by side. In my opinion, the upgrade was well worth it for me. Would it be worth it for you? I’d say if you’re in control of the lighting situation, stay with APS-C. In that scenario, FF has no advantage over an A6700. If you do shoot in environments where you have limited control over lighting, I’d recommend going FF. Obviously something crazy like medium format would be even better, but price and portability kinda argue in favor of FF IMO. Regarding crop factor and aperture: to calculate which aperture creates which depth of field, APS-C converts to FF by multiplying times 1.5. So an f/1.4 APS-C lens gives you the depth of field of f/2.1 on FF. The same is NOT true for how much light gets in. f/1.4 is f/1.4, regardless of APS-C or FF. I don’t have enough technical knowledge to explain how to properly compare how much light gets on the sensor at a certain aperture on APS-C and FF respectively. I shoot a lot of things either wide open or stopped down to like f/6.3, and full frame is better in low light. That’s all I know :D

[@1971stretch]

I use the 16-55 as my standard walkaround lens with the A6400. It's a great combo. Love the channel - keep flying the flag for Sony kit.👍

[@TVe200]

The price difference between a6700 and a7iv is not that big. And a7Cii will be even closer to a6700. I gave up APS-C and bought a7iv in January 2022. AF with a7iv and 100-400 GM are 3 times better than with a6500 and 70-350 G.

[@ejavenger]

Love the channel but for me I just think Sony bodies are not ergonomically comfortable. I shoot Canon and have a lot of money invested in Canon glass. I don't bash Sony because they are great but at the same time I feel Sony updates their cameras way too much and forces its users to upgrade when they really don't need to. Canon seems to keep their bodies around a little longer than Sony. I also enjoy Fujifim for APS-C. They are all great but for some reason I love the film simulations Fuji provides and they have excellent dynamic range and low light. I had the A6600 and A6400 and A73 and just couldn't get into it like I did with my Sonys. But to each their own. I will never bash a Sony but for me it just didn't make sense.

[@lichuuuuu]

APS-C all the way my man! Way cheaper and same performance. Light stuff can be fixed in post, leaving focal distance as the only difference which can be adjusted with different lenses, which are, again, super cheap.

[@phuongnampham9298]

I've been into photography for 5 years and still stick with my trustworthy a6000 and the kit lens. As a hobbyist, it serves everything I need - for street photography, for my vacation and I even do videos as well. Had my first job last week, and instead of seeking expensive cameras out there, I still used my a6000 and hired more expensive lenses just because I needed wider apertures. It has been an amazing journey with this little friend and I think the a6000 will still be in my pocket for some more years. I find no need to replace it with a more expensive camera at the moment.

[@pavelvon6147]

I thought this way as well, but then I decided and bought the a6400. I tried a6300 and was not sure, that body can change much, but the lenses will do. How I was wrong with a6400! Yes, the IQ doesn’t pop up that much - even if it does for sure, specially with low light noise reduction. But the way of focusing, response, not overheating whatsoever, build quality, viewfinder, buttons … I knew, that I’m home. I really felt, that in this case, the body moved me forward which I wasn’t expected. Otherwise, what kicked me up were lenses: Sony 24 F1.8 and Sigma 65mm F1.4. Supported with Sony 18-105 f4 and 10-18 f4 from a6000 era.

[@brainfreeze1925]

It's cool that you the A6000 still works for you. I sold mine for the A6300 a few months after I got it. What I discovered is that A6000's chassis flexed whenever I attached heavy, old SLR lenses to it and that it wasn't properly sealed for the elements. I'm primarily an outdoor shooter. Regarding the kit lens...if you like to print your images big I found it inadequate. But this is for my primarily outdoor use shooting land, water, and nightscapes. But I have thought about picking up a used one to use as a dedicated webcam and backup body since I have a range of lenses.

[@aldimaulanaadrianto]

come on sony, make the ZV E10 mark ii with a6700 as the basic but just 4K60 only, would be perfect!!!!!

[@nickscott8488]

Funny, when I started watching this and heard the words "This video is sponsored by.."..thought you were about to say Squarespace!

[@shuttlebadminton24]

Thanks for the paid promotion but regardless of what you just said, sony apsc cameras are great I own a600 and a5100 for years and they are great cameras Every time I take a picture with a good lens it turned out to be a great picture.

[@kelvinwhite2901]

Hi Arthur R. I have to say I enjoyed this video it was informative for me. About 18 months ago I decided to exchange my heavy Nikon D7000 + 17 / 50 and a 70 / 300 lens as they were not getting enough use. I am a Nikon user and so purchased the Nikon Zfc with an 18 / 140 Nikor lens and they work really well together I find myself taking this camera out far more when ever I am out for a walk. As a non professional it works for me.

[@tvphan7354]

The d7000 is too heavy. D3500,Z50,Zfc get the most use.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

So, we see camera bodies shrinking to credit card size. What's that baseball bat size thing glommed onto the body? OH. That's the LENS. Photographic processes have gone quite a bit backward in many aspects, over the decades. Who cares so much about AI, autofocus on moving dog's ears, when many pros have to spend countless hours in "post processing" cursing at photoshop or some other software morass. Geez Louise. Time to dust off an old Mamiya medium format film camera.

[@davidsykes2979]

I love your channel, keep up the great work. What APS lens would you recommend for an A6400 that will give you the best bokah ?

[@rayk36]

Can Sony please upgrade their pancake lens for APS-C?

[@albert333pool]

My favorite videos of yours is the 35mm 1.8 review... Do you still consider it your favorite lens?

[@andrewr889]

I do feel like APS-C cameras have lost a little bit of their identity in the past few years. Would like to see it move to an insanely small form factor, paired with small lenses to make them even better for travel. Personally prefer the full frame compact options at the moment.

[@rickbiessman6084]

Same for me. I have an a6300, which was my first camera, and an A7C which I got for better low light performance. I use primes only and the Samyang lenses are small even for APS-C standards (not counting pancakes which don’t have as wide an aperture).

[@thienlo]

Same here. Now I just keep my A7C and Ricoh GR.

[@Ted_Michaels]

What I do not get about Sony APSC cameras.....there does not seem to be a good selection of lenses from Sony for APSC - for f2.8 - there is no 24-70 zoom, no 80 to 200. Also, at any f stop, there is not a portrait lens (85 or 90) that I can see. Comments please...Is the expectation that if I were to go w/the APSC that I should look to Sigma of Tamron?

[@vanhunghoang6335]

APSC is good for video and ordinary photos. But to shoot against a sunrise, we need full frame for max dynamic range.

[@nyohaku]

Another excellent video; straightforward, clear, relaxed, with no tedious repetition or distractions. Thank you, thank you.

[@RiccardoCipolletta]

I really wish sony would make a 70-200 for apsc

[@onlyonecannoli3952]

Or...you could purchase a Sony A7RIV and have both a Full-Frame (61 megapixels) and APS-C (26.2 megapixels) camera all in one body...with a much better viewfinder. You will lose the onboard flash, but that's about the only negative.

[@bobfleckcreative]

Arthur, you have helped me to see the light. I have enjoyed APS-C cameras over the years but lured myself into full-frame because it seemed like the mountaintop. But you showed a year or two ago how portraits with one and then the other showed very little difference. Other than much better EVFs, full frames were just bigger with bigger lenses, heavier and why bother? The clincher is the a6700 with all the dazzling features and nice size with a plethora of super lenses and even smallish FE lenses, like the 1.8s feel just fine with it. Frankly, APS-C is lucky to have a champion in you. Thanks for all your advice.

[@CamillaI]

I have bought an A6700 to support my A1 😢

[@vvlad78]

My thoughts down in the comments section below: if Arthur sponsored by Sony, we will never see any third party lenses reviews anymore..

[@ArthurR]

😂 there will be plenty!

[@egm0450]

Wow... I never thought of the Hoovies Garage of Sony Cameras till now. Awesome joke and two amazing creators!

[@ipsfryt]

Hoovie's Darkroom, surely.

[@sdddlt]

Since Sony never updated the a5100, I eventually switched to the a7c because it is comparable in size to the a6000 lineup. Sadly, neither one fits as comfortably in a jacket pocket as the a5100 does. APS-C emount for me was foremost about capable but stealthy cameras which could be hidden in a pocket and which could be quickly drawn to take a snapshot. Now I carry my a7c mostly like any old DSLR with a strap around my neck. Maybe it's time to buy a Ricoh GR.

[@catalin-ap]

As this is sponsored by Sony: Hope that Sony one day will severly and easily increase the usability of their non-joysticked cameras, by doing all of these: 1. allow key customisation, so that the d-pad 4 directional buttons can directly move the focus point, WITHOUT having to select "focus standard" 2. allow the customisation of any key, for the function "switch EVF/LCD", and also allow the customisation of the "up" key on the d-pad (which is unfortunately locked with the switch EVF/LCD function) 3. as a continuation of the very appreciated function "camera standby on screen closed" on recent cameras with such screens (fully rotatable ones), allow button customisation with this function 4. improve the touch-n-drag option on the screen, when viewing through the EVF; on the a6700 it feels as semi-laggy and non-fluid, as the a7 III... Or, simply, just include a joystick in all the enthusiast+ -level cameras, FF, or APS-C. :) Thanks!

[@Thunderbird1337]

Great video. But the point with the wider DoF on APS-C is not really a valid point in my opinion. I mean... you can just close the aperture a bit on the FF camera, then you have the same DoF (the better ISO performance of the FF should compensate that). But, conversely, wouldn't that also mean that Full-Frame has no "smaller DoF advantage"? Theoretically yes, but the problem is the availability of lenses. In most cases there simply are no FF equivalent APS-C lenses available (for a 85mm f1.4 FF you would need a 56mm f0.9 APS-C).

[@withoutpassid]

Your comment is SPOT-ON, my friend!

[@-grey]

I actually have some old aps-c film for an underwater camera.

[@jenieaditya]

thinking about getting myself an APSC ecosystem.. I'm a father with 2 kids. I'd love to take every moment I spent with them with a better quality picture than my Galaxy Note 8. to think that I need to hold a FF camera for all day, with those big lenses (not to mention expensive too), I need something lighter, easy to use, easy to handle, and more importantly, fits my budget (around 1.000 dollar or so).. thinking about getting Sony 6400 with OSS lenses, but Sony 6700 seems sooo tempting 🤤🤤

[@jof1954]

Not all FF lenses are big. Just check Sony's primes: 24mm, 40mm & 50mm They are tiny. Even smaller than many APSC lenses.

[@maggnet4829]

You can indeed go full frame with small lenses. The main difference is the price for the body, if you are willing to consider third party lenses. Most people just tend to forget, that e.g. f1.2 on APSC equals f1.8 on FF. They underestimate as well the iso advantage of FF, if you compare two bodies of the same generation. It more than compensates for the loss of light. As a father myself, I'd recommend you a camera from the newest generation (A7CR, A7CII or A6700), for the reason that their autofocus is so much better, whicj is so important with impatient and active kids.

[@18yearsoldnot]

If you have an open mind and forget about features and have an appreciation for 3d pop, vibrant colours, basically the exact opposite to your note 8… You’re basically obliged to get a used Leica tl and a used 35mm 1.4 summilux. It will only set you back $1500 and the tl 35mm 1.4 is the greatest aps-c lens ever made. You will not get a better rendering lens even for Sony full frame 😘

[@Joh146]

Take the 6400, it´s a great choice for the first years. Don´t fall in the full-format hole. And you don´t need the 6700 to start.

[@maggnet4829]

@@18yearsoldnot Lens choice is a matter of taste. Further, I'd not recommend a manual lens to any beginner, even less an expensive one. If one wants to start manual, get a vintage lens for 100 bucks. Plenty of interesting options out there.

[@trainspotter_brenzbahn]

A good complement to the Sony E 16-55 F2.8 G is the Tamron 11-20 F2.8 Di lll-A RXD. I hope Sigma brings out the 50-140 F2.8 for APS-C soon, possibly with a teleconverter similar to Fuji. Then my Holy Trinity would be perfect. Thanks for the video. 👍🏼👋🏼

[@jhirse3547]

Oh yes, that Sigma 50-140mm f2.8 I'm waiting for, too!

[@nguyenduythanh3809]

my trio : 16-55 f2.8, 11-20 f2.8, sigma 56mm f1.4. i'm thinking about adding 70-350 to the list ;)

[@Lucamitm]

Define when you take full frame for low light? What you this the threshold for new apsc sensors ? I have a sony a6000 and a7iii and I’m wondering if to get the new a6700 for travel. Thanks

[@SingerAuto1967]

I figured the A7C or the A7c2 would have converted you to full time full frame

[@edventures9884]

The hoovies garage of cameras 😂

[@tharakatimes]

I started my APSC journey because of your videos... Thanks alot

[@PhotoTrekr]

Sony apsc cameras and lenses are a great way to get into the Sony system. And, as you mentioned, you might not always want to use full frame cameras and lenses. I just returned from a trip where I chose to take two a6600 bodies and two full frame lenses. I have two A7R5 bodies that I could have taken, but the a6600 bodies were perfectly fine for what I wanted to shoot plus being smaller and lighter. Nice to have a choice of Sony cameras and lenses.

[@NickinNashville]

I have the a6600 with the sigma 35,16,55, none of my footage looks as sharp and crisp as yours, or color graded as well it seems, I can’t figure out how to make it beautiful like your b roll footage. Could you do a video of your workflow from film to export ? Would be the most useful apsc video on KZbin

[@ArthurR]

I barely touch it most times. Yea I could do a video about my method.

[@rogeralves4387]

​@@ArthurRplease do one.

[@JayJay-he9bk]

Nothing beats the price and the size. What’s your favorite lens

[@floatingrabbit3556]

Here's the thing about Sony camera's..... they hold up quite well. I am still using the Sony 6300 after all these years, found my way around it's limitations which in turn helped me focus more on my work which is making documentaries and doing photography professionally and it's been a work horse. I have seen many of my friends move to full frame and still struggle to produce great results. I live by one rule and that is, Date the body but marry the lens. In short, I chose to invest in the best possible glass that my wallet could afford me and I have never looked back. The larger bodies and even medium format camera have been very enticing but in the end what I do profesisonally could even be achieved by a smartphone so with that in mind, what Sony has done for the APS-c line has been nothing but pure genius. The technology indeed has come very far. I see myself using the 6300 for another 5 years before I ever consider upgrading. Truly a fantastic line up the 6000 series has been and still is all the way down to the GOAT the sony 6000 itself.

[@rickbiessman6084]

Still got my a6300 too, and even though it has its limitations, I love it to this day!

[@zapadakofflv8560]

Try the a6700 and you will be amazed at the speed and accuracy of the AF. I have a6000 and a6400 and they are just sitting on the shelf.

[@prabalplaha4583]

Hi Arthur, is it true that if you use an Apsc and a full frame at the same equivalent F stop(say F4 on APSC and F6.3 on Full frame) , Same shutter speed, same equivalent lens (APSC 50mm Full frame 75mm) , then the full frame and APSC will have the same depth of field and Full frame will be better as it has better low light capability despite using a slightly higher ISO? Then the APSC's only advantage is lower cost, smaller size and longer reach with same lens?

[@SpyderGT]

I just got 6700 recently and its huge difference from 6100 I used last 3 years. Not just on paper but how everything works in real life. I using Tamron 17-70 and Sony 70-350 and happy with that. I just need Sony 15mm 1.4 ))

[@CLtech05]

bro you have my dream combo right there. I wish I had that system lol. Currently a 6100 user.

[@G.with.camera]

Can u say more about differences between 6100 and 6700 in real life? I’m a 6100 and 6500 owner and I think about upgrade to 6700.

[@CLtech05]

@@G.with.camera I don't have it, but based on the reviews I've seen is mainly on video where this takes the mile ahead

[@electriccatvisualarts2397]

I use the 15mm 1.4 on an FX30. It is excellent. Small, light, bright and sharp!

[@SpyderGT]

@@G.with.camera much easier to make a good shot with less efforts. I don’t know why but on my a6100 manual settings didn’t work good. I didn’t like results. Maybe I had a bad copy. Even my 6000 before that was better with manual. But auto on 6100 was much better than a6000. Especially autofocus. But on 6700 everything works perfect and focus is amazing. Pictures during lowlight much better. Battery life way better. Ergonomic much better.

[@orlandoricardo2328]

I greatfull yor video 4years ago when A6600 released I purchased under EU in B&H Thank you Arthur for that video I have never forgot few month before the pandemic I received the body and I keep this camera as my primary I plan to buy it the new A6700 body I love my APC-S camera cheaper lens found for third party and sony too. Once again you are part of my team of shooters with Sony APC-S cameras.

[@justy1337]

I think the comfort of carrying a less expensive setup is definitely one of my biggest reasons to go with APS-C. I agree the A6700 with the 16-55 makes a great combo

[@jaredalbin5658]

haha, the Hoovie's garage...you probably get that lot. No lie though..even your speaking cadance has some similarity sometimes haha ;)

[@thesonyaps-cuser]

I am a Sony APS-C shooter, I love using that format

[@kokhualow3419]

Hi I've the A6600 and the A7iv. I use for landscape, street and wildlife photography (birds). After using the A6600, I was able to get almost (not 100%) as good pics of birds as the A7iv. I want to sell all my full frame and by the A6700 as my main as I find that I can get many more lenses if I downgrade to apsc. I might rent the A6700 for a weekend soon to test its capability before pulling the trigger. Wish me luck!

[@cgazlan]

I used to dream of buying full frame. I stopped dreaming and sticking to my a6300 and only buying those great apsc lens that recently came out...

[@rollandelliott]

I like the tamron 17-70mm f/2.8 APS lens but no sony APS bodies have dual card slots. The only body it works on with dual slots is a fuji aps ones. I politely disagree with the number of good lenses for APS bodies. most of them are consumer junk ones with low light transmission. the number of 2.8 or faster aps lensese is very very low.

[@KlipsenTube]

I sometimes wish they had upgraded the AF on the NEX-7 and left image stabilisation to the OSS. I realise that IBIS may be better in some cases - even combined with OSS - but the original and great idea with the E-mount was to create minuscule bodies and lenses, but now the A6600 and later are getting as big and heavy as the A100 to A700, and the majority of superior lens designs are full frame, although a few APS-C models get the G sticker (but not the GM).

[@dps6198]

My first digital camera was an EOS 10D. I had zero experience with digital. I bought the 10D because of the price from a seller on Fred Miranda. I used that camera for 15 years. When. I married and gave it to my wife. She is a natural at photography. We upgraded the 10D to a 40D. Then finally to an EOS RP. She is 4-11 the RP fits her hands perfectly. The photos she takes are no less than amazing.

[@ckdesignlab]

I noticed that you changed your channel art to "The Sony APS-C Channel" Will you continue to review other products or just APSC gear? Great video as always. I agree about full frame. I would love to upgrade, but is it really worth it for me? Not yet, as photography and videography is not my full-time job yet. Maybe 25% now, but until I am 100% in to photography and video, then APSC is more than enough for me.

[@bhspenceryt]

Thats a little bit of mental gymnastics to make the claim that greater depth of field is an advantage of APSC for portrait work. It's not like it's had to stop down in a full frame.

[@johndonaldson5126]

Arthur. I propose doing a review of the a74 with Sony 24-70 vs the a6700 with Sigma 18-50. They are roughly equivalent. I bought the a74 for better low light capability but I just don't see improvements over my a6700. Thanks in advance.

[@przybylskipawel]

BTW IMHO of all the APS-C platform Sony is the worst choice. It has lowest max resolution, slowest drive mode, worst EVF (poor optics), worst quality rear-screen (if we consider top body in each platform), worst ergonomics with all the bodies having essentially the same form-factor; it is the only platform that has no hybrid camera with dual card slot, it has the worst quality +4K 30p (when we consider top models in each platform), and worst thermal management. Also it has abysmal rolling shutter except for the newest a6700 which is merely decent, but this is still a second place. Its slow motion options and IQ is only worse than Fuji but again only thanks to the a6700. Without that it is way behind the Canon. It lags far behind Fujii in video options (no open gate or >4K recording). Granted, it has the best AF, but the gap is small. The only real advantage is lens selection, although again Fuji is not that far behind. So it is basically a waste of the APS-C lens lineup. I would have long replaced my m43 cameras if the Sony had a body that could match not only G9 II or OM-1 but even GH6, EM-1 III or G9. Even a6700 is not good enough to make me ditch my Canon R7 (I use it with EF glass). At the peak of the rumour hype I sold my R7 before the anouncement of a6700 but I decide to buy the R7 back again, when Sony a6700 was announced. Sony needs something MUCH better. Something that can be squeezed even from the same sensor.

[@UncleAlpha1]

I started out with a6000. Then I wanted to be cool and go full frame; end up buying an a7iii, first few months was exciting but i eventually got tired of caring the heavy bulky camera around. Traveling with it was a hassle and a dread each time pulling it out. I’m just a casual shooter that primarily photograph my family outings trips. It’s been a year since I picked up the a7iii cause I end up just taking photos with my iPhone for convenience. People who have kids can relate. Now I want to go back taking photos. Just sold my a7iii and going back to apsc, decided now if I should get a6400 or a6700, hmm 🤔

[@itsROMPERS...]

So: apsc is close to as good as ff at a much smaller size and lower cost, but ff will always produce better photos and video, but at a higher cost, and with heavier, bulkier equipment. Is that about it? Apsc will be "good enough" for most purposes, and you might not need the additional quality you get from ff.

[@marc_likes_marketing]

i LOVE my a7iii, BUT my a6100 gets plenty of love with my 16mm and 56mm sigma lenses. i just love those lenses so much.

[@USGrant21st]

Sony APS-C lens 16-55/2.8 (24-84/4.3 FF equiv) is heavier than Sony 20-70/4 and also cost more. It makes zero sense buying APS-C lens when the FF is better in every way.

[@gbwalther3198]

By the way, did u notice the tricky move the Godfather of Mafia Filmworks had at 4:18, as he slyly shifted the cam, the LENS CAP turned into a filter of some sort, probably a ND variable Mafia Filmworks filter. Tricky, huh? 😎😎

[@UrbanoModa]

Your channel is always informative and great, but this video should be deleted. There is no denying you have some experience with cameras, you have always been humble and polite with your reviews, I personally nearly bought a 6700 based on your review until you said you can't see any problems with it just being one memory slot. Every (established )single promoter for Sony on KZbin channels who also rely on revenue stream had the courage to say one single slot was madness and not good. In this video you mentioned you would not turn too a APSC unless the " lighting conditions were ideal"? You mean that's the only benefit you feel a full frame camera can support is low light conditions? Photocells, receptors, shallow depth of field, portrait advantages and full frame . dynamic range , tones and colours wasn't mentioned between the two types? 5 Reasons - will most people be adding over 200 third party lenses to their photography bag, or just having between 3-5 lenses that get the job done commercially or for fun! Can full frame not use manual old vintage or manual lenses, like yes. Maybe you are in a position to buy 200 third party lenses because you are keen to promote Sony but the i bet 99.9% of people watching this video don't? You forgot to mention that Sony's latest full frame camera right back from the A7III give the option of crop mode, I have one on my lenses which i utilise to crop on my A74? APSC lens are optically better these days, you are right, but so are full frame lenses, you made it sound like APCS lenses are better, but optically they are no all great? Was the side of the motorbike engine the best example of the 16-55mm 2.8 work, including the clipped highlights with an ND filter you always use? 70% of the highlights in the sky examples behind your wife's head are blown out?> Why would you want to use an 85MM 1.8 full frame portrait lens on an APSC camera, its a full frame lens and is quite well known for being excellent at its job. Just get a zoom lens like all the ones you have reviewed on your channel but now you steer them away form all your great videos to consider full frame on APSC? what's the point of all your hard working great works to get to this point in promoting the wrong lenses for the wrong camera? I know the answer is it helps, its because Sony support your bank account? Just being honest sorry... You don't have to step down on a APSC compared to an full frame for depth of field? manufacturers of cameras be scratching their heads on that one? " stylised choice" its works for you ..albeit you corrected yourself on full frame at the end of that sentence. You said if you look at history, with regards too the A6000, is that the history of APSC in your hands and why are you only mentioning Sony and saying it was the best in its field? The Fujijfilm XT1 was released in 2014 in the same Year and for photography that outshined the A6000 by far? So was the Sony A7II November 2014? Sony A7s 2014, white a few to be fair...Albeit you mention the fight between APSC and Full Frame within its own field keep changing rapidly. If Sony trickled all is technology down to APSC " which you're a big fan off" doesn't that mean this whole video is void and makes no sense? Or did you mean you are a big fan because it makes sense for those less fortunate to buy cheaper gear with better tech later on. You said it yourself, the full frame tech trickles down to the APCS range, this admission means you are saying full frame is the better choice? point of the video was? content content content ££$$$$ New technology we see in APSC is as good as the new full frame technology or the previous full frame models passing it down to APSC? which one is it, although we can concur the A6700 you are promoting for Sony is a great camera and great at so much inc tracking and AF tracking. I love your channel man, you and your family do great things for the photographic community a lot of the time, things like this promoted help and support for a lot of people. You can see this below by all the APSC user comments or people stuck on purchase confusion. The truth its a business for you, even though you have passion for photography, it's falling into Sony love/ money. Regards Sony full frame , APSC, Fujifilm, Canon and Nikon user which just take photos.

[@gigihanmandarin]

What magic potion have you been drinking Arthur? You look greater and better than when you first started!

[@explodingheavens]

I shoot apsc but I move to FF soon, why: I love bokeh, want to shoot from 12mm on zoom, not primes(not to change lens every time), with maximum resolution and sensor size. There was no quality uw lens for apsc when I was deciding, and now I'm decided. Problem with cameras: hi res can do iso30000 max for video, low res can do iso400k for stills or video, but in good lightning its 12mp vs 60mp. What a dilemma. Not even mentioning quality of electronic shutter. No all I'm one camera, you can only choose one priority field you want it use for

[@d30gaijin]

Great video! Congratulations on the Sony sponsorship. I too shoot both full frame and APS-C, Sony A7c & a Leica M digital camera. APS-C I go with my Sony A6600 and a Leica TL2. Lens wise it's Sony, Sigma, Leica, & Voigtlander. It all makes for lots of fun and great photos.

[@mariomadriz]

I always thought you looked and sounded a lot like Hoovie! Any familiarity?

[@jared3622]

Im still using the a6400. Pair it with the laowa 65mm macro and the FF sony 20mm G, and it is able to capture some incredible photos with little to no drawbacks from the sensor size. Full frame should not be on the upgrade path for everyone.

[@Vndrew_ARW]

Your content never disappoints! Mind sharing the minimal wrist strap you’re rocking?

[@gbwalther3198]

Let's face the facts. Godfather of Mafia Filmworks, that's the real name. That alone must and will be the only reason to get apsc cams. Period. End of Story. Only One feature film, no sequels. 😎😎

[@dr.shamsulbinmuhamad8739]

yes, worry-free camera (in terms of accidental damage). Happy vacation.

[@SatanSupimpa]

This channel played a major role on my decision of buying my a6000, that still being used and abused to this day. But getting more interested in video, the a6700 sounds like a great upgrade (that I can't afford 😆)

[@Ashleyapples]

please sony give me an updated version of 5100 🙏

[@relaxvideo3d]

exactly!! no 4k is needed, only sharp 1080/60p without overheating!! thats my dream too

[@Ashleyapples]

@@relaxvideo3d I loved the 5100 for its easy one hand flip screen up. I don't mind sacrificing the hotshot or moving it to the side, but a easy flip in a small camera that you can travel and do selfies with ease is my dream and I wish Sony updates it and its color science. the 5100 is smaller than 6000.

[@vishalv]

I don't get why people talk of "more reach" in cropped sensor. That's just cropping. You can crop a full frame pic too. It's like praising the digital zoom.

[@justanothernoobe]

This is all very good - your videos are always on point with explanations and comparisons that make it easy for the average Joe Bloggs to understand. But the question I'm pretty sure is on all our minds is ... how did you manage to get such a stunningly beautiful wife? Astounding work, sir ;)

[@RangerRon75]

this video has explained things about the Sony a6700 better than most I have looked at. my Sony HDR CX900 video cam's audio has gone bad and my Nikon D5100 photo/video camera is OLD and down to one battery out of 3 that still works. Not the quality of the Sony for sure. So I have been looking at several Sony photo/video cameras and the 6700 is one of them. However, I shoot mostly videos and photos of local musicians in small venues , bars. And post them on KZbin. I have yet to find a review that deals with the low light and sound quality that the built in Mics have for such a setting with the 6700 or any other camera . That is my priority. Not nature,

[@v_stands_for_value124]

If u like the sensor size get a Fujifilm XH2s which deletes Sony apsc from the world and competes with flagship FF

[@phillipborja]

Hi Arthur. Can you review the Yong Nuo 11mm and 16mm? Would really appreciate it. :)

Have been with you all the way….and….after a journey into full frame….i’m back in APS-C! Always love your videos!!

[@GaryJahman]

Reason for checking your vids is the “amateur” or “hobbyist” view on things making it more relatable for most people 👍👍👍

[@btgnuyen12]

I know putting an aps-c lens on a full frame body decreases megapixel in jpeg file. However, what about raw files?

[@huwkelvinmorgan3575]

Very nicely done as always, i have fallen in love with my Sony a6300 matched with a Sigma f1.4 16mm Lens just does such a good job every time it is needed, you are the one that pushed me to getting this camera and lens via watching your videos so thank you for showing me the correct combination of camera and lens.

[@RageCage1701]

If you have a ton of existing gear, then there's a case to be made for APS-C. But if you're new to the system, especially given the release of the A7Cii, I just don't see why you wouldn't take the plunge and go full frame. The difference between the a6700 and the A7Cii is $600 for the body which, in the scheme of things, isn't that much -- you'll spend more than that on glass in the first year with either system. This is coming from a former a 6500 shooter. I sold my camera a couple years ago and am planning on buying the A7Cii. The biggest advantage to me of shooting aps-c was size and portability both of the bodies and the glass, but that's much less the case in 2023 than it was in say 2016 (edit: in other words, you can be a walk-around / portable / travel shooter guy with full frame now, you aren't lugging a bathtub around your neck anymore). If you're dealing with similarly sized systems, which consumers are now, you go with the bigger sensor every time.

[@chrisbrannan3784]

I have been looking at new gear the last month or so and initially had the same thought, "it's not much more" BUT, that's for each component. If you are just starting out (or have all apsc stuff) you will need all new lenses also, which can have the same price gap. Get a camera and 2-3 lenses and the difference easily comes close to 2k or more to go full frame. Not such an easy choice at that point.

[@G34pard]

How is 600$ not that much , for this price you can have an a6400

[@Joh146]

​@@G34pard @G34pard That is the problem, for many fotographer is 600 $ much money and the limit of her budget. For my first used A6000 I paid 260 EUR. And I love the pictures, one of them became picture of the hour in Europes biggest photo community. You don´t need always fullframe.

[@angeloplayforone]

For $600 you can buy a lens.

[@vuquangnam2305]

Thank you for your video, it's really good and easy to understand. I decided to choose APS-C after watching it

[@edwardlee4029]

Why do you re-purchase the Sony 16-55 F2.8 lens? And why did you sold it in the first place?

[@DerTschuli]

If there was just a APSC Sony Camera with a good Display...

[@jaysun070476]

Fired up my old A6000 the other day and didnt realize how small the viewfinder was lol. Can barley see anything out of it lol.

[@YOSRI1990]

very good explain i want to who is the best between A7iii and this A6700