"Articulateds in Appalachia" DVD from Sunday River Productions

MORE INFO & DVD AT: www.sundayriver... 2-6-6-6 fully loaded, engine and tender weighed more than a million pounds.

[@euclideszoto997]

To see an Allegheny 2-6-6-6 restored would be incredible. Never even dreamed a Big Boy would be restored but it happened. Well here's to dreaming it can happen to the Allegheny.

[@deanow3631]

I think there are two left. Henry Ford museum and the rail museum in Scranton PA. I did get to see the one at the Henry Ford museum.

[@johnbiggers7909]

@@deanow3631 The other Allegheny 1604 is at the B&O rr museum in Baltimore Maryland.

[@_PJW_]

Damn! I love these 2-6-6-6s. Some millionaires collect cars. I would collect these machines.

[@connorflaherty175]

In my opinion, from I have read, I think the reason why the C&O and N&W were rivals besides being the largest coal carriers in the US is that they both boasted the finest steam power ever. The C&O had their commercially built superpower engines and the N&W had their homemade steam giants.

[@2011traincrazy]

Agreed. How many videos are there of an N&W J chasing down a class A at Christiansburg?

[@manga12]

I can put it to rest with an artical from the c and o historical society magazine I read on the truth of the allegheny h8 and what the c and o really wanted of the engines and why they basicly went for broke having the most powerful of all time and built by Lima the Cadallac of steamlocomotives. my reading of the artical starts here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXyblqt_nb2YpdE it was to commemorate the one year count down to the 150th anniversery of the golden spike. I love the h8 so big and rugged and and screams america

[@Parovoz0251]

Nah. The finest/best Steam power in this era definitely came from SNCF and ČSD.

[@thunderbird1921]

Add the Union Pacific and you may have the steam trifecta. Big Boys, FEFs, Challengers and 9000s were the commercially built giants (bigger was often better in the eyes of UP).

[@whispofwords2590]

@@Parovoz0251 ...huh? As in the European roads? Youre joking right?

[@Patrick_3751]

Such as shame that these amazing locomotives had such a short life and never got to show their true potential. But at least we can still see them in operation thanks to these clips!

[@Mcnibbus]

Who else is here when 1309 is running again

[@thunderbird1921]

@@Mcnibbus Me! Great to at least see one of the Allegheny's "little" sisters come back to life.

[@Mcnibbus]

@@thunderbird1921 lol it’s still a shame that 734 is down though

[@johnhagan7742]

One way you could say it was that the Alleghenys had an unknown side, and I actually have something very similar to what the Alleghenys had, as well.

[@angelocucuzza7958]

I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN AROUND AT THOSE GLORY DAYS OF STEAM

[@natejenkins8645]

I have this DVD and it's great! I really loved how they included the 2-6-6-6s since their isn't much footage of them in service.

[@mikestrainz5208]

Great video..I'd love to see more! I from Hinton WV..I love C&O steam

[@hoganrichard9627]

Nothing like the chug-chug lullaby of these fantastic machines!

[@charlieharper886]

Handley, West Virginia. I lived about 10 minutes away from there as a kid, back when it still looked a lot like this video. It's kind of sad to go by there now. The two main tracks, one siding and the shell of the coaling tower is about the only thing seen in this video that's still there.

[@Airwatt]

I lived 2 miles from Handley (Pratt) & yes it looks very sad.

[@barefoofDr]

I love the smell of coal smoke in the morning.

[@steamgent4592]

Gotta love all the C&O monster locos and all those flying pumps!

[@VictorianMaid99]

outstanding machine!

[@rudineilopesdesouza1899]

Here in south of brazil exist this machine the many years ago in Imbituba sc betwen 1979 and 1992 the carboquimic industry catarinense produced sulfuric acid and fosforic acid never the world make one report about very interesting maybe you search in google sadly for for governament problem she failed.

[@onionhat9141]

If I could go back in time I would go to the 40's-50's and watch the steam locos going in and out of the yard.

[@eugeeropel5572]

These Articulateds were priceless and Sunday River Productions did an outstanding job of capturing these giant’s. I would love to see at least one of them put back into action but to see one transformed into oil, in my opinion, is kind of an injustice, for lack of a better word. But either way, Thank You Sunday River Productions, hope you’re still out there selling DVD’s. This one’s gets an A+++++.

[@hartmutlorentzen9659]

This great video shoud be digitally remastered! Thanks for presentation, from Germany

[@russellgxy2905]

Here's what I've learned. If you want a drag freight engine, use an articulated with small drivers and a firebox over the rear set of for higher tractive effort, a la the N&W Y6's. Higher horsepower, meaning a larger firebox and other Superpower components, a la the H-8 2-6-6-6's, should be used on flatter territory, where they're additional wheels make for better traction compared to a Berkshire. Given that an N&W A class had more traction, it's safe to say the C&O made the same mistake the Seaboard Air Line did with its 2-6-6-4's in underestimating their power and misunderstanding their purpose.

[@2011traincrazy]

There should be more DVDs of chases between the N&W Js and As.

[@Greatdome99]

From what I heard, the N&W added a 14-ton cement weight over the front drivers of its Y6bs for better traction.

[@trainknut]

@@Greatdome99 Steam locomotives: the only vehicle where making them heavier increases performance

[@ThePaulv12]

@@trainknut No, some Diesels and of course some high powered electrics locomotives benefited thus. Perhaps little Joe's had the ceee-ment treatment lol.

[@russellgxy2905]

@@ThePaulv12 Even today, Class I's buy ballasted versions of SD70ACe's and GEVO's for better traction

[@jalbhagwagar3353]

Handsomest beasts ever produced. Wish I lived in their times. If i had one in 1:87 scale, I'd pick it up and bite it. Thank you for uploading this.

[@transportationproductions1794]

I think CSXT should have a steam program, and C&0 Allegheny 1604 should be selected for restoration to operating condition along with Greenbrier 614! If 1604's restoration is complete, it would be the most powerful operating steam locomotive in the world, surpassing Big Boy 4014!

[@blackwatchaudio5630]

Is that actual sound footage of the Allegheny or an overdub of some other articulated? There's reputed to be only one wire recording ever made of the 2-6-6-6. Even without sound this is great footage of Handley WV terminal, circa 1956.

[@theextremeanimator4721]

1309 will make us proud!

[@thunderbird1921]

She may not be an Allegheny, but she's one of the closest things to it! Great to see her starting to run again. Second largest operating steam locomotive in the United States other than Big Boy now, IIRC.

[@theextremeanimator4721]

@@thunderbird1921 Is he more powerful than big boy?

[@thunderbird1921]

@@theextremeanimator4721 Big Boy's more powerful, but the H6 class (1309 and her siblings) aren't too far behind. They're around the range of the N&W Class As if I recall correctly.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

1309 was built in 1949 based on 1910 blueprints...hardly superpower, but it will do nicely since it's located within driving distance of my residence (Columbus, Ohio)...I'll also have an excuse to make return trips to Cass, Durbin, and Elkins on the way over...:>)...

[@MB_Videos1]

Please post more of this fine example in steam design !

[@alvamorrison6289]

Wish we could find more of this footage!

[@steamgent4592]

You could buy the DVD and see more!

[@09JDCTrainMan]

Given their huge firebox and boiler, it wouldn't surprise me that their steam generation is top tier.

[@stevenspaziani9159]

My father was a fireman for the NYC and an engineer and I remember him saying one day that steam locomotives can not harness their steam for it's full potential and this video pretty much says that, to bad to because I would love to operate a steam engine. Anyone can operate a diesel but it takes a real engineer to run a steam locomotive.

[@thomasavensjr.2790]

The C&O "Allegheny" type is an incredible articulated locomotive and it must have been very enjoyable to see them at work hauling loaded coal trains in Virginia & West Virginia, during the 1940's and '50s during the late stage steam era.

[@axolotlrailfanner3650]

That is the C&O Allegheny, and actually one is on display in the Henry Ford museum.

[@jeffd1962]

Honestly. Steam is a lot of work . But wow look at all that power! We need them back!

[@sangheiliwarrior86]

That exhaust beat sounds like a giant robot mechanically designed to punch in a 1-2 rhythm pounding a mountainside.

[@Train115]

Theres footage of H7-Class locomotives in this too, another locomotive I wish we had at least one of left.

[@JeffMcVicker]

Love to see an H-7 in action.

[@jacksalvin364]

60 C&O Alleghenies were build by Lima. 58 were scrapped. Only 2 were saved engines 1601 and 1604.

[@thunderbird1921]

At least the 2-6-6-2 Mallets 1308 and 1309 were preserved as well. They're kind of like the Allegheny's "little" sisters.

[@jacksalvin364]

Yeah.

[@robertmohler9131]

How many meets are there between two articulated's in this DVD?

[@pearsooo6972]

Nice

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

Wow its interesting that this video was made so long ago that the 2-6-6-6 was compared to 6 EMD FT-unit locomotives :D

[@trainknut]

I don't think this video is actually that old... Keep in mind by the time the 2-6-6-6 was made they had _already_ replaced the FTs with the F3 and later F7, by the ends of their careers GP9s and early SD's were already being produced. I'm pretty sure he was just using it as a contemporary example, as the FT would've been one of the locomotives that Alleghenies were competing against.

[@andypettit5869]

They need to restore one back, even convert to oil burner for the green peace nuts...

[@andypettit5869]

@Dewitt Leslie lol.

[@starguard4122]

Thank you for posting this video. It was very entertaining

[@Bob.W.]

I have this in videotape. Lol. Who is the narrator? He is on a lot of train vids.

[@StarlightSnowball]

I wonder if 2662 and 4884 are cousins are even siblings or somethin

[@1940limited]

60 EM1 locomotives! That must have been one hell of an order and kept Lima busy for a long time. I bet they were glad to see that deal go down. It's too bad they had such a short life span. It seems like such a waste.

[@stevew270]

The 2-6-6-6 isn't an EM-1, EM-1's were 2-8-8-4 B&O Yellowstones.

[@darrellfxdwg]

Great footage, incorrect narration. The EM-1s crossed the mountains at Sandpatch ot Terra Alta on the B&O. Allegheny Summit is on the old C&O main line and is where the 1600's operated. Also, what does a C&O Hudson in Williamsburg have to do with articulated locomotives in Appalachia like on the vhs?

[@JamesBrown-ux9ds]

Manufacturing is way overestimated. We all do much better without.

[@buixrule]

Huh?

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

would number 1604 steamed again.

[@09JDCTrainMan]

Highly unlikely

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@09JDCTrainMan and number 2716 number 614 and number 490 will get steamed too.

[@09JDCTrainMan]

@@maxwellwalcher6420 2716, yes, but sadly, 614 and 490 will remain on display for a while

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@09JDCTrainMan 2716 IS GETTING steamed again they're building the engine.

[@09JDCTrainMan]

@@maxwellwalcher6420 I know, I mentioned it in my earlier reply. Can't wait to see when she's fully restored.

[@stevebell4906]

Reciprocating Steam was a maintenance nightmare and that is why market forces drove them out...

[@AlexTrain5249]

1309 is now alive and kicking.

[@pippastone6018]

LOVE IT

[@K-Effect]

POWER!!!

[@moosiem60]

the Alleghenies were built in 41 the EM1 were built in (44)

[@nathanpetrohilos]

Beautiful sight to see in person #1604

[@AdmiralColdhead]

It's absolutely horrible that C&O scrapped their 2-6-6-6s and many of their other articulated locomotives. They were a major part in railroad succession, and only about a good few of them from two railroads decided that they were worth saving. I'm just relieved that 1309 is our C&O articulated locomotive Edit: I wasn't paying attention and realized that 1604 is still around and in preservation.

[@theextremeanimator4721]

There's still some alleghenies!

[@AdmiralColdhead]

@@theextremeanimator4721 if you read the comment, you would see that I edited this saying that I didn’t know C&O 1604 was preserved.

[@willthetrill4849]

#1601 is also preserved. Only 2 Allegheny's are left

[@john72ss]

who votes this down????

[@ChowderTDMOFCAL]

2:23 what locomotive is this?

[@KeijiSuwa]

It's a Class K-4 "Kanawha" 2-8-4.

[@x-mkt-x168]

0:50 what locomotive its that ?

[@scottschwartz5106]

It is a 2-6-6-2 of the H-6 class, but of the earlier run, built in 1923, as opposed to the H-6 class built in 1948, of which 1308 and 1309 still survive.

[@davidchapman1519]

I'd give my right leg to see a 2666 back in service and out pull that stupid bigboy!!!!!

[@stevebell4906]

All it takes is money!

[@09JDCTrainMan]

Hate to break it to ya, but the Big Boy has more tractive effort than the Allegheny (135,375 lbf > 110,211 lbf), so the Alleheny has no chance of out-pulling a Big Boy, operational or not. Yeah it has more HP (7,498 > 6,290), but it's tractive effort that gets trains started and pulls up grades

[@nathanmcnichols7451]

@@09JDCTrainMan that’s right my man! Just what I want to hear!

[@lembriggs1075]

Nice to se 2731 there near the end of this video 2-8-4 Kennawa.

[@costapopolis]

Actually 1604 isn’t the only one preserved. C&O 2-6-6-6 locomotive #1601 is preserved inside the Henry Ford Museum. live.staticflickr.com/5727/31299569192_d3d7b488d7_b.jpg