Artists WILL FAIL Trying To Be Original

[@unklericky]

“Different doesn’t sell, Authentic sells.” 💯💯💯 Dropping Gems

[@unklericky]

Appreciate the content you guys consistently put out. Blessings from Sydney Australia.

[@lordjoyous]

You can be authentically different durr

[@litobrigante1413]

That's bs, drill or majority of hip hop today isn't authentic IT'S DEMONIC

[@zaicustis]

Change my whole perspective

[@sonofforever1]

💯

[@WatchAke]

If you plan on being original, go the independent route!! Be the trend setter…being original makes you, you! No one can duplicate that 💪🏽

[@Keyeze660]

It’s hard tho. It’s gon take a lot more years to become successful. You gon spend a lot of years starving before seeing any kind of break through, and that’s something most people aren’t strong/patient enough to do

[@WatchAke]

@@Keyeze660 facts brotha. A lot of people aren’t patient…but the ones that are will live by their own standard once their talents are brought to the forefront.

[@Keyeze660]

@@WatchAke When I think of thuggin the music game out to your favor, I think of Nip, Larry June, Master P. They stayed down for many years but they reaped the benefits and had full control over their own destinies

[@WatchAke]

@@Keyeze660 those are the perfect examples of how an independent career should look . The grind only last but so long. They’re big inspirations to me and my journey.

[@angelaburress8586]

You’ll be an struggling artist if you go independent no one has ever been independent and went mainstream and people don’t just come out of nowhere and become famous they be in artist development but to continue to sell us a dream they claim to be independent 👀🧐🧐🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️💁🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️!!!!!

[@Pont3ll]

The difference is comedians create with the sole intent of making people laugh. True artists in any medium ie music, paint, dance are following a passion that burns inside of them regardless of how they are received by their audience. Once you start creating with money in mind you have lost your artistic way. That’s why we are in the space we are in now with music because there are too many opportunists in the space and not actual creatives.

[@EricStackzMyRapMentor]

I don’t think that statement it true anymore. You just have to understand that the likelihood of you going mainstream is low. But to be a successful artist you can do it you just need a unique branding approach to sell the music and find your niche

[@kingjoe4893]

Facts

[@LawPoppy]

nah you just gotta do what everbody does nobody cares about originality anymore

[@kingjoe4893]

@@LawPoppy not everybody

[@EricStackzMyRapMentor]

@@LawPoppy your only talking about from a mainstream level. That’s an old ideology there’s tons of successfully artists that’s popular in their own lane that not mainstream and their independent. Currensy, tech 9, Tom McDonald, Insaine clown posse, Dax, any many more I can name. these are old and new artists. You may or may not know them but there all rich. the problem with the hip hop Community is we only focus on the small minority of artists at the top. I get it if your a fan but if your an artist yourself we have to study even the artists that may not be a music taste but is successful even at an Indy level

[@sholonator92]

I'll say that's a great advice for breaking through and building your fan base, but once you're stablished with 1 or 2 popular albums, I really apreciate artists taking risks and try pushing the limits of what popular music can be. Some concepts may push the bar some won't, but at least they tryed. Then return to the hit songs when it's time and do that shit in cycles. Thats how you build a legacy because lets be honest, nobody thinks of 50 like a legacy artist with all due respect. Some artist do that masterfully. A good example in my opinion was Mac Miller.

[@iambruceleroi]

THAT 50 TAKE WAS 1 OF THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN IML 😂 BRO GOT THE GR8TEST MIXTAPE IN HIP HIOP HISTORY WITH "GUESS WHO'S BACK". GET RICH OR DIE TRYING IS THE GR8TEST DEBUT HIP HOP ALBUM EVER & THE MASSACRE IS A CLASSIC TOO.

[@seekthetruth3691]

@@iambruceleroi in my opinion 50 Cent is a “you had to be there” artist. I think the longevity of the music plays a huge part in being a “legacy artist.”

[@iambruceleroi]

@@seekthetruth3691 U KNOW HOW MANY PPL ARE MAKING REMIXES TO MANY MEN? U KNOW HOW MANY TIMES PPL ARE PLAYING CANDY SHOP & IN DA CLUB? C'MON BRO U TRIPPING 😂

[@seekthetruth3691]

@@iambruceleroi I feel you. They are still classics. The nostalgia is always gon be there. But if we throw a party what old 50 songs are you playing? Cause playing “In Da Club” at a function in 2023 is just as crazy as playing “Dust your Shoulders Off” by Jay Z. But if I play “Juicy” by BIG it’s going up even at a college party.

[@d2dar459]

True. 💯 I think the main thing is to only be experimental when u can afford to, if u wanna actually have a good chance of selling early on.

[@paranomsun]

Rappers are rich while their music is so unoriginal/copycat it waters down the culture. That’s the correct formula right there!!

[@Ciceromode]

50 cent had a point. Thank God Danny Brown went the different route though and gave us some truly groundbreaking work 💯

[@BrandmanNetwork]

He wasn't completely different MUSICALLY when he broke through. That's the point. Also, this is also hindsight. He was under 50 so you don't know what they were referring to. It could have been something that was never released or came to light. Danny clearly agrees for a reason.

[@tbj4855]

His music didn’t age well at all but Danny was good for his time

[@princeamu]

@@BrandmanNetwork his music didn’t sound like everybody else tho. No?!?

[@CBlixk6300]

Bro imma say 50 if he say that now yeah but that Era Danny Brown came up in u had to experiment to be big Asap Mob Pro Era Odd Future Vince Staples Raider Klan Chance the rapper Travis Scott early career etc

[@simbalesliechoto8663]

@@tbj4855 i disagree. What album sounds like "Atrocity Exhibition"? Danny Browns sound is similar to Run The Jewels, JPEGMAFIA, Death Grips, Earl Sweatshirt, KA etc. He's first two albums where different.

[@DomTMOtv]

Don’t sleep on beats from KZbin .. if artist purchase the track out stems from producer & it’s up to the artist to make the song .. Lloyd banks had Bobby shmurda beat for “ hot nigga” .. Bobby made a better song .. just don’t sleep on em

[@thescoobymike]

If Danny tried making hit songs no one would know him tho. It worked incredibly well for Danny Brown imo.

[@born5094]

Just an observation, I can hear the noise floor in your video, you might want to consider slapping a noise gate onto your master track / individual tracks to get rid of that, in order to have best audio quality possible. Just looking out, Great video!

[@guycohen14]

Right?! Or get a new cable

[@prod.illysochilly]

It's that Vinyl effect lol

[@vinosamari]

Or an expander to reduce the floor and accentuate the vocals. 😁

[@veshaw.]

Yoooooooooo you straight up diss bro daaannngg??????!

[@born5094]

@@veshaw. hahaha, got the loud pack on me always. You don't want the smoke

[@GMackey]

Sounds like everybody is on each other’s nuts these days, I can’t tell one artist from the other, they all sound the same especially if they’re an auto tune artist. Someone needs to do their research, because every great artist from the past has had their own style but these new artists over the last 10 years has no individuality my ears need a change because if we’re going to keep going the way we’re going, we might as well only have one artist if we all sound the same. Did anyone sound like Stevie wonder Michael Jackson 2Pac James Brown Eminem I can go on with this list give me individuality.

[@DIFA300]

I'm glad someone sees it my way. This personally was a very depressing video to watch.

[@destinixshakur]

I’m the most original .

[@GMackey]

@@DIFA300 Yes depressing and demoralizing to say the least. These guys must’ve not have ever listen to great music before, if they did they would have known that every great artist has individuality no great artists sounds alike and that’s what makes music exciting, having choices. We need more musicians and music lovers to stand up to this genocide talk. If we as black artist don’t get control of our music soon our music will eventually die. We could not live with this one style of music.

[@GMackey]

@@destinixshakur Stay that way and you will eventually shine.

[@destinixshakur]

@@GMackey it’s me . I’m the one

[@trendingtopictalk]

Be yourself and tell your story is the key to being a successful musician

[@rivers9368]

Original does not mean you have to create new sounds. It’s all about what fits good with the ear. Something that stands out from your whole catalog.

[@chadalancarson]

Such a powerful message for artists that really trynna be in the music BUSINESS

[@angelaburress8586]

But most of all remember it’s a BUSINESS 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽PERIODT

[@rayvontebrightman4190]

I don't think 50 meant you can't be different or more importantly yourself. You have to figure out what the world wants to hear from you, meaning what difference can you make in music while also giving the people what they want from you

[@lastlvl]

You guys are speaking truth but using Danny brown as the example was a bad example. If he would’ve stayed with gunit, he would’ve never dropped “XXX” or flourished into what he was trying to do. Or been who he is today. Yayo and 50 was already judging him on skinny jeans alone. He blew up after leaving the unit.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

He was under 50 so you don't know what they were referring to. It could have been something that was never released or came to light. Danny clearly agrees for a reason so you don't know what adjustments he made. XXX was not completely "different" so I don't know if that's a direct result of that convo or not. Danny himself is more different than the production was - which still made it digestible in the climate at the time.

[@DIFA300]

Facts

[@dgayle2348]

@@BrandmanNetwork : i disagree with the og commenter because I mean, it's just truth: if you try something different you're incurring an inherent risk. Danny was just one of the lucky ones to bet on himself and win. He wasn't the first to do weird, unconventional shouty rap but he's one of the few who won. The rest perished. But I disagree with you that it was just him or his voice that was different. There was practically nothing on XXX that fit the mold of that time. Not only that but he released it at 30 years old. He really just said "fck it what do I have to lose?" and he gained a cult following.

[@flackodabaptist]

@@BrandmanNetwork "XXX" is a fucking classic, better than any 50 album lol

[@notfanfavoritee]

We’re in the business of selling, quality content and quality music. Most artist and consumers don’t even realize why they actually like or dislike a song, it’s probably the mix, or the content… but dumbing down is not the way to go, PUT OUT WHAT YOU WANT AND LEARN THE BUSINESS, marketing,engineering, monetizing…and take your time. Get niche, look at YEAT entertainment business student.. -Fan favorite

[@coldhardtruth333]

Thank you .. these guys aren’t gurus . No different than other black dudes with KZbin channels

[@romedog992]

there’s a difference between trying to be original and being original.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Yep

[@rafeeqwarfield9690]

Great conversation 🔥

[@JeeDaRula]

Once you discover the formula…. Trust it…. Remember when Future tried to break the mold and made that album full of love songs…. Keyshia Cole took a hit being happy, Mary J Blidge expressed how people only want to hear her crying on her albums….Hell, even Bob Dylan said when he got more experimental with his music he lost a large mass of his fan base. You can be different and still fit inside the industry. Drake, Fabulous, French Montana, Kodak Black, Carrie B, and Yo Gotti are totally different artist, but the production consistently fits the current sound of the industry.

[@moodydidit]

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[@StikFiga]

This is why music sounds the way it does now. There’s no desire for discovery and artist are being told that there’s no incentive for making anything unique. Then when it falls off it’s no one’s fault. Culture > Capitalism

[@mizuko6132]

Most experimental artists usually don’t have expectations of being mainstream artists. But with the internet people are open to weirder music.

[@ArKaneAcrumProductions]

yup

[@uniquebeatsboutique]

The talking points here can apply to lots of choices in life, team sports, new jobs etc if you gotta start practice get better stick with it and again get better understanding of what it is. You can't be the best hockey/ basketball player and not understand the meaning of the paint lines on the floor if you're not a prodigy.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

This guy gets it! ^^^^.... It really isn't that complicated although many try to find fault in it. It's a basic principle that shows up everywhere in life (as you said)

[@Eddie_Sto]

That 'meet me where I'm at. I ain't going over there!' analogy was nice.

[@pUkkademps]

At first listening I was heavily disagreeing believing that artists should be original but when one you said along the lines of “ the label isn’t putting marketing dollars behind it because it doesn’t represent the brand they bought me for” . I then said damn yup he’s right on that and I bet that’s so frustrating for artists wanting to bloom.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Yeah it definitely creates a dilemma for artists. It’s not uncommon for an artist to evolve before a label is “finished” exploiting an old version of the artist. Or imagine getting signed so early in your development that you have labels (and fans) wanting more of a part of you that was simply you exploring trying to find yourself.

[@pUkkademps]

@@BrandmanNetwork but as far as an independent artist do you feel the same about your take on originality ? Good point y’all also made on being different and authenticity. I feel like the whole being different doesn’t come off authentic for me with a lot of musicians . Feels super forced to stand out.

[@Rosko_de_Soul]

Yes, you have to believe until your skill matches what you have in your head… so you’ll be crazy for a while until your skill gets to a level to bring your vision to reality

[@baigmusic]

Fix the audio, cant hear Sean at all...

[@IncredibleC85]

4:28 that's my approach at this point I'm my musical journey. Give my listeners what they want. As long as I've done my research.

[@JohnnyDukane]

Great video. Insightful. It is a tough to realize you're not that different.

[@Pasuhdina]

I’m here for this one. Keep dropping bangers yall

[@cudi313]

SEAN PLEASE USE A NOISE GATE ON YOUR AUDIO OUTPUT TO REDUCE AUDIO GRAIN.

[@TerianMack]

I love this conversation because I really am different. Being an artist has been paying my bills for the last year, paid performances in schools and community events, so you can def be different and successful. But different and mainstream is rare.

[@AuraMoreno]

i’d love to talk to you about your growth! i’m currently getting into university performances im open to any advice i can get!

[@TerianMack]

@@AuraMoreno let’s connect on IG for sure!

[@noahpoetik]

Well done fellas. Thank you 🙏🏾

[@d2dar459]

Gotta remember, any art u plan to sell regularly makes it also a business.

[@Anar-hk5rv]

Theres a plugin called brusfri u can use to get rid of the noise from the mic

[@BrandmanNetwork]

I’ll look it up. Thanks

[@notfanfavoritee]

Tbh I gotta respectfully disagree, a lot of artist are MID nowadays, they just know the business… it has nothing to do with music anymore and artist don’t know the business at all so they have no choice but to be practical

[@notfanfavoritee]

To be seen

[@BrandmanNetwork]

What do you specifically disagree with that one of us said?

[@BassGodPantheon]

This idea mostly pertains to those who aren’t destined for Greatness. Everything we have came from a originator.

[@CforClairvoyant]

I had to accept this, a lot of the points made. You first start out, you're doing it and you think you're amazing and different but you're not. Different doesn't sell. it's still all about great production, high quality sound, mixed with your own personality. There's a ton of "youtube kidz bop" rappers that will never make it outside that bubble they are in. I'll forever respect and love the underground scene but it's not socially accepted for a reason cause marketing, branding, etc..

[@TherealSEPT6IX]

Man at the end of the day get your own studio get you some templates and create ! Being influenced by different artist is normal . Just make the sound n master it

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

Write what people want to hear, it is as simple as that.

[@mellahnix777]

I don't and will not put out yellow bone Ferrari rap

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

@@mellahnix777 I don't know what that is 😂

[@OSmith301]

“Whatever they say he did, he did that sh-t” 😂😂 50 is a menace

[@BigBankReeds]

All facts spoken here

[@sharkcityM3ko757]

💯💯💯💯

[@sdfadsdfs]

what do you recommend an upcoming artist do as far as generating their own sound? cause it’s true using youtube beats can be subject to saturation since other people using it but if you make it sound good it’s unique?

[@freshestinclass763]

The artists have the same flow.. the content is regional.. but they all have the same flow.. which get categorized...i.e... I'm not a kendrick Stan at all... but he could rap over a Lil baby song and the flow is done totally different... different never sold.. different is legendary... that's a thin line tho... Moby dick author sold 12 copies in his lifetime... but is considered an intergenerational classic in modern times. Like I said... different/ legendary a thin line... everybody was Jeezy fans while I loved gucci in that present time... time told that story... hate it or love it... disrupting?? U have to master the times/fundamentals first to be different.

[@kiko6217]

I feel like when 50 gave Danny that advice he was correct but in 2023 with the internet you can have a fanbase and make money without ever seeing the mainstream. Back when Radio was king definitely being different wasn’t gonna get you anywhere. But now it’s completely possible. Especially since nowadays in music once a sound gets popular it’s oversaturated within months, so being different is an advantage.

[@Don1neofficial]

It’s true u can’t bend consumer perception. Somebody told me something that hits hard . They told me when you be different it’s ok but you actually are better than a lot of ppl at what they do . Build off that 1st

[@sap9378]

"Be good at being you"

[@TalentedTENNth]

I’d love to hear you all’s assessment of Big KRIT’s career

[@princeamu]

50 was very original, he was singing in an age where rappers were not singing. Lol. What?!? Ny rappers sing in the 2000’s?!? That statement is a little contradictory. Also there’s context no?!?

[@BrandmanNetwork]

JaRule was singing and Nelly was melodic rapping/ singing. But if you think we said never be original, that’s not what we say at all. Watch it back. We say when to be original

[@danielsappore3423]

Won’t lie. I think this is terrible advice but only if the music is actually bad. You can be on a left field style of music as long as it’s good from the beginning and gain traction. It might be difficult but as long as the music is actually good you’ll find you have a stronger fan base, ie a fanbase that will accept you taking artistic risks - it took a very long time to change the popular opinion of 808s, in the streaming era especially if you’re indie, that might not be the move

[@simbalesliechoto8663]

Danny Browns 2016's "Atrocity Exhibition" is the most unique rap album i have ever heard. That album critically acclaimed but ignored in mainstream.

[@Rosko_de_Soul]

I couldn’t get the sound right, so I called it experimental 😂😂

[@jaybang5320]

So why did it work for the weeknd when was coming up?

[@freestyletherapy]

9:39 "But Black Dynamite, I get beats off of youtube."

[@princeamu]

Gotta say y’all are really good. You know what you’re talking about and understand artists. That’s rare

[@skymccloud]

U can be original and make money without a hit. But you will only get so far

[@stacyaugust7524]

just rap and adapt.. if you grasp Hip Hop and the culture of rap and lyricism.. which isnt easy but its the recipe.. then you should be able to make funds

[@guycohen14]

Bro y'all line noise is wild!

[@BrandmanNetwork]

This clip is from EP #3. It’s not like that from episode 5 on

[@guycohen14]

@@BrandmanNetwork Ayyyyy

[@quedaking1252]

Different does sell. I’m confused. People who sound the same sell less. Un-commercially viable music don’t sell. Most minor chords compared to major chords don’t sell or go viral. Music with a ritual or designed for club play may sell more.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Perceived difference and actual difference are not the same. Disruption and pioneering are not the same.

[@quedaking1252]

@@BrandmanNetwork I’m more confused. When you dig deeper we’re only talking about song keys, bpm, music style, positioning and messaging.

[@quedaking1252]

@@BrandmanNetwork you can change a viable if you choose to. The problem becomes when you change all And not a few or just one.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

You made the point of the video with your last comment. That's the exact foundation of what I said. Maybe you didn't understand upon hearing the first time around.

[@icheeseho]

All you have to do with is find a inspiration take what you like but make it your own style a lil different

[@fazormcghee7936]

The only reason we got people as talented as Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Eminem, Andre 3k, etc is because of honesty. If people back then were afraid to tell these emcees that they suck, when they did, they never would have gotten that good at it. The reason we will never see talented artists like this again is because 1) no one takes rap as seriously today as they did back then. Every single rapper out rn is just in it for a bag. None of them really care about the art form of rap anymore. 2) labels restricting the freedom of artists. 3) lack of honesty. These rappers suck because anybody who tells them they suck are lying and the only people telling the truth are the people that like it. Without criticism u don't know what needs improvements and if u don't improve, you deteriorate. Rappers today fear criticism which means they don't know what needs improvements. And because they don't know what needs improvements, they deteriorate. It's sad because I was listening to biggie this morning and I thought to myself.... This shit is like 3 decades old and I'm still listening to it and enjoying it... yet there's people that dropped music a couple months ago that I just don't care to listen to again, if I even listened to the full project to begin with. That shit says a lot. Until honesty is welcomed back into society, rap is done. It cannot last much longer if it continues this way.

[@marklopez9238]

So what is the result? Will they fail or nah?

[@TherealSEPT6IX]

It is wat it is !!! No lies told

[@Rosko_de_Soul]

Definitely earned a sub

[@beauxemerson855]

Very informative!

[@CareerDropout.]

Yeah you right. My music is trash but I like it

[@andrefloyd5019]

I highly disagree with 50 most of all these artists/ rappers today are copycats

[@sowaveysuyat]

bro this dude mic is too loud compared to yours.. the levels are off.. can't even watch this in peace yo

[@johndav_iD]

I love Danny Brown! He's SUPER underrated as an artist and innovator in hip hop. Do ya Googles

[@princeamu]

But Danny brown didn’t make music that’s commercial.

[@joshuaBrooks.nicholas]

I tried being original,but sometimes not everyone going to gravitate to the music I had to drop some gangsta like bars to get peoples attention on my channel cause I have street thugs Subscribed to my channel.

[@inamiiLIVE]

fire topics, the audio quality too staticy

[@josephschmizzo1595]

Nahh be different…

[@jaredt9231]

i agree to disagree honestly, its hits and misses in this convo

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Say what you disagree with. Everything in this convo is proven almost everywhere you look so I want to see if you're missing the nuances and not just paying attention to the seemingly "hot takes" that stand out.

[@95rocket]

Rick Rubin gave the opposite advice tho

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Rick actually gave the same advice. You have to listen to what we're saying - not just what 50 said.

[@persona7-7-7]

What even is the standard for mainstream rap now? Cuz it’s not 50

[@wildhorsemusic1111]

I'm so off in the distance.......

[@godsuniqorn1043]

WHAT WORKS FOR SOME PPL...WONT WORK FOR EVERYONE! 50 CENT COULD BE RIGHT AND WRONG AT THE SAME TIME..BUT HONESTLY A LOT OF THESE RAPPERS ARENT LASTING OR GETTING ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE, TALK ABOUT THE SAME SHIT AND FOLLOWING OTHER PPL! LEADERS LEAD...

[@moodydidit]

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[@evollody9910]

I feel like I go for the disruption in making music

[@RVMBO5K]

9:00 my latest single is referenced to “Massive - Drake” during mixing

[@andrefloyd5019]

Y'all go listen to upcoming artist superstar afloaty KaPowWow 🔥🔥🔥🔥 his music is fire & his music is different‼️‼️

[@SpooksMcGhie]

Why they keep doing danny brown like that with them old ass pics 😆

[@svngrhms2611]

Balance yall mic levels guys lol

[@_eiht_]

u helping black people be less progressive, thank you.

[@zay_thegentleman288]

Lmk if I can sampLe, becuz I'm GONNA sampLe 💀 💯.💎💎

[@LexaTerrestrialx]

I'm sorrry but HOWWWW can you sit up here & use a picture of Danny Brown?! & why i know that? because he's original!!!!!! otherwise just another face to me.

[@kahyui2486]

12:14 u should check out UK rapper Jordan mccaan. His rapping is so bad but he raps about his life and it's authentic and powerful. But he really bad at rapping but I've been moved by his music lol. Vibe > Skill

[@BryanBarcelo]

It's not unusual, to be, unusual. da da da da da da (Tom Jones voice).

[@BrandmanNetwork]

LMFAO

[@diamondnova7598]

Who’s the guy with the missing tooth in the thumbnail.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

Danny Brown

[@flackodabaptist]

danny brown was a bad example but i see wut ur saying

[@ayoogo]

just do what label tells you

[@tyronecriss23]

Danny Brown showed him otherwise. Has some of the most original music released.

[@KingDariusMusic]

These guys are just one the reasons music is going to hell

[@rbiznezz2]

Terrible sentiment.

[@BrandonOfJapan]

No one's original, everyone's a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy.

[@BrandmanNetwork]

No one can be a perfect copy so I’d say an iteration of an iteration of an iteration

[@555hotline]

fani for president

[@NBFRUBIO]

@nbfrubio