NEW! Ohuhu Pupe Paper Friendly Water-based Markers - Are They Good For Adult Colouring?

[@beckyneemann7273]

You just saved my some money. Glad I watched before ordering. 😂 I have the 160 set of the second version. There isn’t enough difference for me to justify buying the new ones.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@beckyneemann7273 Glad it helped!

[@ellengraves8146]

I love your review and comparison videos so much. You always do such a thorough job! Much appreciated 😊

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@ellengraves8146 Thanks Ellen! 🥰

[@allaboutjournals5845]

I don’t care how the market them I don’t know of any water based marker that won’t break down paper because we all know what happens when you mix paper and water. I also agree with you if they go through the paper you might as well use alcohol markers, and at least you can blend them.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@allaboutjournals5845 exactly!

[@JessicaSzempruch]

I have found that the Tombows don’t go through the paper in a Johanna Basford book. The Ohuhu ones did cause ghosting, so I think if someone really wants a good water based marker, get the Tombows or the even better (and pricier) Faber Castell Pitt pens. Otherwise, like you said, might as well use an alcohol marker. Anyway, I derailed a bit. Final verdict on Pupe: meh. 😅

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@JessicaSzempruch Yes, that was the conclusion of my video about using markers in double-sided colouring books kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaC6qqyBbrNqfbM

[@suewilkinson910]

I didn’t realise Tombow pens could be used in Johanna books. I shall give them a try.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

​@suewilkinson910 To be fair Sue, you can use most waterbased markers in JB books.

[@suewilkinson910]

@ But my Stadtler fine lines ghost badly. And various gel pens. So I’ve not tried water based markers.

[@waymire01]

And the Tombows have much better colors... there wasn't a single natural green in that entire case of Pupe.

[@Colorfully-Chaotic]

Yay! Had no idea they were releasing reformulated version. Can’t wait to watch. 🎉

[@anns5979]

I have been gone a while from coloring. Saw this and was excited but now at the end of the video, all I can say is waterbased markers is just not my cup of tea then or now. It was a wonderful video! So Poo for the Pupa markers. LOL

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@anns5979 Welcome back to colouring! My excitement also faded... 😅

[@ChantelleArts]

this new paper looks wild, watched and enjoyed till the end ☺☺

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@ChantelleArts Thanks Chantelle 🥰

[@joannahaas5892]

I can't imagine needing 20 layers. Surely the color is saturated long before that. Also, to be safe, I would let the color dry first before adding more layers. But that's just me. Anyway, these will not be on my wish list. Thanks so much for this review.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@joannahaas5892 The point about the number of layers was to show they are "paper friendly" and don’t tear (or eat!) into the paper as much. When using water-based pens they generally saturate and degrade the paper really quickly. If you let the layers dry, it can lead to streaky layers. I did revisit the dry layers in the colouring book as well as layering while wet.

[@Harkart59]

They call them Pupe but I say they're Crap That means the same as Pupe. The ones with the flamingo were the biggest waste of money I ever spent. I learned my lesson. I'm getting sick of the art companies treating us like we're all idiots. Thank you so much for taking the time and spending money to check out how well these don't really work. Much appreciation to you.😸💚

[@ArtJourneyUK]

They seem aptly named. The aim of my videos is to determine what's good and what's not, to save people spending money and being disappointed 🥰

[@leonnehaaijman4709]

Oooooh, getting a drink and getting comfy.

[@Kelly1-KAM]

The problem that a lot of people have with water-based markers is that they try and use them in the same way as you might use alcohol markers like you are doing. Water-based markers are a completely different type of pen. You need to use them on watercolour paper and blend them out with a brush and water. When you use them this way, they are lovely. If you want to use markers in the way you are, then you are better off with alcohol based markers.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@Kelly1-KAM No, they don't *have* to be used on watercolour paper. Felt pens made of waterbased ink have been around for years, for kids to use in colouring books and art. They *can* be used with a brush and water but that's not *the only* way they can or should be used, otherwise they wouldn't be in pen form with a lovely brush tip! 😉

[@ArtJourneyUK]

P.S. I've been using waterbased markers for 40+ years, so know how they work 😉

[@Kelly1-KAM]

@@ArtJourneyUK That is the beauty of art materials, they can be used in many different ways. I’m sorry if my comment offended you, my response suggesting that particular method not being the best way of using water-based markers because your video, and many others I’ve seen on KZbin, was outlining the difficulties of layering and blending the colours on regular paper, how they pull up the paper and bleed through. I get the impression from KZbin videos, that a lot of people don’t know how to get the best results out of water-based markers and try to use them like you would use alcohol markers, but hoping to avoid bleed through onto the other side of the paper. I guess that I have a very different perspective of using these to you perhaps as I come to them from the perspective of a painter, if I can use a brush and water, I will favour that. No offences meant, I enjoyed watching your video.

[@bethbrady8146]

well that is a shame!!! May as well stick to what I have got!! Thank you for that however!! It was exciting!!!

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@bethbrady8146 Isn't it! I was so excited at the start too!

[@melody_tune991simms]

Another great informative video. I really appreciate the effort and time you put in for us. I have the Ohuhu Journal pens and I feel they eat the paper terribly. Maybe I am to heavy handed with them. I have the 320 alcohol marker set in my wish list, I’m gonna stick with them haha

[@dianelloyd7464]

Thanks for doing this test but tbh I don’t think Id need to go over the layers at all. The colour is intense on the first sweep. My main issue with water based markers is that they leave streaks. X

[@leonnehaaijman4709]

You know the white plastic Caran d'Ache blending/mixing thingamajig, right? I use that to blend waterbased markers, on the smooth side. And then pick up the pigment with a brush, but it's a pain in the arse, obviously. Also, waterbased markers do blend very nicely when you use them straight onto watercolour paper, but that's no use if you only work in colouring books 🤣

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@leonnehaaijman4709 I never do that because if I wanted to paint, I'd use paints! Plus markers are made with a brush tip built in... for a reason 😆

[@suewilkinson910]

No matter the pen, the best way to use water based markers in colouring books is to prepare the paper with satin glazing liquid or some such medium.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@suewilkinson910 Satin glazing fluid makes the paper react so differently with the pens... and what a faff! I just want to colour! 🥰

[@susanmoncrief9433]

Could u please tell me how to treat the paper with the satin glazing liquid?

[@ArtJourneyUK]

Hi Susan, you just paint on a thin layer and let it dry. Satin Glazing Fluid is an acrylic medium (used to add a satin sheen to acrylic paints) so it makes the pages less absorbent.

[@susanmoncrief9433]

@ArtJourneyUK Thank You so much for taking your time out and getting back to me. So appreciated. May The Lord Bless You and Your Family with His Presence.

[@Colorfully-Chaotic]

Agree! I’d prefer alcohol markers over those if there’s not that much difference. Thank you for being so thorough. And I love your videos…🥰

[@ArtJourneyUK]

Thanks for watching! 🥰

[@jaimemastrogiovanni929]

I think you’re supposed to lay down the colorless blender marker down first and then layer the colors on top of that.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@jaimemastrogiovanni929 Interesting thought, but no, that's not what Ohuhu said.

[@Christine__D]

Maybe they're better for folks who can't tolerate alcohol markers?

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@Christine__D Yes, that's true. I sometimes struggle with the smell myself!

[@Kreative_Rainbow]

I'd love to have a house covered in flowers!! 🏵 They seem smoother than Crayola?

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@Kreative_Rainbow They are very smooth, they go down smoothly 😊

[@Kreative_Rainbow]

@@ArtJourneyUK Awesome!! 🤗😍

[@jengolo7]

VERY interesting. 🧐

[@alessiascolours]

Thank you so much for your in depth reviews! I have a set of the ohuhu water based markers (besides my loved honolulu) and they aren't bad, but my question to you is this; do any of these newer ones have colours that actually match the lids? I gave mine to my kids, in the end, cause having to look at my swatch chart every time I need a colour became far too tedious.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@alessiascolours Great question Alessia and in all honesty, they don't! It seems to be pretty standard that they don't match, they're more a rough guide to what colour to expect! Swatch Sheets are a must across the board 🥴

[@waymire01]

I haven't found a marker yet, waterbased or alcohol, that actually matches the lid. Including professional artist quality brands. Gotta swatch, and even that can be problematic since they can be different colors on different types of paper. One suggestion is to get some adhesive file labels, swatch on there, and wrap them around the pen. I did that for a while.

[@素萍-m5t]

Please tell me were to by the new pens?

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@素萍-m5t From Ohuhu's website. Link is in the description of the video

[@素萍-m5t]

​@@ArtJourneyUKThank you very much.

[@rebeccahicks3554]

Thanks for the video Lily. I have a fair amount of water based pens and will stick with them thanks. The one good thing I have noticed is they don't appear to be streaky. I have the pastel 96 set of alcohol and am debating saving for the big one or get the oros ones. Anyway I love watching your vids and will now get back to the colour and connect. take care.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@rebeccahicks3554 When you do small areas, it's easy to stop the streaks. Bigger areas are not so easy to keep streak free. 🥰

[@lauratully9707]

See coming through, but it’s not as bad as some markers would do

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@lauratully9707 Yes, with regard to bleedthrough, the first couple of layers are OK, but so are the others on 1-3 layers. They are much better at not tearing the paper though.

[@jacintasimpson1719]

Found this so interesting. Are water based markers even supposed to blend or just alcohol based markers, like Copic and other alcohol markers, when they don’t say they blend. No criticism meant.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@jacintasimpson1719 Some water-based markers can blend, especially on the right paper. Tombows are good at blending. These really didn't want to blend!

[@janetstorey416]

Do not eat the product reminded me of our black labrador, he got hold of one of my pens and ate most of it, I was picking up purple poos for a week after. I did ring our vet, I think I could hear him laughing from my house, he never forgot and always referred to the dog as p.p. (purple pooer). The dog was fine, no adverse reactions.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@janetstorey416 Hehehe! Purple poop seems suitable for these markers! 😅

[@DieterPrivate]

Only way to have "paper friendly" pens is doing pigment based ones like Pitt pens or Steadtler art pens. And then still, you always have to let the paper dry between layers. It's too much water that destroys the paper. Never try to blend such pens, better to use layering.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@DieterPrivate Yep.. let Ohuhu know! It is them that labelled them 'Paper Friendly'... not me! 😅

[@DieterPrivate]

@@ArtJourneyUK don't get me wrong, I like water based markers and I even use them successful on Amazon paper. I was also not aiming at you personally. Just stating what's chemically known about inks, however, it comes with a higher cost and I think Ohuhu isn't prepared for that.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

Indeed! 🥰

[@bethmegansmith4642]

not impressed ...bit sad they go though , what are tombo like ? lovely deep dive thank you xxxx

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@bethmegansmith4642 The Tombows are my favourite waterbased markers. I think they came out on top when I did the video about double-sided colouring books kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaC6qqyBbrNqfbM

[@bethmegansmith4642]

@@ArtJourneyUK thanks lilly just seen this I'lll watch it xxxx thank you xxxx 🥰

[@waymire01]

The only real positive difference I can see in any of them is that the first generation "chunky" paper friendly marker seemed very smooth with hardly any streaking. I wonder how they would do over a larger area? Streaking really is the major downfall for me for waterbased markers. The new Pupe (worst name ever.. why on earth would you name your product poopy, because you know that is what the majority of people will say) appeared to streak as much as the normal markers. Additionally.. and I see that you have a part 2 but haven't watched it yet so this may be addressed there... waterbased markers should be multipurpose. So you should be able to dilute them with water, either on the page or on a palette, tip to tip blend, etc. The paper friendly ones seem... thicker... I wonder if they would perform with water at all. That is the only purpose I can see for the blender, since it obviously doesn't blend, to use for tip to tip blending? I totally agree they bleed way too much, way more than the "normal" markers even, which defeats the purpose of having them. Oh.. and I don't think the journal markers were blending, they layer darker so that yellow was just turning orange/red with the extra layer like it did on the swatch layering test. That would be SUPER annoying in use for coloring, you expect the second layer to be a bit darker but that was extreme.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@waymire01 The first generation paper friendly pens did seem to dry less streaky. When I revisited the rabbit book in my haul video, I was surprised how smooth looking they dried. I see you have watched part 2 now so I don't need to answer the rest, but in short, whatever they've done to make them "paper friendly" has made them less "water friendly." I also think they are made with a permanent ink/dye mix rather than a water-soluble one because they perform the worst of all my water-based markers with regard to movability.

[@CatherineKat]

I never use markets because for some reason I really can't stand those splodges they leave on the other side.😁

[@chelseascreativecolouring]

💜💜💜💜

[@sueduggan4072]

Think I will pass no advantage thanks for testing 😅

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@sueduggan4072 Glad it was helpful! 🥰

[@JessyGroen]

You are right , what is the use of markers that go through the paper.. maybe just 1 layer then :/ . Again you had me laughing with the whole Pupe part (poop-e ) 😅 that and I swear with the second marker testing layers it sounded like you said there's people on the pen 😂 instead of paper but that's prolly me.Your videos are great to watch I never leave without a laugh 😊 .

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@JessyGroen I Google translated the word Pupe from Hawaiian to English and it translated to Fool. Hmm. 😅

[@junbug1029]

I’d rather have alcohol markers that will blend.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@junbug1029 ditto!

[@BevM7373]

Interesting video. It would have to be really something special for me to buy more pens and this isn’t it. x

[@crazy4colors534]

Thanks for sharing. I won't be purchasing them cause 90% of my books are Amazon paper

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@crazy4colors534 Glad this video was helpful 🥰

[@crossstitchbutton]

Meh! got rid of all my water based markers better of with alcohol ones my opinion for me anyways 🤯 xx

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@crossstitchbutton Yeah, my excitement soon turned to "meh" too! They go down nice, but even one layer goes through the paper! So I'm not sure what Paper Friendly means... unless it's the ability to layer in art where the back of the work doesn't matter?

[@annamarielewis7078]

I like them both, but the water based don’t bleed through.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

​@annamarielewis7078 ...but these did bleedthrough

[@spare_room_studio]

I dunno….left me thinking “meh” 🤷🏻

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@@spare_room_studio Same. I was really excited to try these, but I'm struggling to understand how they are paper-friendly...

[@spare_room_studio]

@@ArtJourneyUK the cynic in me thinks it’s a marketing gimmick…I guess the fact they don’t tear up the paper as badly as other waterbased markers make them “paper friendly”?! I think you hit the nail on the head….if you are in the market for new wb markers they are worth the try but I wouldn’t rush out expecting something really new and “different”. You do the best comparisons, good job here again ❤️

[@ArtJourneyUK]

​@spare_room_studio aww thanks my lovely. Just replied to another comment where I said perhaps they're good for artworks where the back of the paper doesn't matter (however I'd still favour alcohol markers!) 😊

[@LeeDee5]

I think it’s mostly marketing. Rebrand lines every couple of years to keep customers coming back to you. All of these are maybe only the most suitable on Johanna type of paper and only a single pass through and finish with a pencil layer.

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@LeeDee5 I did a video about using markers in double-sided colouring books and they worked in the majority of books apart from those with thinnest paper.

[@colorcrazy2944]

"Meh" interesting, nice try by Ohuhu I guess but not impressed, do not like the name....

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@colorcrazy2944 ahh yes, the name. Very odd! I Google Translated the word Pupe from Hawaiian to English.. it translated as "Fool". Yep.

[@purplelorain6180]

Yeah, that's a no from me😁 They seem ok if you're only colouring in small parts but like you said, they go through the paper (to the other side) before you've got a nice and smooth coverage especially on bigger elements so just use alcohol markers. Might be good for folks who really, really, really, really, really, really, do not like the smell of alcohol markers? Or for the LIly's of this world who just love testing out pens 😛😘

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@purplelorain6180 hehe me loves some pens! 😅 I can imagine they're good for Artists where the back of the paper doesn't matter, but when I saw them, I wanted to test them in colouring books! I know other colourists would wonder the same when they see the term "paper friendly". 🥰

[@kathyw948]

Meh

[@user-kd6qb2le1b]

Wet talker

[@ArtJourneyUK]

@user-kd6qb2le1b Welcome back Fu! You've been missed! Hopefully you've been off, enjoying life and having fun rather than wallowing in your pit of permanent negativity. Life is short, enjoy it!

[@kdizzler]

Rude!!! And untrue!!