What is Honor? | The Art of Manliness

[@xavier3961]

"I would prefer even to fail with honor than win by cheating." ~ Sophocles

[@ironmantis25]

A sentiment not shared by the majority of modern men.

[@piotr_jurkiewicz]

Nor Spohocles, nor chivalry has anything to do with modern honor. In ancient Greece it was about so called nowadays 'universal honor' which meant acquiring position within society with disregard to duels (medieval 'knightly honor') which would be seemed as barbaric. Chivalry ('knightly honor') was a way of saying 'I'm mightier than you, so I'm right' which was funny.

[@pauale10]

I loved this video and showed it to my 8 year old son who's been feeling down because of other boys in school.. his father is very busy and doesn't have time to teach him all this so I'm thinking this KZbin channel is going to be of help with my boy. Thank you :)

[@rosellaaalm-ahearn1760]

Honor isn't just for men and boys. Teach your daughters too if you should be so fortunate as to have one.

[@mr.forbes7300]

I respect you for that. ...he’ll be very greatfull for the lessons you teach and show him in years to come

[@chevycruze1406]

Wow no offense but, what kind of father dosent MAKE time?

[@jamessethmoore]

Man will be sorry he's too busy for his children some day. Not a judgement, a fact

[@rustinstardust2094]

chevy cruze The kind which is most common.

[@caffeineandphilosophy]

Jack Donovan's book "The Way of Men" is a great source of more information on "honor," as well as strength, courage, and mastery in a historical-masculinity context.

[@artofmanliness]

Indeed. I'll be mentioning it in the code of honor video.

[@rjs19862011]

Art of Manliness Just watching. BRAVO!!!!!!

[@someguy1365]

@Lee Kenyon No. It's a matter of humility and Honor. If you are all brought low, then you build each other back up. As equals. It's also why you're largely never allowed to pick your callsign in the Navy; It's meant to be a sign of humility. They do it because it creates a sense of unity in the unit; would you rather fight with your peers, or would you rather shoot the shit with them over how much of a hardass your CO is? The latter is better for unity.

[@joseabelardorodriguezmachu1965]

You mean Jack Donovan the pole smoker?

[@PeppyTheCrawdad]

When I think "honor code" I think "bushido" Which is: Righteousness Courage Benevolence Respect Sincerity Honor Loyalty Self-Control

[@theoristocratic1923]

Careful there... Referencing Bushido is something of a fine line between it's application by actual samurai and it's idealized romanticization by the two books most associated with it, written towards the end of the Edo period or in the 1900s.

[@OldManShane]

The code of Bushido really only applied to your peers and your greaters, not to your lessers. It was fine to abuse peasants, because they weren't Bushi (warrior) or Samurai. They were 'just' peasants; plundering their homes, raping their women, that sort of anarchistic action associated with most feudal warfare (East and West), weren't really considered violations. As Theoristocratic points out, there is a heavy amount of romanticization about the Way of the Warrior, the Honor of the Samurai. But like with any sort of romanticization, the reality of the situation is lost, and replaced with idealistic fantasies. Having said that, honestly and legitimately adopting something like Bushido, and applying it to everyone equally... that really would be a good sense of honor, in my opinion.

[@rise4justice826]

PeppyTheCrawdad tell that to the Japanese that raped and beheaded chinese in WW2 lol

[@christosgregoriou4734]

JarlAndKarl i am not a native speaker. Care to explain what fidelity means?

[@rohitk2033]

Same

[@matthewy2j]

Zuko should probably watch this.

[@slanghandle6179]

*distant yelling and angst in the background*

[@matthewy2j]

Luis Gimon Teenage angst intensifies!

[@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032]

I must find the avatar to restore my honor.

[@rivaraptor4277]

Takeo too

[@vincentbrown1347]

Hes one of tha most honorable there was! His heart wuz just misguided.

[@555Gear]

One thing about the classical view of honor, although it was viewed as a good, it was not considered the highest good, which was virtue. Virtue is a state of excellence of character whereas honor is external.

[@duosythe]

555 Gear can you expand on this? what is the origin of your claim? I am very interested!

[@555Gear]

James Kufeldt Sure, in Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics for example, he defines happiness as the ultimate good which all men desire, and he argues at length to prove that happiness is a virtuous life. Virtue is a state of character corresponding to acting in accord with what is truly good for an individual, both morally and intellectually.

[@loot7206]

James Kufeldt You would enjoy reading "The Way of Men" by Jack Donovan.

[@duosythe]

Manboy RG I read a little bit of it, but it is very materialistic. (In the philosophical form). It's primary focus it seems is physicality. Idk I feel like there's more to life than brute strength. I recommend reading The Way of the Superior Man

[@loot7206]

James Kufeldt I'll check that out, thanks

[@Mayankbhattacharya]

Holy good Lord! This was a very infotaining video! Great stuff *****

[@artofmanliness]

Glad it entertained and informed!

[@itsmylife8639]

When you talk about Honor the first thing that come to my mind is the movie Men of Honor. Though it doesn't teach you any thing directly as you explained, but it gives you an overall picture how to lead a honorable life. Keep up the good work man, been reading your posts from past several years...

[@TonyGingrich]

Wow! Having been raised in such a culture of honorable men, this short video enlightened me to many important aspects; either I was never taught, or I did not pay enough attention during my youth. Possibly both. We called it "fellowship". And I have long fantasized about recreating such a culture. I feel like my world needs that now more than ever, and this video has given me information I did not previously have. Thank you!

[@wjsnow2195]

I've felt a lifelong desire to pursue honor just as you described, from enlisting in the Corps right out of high school and eventually becoming a corporal to joining my lodge when I made it home and now being a company officer in my fire department and president of my IAFF local constantly working towards bettering the group and myself is a goal I feel is worthy to pursue. I'm glad other men feel the same and we aren't dying off as quickly as I thought.

[@ashkora]

I have goals very similar to you and im enlisting in a few days. Do you have any tips/advice on how you got there

[@JohnWicksPencil14]

Looking jacked brotha, the workouts are showing results

[@Elmasdrakosinfenixov]

what is honor? something most people lack.

[@vodkacannon]

If you suddenly lived by honor, half of the worlds population would commit suicide.

[@FantusyFailure]

Probably one of your best videos yet. In my opinion.

[@flyinggeese3740]

I learned more in this video than I did in 5 years of going to church.

[@minmaxflaminggaming4283]

If you don’t go to church because you really want to and to truly learn and ask questions then you have wasted 5 years of your life

[@eriknordgaard233]

Hey Brett, It feels great to see you use my graduation @1:02 as an example of honor. I love AoM and please keep doing what you are doing.

[@michaelellson57]

I really appreciate this post Brother. I was losing my flame to attend lodge but this video is helping me reignite it. Thank you.

[@artofmanliness]

Michael Ellson You're welcome!

[@VikingShorts]

Excellent job laying out Honor. Thank you.

[@6lu5ky86]

Very nice. I've found myself in situations where I've been praised for my hard work. Customers have given me compliments and called me an expert in my craft. I'm not sure if you'd consider that a sort of indirect form of vertical honor but I used to downplay those comments because I felt like I was just doing my job well, which is one of my core values from my 30 Days to A Better Man. Now having achieved praise from those people in my craft who have a good ten to fifteen years seniority over me is something that I relish. I hate the feeling of not being a good contribution to a team or project. It's truly satisfying.

[@ryanhampson673]

The book Hagakure is a collection of writings from many different Samurai throughout many years. In one story it tells of a Samurai getting off a boat after a journey and he is walking up the dock to the shore. A man walking to board the boat bumps into the samurai roughly. The samurai stops and turns to the man looking in the eyes expecting an apology. The other man scoffs at the samurai and turns back to board the boat. At that moment the samurai unsheathed his sword and took the other man’s head off, and just as quickly resheathed his sword and carried on with his walk. If the other man would have apologized for bumping into him that would have been that, but his arrogance offended the samurai and in turn was dealt with quickly.

[@d-pool7967]

I have grown up this way based on how people in my life had taught me which I’m really appreciative of

[@RedPillSailor]

Better than the lectures we've heard in boot camp. 🎯💯👍🏾

[@ninjak85]

This is something that has really hit me sweet. Maybe I will try to start an "honor group". We need to bring it back into society. Honor is truly a lost art of manliness. Thank you for the video.

[@ninjak85]

Titan I understand this hence the quotation, but thanks for clarifying it to anyone who does not get it.

[@hybridpsycho]

Yay, you weren't offended :) God I Love this channel. Good that you understood it. Truth is that I made the comment before watching the whole video. So I didn't understand you starting "an honor group" was what the vid mentioned later. Which made more sense. Which is why I deleted my original comment.

[@donrodrigovil09]

Honestly, this is some awesome knowledge, thanks. The art of manliness has helped me a whole lot during the las five years of growth as a person abd i have come to find very interesting skills. Thanks for the ffort you put on it.

[@artofmanliness]

Thank you for the kind appreciation. Glad to hear AoM has helped foster your growth.

[@willdaisy8450]

I'm here because I was told many years ago buy a very distinguished gentleman in the state of Louisiana( son you know why I like having you around me you come with a rare quality found in young men today you have honor and loyalty and that means everything to me) I'm not a very smart man it took me time to dissect these words he spoke RIP Larry J Blanchard love you miss you and thank you for helping meet become the man I am

[@christianvera4262]

Man this video has so much Value thank you brother for the clarity

[@ralfgroh2719]

I really appreciate your strong presentations are always very meaningful and instructive. Keep up the good work. Thanks!

[@CptZephyr]

I love your stuff! I am so surprised I have never been suggested your videos before.

[@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032]

I must find the Avatar to restore my honor.

[@user-nl6md8pu6y]

1:29 "An honor group *must* be a society of equals" 1:51 "Egalitarianism and honor *cannot* coexist" The definition of Egalitarianism *is* a society of equals... I think what you meant to say was; "Members must qualify for the group according to the required standards to be considered an equal within the group." An honor group could absolutely exist within an egalitarian society (example: The military of a communist state). However no matter what way you chose to explain this it would still be in conflict with how you defined vertical honor 3:21 "giving praise to those who are superior - hierarchical & competitive" . The only 'vertical honor' that could exist in a 'society of equals' is an accumulation of honorable accolades (example: two soldiers: a recruit & a veteran are equally honorable but one has had more opportunities to demonstrate it) and not an indicator of status within the group (example: rank, priority & privileges). In fact I would argue against the idea that anything eccentric such as privilege or priority is dishonorable. Honor groups need leaders however those leaders need not consider themselves 'superior' to others. A leader who would sacrifice others for himself or demand others serve him due to his rank is a coward or weak or both. That man is not honorable and if he is the head of your group how could your group itself be considered honorable? Your group must be equal to be honorable and if it is then vertical honor would not look like a commander ordering soldiers to die protecting him. It would look like the honorable soldiers being compelled to volunteer their lives in defense of his leadership to preserve the co-ordination of the group. Its the difference between dying for a man and dying for your honor group. I think this is a crucial difference and should be remembered so that we can identify dishonorable leaders today. Dishonorable leader: Kim Jong Un, who would send countless of his own to their slaughter in order to protect himself. Honorable leader: Winston Churchill, who those honorable would die to defend so that he may sustain the group.

[@juventus8113]

Okay Stalin. P.S I'm Georgian

[@user-nl6md8pu6y]

lasha goshadze P.S I'm not actually Stalin and nobody gives a fuck.

[@yevhenkondrashyn5162]

+Corey Knight Stalin

[@Folkvangr9]

+Corey Knight Winston Churchill an honorable leader. GG boer, irish and indians. Heh.

[@AslansMane88]

+Corey Knight Egalitarianism is equality of result indifferent to equality of effort and achievement. A society of equals are a group of people who meet basic standards of effort and achievement. Your definition was not quite accurate.

[@artofmanliness]

What is Honor? [VIDEO]

[@lanasmith4795]

***** then pistols at dawn never happened?

[@lanasmith4795]

***** you have a very romanticized view of melle combat i recomend actual reasearch

[@GadgeteerZA]

A matter of honour was settled a few centuries ago with duelling pistols so I'd say that firearms are actually in keeping with "tradition".

[@AVVeratu]

Which would be more courageous, the trained soldier relishing the battle, or the young volunteer next to him who has to fight the urge to turn and run, yet still ventures into battle? I must agree that fire arms present the most cowardly form of battle. Hand any spineless wimp a .357 and suddenly they have this synthetic authority, but its an appeal to force, not a position I would respect much. Its an issue that this film deals with, a woman seeking revenge, feeling power over her attackers because of the fire arm. www.imdb.com/title/tt0476964/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6

[@lanasmith4795]

AV Veratu​ I would have thought that leaving explosives to be triggered upon your enemies return would be more cowardly or perhaps the use of drones so that a person miles from the battlefield could slay those who place themselves in harms way

[@lewisnunn8072]

Honor is the condition of living up to higher truths (such as duty, honesty, kindness, compassion) and persistence in these qualities despite adversity. It is not based on the opinion of others. Outlandish example: a German turning on Hitler for all the right reasons would have the general quality called honor. If every one of his peers had a bad opinion of him, this would not change this one man’s attainment to higher truths. Thank you for making me consider this though. Great topic.

[@brianpxc]

SMIB Well done as always. Thank you.

[@corym.johnson7241]

@Art of Manliness, another solid bastion of honor is our military. Active duty, reserves, vets, and their families will agree. It's exactly as you describe but with lives on the line.

[@imhellag]

I'd love to see a version of this for the business world. As a young person making moves in a world mostly dominated by older men, it'd be so great.

[@SanDmaNTheFreakTrucker]

Very well said sir. I show respect to both those above me such as a boss and more importantly, those society would deem as inferior...such as a homeless person. To me, they are both equal only separated by opportunity and money.

[@marmot1434]

What is honor? Something that Zuko needs

[@nomadicshai]

He never lost it he lost his fathers respect

[@itsmisterbojangles]

While i appreciate and practice honor, we can't talk about honor w/out mentioning condescending honor, or honoring those who are weaker than you, because they are weaker than you. This, in the ancient and not modern vernacular, is called "charity." What's more, i hate fraternal organizations. It's where the insecure meet and make phony ceremonies to promote each other to heights they could not otherwise attain, because their self worth and character is lacking. Otherwise, great video, Brett!! Keep 'em coming.

[@haydnmarquez8223]

Thank you! For this video!

[@artofmanliness]

Jesse Marquez You're welcome.

[@christopherharper9932]

Honor is a rare thing nowadays!

[@Caine846]

Some months ago I read a book called "The Manipulated Man" by Ester Vilar. In it, she said that male honor is something invented by women to manipulate us. Overall it's a good book, but I think that bit is no true. Especially considering all of what you said that goes along with Jack Donovan's "The way of Men" where he talks about the tactical virtues of manhood: Strenght, Honor, Mastery and Courage. Great video, thank you.

[@pH7oslo]

Ivan Simba She's both right and wrong. On the one hand you have the concept/mechanism of honor, which is part of the male nature (generally speaking). On the other hand you have specific sets of rules, codes of honor, that may have been "invented" by women to manipulate men. These usually fall under "benevolent sexism", favoring women, sometimes even at the expense of men. Who "invented" them is largely irrelevant, though. Just like with any other set of rules, it's our personal responsibility to judge them according to (our) moral and ethical standards. It doesn't matter if it's the by-laws of an organization we're a member of, common law or a code of conduct/honor that we've adopted - none of these are inherently "good" or "bad", they're just rules made up by humans. The rules aren't as much rules as guidelines, though, relating to the shared underlying values, an expressed intent rather than laws and regulations (which can be bent, although not without losing honor). It's sort of the "essence of collaboration", different from simple coexistence in that it "strives upwards", be it for prosperity, improved survivability or life quality - possibly at the cost of those following the honor code, but not necessarily. It's one of the most powerful tools humans possess, and as with all other tools, it can be used for both "good" and "bad".

[@Caine846]

pH7oslo Exactly, I understood that the same way. And the problem is that in our culture many people(especially since the arrival of the radical feminism) have tried to shame men when they display the concept/mechanism of honor, which is part of the male nature like you explain while at the same time they still try to take advantage of the other "codes of honor" that they created to benefit them as women.

[@simmosimsim]

Honorable job there, These short videos are great! Sometimes I dont have the concentration or time for the articles so i appreciate the effort. keep it up !

[@MegaVolz]

I just subscribed and this is the first video I watched. Awesome explanation. I reviewed an article on Beowulf from "Art of Manliness" on honor about a month ago. I have been active duty Army for going on 16 years now and we have been trying to pound honor into our young Soldiers. I will have my team review this video. I will also lead a discussion on Honor in our military. Good stuff!

[@theguywiththemouse3567]

I really like your videos and books watched and read them all

[@maddiee1271]

Zuko would be proud.

[@Urspo]

This is marvelous - and spot-on. Well done.

[@Natedoc808]

Excellent video, sir.

[@vicentecfn]

Great video. Didn't expect less from AoM.

[@maxwelljarman7785]

Thank you! This will help me in my West Point application.

[@rivers9457]

Bretts making gains! also anyone recommend any good books on manliness?

[@artofmanliness]

Here you go: www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/19/mens-reading-list/

[@rivers9457]

Thank you :)

[@daveabbott8783]

Growing up I had a lot of honour - I guess my Dad brought me up to have it, this lead me having a great group of mates - I was 12-13 with such a tight knit group of mates - I guess you could call that an honour group, and I was the centre of it all. Its a hard feeling to explain now I've lost it, but it feels like you have a place, you feel rock solid in your integrity of yourself. But it all fell apart when girls got involved in my life and I would do anything to feel the way I did back then. -

[@TheEdgarDude]

Really like these kind of videos, keep it up man !

[@summerwine9918]

Great video, Brett! A bit off topic but did anyone else notice the book on the bottom-left of the bookshelf suddenly slide down around 01:58?

[@fiviifjj]

Really good video! Thanks for making it. It was quite informative.

[@gentlemandemon]

While the classical application of honor can be a compelling concept, it has some dangerous consequences in certain situations. Take fraternities, for example. Most are upstanding fraternal organizations who contribute to charity and create a genuine sense of brotherhood, some take the in-group/out-group dynamics to extremes. Aside from creating progressively more arbitrary standards by which they can artificially inflate exclusivity (not unlike the chapter of SAE that had an organized chant about excluding black people), they can also take the opportunity to freely abuse people seeking admittance to in-group, which has caused deadly hazing situations. Police organizations having this sort of honor also creates a barrier that could cause them to look down on the people they are supposed to protect and go to the unquestioning defense of their members who break their honor code simply to protect the image of the group. I can appreciate this concept of honor (Marines being one of the better examples that comes to mind), but I also think an increasingly anonymous society is not the primary cause of its decline.

[@matthewjbarron]

Makes me think of parliamentary procedure, especially as found in *Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised*, which I think of as a codified form of mutual honor and respect.

[@harrisonsublett7914]

Great video, Brett, I definitely want to try to incorporate some type of honor code on my lacrosse team! When do you think the honor code video is coming, I'd like some help on what to include!

[@shnitzelpickle1]

Very informative... thank you

[@alfradoshanchez8845]

Courage is being scared to death but still getting in the saddle.

[@TonoFonseca]

I once read an article written by Paul Robinson titled '"Always With Honour": The Code of the White Russian Officers'. You can probably find it on JSTOR or some other place like that. It's about the mentality that the White Russian Army had going in to fight the Bolsheviks, despite being severely outnumbered. You may think that their mentality is obsolete today... but maybe not. Read it and see what you think.

[@Nutmegp]

Honour*

[@the_light_writer]

It's "honor" in the United States.

[@Nutmegp]

I know, i was trying to be inflammatory as everyone knows the English way of using the English language is correct, we are English after all

[@skynyrd7411]

NutmegPluto Yeah and the English language isn't even English anymore. Its changed too much.

[@malaquiasalfaro81]

NutmegPluto That's very ignorant of you to say

[@Conquerthe_world]

NutmegPluto no.

[@TheyRiseBand]

In today's world, everyone should be honored for simply not being insane. It's a crazy world!

[@clamsr8565]

I wanted to what honor was in the context that someone told me. How king David didn't dishonor saul, but he honored him even though they didn't see eye to eye.

[@evan4856]

To me honor is just staying true to yourself and others. Honor and respect can be the same thing to me

[@theoriginal11charlie]

Wow! Just wow.

[@TheNotoriousHaha]

i never had a father so these videos teach me of what a man should do glad i found it before i turned into a beta slacker wish you still uploaded

[@matheusfrota95]

Awesome !

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

Yes... truly good people, do good things when nobody's looking... They do good for those who can never repay as well.... But in today's "rap culture" that's looked at as being weak.

[@xavier3961]

***** While the White Politician Steals while you are looking. A thief has no color or a fool common sense.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Lack of a measure of honor (i.e the group) then its a potential failure. The deficient (not despicable - from the article) are a excluded majority that the honor group attacks in some ways. "Each individual man’s reputation for courage in the group added to the group’s reputation for courage and strength." so some individual virtues are a group benefit, the many have a boost from the few i.e. that is honor.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Thus a broader code of honor is a country wide and is whats creating a national cohesion. (from The Victorian Honor Code article)

[@Bongoid]

So in a modern nutshell, modern honor is respect and integrity

[@LanNguyen-hi4qs]

Hey Brett! You should really speak at the 21 convention!

[@thetommy1903]

Great video. But I noticed something odd that raised a question. You used combat and the military as a major example of honor but didn't mention them as one of the few groups with honor today along with firefighters and church's. Do you believe that this classic former of honor is still present in today's modern military? Or has it faded out because of the size of today military?

[@artofmanliness]

The omission wasn't intentional. I think I didn't mention it because the example was used throughout the vid. I would imagine that honor still exists in the military, especially in combat groups. But as I did not serve myself, I'll let former and current military members answer the question.

[@drewalmy9820]

Art of Manliness Honor is still a very big part of the military, in fact it's one of the keystones of our code of conduct. The Army values are Loyalty, Duty, Integrity, Honor, Selfless Service, Personal Courage, and Respect. Without one, the others have less worth, and Honor is one of the values that is heavily emphasized throughout our careers.

[@dakotajones4596]

Brett, can you respond to my comment? I'm a 16 year old looking to become a man, and I look up to you. I'm a huge fan. Doing that would make my night. 😂

[@artofmanliness]

Thanks for the comment Dakota! Stay manly my friend.

[@UNSCAce]

Dakota Jones Oh, thank God I'm not the only teenager doing this xD I thought I was alone on this one!

[@ferferfernanana]

UNSCAce we are 3 now haha 😂

[@williamadderley1992]

UNSCAce You are not alone my friend :)

[@matthewknorr2478]

Dakota Jones I'm 15, but I'm mainly just here for the how to's. But I love these kinds of videos to. Goes along with what I've learned in JROTC and Civil Air Patrol. Join!

[@LOOM-3D]

Honour is the separation between us and them? The idea of us and them and not trying to understand the other, IMO leads to needless conflict. I'm not attacking the idea of honour but rather that of an "in" group and an "out" group

[@VisterChrad]

Hi man, great video, lot's of stuff for extra thought! It was just what I needed today. Also, may I ask for the song in the outtro?

[@miguelchapuis6237]

What's the relation between honor and vengence?

[@MindSetFeelGood]

Awesome

[@MrImagin]

Great video, Brett. Thanks for making it. (side note: it looked a bit out of focus on your face)

[@elijahschott9978]

Honor which cannot be lost is gallantry in the face of the enemy. Once a bad ass always a bad ass.

[@GhostGameplayerLP]

for honorable man there is no death. only change of bodies

[@shahjmir]

HONOR

[@OldmanSunnyD]

Great Video!

[@Estrategista29]

What are those books behind you generally about? Have you read them all?

[@harry3351]

People knowing you won't fight due to peace and honour, but stil trying you because they know you won't fight back, Is it worth breaking self oaths to prove an opinion?

[@techpriest6962]

Honor is a rare trait in this hedonistic era.

[@rr.studios]

Zuko: *hOnOr* !?

[@bistro4]

Interesting video. But there is a flipside to this, isn't there? i.e. the willingness to do what you know is right, even when you will lose the respect of your group. Is that not also a part of manliness?

[@artofmanliness]

Ideally you belong to a group that shares your values, so that you don't experience a mismatch between your personal values and the group's code. But of course mismatches do happen. What to do in those situations is complex. Following your conscience is to be commended, but what if doing so will weaken your group, and even put your brothers in danger? Take the example of Army Sgt. Bergdahl; he followed his conscience in abandoning his post, but he put his comrades in danger who had to go looking for him, and his release required the release of potentially dangerous prisoners. Judged against the standard of integrity, he did the right thing. Judged against the standard of classical honor, his actions were highly dishonorable.

[@jamessethmoore]

That's the difference between honor and virtue

[@anthonyraz]

Out of the loop question. Are you a member of the free mason society? I'm new to the channel

[@artofmanliness]

Indeed.

[@anthonyraz]

Thanks for your response, congratulations on a great channel, I'm impressed

[@SifuKodiakc]

well said!

[@Theloveinabubble]

Zuko approves

[@cemilhoaf2215]

Uuuugh my honoooooooooorrr

[@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032]

HONOOOR!

[@aBigBadWolf]

How can I construct such social groups folling the outlined rules?

[@dinoasmr1514]

When I finally have a son I will teach him what it means to be a man and show him these vids

[@stealthapproach3389]

This is what modern society lacks. Not only on western world but every nation. We start leaning too much on individualism.

[@borislavsmilev7707]

Women need this.

[@jelskophfrodham7584]

I actually think everyone has a different kind of honour, I'm very egalitarian but I follow the old Knights code of honour, respect women and men equally, I'm also liberal and even though those don't generally mix, I've found harmony through it. If you want me to list it Mr.manly I will gladly do as such.

[@Gophilio4567]

+Jelskoph Frodham I'm interesed.

[@aviendha1154]

So I like the principal idea behind reviving "manliness" or rather reviving useful skills that aren't common place any more. But as a woman it feels very exclusionary. The advice and ideas given are mostly gender neutral. With the obvious exceptions, beard grooming for example. Being honourable for example is something that all people could benefit from.

[@aviendha1154]

+Jake Farquharson except that men don't wear makeup, but women have honour.....

[@MrLuc85]

+Kate Given you can still watch it, just imagine that all gender pronouns are switched.

[@aviendha1154]

+CanadianRedneck I can still watch it! Thank you oh wise and bountiful male, I'd never thought about actually watching the video before!

[@johnnymytaco]

+Kate Given i agree for the most part. But with the caveat being that it looks much different. a woman has never been praised for her physical strength or her courage in battle regardless of culture or point in history. her technical mastery has never been a quality that a man has looked for or admired in women. but there is a code. kindness, submission, self controlled, and pure.

[@aviendha1154]

+johnnymytaco in christian society yes, but when you study other (mostly dead) cultures you see the idea of feminine strength and wisdom (usually around cultural practices) being celebrated.

[@thecowboy9698]

Honor is one trait that is sadly lacking, not just among men, but human society as a whole.

[@jmcm152]

Can someone be part of multiple honor groups, with non-contradictory honor codes?

[@Sta1rway2Kevin]

A lot of these articles are interesting and even helpful. A lot of them seem to just be the importance of group think. Individuality has no place in "The Art of Manliness".

[@timrunke]

love honor truth

[@Beowolfenstein]

your hair looks so perfect that it looks fake lol.

[@artofmanliness]

I'll take that as a compliment.

[@aizik1992]

Art of Manliness or maybe you shouldn't 😂. Just kidding