Artorias cut dialogue has differences in japanese!

Showing the english audio+translated japanese subtitles from the game files. You can read more about this here: lokeysouls.com...
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[@CrestfallenChannel]

At 1:31, ''Admirable'' is a compliment for how well the player is fighting him. Some other possible translations are ''Bravo'', ''Very Well'', ''Brilliant'', etc.

[@EggBastion]

cough... er _very, good?_

[@CrestfallenChannel]

@@EggBastion Are you using google translate? It sounds like ''Ggh'' or ''Guh'' and google translates it as ''good''.

[@Mad_Mick]

"Ah, i'm sorry, guys... Sif..." It's that much more sad knowing his last thoughts were of Ciaran, Hawke, and even possibly Ornstein. Ontop of Sif, of course.

[@coleszero-one4750]

I've never seen the protagonist of Dragon Age 2 in Dark Souls, maybe it's a new DLC they made without us noticing. (I'm jokin', couldn't miss this chance)

[@IMayOrMayHaveNot]

I don't know... it comes across to me he is actually apologizing to the township people he couldn't save because he failed the mission, he couldn't bring Dusk back, on top of Sif who he was forced to leave behind. The translation is looking too modern in its expressions.

[@vladkhajiit4166]

@@IMayOrMayHaveNot im not sure. it's possible, but he's talking in a very familiar way (in the japanese subtitles), way too familiar to be talking to townsfolk he doesn't know. he's talking to friends

[@AntiSocialismo50]

Translation of cut content, peak lore analyzing.

[@iambiglucas]

This fight with that dialogue gives off such strong Ludwig vibes. Miyazaki must've been in full Bloodborne mode when he made Artorias of the Abyss dlc.

[@Rexfuselier]

Essentially with Chester

[@nackskott12]

Well, leaked files from within AoTA suggest this was made right as they were making early level geometry for Bloodborne. A really early, featureless version of the Upper Cathedral Ward is included in the unpatched version of AoTA. Given that the devs were clearly aware of Bloodborne before the DLC had been finished, the fact they included Chester seems like intentional foreshadowing.

[@Rusty_Spy]

**summon Sif** Ah... You were at my side... all along.

[@parkout95]

I mean There is a whole section in demon souls where it looks just like bloodborne You can tell they were itching to make a victorian-era horror setting

[@ChineseCaseoh]

Bloodborne aint out till 2015

[@TheSleepingSeer]

Unrelated, but man, 200 damage meant a lot more in the older games. That's practically chip damage anymore. I wonder what caused the "inflation" of damage.

[@grantdelosangeles5357]

Giant dad and strength builds that can 1-4 shot bosses that's why, I killed most bosses with my two handed strength build on my first playthrough in a few hits.

[@gabryblynd8058]

@@grantdelosangeles5357 i've beaten artorial in, i think 6-7 hits with my +15 strenght 32 zweihander lol. maybe, just maybe i'm a little overlevelled for Ng

[@mohalaidd]

The Abyss

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Magic builds and setups causes the damage inflation

[@clickbaitable6320]

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxxthey care too much about the main game “balance”. I’d enjoy Elden Ring more if the devs didn’t only care about meta builds and buff stacking being the only thing they want to “fix” by inflating boss health and damage and nothing else. Radahn is so nerfed idk why he’s a boss anymore and people bitching about him wasn’t even valid to begin with. It’s like the devs have some vendetta against players being OP in their single player games and want you to slog through a 5 to 15 minute boss by buffing them unnecessarily making it 20 or 30 minutes because they want you to play longer and force you to use buffs and cheap strats to maximize damage against them only to buff or nerf them based on player retention and drop off so all that meta work is for nothing when it can just be changed on a whim.

[@AntiSocialismo50]

If he had dialogue would be the most memorable boss

[@LeonIsLate]

It's more fitting for him to not have dialogue. Just a husk of a failed soldier once praised. It's summarizes the entire lore tbh

[@Marco-lr6yd]

nah its better without em

[@ozanozkirmizi47]

@@LeonIsLate I can not agree more...

[@gorgeousgentleman5390]

JeSUS Now be one with the D A R K

[@junkolover9518]

@@Marco-lr6yd he didn't say it would be better, but it would certainly be the most memorable one lol.

[@oscarpasarin8350]

**** SPOILER ALERT ***** Notice that Artorias's last words here in Japanese "結局、何もできなかった" are the same as Genichiro's last words in Sekiro before he uses the black blade on himself.

[@oldcowbb]

common theme through out the soulborne series, you spend your whole life on something and realize it means nothing at the end

[@TheAlison1456]

@oldcowbb what do you mean...? Ah, yes. Went hollow. Poor soul...

[@joakinglegend7664]

I love this detail, thanks for pointing it

[@queenvictoriann]

I wanna know Ciaran’s Japanese dialogue so badly. Does anyone know where I could find such a thing?

[@ambralemon]

One thing I hope I'm not the only one finds quite moving about Artorias: he's the only boss whose dying scream contains that of a human. You can clearly hear his human voice at the beginning of his last shout, as it slowly withers away into a corrupt gurgling reminiscent of all that is abyss-like. Truly a magnificent moment, I believe Miyazaki cut this great dialogue out to let the player boil in the feeling of sorrow that is bound to be experienced by meeting such a legend in this state and only like this, without being able to hear what they were truly like before failing their noble mission. And it is outstanding to see how these past few years the community has gathered to look into the japanese meaning of the dialogue, to truly see what Miyazaki had in mind and clear our doubts further. Great work

[@areyousureaboutthat8124]

What about priscilla?

[@ambralemon]

@@areyousureaboutthat8124 There, forgot about her. Kind of the only exception though, and her story is very different. She sounds resigned and disappointed, saddened by her death, while Artorias' scream is truly desperate. They're both conveying great sorrow to the player, but Priscilla is supposed to cause guilt, while Artorias causes something entirely different Thanks for pointing it out though, had completely forgotten about it

[@ambralemon]

@@areyousureaboutthat8124 also, wanted to add one bit: I don't think we can really count Priscilla's as a dying scream, because it's more of a moan and it's even a dialogue, while Artorias' is a sound queue not too dissimilar to that coming from other bosses that emit a noise specific to them on their death But these are technicalities and yes, Priscilla is also another enemy which emits a human sound upon death

[@meowcat5596]

But artorias was never a human though. He belonged to the race of lords, one of Gwyn's knights. And he's like 10 ft tall lol

[@UncoolForYou]

Cutting out dialog was a bad idea. Because you don't know what he's feeling. He's just another enemy. Like Sif having a secret cut scene so should have Artorias. Would have really fit together beautifully.

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

I love Artorias so much, this dialogue is so depressing, he’s the only one who experienced the true terror of the Abyss.

[@gorgeousgentleman5390]

Artorias : Manus prepare to Die.... Manus : *B o n k*

[@coal2710]

Gods too were hollows before they found their great souls in the flame, but they separated their souls from dark with great strength, only to be consumed by it while fighting against the spread of the Abyss.

[@Simte]

Nice to see an upload and to keep discovering things in these games. Thank you Crest.

[@TheFeri]

I really do wish this wouldn't have been cut...

[@Wormerizzator]

WOW! I... just... incredible finding, Crest! Formidable work!

[@TheAlison1456]

Holy fuck... I didn't know he spoke. Hearing his voice is so nuts.

[@AceBountyHunterRex]

I mean he's not really assuming your good so much as it seems he's hoping that humanity is more than darkness.

[@theraymunator]

Can we please talk about how Artorias' screaming and grunting sounds a lot like Guts from Berserk? There's no way that wasn't intentional.

[@keikom2522]

From what I read from the comments(I do not have a source) miyazaki himself said that this fight and the sword were inspired by guts So yeah, they should be similar

[@mfspectacular]

His pose in the cover art is the exact same as 1 of the berserk volume's cover arts. His front flip slam is exactly like when guts first used the berserker armor too. Alot of other stuff too

[@mfspectacular]

@HPLovecraftsCat dude these games are made by berserk fanboys 🤣

[@ungezoockt]

in the cutscene, before atorias throws the monster at you, the way he stands is a beserk reference .

[@mysticramen4104]

That is a ton of damage for the longsword

[@gabriellecollier8127]

Knowing that Artorias did not innately see a glimmer of light in mankind but merely hoped that the Chosen Undead _might_ not be pure dark changes my perception of him and makes him less heroic in a way, but the fact he thought humans were capable of harboring some light is meaningful, too.

[@chuongvulenguyen290]

I mean, he's not wrong, though. Human form is what granted by humanity, which is a part of dark soul

[@hoked2194]

People often forget that almost all beings aligned with the gods are racist towards humans and pygmies. Even Elizabeth, an immobile mushroom, throws shade at you for being a human.

[@thiago292]

​@@hoked2194well, it isn't racism if it's true, and humans in the Souls universe are the offspring of the Dark

[@hoked2194]

@@thiago292 Being an offspring of the Dark isn't justification for enslavement

[@thiago292]

@@hoked2194 I never said that, just that humans are the offspring of the Dark and the Gods being afraid of them is justified

[@iluvwalmartbags]

2:00 that scream is just….insane

[@Eleazarus16]

I just wanted to comment on how it seems like there are people who don't know what a "Cut Dialogue" is

[@metal_fusion]

The Ivory King and Astorias share similar stories

[@ryanschultz4119]

Certainly not 1 to question the genius of Miyazaki... But I definitely prefer Artorias having this dialogue!👍 Getting an insight into Artorias's mind, while he's in the midst of being overtaken by the Abyss. Makes him more of a sympathetic figure. Relays to us his struggle, and inner turmoil. After all his crusade to rid Oolycile of the Abyss/Manus. Was noble, selfless, & courageous.

[@KrymsonScale]

Catch 22, it feels perfect with the dialog and perfect without it. I can see why it would clash with Dark Souls' story telling, so that's probably why they cut it.

[@TheAlison1456]

Btw this talk of dark human souls is reminiscent of Nito's cloak and the intro of DkS2 Like, the people who suffered are possessing something, and someone, and drawing someone into Drangleic, enacting revenge out of spite

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

Yes, we know humanity comes from the Dark.

[@Obsidian_Flames]

Is there a possibility you were meant to find sif before this fight? Or be capable of summoning him prior to discovering him later on as a surprise for "jolly cooperation". Despite being kept in a barrier of holy aura

[@ryanschultz4119]

Have you ever defeated Artorias before fighting Sif in Darkroot..? If you do, the Chosen Undead has a different interaction/cutscene with Sif. Prior to the fight

[@_Tzer]

wonder about queelag. yes she also has cut dialogue.

[@flipperflapper6682]

How do people find the japanese dialogue version? Also assuming the fight is still pretty much the same for the cut content as the one we actually got, the cut content actually give hints that restoring Artorias sanity is actually possible. Assuming that he can actually talk during the fight where he is already at the 2nd phase where he surround himself in darkness But I guess thats why it is a cut content. So the dialogue don't matter. So it strengthen the idea that he is beyond help.

[@CrestfallenChannel]

It's still in the game files with the other dialogue texts.

[@Light-pb1yp]

Fav soulsborne Boss

[@theoneandonly2441]

Something about artorias saying "I'm sorry, guys" is so funny to me. Would have been better if it was "I'm sorry, everyone" or "I'm sorry, my friends." Nevertheless, I'm really sad this never made it in, even in the remaster edition.

[@xendrill6497]

How to change language from Japan to English? (PS3)

[@starcultiniser]

???? wtf im 99.9999% sure there was no dialogue when i fought artorias

[@velcalo]

This is cut dialogue from the game files. It doesn't actually play in the fight

[@Eleazarus16]

It seems like it's common for people not to read the word *"CUT"*

[@mextyle_327]

Pretty cool 👍

[@All-Father8549]

I play DS1R on the PS4 Pro, I never got this dialogue, I entered the fog room and it was silence, his cutscene played and silence. Through the whole battle, which I drew out to 2 minutes instead of just easily stat checking him, he said nothing, and I have voices on level 7 volume, everything else is at 6... So where was this? I didn't get any of this, he was just quiet.

[@sonjaperovic6356]

It's cut dialogue, meaning it didn't make it into the final version of the game, sadly.

[@anton.chigrinetc.96]

Why tf did they not keep this dialogue? The fight doesn't make more sense (he still can kill you when hitting the ground beside you), but at least, he seems less like a clown with a sword and more like a puppet that can't control his actions.

[@santana7827]

I think you're the only person in this world that has ever described artorias as a "clown with a sword"

[@Offline133]

@@santana7827ya

[@advaitthavare]

If you think Artorias was a "clown with a sword", you are very oblivious to your surroundings. I played Ds1 just to rush through all bosses, didn't care about story. YET, the game throws around enough clues to figure out that, Artorias is a defeated warrior, who is now controlled by darkness.

[@craner6871]

Whats the name of the ending song?

[@minespatch]

Firelink shrine theme

[@chaoskiller6084]

It's the Nexus theme from Demon's Souls (PS3)

[@timothyjamesdaguno6617]

Oh my

[@LordSleven]

Does anyone know who his VA is?

[@gamechronicles4406]

Is this canon ?

[@Eru_3ru]

did he have dialouge? i dont remember at all

[@chaoskiller6084]

He didn't, it was cut from the final game for unknown reasons.

[@dogehasagi8643]

Why I don't trigger any of his dialogue

[@Echoes34]

because it's cut content

[@Insky_]

no comments?

[@danknightk6987]

honestly i understand why they removed it it sounds terrible and by terrible i mean the voice actor

[@Verm0uth07]

What do you mean? it takes a good voice actor to do those screams and groans. The lines are delivered pretty good too.

[@danknightk6987]

@@Verm0uth07 the scream voice actor did an amazing job that's a 10/10 but the line voice actor is not fit to do artorias

[@grassblock7668]

@@danknightk6987 I mean, what do you think he should have sounded like? After all this is a young (young by DS standards) hero who failed in his mission, not some old myth like Ludwig or similiar.