Artosis 'Grilled': ""StarCraft is like a logic puzzle and art, all in one." (Episode #61)

[@da1185]

Hands down my favorite Artosis interview. it's always boggled my mind how the Starcraft community, which brands its self as a well mannered community, can treat certain people so poorly. I had a 3 year addiction to pro starcraft2, and it all started with Thorin's interview with my favorite player, Puma. Thanks, Thorin!

[@RaterisimoCBA]

This Acer guy, is really top notch doing interviews .. what is his name ? I think Artosis probably congratulated him after this very interview ... he engages in the same level of conversation with Artosis (which is pretty fucking good )

[@Qu3ridity]

A wonderful person, and he has the greatest view on the game. I'm glad you're here Artosis, the SCII community would not be the same without you!

[@psychique13]

Dan I fucking love you dude. Starcraft as an esport is incredibly lucky to have you behind it. Thank you for being so dedicated, well-spoken and fair.

[@sabeehkhan]

Love artosis so much, thanks to thoorin and acer for the interview!!

[@HeRoiiNgSuS]

I come from the Call of Duty side of eSports, I know I know we're all looked at as a non-eSport, but I really wish we had ambassadors like Artosis who are super knowledgeable, well spoken and just in general a good guy. What a fantastic person to rep your community and game.

[@Opethaholic]

What a great interview. Sc2 fans need to watch this, even in 2018, due to understanding balance an interesting pro level perspective of where SC2 came from. I found this extremely refreshing. Love Artotsis! Commentator did great too, obvious passion for this game here.

[@smellyjamelly]

I think this may have been the best star craft related interview I've ever seen.

[@Cafe7188]

Acer has the best interviews, asking real questions and opinions of certain players.

[@Jknessmic]

THIS Guy makes the best interviews

[@ZombieShibby]

love these interviews so much

[@azngoku666]

...did i just watch a philosophy discussion disguised as an esports interview? thorin, you're doing god's work :>

[@theterricsTV]

Excellent interview. Such a great discussion of the depth of starcraft gameplay.

[@silasmorgestern3834]

thank you, acer, for posting this. i appreciate the depth of the questions being asked and they are clearly targeted towards the right fellow.

[@Eikli]

Great interview guys!

[@BlizzGo]

I agree with the interviewer. One thing I love about Brood War was the "Asymmetrical Balancing", each race you play is in a little way a new game because the play style. The other thing about the turnover, I find that's due to the fact that Starcraft has too big of an emphasize on not fucking up. Like a small mistake can throw your entire game because units die so much faster.

[@Max14211]

sweet interview love this guy

[@SuiChoy]

Great great interview, good job

[@ZergD]

Excellent questions, and of course excellent Interview. Thank you : )

[@MrDixa987]

such a great interview, keep it up :D

[@callmeasmodeus]

Awesome interview, thank you Artosis!

[@FukPhysics]

great interview!

[@patrickgrant910]

After watching Artosis' recent videos where he descends deeper and deeper into despair regarding SC:BW balance, this video was hilarious. I can imagine Artosis screaming at his former self - "You Fking idiot! There is no balance! How is protoss Fair? the arbiter? and crazy zerg?? Are you effing kidding me?!" -Artosis probably

[@brandonthomas2665]

0:53 Artosis' face when the interviewer plays Protoss and complains about imba

[@13runo5]

great interview, really nice content. try to do one of these with huk or idra

[@wasdwasdcantmovelol1]

That was some deep s***. I really loved it! Artosis has always been my most favourite caster and he pairs up so well with Tasteless whom I respect a lot, too!

[@orioncmb]

It is so hard not to get stuck in thoughts in sc and or life. We must keep an open mind, and let the evolution flow~!

[@Acronysis]

thanks for doing a grilled with artosis =) id appreciate it if you put the date of the interview in the box. Just so I know how recent this is since it is a lot of balance discussion, etc.

[@Endorsememe]

Nice Interview!

[@pablillo1109]

totally agree! this is, for me, what distinguishes an amazing from a great player, very hard to explain and/or codify. "gamesense" is the word for it in games/sports

[@aznc0ffe388]

artosis is truly a top of the line game commentator

[@1221Genocide]

Artosis is most definitely the best caster there is

[@Bobby.Kristensen]

Keep up the good work Artosis! :)

[@mikeshvulco]

Artosis & Apollo = Dreamteam

[@sirbonjwa]

dammit and im into playing sc2 again damn you artosis

[@lalalamooone]

aceresportteam youtube channel is basically thorin's interview channel

[@officialmcdeath]

Nerd-historian archon, well done both! \m/

[@Pyrolupusboey]

I was thinking of all these questions, especially in the finals (Flash v Life) watching Life after was underwhelming. Its a strange effect when you see players who are good get dominated a few months after glory.

[@HearterSG]

great interview. artosis is a genius.

[@marcusmeins1839]

Meanehile on twitch : UURR UURR UURR

[@esspkay]

Great interview overall. However, there were quite a few leading questions to the benefit of BW; I feel that many who seem to be looking for comparisons unnecessarily. BW was different, not only in game play, but also in time (it had ~10 years to develop, and the world was really learning what an RTS was) and intention. SC2 is far from perfect, but so was BW - Artosis does a good job of pointing out many of the positives the latter has to offer, and he clearly has hope for the game's future.

[@RaterisimoCBA]

"I now understand what needs to be done" - Artosis on MC vs Stephano :O

[@blondedd]

Yeah Grilled with Artosis

[@ImDrizzt]

artosis is awesome, yay, and so is this interviewer, x2 yay

[@MrLag1337]

finally you grilled artosis, most interesting esports worker!

[@mustarsic]

what cafe is this and where?

[@FCGexperience]

each match up and each map variation there is usually there are optimal build orders depending on scouting or their early timing push for protoss for me i find vs zerg i use a heavy zeolots into pheonix then voids/tempest is nice. Vs terran i like getting high templars and protoss i cant go without immortals unno :)

[@MageKirby]

The only REAL problem I felt in BW balance was one thing about protoss. Zerg and Terran had this thing where they can have one mindset and win. A defensive terran can use that same mentality for both vZ and vP and be very effective. An offensive zerg can use that same mentality for both vT and vP. But Protoss vZ needs to be more defensive and harassing while vT Protoss needs to be more offensive. And due to this, Protoss plays need some element of luck and/or be bipolar. Thats why the most accomplished protoss, Bisu, was the zerg killer. Since PvT is mostly preferred by Protoss, he could get away with his mechanics and the opponents' discomfort. And he bodied zergs. And all the other protoss didn't have such a big dominance as Bisu.

[@matrixxART]

How to make a fun and balanced game: Give everyone a ton of great options in each situation. Allow players to manipulate how many options and what kind of options their opponent has. Tend to favour aggressive options slightly. Tada!

[@matrixxART]

oh and most importantly, predictable options must tend to be pretty bad.

[@avisionofsorrow]

Artosis is one of those chaps you wish you were friends with. Sweet and funny guy.

[@Komatik_]

Odd to see him saying the three-base cap isn't a problem. Coupled with the sheer speed of the economy it means at the most high, abstract level the natural counter to deathball/turtle type play is missing, which forces answers to be made at faction/unit level, or just to ignore the problem. Which then leads into rather awkward-looking games where something feels off but you have a hard time pointing out what exactly.

[@Reminiscable]

Gets amazingly interesting at 34:27

[@bobhuang7468]

Where was this filmed?

[@Prometheus4096]

I made the worker argument 2 years before SC2 release. I

[@loldoctor]

and tanks!

[@mitkostefanov2258]

the key is to take a drink after every answer :P nice job

[@Rumplefrumple]

SC:BW is superior for massive battles because the units dont bunch up as much as they do in SC2. watching 2 massive balls clash together is nowhere near as interesting to watch. the maps also had more points of engagement since static defense in BW is rarely able to fully defend harass. epic storms and reaver shots are an incredible thing to see especially when they whiff or land in a big way. so many other things i prefer about BW but SC2 is still a great game.

[@pablillo1109]

tacit knowledge is what he meant by "feeling" at 40:00 i think

[@sm-xc6fn]

Nice interview and some really great questions. I'm sorry but not trying to sound nasty, just some constructive criticism for the interviewer. It's kind of annoying the way your voice gets higher at the end of almost every sentence. Thanks again for the upload though.

[@dimension187]

nice!

[@Andman02]

i really enjoyed this, but this is more of a discussion than an interview.

[@mikumikuiyada]

its easy to balance terran at lower levels. your damage of terran units is scaled increase by 400/ your APM.

[@Khananane]

Artosis is so great. To say like in the video, i'll Artosis is unbalanced compare to other casters. Is Artosis broken? what make him so great... hard to tell so many things but we just love you man !!!!!!

[@4LackOfaBetterNam3]

would artosis be one of the top foreigners today if he had a computer when he first arrived?

[@Lunareste]

I came when Artosis said "Legacy of the Void"

[@RMJ1984]

3 base cap is a huge huge problem. One that i dont see Blizzard having the balls to fix. They need to remove 1 or 2 patches from expansions. So that 3 cap isnt just the best, Because its pointless to have maps full of expansions when 3 is just the cap. There needs to be more like Broodwar, having 4 having 5 mining bases.

[@juliusgrebnesor82]

08:21 that's the longest sentence I've heard so far.

[@rask4p]

Dude, claiming that someone is cheesy or micro based is ignoring that evolution of a game! How about we realize that a win is as meaningful as any other and just let history speak for itself! At some point you have to realize that nothing is cheesy, there is just an incomplete meta.

[@DerrickGomez]

Artosis fpr Prez!!!

[@Raskerzzz]

Apollo

[@aznc0ffe388]

mmm artosis

[@Winterkingdom1]

tastosis and doa/montecristo are the best casters imo.

[@bradleysmith9924]

He should work at Blizzard.

[@inkberrywastaken]

World of tanks is one of those games that RTS players will enjoy more than a MOBA.

[@Bobby.Kristensen]

I've hated forcefield since day one (I play Protoss).

[@Xerrea]

i think i'd rather read such a long interview than hear it

[@simoneRV]

I should give a bit of more power to the Zealots. In SC1 they were sooo good and useful, even in late game! Now in SC2 they suck!

[@grarosting]

it's a conversation...

[@boxadk]

Mobas and shooters. A whole lot of shooters.

[@fatmaru]

Is Artosis high?

[@bryanxiong890]

Artosis don't think Boxer is a bonjwa!!

[@Jusseppe]

0:45:45 dude with a purse.

[@simoneRV]

I would*..

[@FCGexperience]

mixing artosis and tastless into one character with idra would be cool lol hybrid casters :D just so idra could knock that one dude for casting too good at lmao.

[@LeagueofSickCunts]

Your comment made me feel very uncomfortable.

[@BigHippo777]

its a fun game but not too much to be analytical about in CoD...

[@asdasdasdasd61932]

sc2 is like LOGIC CHESS

[@beforeeee]

No, there will be FPSs and MOBAs.

[@HeRoiiNgSuS]

You obviously don't know the CoD competitive community. It's overrun with some of the most egotistical players, commentators and ambassadors in the entire Esport scene. It's pathetic and someone like Artosis who is knowledgeable and well spoken as well as respectful would go a long way in legitimizing our community,

[@Applest2oApples]

Doa LOL

[@HeliconPath]

Splash damage too strong. Units die too fast. Counters are too hard. Warp in forces all in play.

[@FlipFlopViking]

they dont compare to the giants the mobas are today

[@11gingin]

c and c 3 is better then both, ta is best overall

[@YONS27]

pls write abook^^

[@DarkScreamGames]

If sc2 crashes and burns, there will be only mobas.

[@Rumplefrumple]

how is watching people control 1 unit at a time interesting? doesnt seem nearly as engaging or difficult.

[@Nesserev]

Don't forget World of Tanks, Kappa :)

[@The_Scouts_Code]

Skill is the only determinant worth considering, therefore, let's double the HP and attack damage of the marine and halve its mineral cost. If you were really the better player, you would win.

[@Mrfiufaufou]

Low league players giving balance tips 5/5

[@KaWaWu]

the distance between artosis' eyes is very wide. he should try wearing glasses.