"He makes an engineering bay because we're not watching ForGG anymore", bahaha.
@Choristoceras17 күн бұрын
Made me laugh out loud too XD
@markmuller796217 күн бұрын
So this is a safer version of the ForGG build? Mixing up liaths and turrets? Or maybe just an old build? Edit: As safe as a cc first can be ofc
@erichimes671617 күн бұрын
This was hilarious
@hydragamermv305217 күн бұрын
that was so dry, it surprised me he didn't laugh after xD
@endoleon276517 күн бұрын
lmfao
@tenpai573117 күн бұрын
Watching this video in my refrigerator so I can get the chills out of the way in advance
@FlymanMS17 күн бұрын
Goliath's upgraded blue rocket flame is among the most beautiful things in this game. This whole game had a feel of Flash saying: "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man??" about hydras and mutas not scaling well against upgraded tanks and goliaths.
@yubyubyub196017 күн бұрын
Artosis you have singlehandedly turned my December from a disaster to slightly less of a disaster but now with Flash,and I love you for it.
@gregjuva17 күн бұрын
Another new years Flashmas gift from Arty! 🎉
@Cool_Goose17 күн бұрын
ForGG started crying when he saw the turrets :P
@UCfjZmDYoZY3laj2mfiinm7gc6 күн бұрын
he does turrets with legs
@jamesgraessle729517 күн бұрын
oooh this one is hype!! 1:40 "nothing crazy's gonna happen" flash: "hold my ridiculous thermos." 2:20 ROFL!!! 3:52 ooooh 14cc into factory! I SENSE THE LEGENDARY FLASH MECH BUILD! as RT has often told us, mech becomes a math problem quickly, and right now, with the 14cc, flash is trying to make this zerg's math problem! 4:17 WOAH! second gas. this is absurdly early, before the first factory finishes, idk if this is because of how much mineral income he has, and he needs gas to stay balanced, or because he intends to go tanks very early in the game, SHOULD BE FUN! 4:44 i'm very confused by no reaction to the second gas being built at an absurd timing right in front of the ovie. 5:08 my brain says zerg dies to this, but maybe 104723 lings will pop just in time to hold this and z will be ok. 5:20 so the shop finishes, what are we doing with all this gas? gonna get +1 attack and then quick 2/1 on 2 base? tanks? just 5 factory gol with range? 5:43 "this will be a little bit annoying" flash "ok gimme my thermos back." This is NOT RT's fault guys, flash just magically does stuff and no one understands why it works lol. 6:03 wtf that fast gas was for 1/1. is he going to just try to bowl him over with like 18 gols at 1/1 or is he intending to go to 2/2 really quick? also rofl forgg hates turrets. 6:15 i feel like there should be a 3rd factory if flash intends to go all in on 1/1... he's not gonna have much when 1/1 finishes. 6:32 starport, yup, looks like 2/2! gonna time that science facility right around the time 1/1 finishes to start 2/2, probably add factories at that time, and then go into his 3rd and 4th base, get seige mode, and go into his endgame comp with absurd upgrades, i'd guess. 7:02 my internal clock is being thrown off by the cc first and quick 3rd from Z but that feels quick on the evo; against bio that's a tell for crazyzerg but i don't love that idea against mech. maybe just feels like he needs quick carapace and lots of hydras to fight against all this. 7:22 vulture speed, 3rd fac, control tower, science facility. perhaps intending to mix in some number of vultures to be able to make 1 port vessels? or simply to add valkiries, which have been known to be an interesting idea for hunting down queens while they try to get energy in the corner of the map. 7:55 beautiful timing on the science facility finishing, right as 1/1 does, 4th fac (if i've counted right) still on 1 shop so just goliaths, let's see if he takes a 3rd and 4th here and goes into tanks. 8:26 3rd cc! will there be a 4th! 8:41 latest academy in the history of the matchup lol 9:03 "he is gonna need to get into siege tanks" Flash: *instantly starts siege mode* well! point for RT! also 5th fac starts. also wtf +1 flyer attacks for z?? i... guess he wants mutas to stay relevant to potentially pick off tanks? 9:38 interesting that he still has not used the control tower, nor has he added a second shop. (immediately adds second shop) yeah, he got me too lol. 10:21 oh man that's that 1/1, and when 2/2 finishes... this is gonna be ugly. the ups are too good right now! lol crazy how strong that is. 10:40 idk, RT... might be too early for a cc snipe, there's too much left in the main and nat at 11 minutes, i think. still i mean, probably better than losing all of that stuff for basically nothing rofl. mines and 4th cc, ok, here we go! moar shops plz! 11:11 note flash not banking for 3/3, probably will move out here, i think also rofl 11:20 3 scanners 11:35 11 mutas as hive about to finish? 11 says it's probably just mutas for sniping tanks, but the timing says maybe he wants to go greater spire??? only i have no idea why he would do that. 12:07 wow +2 flyer attacks, just trying to eat through that tank armor, i guess, very interesting! flash musta seen it and adds about a billion turrets in his main 12:36 this seems to be a superpower of the best players in the world; their macro cycles finish right as they get attacked. HAHA! 5 goliaths popped right as you got here, get rekt. 13:17 it feels like flash has been building exactly 1 factory at a time nonstop since he started the science facility lol 14:42 WOW! THE MUTAS WITH CONSTANT ATTACK UPS!! what is this lol. unfortunate flash adds a 5th, this is pretty bad actually. although flash losing all those tanks is rough, he does have a lot of economy to just field another army. flash adds 3rd shop. 15:42 so i aggree with RT that queens have been a big problem for terran mech vs Z but i will add that i think if dashik had gone queens this game he would have lost his main. 17:13 Z has so little it looks like a bugged rep lol and that's how you 14cc into mech! thanks RT! wonder if he reads these...
@NealX_Gaming17 күн бұрын
Zerg has three choics against mech:, Lurker Defiler, Queens, and the third option we see here: lose.
@erickernfeld497716 күн бұрын
I know! No tech at all! WTF!
@tossterr8717 күн бұрын
"actually" once you hear it, you can't unhear it
@avinotion17 күн бұрын
Back to Flash again! Some might call it... a Flashback Which got me thinking: what do you call it when Flash is back on Deja Vu?
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
A FlashbaDeVu.
@BoxStudioExecutive17 күн бұрын
Flashback 2: Electric Dejavu
@lukeyval17 күн бұрын
Oh shit. Here we go again.
@j.mbarlow595217 күн бұрын
@@BoxStudioExecutive and the underrated comment of the year award goes to...! haha well done :D
@thunder____17 күн бұрын
Flash never got to finish +3 armor :(
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
At that point in the game, it felt more like a achievement for a 100% completion.
@helloken17 күн бұрын
Yeah, Flash didn't need to rebuild the armory that was destroyed, he barely took advantage of it anyway. Could of just waited until +3 attack finished then start +3 armor on the same remaining single armory, a minor optimization he could have done. I guess he just wanted the upgrade ASAP but then forgot because it's no longer synced up
@hekev17 күн бұрын
@@helloken Could have
@thunder____16 күн бұрын
@@hekev coulda
@XxMoonRazerxX17 күн бұрын
The bit about rushes being generally weaker in 2 player makes is very interesting. One of those unintuitive things that I'd have a hard time believing otherwise
@ChipperClipper117 күн бұрын
I wish every terran would go mech vs mutas. I'm so tired of seeing terrans get bullied.
@Merknilash17 күн бұрын
Terran hasn’t been bullied by Zerg since before brood war came out
@Choristoceras17 күн бұрын
The problem is spawn broodling is OP versus mech :(
@ChipperClipper117 күн бұрын
@@Merknilash watch arty fight for his life vs 7 mutas and get back to me
@Kilo_Alpha_Delta17 күн бұрын
@@Merknilash Soulkey has entered the chat.
@dylanbunko34017 күн бұрын
ForGG won't even build a S.P. or Turrets against Muta's
@sebastianosuch27317 күн бұрын
17:10 - the next 5 seconds are the most satyisfying.
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
"Hydras are good against Goliaths." Hydras against Goliaths:
@Peldinx17 күн бұрын
ridiculous not making defilers.
@동동동-x9b16 күн бұрын
"헉 (huk)" is pretty similar to how you gasp in English too.😂
@Radii_DC17 күн бұрын
His MECH is so CHILL!!!
@susiederkins661217 күн бұрын
Terran vs zerg, this is all starcraft should be, classic space marines fighting space bugs.
@MaleMan-o717 күн бұрын
Nah, protoss adds a whole other dimension
@Larsgman17 күн бұрын
This tbh. Ive always thought Protoss felt like a third wheel in starcraft. Like that weird little younger cousin trying to hang out with the older cool kids at a party
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
@@MaleMan-o7 Protoss are Eldar/Covenant faction of StarCraft.
@EebstertheGreat17 күн бұрын
Then how would you play Alien vs Predator?
@susiederkins661217 күн бұрын
@EebstertheGreat valid
@gabbyghoulish357417 күн бұрын
forGG is looking really good here
@stefanc452017 күн бұрын
What was the Zerg player doing with all that APM?!
@Pangora217 күн бұрын
certainly not building drones
@kozatas13 күн бұрын
@@Pangora2 Why did he bother to commentating this match? Zerg's 40 drones vs Terran's 75 scv's. One of them was wrong by a huge margin.
@TheDartdouble0517 күн бұрын
See you in 2025!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
@MaleMan-o717 күн бұрын
See y'all necks year
@SirMo8 күн бұрын
This is my favorite channel on KZbin.
@ZeeZeeNationsEntertainment15 күн бұрын
The only other caster that is at this level us tasteless. Keep up the great content. You should have millions the time and knowledge of the game and gamers. Thank you for everything you do. Been playing starcraft since the game came out even on the 64
@RuckDocBen17 күн бұрын
15:23 Arty, really appreciate your chess’esque terminology. It’s really elucidated why I suck so bad at both games 😂😂😂 Nevertheless, helps me appreciate how deep this game is, and the levels upon levels of understanding-not to mention skill.
@MrGuibig17 күн бұрын
10:24 Game was over when Flash had 65 scv and supply for zerg hits 68...
@alwaon382016 күн бұрын
11:01 “you could have 400 thousand siege tanks. One lurker under dark swarm will not die” I like Artosis comments 😁
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
Flyer Carapace against Goliaths is the same as Carapace vs Zealots. Goliaths shoot 2 missiles, so it's (2x(10-1))/2, which rounds down to 2x4. Instead of (2x10)/2, which rounds up to 2x5. In this case, Flash had +1 Vehicle Weapons before the Flyer Carapace, so it would be (2x(10+2-1))/2, rounds down to 2x5 again.
@EebstertheGreat17 күн бұрын
It doesn't round at all. Goliaths normally deal 10 explosive damage per missile. If they have no upgrades, but the flying target has 1 armor, they deal 9 explosive damage per missile. If the target is small, that is multiplied by 0.5 to get 4.5 damage per missile. After both missiles have hit, that's a total of 9 damage. No rounding. Values are only rounded to the nearest 1/256 point, not the nearest whole point. The exception is that if the damage would be reduced below 0.5, it is set to 0.5 damage instead.
@joelleet55417 күн бұрын
I've been a Flash fan since he first appeared on the Dukes of Hazard in Roscoe's police car
@Endlessmelody417 күн бұрын
Great cast. Hope all is well
@BLooDCoMPleX17 күн бұрын
He let his inner Ogre Zerg Gamer take control and Flash just said nah
@nealwilson874123 сағат бұрын
FLASH JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!! WOWOW
@bendangeruss50117 күн бұрын
Another fun game. Always love seeing Flash. Thanks.
@BlahBlah-uh2yi17 күн бұрын
This double armory build from flash after the CC first is so sick
@benn118117 күн бұрын
Load those hydras into overlords and drop em in the middle of the mech with the mutas covering
@foberdud757617 күн бұрын
Zerg needed more QUEENS and DEVOURERS 😆
@pintsofwatermelon566517 күн бұрын
Long time watcher. How are these replays available? Is there a way to view top ladder games?
@ArtosisCasts17 күн бұрын
Cwal.gg
@alwaon382016 күн бұрын
@@ArtosisCastswow, I didn’t know such website was available! Thanks for sharing 👍
@troyfiss933217 күн бұрын
Zerg out here just throwin resources away
@drewwalbeck600617 күн бұрын
2025 is the years we're gonna see ensnaring goliaths enter the meta
@tvlyt45617 күн бұрын
Mech start sets him up to deal with defiler tech.
@veryta11dude17 күн бұрын
I'm feeling chilly
@Bobby.Kristensen17 күн бұрын
Happy new year!
@Peldinx17 күн бұрын
flash baiting with the cc was pretty smort
@boibuoy865416 күн бұрын
wkd is a brand of vodka, flash plays ladder drunk
@johnnyboy356317 күн бұрын
Zerg decided he was never going to have more than 47 drones.... ok....
@anthonyc71917 күн бұрын
I find it truly incredible how Flash is still so good. I really hope he tries to de-throne Soulkey
@andallthatcouldhavebeen...917517 күн бұрын
Epic DP around 17 minute mark 😂
@gleboleinik643616 күн бұрын
Flash's mech builds are a thing of beauty. If he goes CC first into mech every game Zergs would be cooked.
@Ogogghe117 күн бұрын
- so what is the best build against zerg? Flash- mech and tank - and what about versus protoss? Flash- mech and tank
@AquaSZSSoo13 күн бұрын
Funny as it may sound, mutas are actually made to tank damage vs mech. The only units that hit up, Goliaths, aren't that efficient vs mutas (takes 13 shots).
@kurtzmann224 күн бұрын
If they had aoe missiles/rockets would be a different story, or if they could use their auto cannons as aa like marines and use the missiles for other flying units.
@crazymike40117 күн бұрын
I got chills, grabbed a blanket
@BinxyBrown17 күн бұрын
I wonder what his transition / game plan is if he does see queens. Maybe his timing attack is still so st ong he can tempo them out or maybe he has time to build enough valks to kill the queens during a followup attack before they get energy for a second go
@dragontamer932317 күн бұрын
It's probably maximum pressure. Just attack and do as much damage as possible before queens become relevant. You should have a few minutes from queen build (timer starts when resources are spent) until energy is built-up. Queens start to get value after spawn broodlings but it's a wife and predictable weakness. 10 queens could be 10 Mutalisks or 8 lurkers. It's a substantial investment. Science vessels and EMP also do well to negate Queen energy. It's micro heavy but it certainly changes the calculus. Wiping out 100 energy is another ~100 seconds of Queen charging.
@seankrolyk581417 күн бұрын
I was hoping flash would bust out that quick 3 fac gol build he did on stream the one time. Cant remeber exact order but it was CC first then when the first fac finished he build an armory and 2 more fac then spammed gols. It was awesome
@pivorsc17 күн бұрын
isnt armor against muta better cause mutalisk attack gets negated 3x?
@top5g04t17 күн бұрын
since it takes forever to tech into queens, wouldn't the mech player be able to answer with wraiths?
@phoenixlich17 күн бұрын
Zerg is so HYPE!
@hunlepto223917 күн бұрын
Last year, I decided to finish Starcraft campaing with the original graphics (yes, I know remastered existed), but stopped at Omega back then. This year, I completely finished Starcraft campaign and got interested in this channel (even if I don't wanna go into multiplayed due to the skill requirement). I have hope that this channel will keep me interested, because Artosis is such an enjoyable commenter.
@JustinHampton-l5j13 күн бұрын
Try it out, it's fun The skill requirement is only for competitive players Expect to be killed very quickly on ladder without a proper build and walloff
@hunlepto223913 күн бұрын
@@JustinHampton-l5j I think I'll stay with Warcraft 3. I much prefer having a hero unit, slower gameplay and overall more focus on unit movement than just production.
@JustinHampton-l5j13 күн бұрын
@hunlepto2239 it's much much slower paced, units can take a full minute to die unlike SC. Hero abilities and surrounds are the most threatening things. Hoping wow dies soon so we can have warcraft 4 by 2030
@hunlepto223913 күн бұрын
@@JustinHampton-l5j Oh, thought for a second that u were saying I should try out Starcraft multiplayer. But yeah, Warcraft 3 multiplayers incredibly appealling overall, I just want to quickly go through the campaigns first again before diving into the multiplayer (even if the gameplay is much more different due to starting on equal grounds).
@lunaticman8817 күн бұрын
Can you build wraiths to counter queens?
@Lappmogel2 сағат бұрын
12:53 instantly rebuilds armory , 13:42 its done but idle. 14:42 starts 3 armor upgrade. 15:06 3 weapons is done and the other armory is idle. . Worth it? Even if it wasn't idle idk. Surprised he rebuilt it tbh
@MeteCanKarahasan17 күн бұрын
I think Artosis is wrong on the muta hydra counter against terran mech. Mutalisks are small units while hydralisks are medium. Mutalisks soak damage from goliaths much better than hydralisks. What is more, hydralisks deal explosive damage while mutalisks deal normal. That means unless terran is active, mutalisks are going to aggro the terran while hydralisks are going to clear terran mech much more effectively than mutalisks alone.
@zapikachu16 күн бұрын
"Mutalisks soak damage from goliaths much better than hydralisks." You are correct. Starcraft damage rule is: "how much damage the attacking unit does, subtracts the armor of the receiving unit, then multiplies by the size vs. damage type modifier" This means getting armor for Mutalisks are great against Goliaths since the armor is counted TWICE due to it being two separate attacks. Also Goliath's Air Attack is Explosive Damage, that damage is already cut in half. So if Mutalisks get +3 Armor, that means Goliath with base damage of 10 (x2) will only do 7 damage total for both missiles hitting together. If Goliaths get +6 Damage, then it will do 13 instead of 7. The extra range helps it get the first hits from afar. But in a big enough Mutalisk ball, it doesn't matter.
@markmuller796217 күн бұрын
So this is a safer version of the ForGG build? Mixing up liaths and turrets? Or maybe an old build? Edit: As safe as a cc first can be ofc
@PrismaticRevolution17 күн бұрын
Artosis we miss you in gsl brother.
@JustinHampton-l5j13 күн бұрын
Z probably shouldve gone for swarm as mentioned, no? After losing the expo deny engagement convincingly, he was quite behind.
@Jmanstar17199617 күн бұрын
i saw flash destroy soulkey with this build on this map in a proleague
@tTutheyllyrr17 күн бұрын
over lata, pylon ma zasięg a supply wall wiesz o co chodzi? wszy co innego
@Merknilash17 күн бұрын
Cracklings and swarm would take care a lot of this without burning so much gas
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
Yeah, Mutas were worthless.
@DevonZastre-w4t7 күн бұрын
Haressey Stalkey theme on youtube
@RockBottomBrenny17 күн бұрын
If the mutas can pick a couple tanks *Mutas stop moving*
@joeo637817 күн бұрын
2 player maps and all walls are always sergling tight so we lose a lot of early game to walls.
@somecooney530417 күн бұрын
Soulkey needs to beat this Flash, to get Bonjwa. He needs to beat this mech cheese.
@Fanelan05317 күн бұрын
He's fun to watch
@baumanmarketinggaming17 күн бұрын
Armor upgrades should be specially good against bouncing glaives!
@narcirvalor271817 күн бұрын
Flash do this but another player can do this? Or can do that again a real prop player like larva or Jeadong?
@ABoy21711 күн бұрын
if he use zerglings and muta he will own it
@niangaoj17 күн бұрын
Brrrrr stay chilly my friends 🎉
@73Arathorn17 күн бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see FlaSh playing, I click.
@ozar_midrashim17 күн бұрын
I wonder what was the point of going Hive tech?
@ricex1817 күн бұрын
Great Flash game.
@dermensch255317 күн бұрын
wow... that was great by Flash...
@kevinf.255617 күн бұрын
Fair to say ForGG still has a long way to go to get back to his former glory compared to FlaSh :D
@Anviification17 күн бұрын
I hope Flash attempts to qualify for the next SSL 🙂
@LoLaSn10 күн бұрын
I've never seen zerg manfighting tank/goliath with hydra/muta before, especially since mech TvP comes once a year I don't understand why he didn't tech into queens/defilers instead of wasting 2k gas on mutas that barely did anything
@tTutheyllyrr17 күн бұрын
15:50 dwa tanki na siege mode daj tam do obrony
@cozos17 күн бұрын
i feel like the Zerg did not make enough drones and macro hatches. He overmade Hydras against a super slow 2 armory single player build
@nathanspeidel919517 күн бұрын
Why can’t we just watch Flash every day, huh? Huh?? HUH???
@DanBoy-c3l17 күн бұрын
Merry christmas god bless you. May the light of our lord Jesus shine brightly through you
@i2eB6L17 күн бұрын
sorry i left for a bit. but im back. flash always calls me back
@oj4308517 күн бұрын
that was an odd zerg build...
@andrerossel839417 күн бұрын
The counter to being attacked everywhere? Have superior units everywhere. Genius. He having queen's would have died 5 mins earlier Goliaths are good against queens anyway and move and attack way faster that tanks
@System-ly6de17 күн бұрын
Flash and ForGG r so interesting 2 watch
@thuperman522817 күн бұрын
Nukes do full damage vs Zerg
@justingagnier287117 күн бұрын
Maybe at the top levels they don't zerg rush. In the lower levels they rush all the time
@Kairi180517 күн бұрын
Flash said *no scv harass* 4you zergs 🤓
@effay320417 күн бұрын
I'm a D rank scrub but CC first into mech seems extremely difficult for Zerg to beat.
@muscovyducks17 күн бұрын
Good times
@pallytime215617 күн бұрын
Gols are also HP Chads not so much DPS Chads. For there price I think they have the highest HP to Min/Gas Ratio of any terrian unit by MILES. The fact they come with 1 armor just makes it worse. Its why they EAT Zerglings alive... to much HP and armor.
@Poyjs17 күн бұрын
I just love these vids, im not good at all at SC, just casuly play against bots XD But i just love this, this is my kind of " sports-tv "
@DOMDZ9091117 күн бұрын
Never clicked so fast in my life...
@tTutheyllyrr17 күн бұрын
to ja kolejke w oqlarach przesoałem na stojąco bo nikt rzaden rodak nie pomyślał by się posunąć 5cm
@-Nick-T17 күн бұрын
clean.
@VM-vb5eb12 күн бұрын
The zerg's strategic approach seemed really poor this game. No key tech, just more suicide hydra/muta without higher tech. Just weird man.