Light vs. Motive from the CasterMuse Star League Season 4 Check out CasterMuse: afreecatv.com/j... / castermuse / castermuse
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@MJ.Actual7 ай бұрын
Man I love Brood War nothing calms you like dropping into that jungle tile set and forget about it all. Such a great game. Im so glad I accidentally rented it on N64 23 years ago instead of Starfox.
@PeterParker-yg6fc3 жыл бұрын
i love all the different tones of artosis he gives us with his channels, even diff from his professional casting...i like the more relaxed nature of it. he's so good at casting
@blacklight4720 Жыл бұрын
That EMP in the end deserves more credit and applause.
@erickernfeld4977 Жыл бұрын
That was devastating. Hit four templars.
@Supperrman3 жыл бұрын
Seeing all those Carriers get wrecked is both painful, as a Protoss player, but also strangely satisfying
@imma52692 жыл бұрын
“TvP is a fantastic matchup on this map” Oh how times have changed haha
@NuclearCincy Жыл бұрын
“Protoss wr on this map is gross “
@gump891202 Жыл бұрын
,,,
@seronoradopanergic55453 жыл бұрын
At 3:20 when Artosis says “OOOOOOO”, that’s when I subscribed.
@domingorodriguez3077 Жыл бұрын
yea thats not creepy
@sir0herrbatka3 жыл бұрын
It is a rare case of protoss being able to produce a lot of carriers and still loose.
@Tobiash873 жыл бұрын
Just wraiths. The only viable way of disposing of carriers in a blink of an eye, because of their mobility. That's how you stop carrier numbers from growing. Goliaths are too clunky, and can be escaped easily, because of staying on the ground, and being limited in movement.
@soldier22881Ай бұрын
@@Tobiash87 yep this, i see way too many terran players just spamming factory instead of using terran strength of combined arms. wraiths may be brittle buy they are very useful especially stopping reaver drops
@adrianbundy324923 күн бұрын
It should be noted that motive for some reason never adjusted to the possibility of continual mass wraith production. Wraiths are destroyed so easily unfortunately with just a few things thrown in for protoss, reliably enough where it would be extremely hard to be a good carrier counter with them.
@LarsgmanАй бұрын
I love this 3 year old video. I think arty was at the peak of getting chills you can feel it in his voice
@Lukas_6_ayat_122 жыл бұрын
really like Light's strategy on this one.
@goodisgood1533 жыл бұрын
love this ! give us more varied gameplay by pros
@kierandh2 жыл бұрын
This game makes wraiths seem like the natural counter to carriers. Super cool
@bobmoandfriend2 жыл бұрын
why are they not? It seems relatively straightforward. Scan, wreck observers, wreck carriers, profit. Was it just the surprise factor of the uncommon strat, and Motive sending the carrier fleet off on its on a lot instead of supporting with gateway units? This seems super effective, if a little micro intensive..
@oldscoolest2 жыл бұрын
@@bobmoandfriend Protoss can just get a few extra ovservers, then as RT said just 3-4 corsairs will wipe the stackec wraiths instantly
@ivandovranic5834 Жыл бұрын
True, as soon as Protoss starts deploying countermeasures, the wraith play becomes very tricky. Not impossible perhaps, but difficult to the point of being absurd to continue.
@SquareyCircley3 жыл бұрын
Nice game and cast. Light... what a boss.
@michaelmccarty1327 Жыл бұрын
So much back and forth! Awesome showing from both players.
@ciaomassi3 жыл бұрын
@ArtosisCasts, you should totally post full bo3-5-7 series when the tournament gets to later rounds!!!
@0Akeldama03 жыл бұрын
11:10 lol prism
@MNSalty3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these!! Love the insight and it’s a great way to spend my lunch break
@istovall26243 жыл бұрын
Corsair + disrupter web woulda been a decent addition to toss army
@soldier22881Ай бұрын
yeah just like wraiths i see too many protoss not using the tools blizzard gave them to succeed.
@kevinf.25569 ай бұрын
dude goes 3 starports and no HT in midgame and gets giga punished by wraiths - this was epic and so painful to watch. perfect execution of from light. trauma of the lifetime for motive. HTs later get executed by vultures. man flash just executed all of his strategies so damn flawless. literal executioner of motive.
@justingagnier28712 ай бұрын
I really needed to see a good way to handle carriers. Gg😊
@soldier22881Ай бұрын
love seeing wraiths, a way under used and underrated unit, i can see why though they get destroyed so fast because of their large unit size.
@guigomez34415 ай бұрын
Leitmotiv : Light Motive
@Lovedontmix Жыл бұрын
At Least T can fight back on this map. Thx for the content bro
@Artyom.Vnukov9 ай бұрын
I remember playing 1vs2 in 1999 or 2000. My friends went for mass carriers and mass battlecruisers and i countered this with mass wraiths. I won :)
@tylerwinkle3232 жыл бұрын
10:13 a failed drop is a failed drop, no excuses
@MasterRoshi89743 жыл бұрын
I love your casting man
@Blueterran53 жыл бұрын
Man, this was a fucking hell of a game!
@paulsanchez5030 Жыл бұрын
what a game !
@gasparmc Жыл бұрын
this is some good shit man, protoss insisted in a failed strategy
@FieldMarshallNey3 жыл бұрын
I never understood what purpose those neutral eggs serve
@Tr1pMind Жыл бұрын
is there a site i could find the actual game replay for this match? would make studying it much easier
@spicoledude10 ай бұрын
What the hell is a spell prism? Haha sick cast arty.
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg97092 жыл бұрын
Corsairs vs Wraith wouldn't work. Goliaths would pick off the short ranged Corsairs in less than 3 seconds. Also the wraiths are a bit more mobile than the corsairs and dance around them while the goliaths take them out.
@Jcui0305 Жыл бұрын
artosis, a little suggestion, I watch your video literally every night before i go to bed, would be better if you can post videos at higher res (eg 1440p)
@lhfirex2 жыл бұрын
Wraith reporting in.
@baatar5 ай бұрын
"Wraiths are not really a counter to carriers...Every wraith you see could've been a siege tank." No wonder this guy loses all the time.
@yellow61003 жыл бұрын
hEY GUY IN THE TUBE....
@petesahad692 Жыл бұрын
Pimpest plays
@gilburtfilburt8779 Жыл бұрын
I feel like good wraith micro is the last great frontier of PvT. I feel like if you were on top of everything (scans, cloaks, targeting observers) you could keep toss totally zoned the fuck out to an unreasonable degree. You'd either force insane numbers of obs or make P the turtle race with islands of safety around their cannons.
@flaviussaos4232 жыл бұрын
Hi I am a noob! and a dude tell me wraiths isnt't ok vs Toss. ^^
@ricex18 Жыл бұрын
First time seeing wraiths useful in tvp
@NuclearCincy Жыл бұрын
Say gg
@KnutFuchs Жыл бұрын
If only Protoss had a unit that does a lot of dmg against clumped up light air units....oh wait....
@ximbabwe02283 жыл бұрын
Remastered is nice but I'll miss Protoss Robotics Support
@AlexanderPalumbo2 жыл бұрын
Nothing happened to it. It’s still in the game…..
@petervlcko48583 жыл бұрын
worse protoss then me and i am not even pro and played like 10 years ago last time. he lost like 10 carriers due to not use them properly at beginning of fight. no reason to go with carriers away from your main army when it can support you. and also wrights are no weak or expensive. they are flying mechs and that pay off even without invisibility.
@bayasgalantsogtgerel33463 жыл бұрын
Motive isn’t a bad player but he didn’t change his playstyle properly as he did his Carrier play like he was facing standard mech where the carriers can go solo and use high ground advantage to pull out the Terran mech army and still easily survive as he can expand and do counter attacks and such. Motives fault was instinctively trying to play like that despite the constant threat of cloaked wraiths and his one robo producing 1 observer at a time was to be pure countered by the wraiths. Bad play by Motive perfect execution by Light.
@Akihabarajin3 жыл бұрын
no gg
@PULAG Жыл бұрын
Those wraiths with the scans killing obs and carriers was pretty dope
@ddd99991 Жыл бұрын
That wraith play was beautiful
@erwinjohannarndt41663 жыл бұрын
SPEED PRISM, we SC2 now boys!
@KnightSynergy3 жыл бұрын
Light may be the most standard Terran player and one of the best to study, but he's been insanely inconsistent over the past year. I'd make a case that Rush is probably giving Light a run for 2nd best Terran, if not already surpassed. (Rush has long surpassed Sharp in performance, I think.)
@diegomora85792 жыл бұрын
hey man you called it exactly what happened in ASL, good eye
@whiteflash44442 жыл бұрын
wraiths always, it seems to me, to be the obvious counter to carriers. im baffled that people bother with goliaths instead of wraiths
@bobmoandfriend2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to figure this out too. Only thing I can come up with is that once the cat's out of the bag, 'toss can take more care to ensure that the carrier group is used as more of a supplement to the main army instead of its own little expansion strike force, and so the fact that the wraiths have to fly over 30 goons makes them too squishy to be effective anymore. I honestly wonder if that is where Motive err-ed here. If he'd have just kept his carriers mutually supported with dragoons and used them as air support for his gateway unit engagements with the mech, I think he could have massed more carriers and gotten way better results.
@thedojomk93532 жыл бұрын
It's easy to figure out. Terran will always need tanks to fight Protoss, so having to devout any more gas to build more starports, air upgrades, wraiths and wraith upgrades becomes very costly. Even if you manage to keep the wraith build up a secret and execute the attack on the carriers, you still have to contend with the protoss ground army, which unlike goliaths, wraiths can't do at all.
@seraphimconcordant Жыл бұрын
@@bobmoandfriend When the wraiths were first shown, he lost around 3 carriers to them. Pretty bad, but he then had 4 more carriers later on that were again picked off and this time without a trade. If he had just kept them around the cannons they would not have died so easily and he would have had storm to secure a push against Light's 3rd once again. He simply didn't see them and didn't micro, that was when his game was over.
@unblessedcoffee14573 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that we are seeing wraiths. I always thought they do huge damage and are super annoying for people. Yeah the laser is almost useless, but the missiles are devastating.
@Appletank82 жыл бұрын
Very true, but if Protoss doesn’t go heavy air they become almost useless.
@doltBmB Жыл бұрын
Saw him pick off a few templars, not a totally useless laser.
@user-gw6we1bd3e Жыл бұрын
I think that Dark Archons are greatly undervalued in PvT. With just 1 or 2 Dark Archons, Motive could've used Feedback to combat both the Wraiths but also the Science Vessels. I think that a "Dark Archon / Arbiter" combo could be very interesting against terran, since building Arbiters forces your terran opponent to build Science Vessels, and then you take them out with Feedback. Another interesting play with Dark Arcons, in mid to late game, would be to use the Mind Control ability to overtake 1 terran unit (such as a Vulture/Siege Tank/Goliath) being very close to other units and then having your opponents Siege Tanks, being in seige mode, automatically firing at your overtaken unit and thus causing splash damage to any nearby units.
@JoshuaFoy3 жыл бұрын
Dan you lied to me. You promised me on stream that you would never miss a day of casts. And then it happened..... My life is in shambles...
@kleomenis4563 жыл бұрын
GG. Artosis nice casts +1 Terran should have been repairing his wraiths better.
@detrockcity33 жыл бұрын
Pros only repair units occasionally. Usually in dire circumstances.
@kleomenis4563 жыл бұрын
@@detrockcity3 I repaired them back in the day when I got game sense.
@canag0d3 жыл бұрын
I love you tosis! I was your first (comment).
@invisiblemenproduction3 жыл бұрын
14:15 thank me later
@dj_koen1265Ай бұрын
Every two observers cost as much as a high templar So picking them off actually indirectly adds a lot of value and I enjoyed the wraiths seeing some action, quite an interesting game
@Ion-Luca-Caragiale5 ай бұрын
Wraith was my most favorite unit when I was a kid..
@thomasp3165 Жыл бұрын
12:00 "wraith are not really a counter for carrier"... uh yea they are..
@mayelonrajanathan96312 жыл бұрын
LOL how many carriers did he lose this game...
@philbalistreri495810 ай бұрын
Light makes Terran look so broken. What a boss
@BBrock71912 жыл бұрын
wait he liked eclipse? hahahah
@00Noontide9 ай бұрын
Ggs. Good wraiths.
@GerardoTGS Жыл бұрын
A
@yellow61003 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of this cast was when artosis said "FUCKING PROTOSS NOOB. WE HAVE FOUND THE WORST PRO PLAYER EVER. THIS IS DISGUSTING. ALL PROTOSS ARE TRASH."
@yusufc18262 жыл бұрын
I see so many unlucky reaver shots
@shartlover4203 жыл бұрын
light is such a scary player
@max_9552 жыл бұрын
RAGEQUIT
@farleydbear3 жыл бұрын
if there was like 3 observers spread out, i think motive wins hard