The Goliaths Are BACK -- Flash vs JaeDong, AGAIN!

[@Yoshirawr1]

Being sick of Flash games is like being allergic to air :(

[@Kingdemonpigfromhell]

"are you sick of Flash games", like 3 minutes before this video dropped I was scrolling the channel for more games, but had already watched all of the latest Flash games so hell no I'm not sick of them

[@brad20111]

Same 😂😂

[@vigilanterorschach2600]

Yeah, man. I am sick of the greatest e-sports player of all time for sure, like what is that question by Arty? How ould anyone mildly interested in SC be sick of Flash games?

[@nuclearicebreaker]

I know I'm almost as excited as if it was Jaedong and Stork

[@MrBaboon1212]

Jaedong is way better than flash ever was. Terran is easy newb race.

[@dhn1337]

Sick of these games? I've been hoping for these games for like the last 4-8 years. I don't even know how long it's been but it's felt so very long time.

[@charly.chavez]

We're sick for not having enough Flash games

[@robertonarheim5527]

Flash vs Jaedong is the reason to wake up in the morning!!

[@remusspanu5225]

Flash came back to a completely changed meta. And said "Neah dude... I don't like to play this way. Let me change things up a bit. How about a goliath build vs zergs?"

[@du_gall]

It’s classic since the first day of StarCraft.

[@phoenixlich]

Terran mech crushing Zerg is like a thirsty man in the desert finding an oasis!

[@eZeero]

You're goddamn right

[@HasteCakes]

Agree I love mech tvz

[@HasteCakes]

tesgai tho

[@nathanspeidel9195]

In chess people often talk about “the Magnus effect“ where the best players in the world often make more mistakes against Magnus Carlson because he has demonstrated such unstoppable dominance in the endgame that other players feel like they need to “do something“ in the early-mid game so they kind of stick their necks out and end up making mistakes they would normally never make. I really think flash might have the same effect on people. They know in the endgame he’s gonna be unstoppable, so they feel like they need to do something early so they make mistakes they wouldn’t normally make. Amazing to watch.

[@Antumanful]

Queen has talked about this during FlaSh's random run and FlaSh was against free when FlaSh randomed Terran. Queen said that you always have it on the back of your head that you "need a little more" until it comes to the point that you're cutting drones/probes too much for an advantage that won't amount to anything and FlaSh just wins.

[@jtypeproductions]

100% I think this is the case. You're spot on. Flash always seems to know how much his opponent has, and the best ways to exploit that - where possible. This game was a great example of that: Jaedong was very aggressive with his Mutas early on, and tried to dwindle the goliath (and tank) count, but Flash held on and knew exactly when he had enough to just roll across the map - before ultras, before dark swarm, before adrenal, etc. He hit such an ideal timing. There's no doubt that topl-level players go into matches against Flash, knowing that they have a limited window in which they can win.

[@Lightprayer]

​@@AntumanfulDon't think they knew he was Flash here but might be wrong

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Shouldve called it the Serral effect instead

[@Leonhart_93]

But do they usually know? This looks like a ladder game and his name is totally different. It's like a barcode.

[@Bres92]

MORE FLASH NEVER STOP NEVER APOLOGIZE

[@rockdrigo9326]

This channel can be Flash exclusive and I’d still watch tf out of it

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Channel renamed to FlashCasts, everybody rejoices.

[@rockdrigo9326]

@@SchemingGoldberg hell yea

[@qcdoomqc]

So far what im noticing about Flash is his game knowledge is absolutely flawless. He knows exactly when to setup defensively, when to push, when to sit for an economic advantage… like yeah you can tell he is trying stuff out and some of it doesn’t work but he seems like an absolute nightmare to play against… the type of player that always knows exactly where you’re at on economy and macro at any point of the game and always makes THE best move at any given time.

[@ObeliskM]

So he is Serral of Brood war.

[@lsdap1969]

well years of playing provided him with great game sense and his stunning use of comsats allows him to make all those spot on decisions is how i explain that to myself ;)

[@Hozzar]

He definitely doesn't mind making mistakes and testing out new tech.

[@skitidet4302]

@@ObeliskM More like stockfish.

[@theSato]

@@ObeliskM it's more like Serral is the Flash of SC2. Important distinction.

[@osrictemper4225]

Love that Artosis sits like 99% of the time in Flash's base, showing briefly what JaeDong is doing. Like him being some random ladder dude :D

[@AI_Ghostwriter]

You know on the old parts of the internet in the early 00's we used to meme about goliath+firebat being the ultimate tvz build and whenever someone would have a problem with the matchup we'd just post a picture of golbat from pokemon. It's pog to see a portion of the meme brought to life by the GOAT.

[@radattk3145]

mech isnt new

[@Lykyk]

​@@radattk3145 When did you last see pros play mass goliath against zerg as more than just a pocket-build, dweeb?

[@ashesofaranea]

a golbat picture is a unhinged response lmao

[@AI_Ghostwriter]

They were dark times my boys xdd

[@zhella1652]

Always "thank you for watching artosiscast", thank you for casting artosiscast

[@no1xtz765]

That 3-vulture run by is just so op…killer instinct

[@ce8539]

Yea that was like a laser precision knife, totally neutered him

[@stardawggunrocks5152]

it feels like it would have been even stronger had the surprise valk not been picked off - kill the whole muta flock on the next dive-in since Jaedong is so focused on reducing goliath count, then send the vultures when there is no defense. Worked out anyways, but the sub-branches of this build's decision tree we got to see from this game was so interesting. It really looks like it forces zerg to be the aggressor, if they don't you're just letting Terran cement a massive upgrade advantage and they can strike out with vultures at the edges, and if they queen switch Terran gets an all but certain timing window that takes advantage of the upgrades. I don't even play SCBW so I'm just guessing, ArtosisCasts finna get me to install though.

[@blakeshutt4310]

I don't even play brood war but your passion for the game is infectious. You make very entertaining videos, thanks

[@themanhands5599]

1:51 jaedong living up to his name, drawing shit on the minimap

[@mapro3948]

😀

[@fancypants6062]

raise your dongers

[@Reptilian.cricket]

We. Want. More. Flash. MOREEE

[@CypherBrood]

I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching Flash games with your commentary.

[@jtypeproductions]

If history is anything to go by - then this is a relatively rare period of time where Flash is still figuring things out in the meta. It feels like a huge privilege to be able to see it unfold (and have Artosis cast and break each game down), because - before long - Flash will likely get back to having 'solved' everything and be completely dominant once again. Of course, I'll never pass on Flash or Jaedong games anyway, but this feels like such a rare, unique time that won't last very long - and for those who are paying attention, it will be very very instructive.

[@VolkannGul]

Flash casually plays. Arto : I m getting chills right now.

[@davido.2932]

I love your Flash casts and your enthusiasm for them. Keep em coming and I'll keep watching.

[@Strider182]

As a student trying to learn SCBW/R, I was watching a lot of Flash’s replays from the past few days. He REALLY seems to like doing this Goliath build a lot. He seems to actually go +1 Vehicle Plating more often then not. So cool to see him using Mech so much against Zerg :o he even held a Hydra Bust with this build

[@Strider182]

I actually saw Flash preemptively go EMP in one of his Mech TvZs, but there was no queens when I think he was expecting to see them lol. It’s so fun seeing Flash experiment on the ladder!

[@plaginatordrive5977]

I love Goliaths. Like if I was a Goliath Man.

[@Kenshiken]

Hey, Artosis I'm absolutely not sick of Flash games and hope more to come! Don't even worry!

[@aovemu3072]

Never get sick of FLASH games... we've waited too long for this. DONT STOP

[@eecsbeanie]

artosis we can't get enough of this content

[@brutalchicken]

This is some fun stuff! For a while I thought these were older games from a decade ago

[@charliedesiles]

Very refreshing TvZ. Thank you for the cast!

[@sohkrazed]

It's fun watching Flash because I feel he's trying things and mapping out Terran more than anyone I've ever watched. A true leader figure

[@fancypants6062]

Wasn't fantasy talking about mech vs zerg a while back? Maybe we are finally seeing it come to fruition.

[@skeptic9991]

I will never be sick of Flash games, you shouldn't even feel guilty about it. I'm pretty sure most of us are fine with this channel just being Flash's road back to greatness. Don't stop until he wins another ASL.

[@eskelsen11738]

Holy moly, never seen mech Terran beat Zerg like this before Thanks for the covering flash, this has me very hyped for the next ASL

[@immortanjoe9362]

Keep them comin Artosis.

[@DarkLeviathan8]

No im not sick of flash games its the literal reason I chekc this channel every day for the past week

[@sleepypanda27]

Not tired of Flash games! In fact I will be sad if there isn't more, we are in a unique time and its super interesting. Plus you're obviously excited about it and that makes the content a lot more enjoyable!

[@GASHPAN]

We are NOT sick of Flash games. We want more. More analysis. More Flash. Flash in beast mode. Was I the only one watching the top left of the screen at those upgrade timings?! GG!

[@wraith_wr]

We are not sick. We need more. I hope Flash goes for the next ASL.

[@starcraft2own]

Thank you for providing me with my daily Jaedong fix. Flash really treating us good by having Jaedong have to play high leveled games!

[@davdav1370]

No, we are not sick of Flash games, specially when it's vs JD.

[@theSato]

I am a little sad to see JD nowhere near his prime lately.. Flash too but thats expected he's in the derust phase after military still.. I really want to see peak, prime time Flash vs JD again

[@davdav1370]

@@theSato I agree, he seems to put himself into good position, and then simply throws it away

[@andrerossel8394]

Flash timing was just beautiful. Just the perfect combination of having a huge army with the queen's still not ready. And with so many Goliaths I not sure if jaedong could just sit and use the broodlings on tanks without losing the queens

[@Distrax-777]

If this was an exclusively flash games channel I’m pretty sure no one would complain. Except for the people who complain no matter what.

[@quaco24]

I mean, as long as he mixes in games where Flash plays protoss, so that we could have some PvZ's as well. Never having a PvZ would be a bit crap.

[@nicholasj7388]

I will always click on a Flash game that Artosis casts.

[@itchytf]

I am not sick of Flash games. Keep them coming!

[@supersquare04]

Hey artosis, thanks for the cast! You mentioned talking about how flash returned from sc2 and solved arbiter, could you go into more detail regarding that? I'm curious what he changed!

[@pandemic-mi8ib]

Bro, never going to be tired of flash games

[@aelussa4970]

I have a fever, and the only cure, is more Flash games

[@liamgenter1584]

No apologies necessary, I support the transition to a full-time Flash casting channel

[@Whiterabbit124]

I will watch every single Flash vs Jaedong game you will ever cast.

[@Scrambles2112]

Hey RT, we like when you call the channel "artosisCastsFlash" not just artosis casts. Jfyi

[@Cernunn0s90]

100% not sick of Flash games. Keep em coming!

[@pierrephilip1682]

never sick at flash vs jaedong games, any day of the week they're welcomed!

[@nesssixteen6106]

Definitely NOT tired of Flash. His games are such a fresh take from the traditional meta builds we usually see.

[@mickcraftgaming]

This game is fantastic. So glad to have more Flash innovation!

[@ivantodorov9136]

"Are you sick of Flash games?", don't you ever dare say this again!

[@viTaDBaD]

I see Jaedong took the strategy of Protoss (A move into a heavily defended base to throw). Bold move.

[@lucasbertolini4896]

2:43 TIGHT, TIGHT TIGHT! Tuco would approve that wall.

[@lukaszepesi]

I'm never gonna be sick of Flash games.

[@umeltheone]

We are never sick of Flash games.

[@sebastianrohl3801]

i will never be sick of flash

[@nathanspeidel9195]

I could watch Flash all YEAR! Good god he makes it look so easy…

[@Blueterran5]

RT I don't think we'll ever be sick of watching Flash. More Flash = More Views

[@FlymanMS]

Flash is crushing his opponent like no one else.

[@tohothewriter8002]

Flash was expanding while pushing JD's natural. There was a group of hydras that killed the CC, but it made no difference given how far behind zerg was after the three vultures massacred the third's entire mineral line with impunity. No static defense will get your economy killed when vultures are in play. And mech is pretty vulture heavy. 🤪 Love these Flash replays! 🥰

[@thefierycharmeleon164]

Hey Arty, could you show me some games around 2016, 2015 and 2014 before Flash came back to brood war from Sc2 back then. Would love to see how it was back then, as it sounds interesing seeing how the meta was back then (And just to see if the arbiters being broken thing is true back then)

[@chongli297]

More Flash! More Flash! More Flash! Just keep 'em comin' RT! Absolutely love watching the Roger Federer of StarCraft!

[@math925]

Seeing that siege line at the end just gave me patriotic chills. God bless Terra, the UED, and Emperor Mengsk!

[@dewinmoonl]

JD stubbornly refuse to make static D and losing all the drones is a tale as old as time

[@jonathaniszorro]

If there is ever a Flash vs Jaedong game that you don’t cast, that’s when we’ll get upset

[@Ghumieable]

I hope I find to love as much as Artosis loves Flash:

[@AlexanderEddy]

I'll never get sick of watching Flash

[@ryankim345]

sorry im a noob but how did flash solve arbiter? what did he bring that was completely new?

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Flash is optimizing his builds more and more, and won't stop until they're perfect.

[@montanac223344]

How was arbiter wrecking prior to his first comeback and what did he change in the meta to shut it down?

[@Shield_Battery]

Intro music for channel changes to Queen.

[@MasterRoshi8974]

What a beautiful game... RT when i watch your stream (AYAYA) I feel your Goliath builds do you good. Do you agree or am I just another guy in the chat.

[@JonasStenmarkMT]

Farm those Flash games! We know you want to and you know we want to!

[@MJ.Actual]

Haha I too have to make sure builds are ready to 4 pools due to Latency!!

[@lu9680]

More flash! More artosis!

[@seankrolyk5814]

If flash amd JD had a best of 100 I'd be pissed if you cast less than 99 of them. Keep em coming Arty!!!

[@Jamesgalc-gs8wu]

Imagine Michael Jordan came back after he retired the second time, only he was with the bulls and still the best.

[@Rexiled]

Hi, i'm interested regarding what Artosis said in the begining regarding Flash Destroying the arbiter Meta when he came back from Sc2 to Sc1 If anyone can spare some information or video, i'm willing to listen\watch. Thank you very much in advance. Personal background: i'm watching artosis for a few months and always loved the way he speaks regarding the Meta in Sc1, very concise, profesionnal, i can only think of Day9 if i could compare. I regularly play Sc2, Metagame is something that interest me alot, but especially in starcraft 1 where... well... THERE WAS NO PATCH FOR 20Years, and the game is "always" changing. Of course there are moment where it stagnate... until someone firgure out something.

[@radattk3145]

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[@radattk3145]

hi reddit

[@soupnatzi2640]

Not sure why JD didnt make alot more lings around 6-7 min mark

[@TheFixer-rq9tj]

That was fucking beautiful. The timing. 1 minute later and the outcome could have been different.

[@topshothotshot666]

Arty... These replays you commentate on are one of the best parts of each day. Thank you sir. 🫡

[@Flogger72]

for so many years Jaedong has suffered from a low number of drones in so many games. Make drones!

[@Orb370]

Keep the Flash games coming!

[@leqeque7383]

Flash has that MC energy fr

[@Fleye00]

Comparing Flash to MC?

[@leqeque7383]

​@@Fleye00Mc of SC:BW for sure yes

[@lsdap1969]

you mean MC has some of flashes energy?

[@iLoveAmuroNamie]

comparing mc to flash is blasphemy.. mc was a b teamer in sc bw as well

[@leqeque7383]

@@iLoveAmuroNamie mate you do understand that MC stands for "main character" and not MC the player, right?

[@somecooney5304]

Say goodbye to the days of Terran's monochromatic approach to unit production. Terran's DEI, lol.

[@ericomfg]

LOL great opening, gave me chills

[@razo198]

news Flash: more Flash news gameplay

[@pierQRzt180]

Would be nice to not only have such historical tidbits in casts, but in episodes alone. Like "starcraft history" in parts, each of 1-3 year periods where the players and their performances (and the meta) could be explained. This is something is missing a lot in esports based on long standing games. The history is missing.

[@SM-nz9ff]

Cast Flash anytime you can same with Jae. StarCraft is 25+ years old and we only have so much time left with our legends man so keep them coming.

[@iqless7313]

The hydras lost a lot of time killing the mines to help the mutas. So it was like the mutas went in, got destroyed, and then the hydras went in and got destroyed

[@chaddunn6334]

I am just posting this so I can say I said it later. The new meta in TvZ will be Goliath Tank with Vulture/mine support replacing tanks and vultures with science vessels and or wraiths in later games until Zerg learns to counter with ultras in mid game.

[@troyfiss9332]

"Are you sick of Flash games?" Nope.

[@CultOfMonika]

Brother! I require more Flash games

[@FOmar151]

tbh I'd be mad if I found out artosis DIDN'T cast a flash vs jaedong game

[@monsieurpanda4451]

Hm, so no more bio meta for terran against Zerg ?

[@Larsgman]

Going mech against zerg to me has always been tricky, because from my experience zerg would always ling rush, and i would always have a hard time defending against that

[@lifenote1943]

We need at least like 50 more flash games