ARTPOP: What Happened?

[@enigma8897]

I was in tears half way through this video. I have so many memories with this album and you really did give this album the justice it deserves. Can't wait for the stream on Friday.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Thank you sm! I’m glad I was able to memorialize this bygone era. We really took it for granted!

[@flippineck2825]

ARTPOP deserves a 10-year-anniversary re-release celebration in 2023. The album was incredibly smart if you read greek mythology. But breaking from her manager was the reason it went to shit.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I want a nice new vinyl print with some sleeve art from the photoshoot outtakes, maybe some B-Sides from Act II that never got released, and it’d be cool to have a lil livestream or some sort of small event for lil monsters. The managerial split and the era falling apart were blessings in many ways: ASIB, winning back the public bc of the comeback narrative and Chromatica doing as well as it could in COVID times... but I do wonder what would have happened if Artpop had smashed.

[@as.dexter]

@@EljohnMacaranas that's the sad thing about artpop underperforming i feel like if every vision they had was a success Gaga would still be this unconventional icon who had the audacity and fire to break barriers! I mean I'm still happy with Joanne and her public personality change after it but I really want to live on an alternate reality where Gaga was still this bold and crazy unbothered popstar.

[@Omfgitsrene]

Gaga Daily is already planning a listening party

[@Itstilbert]

I Hope She Releases ARTPOP Act 2 On The 10th Year Anniversary Of ARTPOP

[@as.dexter]

Only if the Artpop era had gone the way Gaga wanted, it’d have been a total success. The single choices are infuriating. I still wish to this day we got a music video for Aura it would've been so iconic. But I'm so happy how Artpop is being so appreciated these days.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Aura deserved the world and got nothing!

[@nickwillon528]

Gypsy NEEDED a mv. It would have gained +2B views I’m sure

[@khalilkhan051797]

Well she did the GUY artpop film and it didn’t do too well. It’s all her management telling her what singles to choose and controlling the direction of the album. Aura is my favorite song from any artist EVER! I feel like I’m on adrenaline!

[@fulsman230]

@@khalilkhan051797 I feel something similar with Swine, it's just so wild and powerful

[@delicious1525]

I was gonna say MANiCURE is underrated.. then I was gonna say Venus is underrated.. then I wa- ARTPOP is underrated, I love everything about it.

[@jiangjino1204]

You could talk about Artpop for hours on end and I would still listen. This is, so far, my favorite record from Gaga. This album may not have been a commercial success, but it paved the way to new, avant garde, experimental songs; a pioneer to the future of pop music. This album is such an inspiration on what music I want to create in the future.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Yes! I loved talking about it and listening to it and just experiencing it again. I didn’t appreciate it back then but I came back into it enlightened.

[@gageboyadvanceSP]

Literally at the end of paparazzi “We love her again!” Is shown... Chromatica 2020:WE LOVE HER AGAIN

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Literally she’s a psychic, ahead of us all always!

[@emilavetisyan8148]

Hate how cheap chromatica is

[@jungkookiekutter657]

Omg you’re right everything on the newspaper shown at paparazzi is happening lmaoo

[@Yumerifter]

@@emilavetisyan8148 i love gaga so i hope i dont get hate for this but i honestly expected way more for chromatica. not sure if it was because of the pandemic, but her music videos were lacking and the production of the album isnt as good as tfm or btw

[@JuanGarcia-py4qe]

now that ARTPOP is being praised again and that gaga is acknowledging the album again makes it scarier, "we love her again!" may symbolize the way people are praising artpop years later when everyone left her alone at that era

[@brookarry1407]

it’s my second favourite album by gaga! artpop was so ahead of it’s time and honestly would easily fit into the pc music scene today

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Ugh a real PC album from her and Petga visuals... I’d cry!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I finally did it. It took forever but I did it!

[@appleclaws9653]

Seeing all the potential Artpop had, I knew the split was messy but I didn't know the details of it, and Having it layed out like that, I really feel even more for Gaga, losing a friend and then having the world go against her. But with Chromatica, It will be like Artpop but with the confidence and knowledge she now has. So excited so this New Era this is coming in just a few days!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

The label has real confidence if the pre-COVID plans she said she was gonna do were real!

[@Catherine04647]

If feel like with the Y2K aesthetic coming to light Gaga could really make art pop act two with furthered themes of Greek mythology and surrounding themes. It’s a very unique album and really deserves more attention.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

An Artpop Act II that really leans into Y2K would be successful, especially with Gen Z’s familiarity with hyperpop and alt sounds.

[@russty7569]

“Brooklyn Nights” is truly one of the best songs. It struck me like how “Just Dance” and “Poker Face” did before I was a fan of Gaga.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

It deserves a proper streaming release. It’s a classic song.

[@ellagreen5118]

There were several companies that worked on Gaga’s team and on the app as well as being involved in behind the scenes that were in Gaga’s name but Troy carter was managing them. Part of the breakdown was while Gaga was finishing the album, a company with her name on it was sold by Troy without her knowledge. I don’t know more details but I remember her saying so in an interview. The initial promo schedule was scrapped because the label backed out once there wasn’t agreement between Gaga and Troy. He was a great manager but Gaga was just coming out of her hip injury and I think he pushed her too hard and wanted something too commercial for what she was actually creating.

[@dillonmovement]

And here we are today 7 years later and the album is charting #1 in so many countries thank you for this video 💓

[@EljohnMacaranas]

We did it queen! Shidiskdks

[@Yugvijay]

✌️😊♥️

[@xzzedwardzzx1296]

Artpop really was ahead of its time. It was very rebellious. She didn’t stick to one look or one sound and there was no underlying theme to the era, she went with every look and every sound and at that time pop culture, specifically pop albums, were very formulaic, and when you broke that formula, not everyone agreed with it. That was the “issue” with Artpop, it didn’t follow the same formula pop albums “needed” to have during that time, and that’s why it caused such a divide between fans and critics.

[@jstal3670]

everyone hated jewels n drugs but it’s one of my favorites

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Deserved more praise! I think ppl were salty we got it instead of Azalea collab

[@Diego-gg1rc]

Yeah everytime I listen to it I feel deaf because I actually love the song even if everyone hates it

[@FaizLangsang]

Artpop was the best. People are just too deaf

[@megasigmagaming]

the whole album sounds like what a gorgeous yet abstract painting would sound like and I love it

[@thisisme9898]

i hope that she never has this happen to her again, especially with managers betraying and leaving her. we all know that artpop deserved so much more than what we received from it. it was very ahead of it's time and i hope that her future albums will be more successful and perfected in the way she wants them to be. i also hope for more singles and videos.

[@thisisme9898]

...I want her to be happy most importantly! 💖

[@evolved1665]

I don't think it will ever happen again. She toned down her perfectionism and I don't think she really cares all that much anymore.

[@thisisme9898]

@@evolved1665 yeah 😢 I am starting to increasingly realize that more and more now, even though I am still a fan. I still love her and she will always be one of my strongest inspirations whether it's music, fashion or art, but she isn't the same anymore. I wish she wasn't afraid to do what she used to love like during the ARTPOP era, not trying too hard to be toned down and conforming herself to what I ultimately fear... Lady Gaga becoming normal and bland. Or even becoming what Madonna is now but in the future. I like Madonna, but she is an example of trying too hard and trying anything to stay relevant.

[@Rambl3On]

Artpop is my favorite Gaga era! Nothing else like it!

[@geraldmccray3301]

this is my favorite gaga album😭

[@franky2347]

Thank you for bringing justice to ARTPOP. It’s my favorite album and I think if she had it her way it would’ve still made an impact for those who could appreciate the era for what it was - a tribute to pop and avant-garde art.

[@iamixmael]

She recently shared in GAGARADIO that Sexxx Dreams was her initial choice for the Lead Single. When the label heard Applause, they chose it as the lead instead. The Burqa demo leaked was proven to be leaked by her. It was an intentional tease to hype the album, but she seemed bias when it got radio/club play ahead of its official release. Although there’s much speculation on why her relationship with her previous manager fell apart, there were in fact shared stories that there was money involved. She had already dealt with a lawsuit related to the subject as well. This downfall started during the run on the BTW era when her then choreographer left her team. Many important figures left her team little by little, only the ones who understood her vision stayed. ARTPOP was ahead of its time and many things went against it. Still, it was a Gaga finest. The album itself shares a cohesive story when listened attentively.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

It truly is a shame to lose long-time collaborators (and friends) especially if money is the root cause. Sexxx Dreams would have been a daring first single (not sure if it’d smash the charts though.)

[@landonmillwood180]

@@EljohnMacaranas Also, it would have been the 1st single so we would have had a demo version on the album!

[@oweeen1584]

I may be wrong about this, but I think I remember hearing somewhere how Lady Gaga wanted all of the songs on the album to be singles. That would have been so interesting if we could have had all of them become singles

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I feel like that honestly would have been a groundbreaking strategy! Though whether or not Interscope was ready to devote enough resources to each one would be quite the challenge. I wish she’d been allowed to have done a full-length music film for it!

[@F27_2]

that was born this way but after marry the night didn't do that well it was scraped

[@arishinn]

I know that Lady Gaga wanted Born This Way to have 10 Singles but her Manager or Producers didn't want to do it cause I dont know

[@chamame9723]

i’ve never heard that but what i do know for sure it’s that she said that all the songs would have a music video and then ir never happened

[@s.a.morales]

I love how the album cover is literally a merge of modern and classic art, The Birth Of Venus and the statue of Apollo and Daphne as the backgroup with her figure by Jeff Koons is so soothing to the eyes

[@maleekmonroe1]

Artpop has the most songs I still play regularly in my daily playlist . Wish we got act two . Wish it got more love

[@joeythetriplecthiccccat7213]

This album is one of my favorites of Gaga, and is so sad that ARTPOP didn’t get the attention it need, in my opinion. Also I hope that her sexuality or views on LGBTQ+ didn’t effect that, which sadly, back then, it did. All in all, we need a ARTPOP Act ll.

[@tomm1497]

The fact that Applause and the Yu-Gi-Oh soundtrack was made by the same man is blowing my mind

[@guscandes]

this would've been so great, but I'm hoping Chromatica will hit

[@ThePMMpc]

i need part 2 for this video and it's needs to be 3 hours long

[@EljohnMacaranas]

When she finally addresses it again bett

[@xelarosie]

Finally! Been waiting for this. Artpop memories 💔

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I legit had to like stop editing it at times bc I remember watching it all unfold and getting anon hate on Tumblr for being a stan.

[@karinhonaker4236]

Dope is so beautiful

[@crackheadspeedway6788]

My absolute favorite Gaga album and one of my favorite albums overall, I hope Chromatica will do what this album intended to. *subscribed*

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Chromatica will do it! I believe! Thank you for the sub!

[@user-pi9um1hx8y]

@Charli BabyExcuse my language but it's good shut up

[@user-pi9um1hx8y]

@Charli Baby yeah :(

[@nitetimerxdio2762]

I love this crazy album, it stands alone.

[@SuperpowerBroadcasting]

Good review. Artpop is probably my second favourite Gaga album. It's my most played album for sure

[@EljohnMacaranas]

It's so underrated even though it's finally getting the love it's needed for years.

[@SuperpowerBroadcasting]

@@EljohnMacaranas Venus is a banger

[@parentalonion6552]

Man, ARTPOP was my childhood.

[@berrryypie]

Swine is amazing. You can't change my mind.

[@JhonnatanSalazarGomez-cq4ur]

Absolutely incredible!! Really enjoyed listening to this and revisiting the era of Artpop - the album that got me into Gaga. Fantastic analysis overall!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Thanks for listening! I genuinely had the most fun making the video! I'm excited to do a proper video essay for Chromatica later next month!

[@Maryan_002]

I can’t stop listening to ARTPOP now

[@MIKEY-ly5ws]

same its so good

[@tubbywestaway]

I LOVE that album...Every SONG. It's FANTASTIC!!!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

deserved WAY better than what it got!

[@calebshelley4831]

There are two things I think about more than I should from armchair perspective: 1) I wish SO hard she collaborated w PC Music for artpop (AG Cook, SOPHIE, etc). 2) Heavy Metal Lover should’ve been second single for BTW in place of Judas. I’m delulu but that’s my notes lol.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

PC Music was in the air at some point for Chromatica but honestly happened a bit too late due to ASIB which did so much lifting for her tbh Omg yeah Judas had an iconic music video and was so wild to drop around easter but did also damage her reputation amongst general public sadly

[@creamofsumyungai439]

Artpop is definitely my favorite album of hers. I never understood why it didn't do as well and that's why I'm watching this, but I think anyone who truly loves her work should love this. Regardless of the criticism she caught from collaborating with R. Kelly, that's probably my favorite song of hers. It's just crazy that you can't do anything without someone having something to say about it. I love all of Gaga's work with my only 2 critiques being that on 'Paper Gangster' the vocal production sounds garbled and attempts to make her sound like a different artist completely. And on 'Eh eh Nothing else I can say' she rhymes funny with funny. Which is forgivable. But people are always looking for something. Even her fans, which surprises me. I think she has done a good job of breaking out of the 'pop bubble' but also helping her fans do the same. By releasing not one but two jazz albums. Collaborating with artists like Beck and Josh Homme. Turning on listeners to other sounds. I think Miley Cyrus is also doing that with her fans. It's definitely courageous and I applaud them both.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Gaga is the perfect medium between keeping fans happy while challenging them and others. I genuinely think that’s her staying power as an artists. Her peers constantly either try too hard to make fans happy they end up stale or weird to the GP or try to stay relevant but end up pleasing no one. Seeing all the belated love for Artpop and seeing people who dislike Chromatica buy ball tickets… literal legend. Miley too, but I’d say Miley’s even more extreme. Dead Pets would have killed anyone else’s career but she’s still standing.

[@FelixSanFrancisco]

Great video. I’m surprised you did not mention the Muppet special she did during the Artpop cycle. It was my first definite sign that something was up with Gaga - aside from the Dope performance, which I still had not seen at the time. Gaga hits all the marks on the special, but just seems really distracted in general. It would be interesting to know where the taping of the special fit in on this timeline.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Oh, I recall that special. I do believe that was a holdover from Troy Carter’s old Artpop promo schedule which admittedly was unhealthily ambitious. Broadcast companies like Disney don’t take kindly to changed plans and Gaga’s incoming management likely saw this was smart way to rehab her image and get some families interested in the less avant-garde parts of the album.

[@Rambl3On]

I really enjoyed your talk about this album!

[@LinhHueTran]

I LOVE This album. Donatella, Sex Dreams, FASHION!!! LOVE THIS ALBUM

[@noahjackson2]

OMG I JUST NOTICED OUR GENERATION will witness CHROMATICA 10TH and 25TH anniversary 😭😭😭😭

[@crackheadspeedway6788]

And it’s aged like milk already

[@thegcl6787]

@@crackheadspeedway6788 your mind: 🤒

[@shakiradair4890]

I feel like people are treating chromatica like ARTPOP in my opinion.

[@noahjackson2]

@@shakiradair4890 for reals

[@Itstilbert]

As An ARTPOP Stan ARTPOP Deserves Better

[@randomwatcher8911]

Found a new channel that can entertain me with every video! A new fan

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Thank you!

[@Pragyatiwari904]

Lol remember when she tweeted I don't remember artpop

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Literally that was one of the saddest days in American history.

[@JG_Vietnam]

I really fall for Applause, Aura and Venus, my three most favourite tracks.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Oh those tracks (and the album tbh now that it’s been nearly 10 years) are classics

[@ismailmahmood8483]

Your voice is so relaxing 😌

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Thanks! I run a secret ASMR twitch channel lmao

[@imadrianpadilla]

Can u do the a star is born era and how it helped gaga? thanks

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I will but not it time for Chromatica sadly!

[@imadrianpadilla]

@@EljohnMacaranas please do a chromatica reaction omg

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

I absolutely love ARTPOP but I'm kinda glad Mary Jane Holland was chosen over Brooklyn Nights. MJH is my absolute favourite song of all time Edit: I personally think Brooklyn nights should've replaced Jewels n Drugs

[@richga_official]

we got a music video for Venus ..........it just was only 30 sec long

[@Max-uu6rv]

what?

[@ET-oq7gt]

@@Max-uu6rv in the artpop film there was a small segment of Venus played

[@jstal3670]

that made me so mad

[@thisisacomment.]

pardon me for asking but when you're done talking about gaga's albums, can you by any chance do the same thing but with Britney spears's records?

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Oh def! I love her sm!

[@devanteedwardsss]

Do What U Want and Venus are still my favourite songs i can't lie.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Great picks! Some of her best pop tbh!

[@Rolafairy]

Daaaamn boy! I know you said this video was going to be longer but I didn’t expect this to be this long. I love it!!! 💕

[@EljohnMacaranas]

11 mins just to cover behind the scenes drama, bc context matters!

[@Rolafairy]

Eljohn Macaranas Agreed! The manager split is important to understand why there was so much messiness and why the high expectations were not met. Thanks for going in depth on that. 👏👏👏

[@iamfragr4676]

Art pop should be the biggest history of not just her life but the biggest history on music industry but the tables have turned

[@jaysityisking]

CAKE by Lady Gaga will always be one of my favorites that was scrapped

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

Ye that one is cool I agree but have you heard Stache? It's such a bop

[@towy9654]

Gypsy really has “end of album”/album closer vibes

[@EljohnMacaranas]

It definitely should have closed the record. Applause sorta makes sense too but the more I think about it, the better that song would have served as a closer.

[@ebsssizzle4730]

Fashion should have been a single !!! And we should have got an insanely camp music video for it

[@unruhigematerialflut]

thank you! Today marks the day, when Gaga tweeted about Artpop again, after it went #1 in several countries iTunes Charts. #ARTPOP is a very modern mindset! An idea! A spirit!

[@pyapyaye]

Gaga is of no doubt smart and talented.

[@Cronelife_]

Thank you for this. The fact interscope left off temple is INSANE. That song is magical…. Unsure why it’s called hallelujah . Im sorry but it is Troys fault he abandoned her

[@ivanmayet7879]

ARTPOP FOREVER :3

[@karinhonaker4236]

When I was 2nd grade this album came out. Wow im getting older

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Man u got me feeling ancient rn lmao

[@karinhonaker4236]

@@EljohnMacaranas oh sorry didn't mean to do that lol😅 i hope you have a wonderful night

[@landonmillwood180]

I feel you! I was 7 in Fall 2013.

[@CriativesTier]

@@karinhonaker4236 I was in third grade when The Fame dropped ....

[@ПростоКошка-д3л]

I was 20 lol

[@Peterrdee]

I won’t forgive Troy for rushing her and not caring for her artistry!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I understand where he’s coming from a managerial standpoint. I believe Gaga was a little too ambitious in 2013 and overestimated the general public’s ability to understand and love Artpop. They seemed to be quite good friends before 2013, he was flexible with the Born This Way era and let her do her thing before. So it’s sad that they couldn’t compromise and the era fell apart leaving no one but hardcore fans happy. It’s a true shame.

[@Peterrdee]

Funny how if she did artpop now she could have much more freedom and probably drop whatever she wanted, I’m glad she has Bobby now even with ctc he gave her freedom to do whatever and drop whatever

[@EljohnMacaranas]

@@Peterrdee the only way she earned that freedom back was Joanne and ASIB... Artpop needed to tank for her to get to where she is now.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Cover made by iconic jamescjm! Follow him! twitter.com/jamescjm

[@Yugvijay]

Justice for artpop

[@iwrotethis]

This was one album i preordered and loved when it came out. I was very surprised when i found it was not more celebrated at the time. I loved The Fame Monster deluxe CD but only liked Judas, Scheiße, and Bloody Mary off her 2nd album. I love almost every song off Artpop. But i have not liked any of her music since...

[@domenicortiz8147]

ARTPOP 2023

[@WCD199317]

This album was a very good album and underated. A relief, because i was so dissapointed by the ''Born this Way'' album. My favorites of this album was ''Venus'', ''Do What U Want'' (the Christina Aguilera version) ''Fashion'' (a fire bomb) and ''Dope'', the last was so much emotional. This album, like ''The Fame'' was timeless and very good and proof, it's was a good pleasure for the non fans of Lady Gaga like me. And i remember to the radios refused to playing in Canada ''Do What U Want'', because of the presence of ''R Kelly'' and received limited radio diffusions. It's was more after she released the version with Christina who i heard this song in the first time and was contribue of the impact of this song. The lyrics who Christina singing was originally the lyrics has Lady wanted of this song (a introspection of her injury in debut of year of 2013, who she canceled her last concerts of her ''Born This Way Tour'') before R. Kelly work in the song and made her song hugely sexual. I not like so much this version. She planned a music video, but because the video was so much sexual and also how R. Kelly and the director of the music video Terry Richardson faced with sexual abuse, the video was canceled. And she dropped this song in 2019 in the album after the released of the R. Kelly documentary ''Surviving R. Kelly'', who the victims of him talk about the manipulation lars he used for abused youngs womans and young boys also. The version with Christina continued to diffused in a single version in streaming. Christina was more appropriate about the context of this song (because she grew up with violence of her father, until six years old, who she have very limited contact with her father after the divorce) and how the abuse of her father affect so much her.

[@jordie9360]

It was Roman themed as Venus is the Roman goddess of love

[@hyperballadbradx6486]

Messy era, but a very good album. A ridiculous amount of energy. Her ego was through the roof however, and this eventual implosion can be seen in the '5ft2' docu, and culminate in the healing power of Music through Chromatica.

[@BlueDragonArt]

The Gaga of Dada ;) (Well, I could see her appreciating Dada XD) This is my favorite Gaga album...but that's probably just because I think I'm a artist XD) Edit: Also, Gaga makes Pop smart again. Some of the Beatles' poppier songs were still full of things that inspired them, not just silly love songs. Love this album).

[@EltedyBnguapo]

There's a reason why to this day whenever a new caotic, noisy and amazing album comes out it's called the new Artpop (Sawayama, Charli, Motomami)

[@EljohnMacaranas]

So true! Iconic record.

[@lydiagraves5073]

artpop is my favorite album ever.

[@smash5551]

Of course you have to bring up Brooklyn nights

[@austin50006]

Se+ dreams is written about a dancer that amused to have dreams about lady Gaga at night!! He was also gay

[@EljohnMacaranas]

That’s insane, her mind!

[@1992padron]

This is my favorite Gaga era!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Taste!

[@evolved1665]

Ik she did not pick MJH over Brooklyn Nights...

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I like both but Mother should have had Brooklyn Nights 😭

[@fulsman230]

ARTPOP is my favorite album of Gaga ❤️

[@Jawonsito]

Uhhhh… Donatella pays homage to Donatella Versace.

[@AngelBridgeford]

8:00 💀

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I really love that photo sm (and may have bought my copy in 2013 at an H&M )

[@callumrichards9959]

Wait is Donatella not about donatella versace

[@hjhngjvnbh]

It is

[@vxmpirevibes6270]

I agree with everything in this video. Gaga had a vision that didn’t have the commercial value and wasn’t fit for that time. I definitely think the main cause for the album flipping was the split between Gaga and her manager. If that split didn’t happen then the album would have been more complete and have more commercial value.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Not to like defend Troy (because the schedule he set for Gaga was ambitious and a little crazy) but I think management really is overlooked by stans. It’s these people’s jobs to take the artist’s vision and make it commercial. Even industry giants like Taylor and Beyonce (and Gaga ofc) have a team to take their ideas and make it something sellable. Gaga misplaced her faith in the public to “get” Artpop but I think with some additional work and time and cleaner messaging, she could have really sold it. Regardless, I like it for what it is and am glad there was justice for it even if we’re a little late.

[@vxmpirevibes6270]

@@EljohnMacaranas Exactly!

[@rucals]

fave album from her omg :(

[@kierra05]

I feel like ArtPop was Gaga’s Erotica by Madonna if that makes sense? It flopped massively with the public and deserved so much better!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I'd say that's about right. Erotica was polarizing because it was avant garde much like Artpop was in the year 2013.

[@kierra05]

@@EljohnMacaranas Totally! Are you a fan of Madge?

[@MichaelChong100]

Yep, I agree that R Kelly’s version is not good. His lyrics doesn’t even fit the theme of the song (body image issues) and I hated that it got released as a single instead of Venus. As for Christina Aguilera duet version, it’s better than the original and it should be put it in the album re-release and streaming!!!

[@EljohnMacaranas]

I hate R Kelly's version so much like back when the album dropped I knew it was going to age BAD. Venus was Gaga's choice for the single but because Applause didn't smash as hard as they thought it would, they changed it up at the last minute to chase what was selling the most on iTunes. It was derailed by her team and her chasing what clicked instead of sticking to the vision from day 1.

[@filipmarinkovic6281]

Jewels 'n Drugs is too overhated and underrated, it's not one of my favs on the album but it's far from her worst c'mon... the PRODUCTION is SICK, i just think 4 artists is a bit too much.... Also there are some parts of DWUW MV on YT and let's just say that the newspaper dress and scene could've been one of her most iconic looks EVER.

[@TerracottaPie1987]

Fwiw I'm not really a Gaga fan (more into rock and metal) and Artpop is far and away my favorite album of hers.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Oh it’s the last album she’s truly taken artistic risks. Chromatica could have come close if she stayed true to the demos that have leaked but alas…

[@bladynw]

while do what u want with christina is something everyone should listen too, every gaga fan should listen to the r kelly version at one point

[@VoyageOne1]

ARTPOP was doomed to fail for a multitude of reasons. The BTW era was very front-loaded, people were growing tired of her shenanigans (Alejandro video, the meat dress, Born This Way) and were prepared to invent reasons to cancel her (the trans rumours, fat shaming). The album was recorded in 2012 during the crest of the electro/dance pop craze - by 2013 people were starting to grow tired of every pop song being exclusively baked in that template. Then she broke her hip on the BTW Ball, Troy left her and went dark for months. It was a total shit show

[@pipsqueak677]

this album was just released at a competitive time... Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus were at their peaks. Along with massive hits like Blurred Lines around. ARTPOP could have been a smash hit if it was released a little later in 2014

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Uh, 2014 would have been suicidal with 1989 and parts of the My Everything era.

[@ircalen3277]

@@EljohnMacaranas True.

[@wynignatius9289]

it wasnt Gaga's fault, it's INTERSCOPE.

[@EljohnMacaranas]

It was a mix of everyone tbh: I always felt like Gaga overpromised this era, Troy Carter set up an ambitious schedule that clashed with Gaga’s vision, and Interscope seeing the chaos unfold pulled a lot of plugs after the managerial split. Interscope is actually very kind to Gaga. They repeatedly made efforts to let her do things her way both very early on and recently. They value her as an artist even allegedly sending her a horse as a gift for resigning to the label when her options expired. Interscope is likely the best label for her, I don’t see her thriving on Atlantic. Capitol is a disaster with Katy rn.

[@wynignatius9289]

@@EljohnMacaranas interscope and capitol handles some of the best artists in the world, but it has the same fair share of mishaps (mistreatments,not getting promos etc) and btw Katy perry will release her upcoming album SMILE and i hope her latest one wouldnt be a flop, just like WITNESS (no hate on it) and deserve to have decent promotions. Back to Gaga, well she did great with Chromatica bc since were on a verge of pandemic, her new material is really non-skippable. Plus, her concept was worth refreshing. hope for Chromatica to be the best era

[@wynignatius9289]

btw ARTPOP is so ahead of its time and such a sleeper hit record.

[@bluntasiaalize1688]

artpop is brilliant & if it came out today, I truly believe it would have done way better

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Oh for sure, a bunch of people show their love for the record and I hope to see it get an anniversary vinyl repress and love

[@bluntasiaalize1688]

@@EljohnMacaranas AGREED! I would LOVE if Artpop got even half the love on its anniversary that BTW did.

[@drywalleater13628]

About the part where you talked about Do What U Want and it's music video, I do think that if she released the mv it would have damaged her career a lot. I've seen clips and parts of the mv and I have to say it is pretty disturbing even for a Gaga video

[@EljohnMacaranas]

The main reason it wasn’t released was the director, Terry Richardson, who also was meant to direct and film a movie about Taylor Swift’s Red Tour (also unreleased), he had allegations and investigations that went public in 2018 and remain open. The contents of that video would be a irremovable stain on her legacy as an artist. They made the right call (as did Taylor’s team with the doc/film.)

[@townsendagency6780]

i think the fact that this era was forced to compete with miley,bey and especially katy’s albums was its downfall

[@EljohnMacaranas]

it’s beyond just that tbh, Interscope had no other major artists at the time, they had the resources to push forward, the single choices made things far worse but also the promo strategy which lacked rhyme or reason (the transition from Applause to DWYW was abysmal bc she/team r didn’t know what to make single 2, Katy had already shifted from Roar to Unconditionally to Dark Horse by the time Gaga started promoting DWYW) bey came out of nowhere and miley ate oxygen (until after the album launched and it came time to tour)

[@4kpiper]

Hot take but if Gaga does artpop act 2 she should have the weekend on do what ya want

[@inner_oid]

Someone can sub or translate the video in espanish ? 😭☹️☹️

[@deanrojo4171]

you know, another criticism ive seen for this album is that apparently g**sy is actually a slur 😶. thoughts?

[@EljohnMacaranas]

Super unfortunate name and song choice but one of her best songs, 2013 and 2014 were peak casual racism hours

[@philip2259]

u love the word audacious don’t u 😂

[@EljohnMacaranas]

My fave word in the dictionary, purr