《Taiwan Othello Championship 2019》Final

Black: Po Yun CHEN
White: Chun Yi CHANG
2020 Final: • 《Taiwan Othello Champi...

[@OthelloAcademy]

It was a great game between two expert players albeit the misflip. But these two guys placed 5th and 7th at the last World Othello Championship in 2019. Of course, anyone who might think they are better should join their local tournament to qualify to the next World Championship to challenge :)

[@gameshows5973]

Is it possible to end up with a tie game that is not 32-32?

[@OthelloAcademy]

@@gameshows5973 yes 31-31 or 30-30 is possible

[@though131]

@@OthelloAcademy Will it be recorded as 32-32?

[@DanBlondell]

It’s great how every commenter on here is certain they’re better at the game than the two players in the world championship

[@louiji391]

WHAT. you mean the pieces dont automatically flip over like in anime?

[@mona-mo3sd]

bruh what kind of anime r u watching😂😂

[@railx2005]

Wait, what anime?

[@JMROAH422]

What othello anime that you are talking about nigga? Hikaru no Go is close to othello anime nigga. Nigga.

[@noone-hd1ck]

@@JMROAH422 nigga nigga nigga nigga

[@adventureboy444]

I remember watching Doraemon episode and saw it could flip lol I believe it exist until I found out

[@mcid311]

If you are like the others who commented that the level of the game was low, and that the black pieces should take the corner. You don't understand enough of the game to judge. The game was excellent, with very few errors. If Black took the corner at any point in the game, it would be an extremely easy victory for White. When you can see that, then you can think about starting to judge the players.

[@jakemariano6862]

Brother can you teach me why taking the corner is a bad move for black when he could have taken it from the start? Sorry for this I'm still fairly new at the game. I hope someone could teach or tell me..thank you

[@iogaming6132]

@@jakemariano6862 I know it, if black would have taken the upper right corner, white would then definitely place a stone one grid left to it, black then wouldn't have a chance to save the upper -left corner as he couldn't place a stone there, white would then take the upper left corner, which would then allow him to take the bottom left corner. So basically that's a very wrong move to make, it's basically helping his opponent to win.

[@shubh_x]

Who won the match

[@quotesofrudy8193]

@@iogaming6132 exactly, he would have handed white the border pieces on the left side of the board. What a great match

[@MartinMllerSkarbiniksPedersen]

Yes, Black forgot to flip a piece in the end.

[@5950155]

saw that too

[@truthbeknown8550]

Why is it that they don’t use an electronic version in tournaments to avoid mistakes or cheats? I’ve seen how the cheating player use the forefinger and thumb to make a move while using the middle finger is used to make illegal move, and what if a piece is overlooked and if no body catches the cheater, the game should not continue, but the electronic version cannot allow any cheats or mistakes to happen, and it is most courteous and professional of the tournament host to save labor for the players. In the same way in golf, some of the labor is done by the assistant, or in tennis, the balls are collected by the labor assistant who brings ball to the player, but I am sure Japan is capable of making an actual board that allows black or white pieces pop up and seem magically emerge from underneath the green board, or have Green LED become black or white when player touches the square he wants to play, And why are there voices of people, voice of children and even other unwanted voices of people very close to microphone, someone breathing into the microphone, coughing sounds, that’s most unprofessional in a professional tournament, and then they count the pieces, as if this is 1969 when they were able to send audio and video from the moon, faster than the speed of light, why can we have an electronic board game for Othello tournaments?

[@alfonsoolivas7329]

I love how the player with Blacks wears a black shirt and the player with whites wears a... Beige? Shirt

[@huzaifahabdulwahab1499]

wouldn't have changed the outcome. white played amazing defence

[@khairyfarhan]

Impeccable.

[@wkhric]

This game is worth watching because the black player almost [knocked out] white player with [huge amount chess style]. And 9:59 the white player take a [win step] forcing black player take the whole edge. Both players are courageous in this game....very exciting!

[@jofx4051]

Score 38 vs 24 for white and black respectively If the misplay is removed it would be 41 vs 23

[@omeromeo]

That was a great play

[@wiwaxiasilver827]

From the middle it did get really interesting :)

[@seanlyons5171]

I’m new to the game, why was black so hesitant to take the top right corner from 20:00 onward?

[@seanlyons5171]

I see it more now. Amazing game

[@mdahsenmirza2536]

Yeah, he wouldn't have gained anything

[@wkhric]

if black take the top right corner, it equals to resign the match because, 1)black lose the two corners with whole edges 2)top left corner is a [dead or alive even void](斜角雙數洞，是生死洞來)that if white players take the corner ,white players can gain an additional move(single void,餘裕手) and control the movement of the game. Therefore:black not only lose about at least two corners(14 pieces of steady chess )to white, but also give a free pass and another chess to white.

[@solidwaterslayer]

Black will have the top right corner as well as the top edge. White can slide in between and take the top left corner and then the bottom left corner.

[@tangmanhong1224]

can someone tell why black don't take the bottom right corner at 32:15 ? Unlike the top right corner, the bottom right should be no risk at all

[@jofx4051]

No idea honestly, probably black could have won?

[@wkhric]

black also lose the game, but honestly lose less chess. just say that the top left even void is so powerful (dead (b2) or alive(a1) void) steps H8,h7,B8,g1,H1,h3,B7,a8,--,a1,--,b2

[@seekerotruth4963]

Idk if black intentionally didn't flip the piece in the end as pointed out in the other (only) two comments because then after top left corner white will take bottom left corner and then the space adjacent to it

[@greenrico10]

u can choose which discs to flip in ot hello?

[@solidwaterslayer]

I always thought taking a corner is lit af. But I’ve never seen such a poisonous corner. Jesus fuck.

[@lemuric4758]

def a no go on this one, specially w the outcome

[@seyvaa]

will things come out differently if black chooses to put at the bottom right above the corner? idk what number is that position

[@Rocket_Man]

What was the score

[@KhelbenGeldon]

Heh, black forgot to flip a disc on the diagonal on his last move in this game. Not that it would have mattered but still :p White didn't spot it and continued to play so I guess it won't be possible to make a valid transcript of this game. White ended up making a move that wouldn't have been possible if black had flipped the discs correctly..

[@jofx4051]

It is still possible but white flip from above instead of bottom

[@KhelbenGeldon]

@@jofx4051 Taking a transcript in this case only involves recording the moves actually played during the game. Doing so would result in a sequence that you couldn't enter into for example WZebra or similar programs for analysis.

[@tomkot]

Why didn't black take corner at 29:25 ?

[@kdmq]

Black did not take the southeast corner because white can just play H7 winning both the northeast and northwest corners.

[@truthbeknown8550]

Why is it that to this day, Othello championships is played on the old 1977 manual board with sounds of people talking and sociopathic children misbehaving, people sometimes talking loud, sometimes whispering or coughing in the microphone, while players are trying to concentrate, So disrespectful of people not kept quiet or even try to, why people seemingly la e no empathy with total lack of respect for audience worldwide, while any of the players could potentially make honest or not so honest mistakes, and what if the innocent player can’t catch he mistake made by the guilty party, what if the guilty party made accusations that the innocent opponent cheated, like Donald Trump made the same bogus accusations, why is it that electronic game board isn’t used for tournaments to eliminate possibilities for mistakes or cheats? It is very helpful to save lots of time and avoid mental blocks, save trouble of mistakes, and it could be a marketing opportunity also, if they could make a board identical to the classic manual game board, with green LEDs become black or white as player touches the square he wants to play, then computer would change the colors, record the timer’s time as much as the game in perfect replay and review for learning, able to download entire games from world Tournaments, with ability to play in middle of the game to see what if a different move could be made for better end game, right now getting annoyed and distracted by the sounds of women and children, who are these people who are totally lacking empathy for even the viewers, but especially for players if in the tournament, it would be harsh experience for the players, so why can’t they make a decent electronic game board, if in 1969 they could send analog audio and video from the moon, without any distortion or loss of quality, through the violent and destructive nature of the Van Allen Belts and faster than the speed of light ⚡️ ⚪️⚫️ ⚫️⚪️

[@lemuric4758]

I like the sound of people there

[@KnomoSeikei]

Misplay at 35:02

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

How is that allowed? Genuinelly curious how those cases are handled.

[@Nietori]

@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide i dont know but it would not have made a difference. even if that piece wasnt flipped, he would have put it down right, than upper left, down left than upper right. Would have had the same amount -1

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

Nietori / OsuIst Didn’t that piece allow white to get in the corner? Genuinely curious

[@ArloeMew]

Nah. White would've gotten the corner either way.

[@thehotdogman9317]

That's what happens when you run out of time, you rush your moves from there on.

[@zarusobaman7084]

What apps is the best online othello ?

[@Johannes00]

Should judges have stepped in?

[@hiandu7052]

judges just watch the game , judges not play. sorry for my bad english

[@MG-ng6zl]

is it me...or was there a error at 35:05

[@Fleppo]

Yes he missed to flip the one that was on the diagonal ?

[@duonghoangminh7634]

Same as my set!

[@PiggyWiggyO]

I suppose I'm the only sucker to give you the thumbs up to that comment.

[@anthonyjohnson2172]

on 32:13 the black suppose place on right-lower side

[@shirokyu_9223]

35:06 he forgot to flip one

[@azhargondal20279]

You don't move one piece white to black in right corner if u move then thy not at white side left corner screen shot not add

[@azhargondal20279]

Check time 35:08

[@Fleppo]

35:04 the Black one forgets to flip the diagonal one or am I missing something out?

[@michalmares8497]

yeah, but i kind of understand, that time press to flip all of pieces :D

[@willycortez1680]

black were win halfway but confiusing move to corner first what ever you must get corner👍

[@ItsHominah]

Can someone here tell me the strategy or something

[@nivington]

win

[@willycortez1680]

its so slow moving of two players😭. Remember quick moving are trick too. To defeat opponent player.

[@TheDarkestStar1]

Hello guys. I am quite new to othello but I've already fallen in love with the game. I saw some really epic plays in this game. Unfortunately I am either playing the game incorrectly or I'm simply not understanding something. Why is it at the end. Black stopped playing? I thought that it is simply black plays then white plays. Anyway sorry for a foolish comment. Brilliant game, its given me a lot to think about. P.S, I'm trying to make othello a thing in jamaica.

[@Christobanistan]

Black had no moves, so he had to pass.

[@hamizannaruto]

From the edit, it sound like you are playing reversi, not Othello. Both are different variants of each other.

[@dontmindme2764]

I live in Jamaica. I like Othello and absolutely just destroyed my mom who just plays without strats. I might post a video of the match

[@lemuric4758]

how is Reversi different? Ive never heard this ,just thought it was two names for same game @@hamizannaruto

[@hamizannaruto]

@@lemuric4758 Reversi and Othello are just variants, with Reversi being the original, traditional way, but Othello are the newer variant, and the one that is recommended thanks to its rules being more robust. Othello are also a trademark game, while Reversi is in public domain. A few key difference. Starting position: Reversi does not have a starting position. You can start however you want. Othello on the other hand has a start position, being that the position are in the middle in checkered. Another one is that Othello rules being unable to move. If a opponent can't move, their move will be skipped, and the player can move again. This does not exist in Reversi. Reversi, the game just ends, with the opponent lost. The colour are also different, with Reversi being any colour you want, but Othello is black and white, hence the modern version we see nowadays. A little fun fact: When the Othello was first made, they creator does not even know the existence of Reversi. Now, since Othello is a trademarked name, board game manufacturers can't use the name Othello, so most just use reversi

[@physisbeats]

le dio su guanex ctmmm

[@saravanaarunadevi8195]

Why at 35:35 the person who played black give black coins to opponent..is it necessary to give coins to opponent when no possible moves he has

[@TheAlexandreTube]

Saravana Aruna Devi yep

[@padmasrinivas5377]

He ought to give them when the other player is out of discs and it’s the other player’s turn to move

[@LeesChannel]

I don't know how both parties and judge if any could allow a piece to not flip over. What kind of championship is this?

[@rbx_suz_ROBLOX]

35:16 Black...

[@Mahathemime89]

around 18:30, it became an easy white victory because of that white piece top right

[@anatha2012]

Тупили час... Еще и фишки забывали переворачивать! Партия - на 10 минут!

[@bp-wr4wu]

I'm halfway through this and white is getting his ass handed to him

[@usedforks]

That's what YOU think

[@henryhatton1441]

Could turn it round at any given point

[@abhinavjain2985]

yeah but black blunders at 35:02 which allows white to get a corner

[@saburovanatoly2197]

Черные не перевернули одну фишку!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@browncony3897]

Too bad. Othello would never reach the complexity and permutations that International Chess needs. Thus less popularity is inevitable.

[@languafranter3450]

How about raising the board size?

[@user-fj2mr1bk6w]

台湾ちゃんのうちすじや

[@atheismo]

When will Othello reach a level of professionalismn like chess? Nobody would bring his lamenting toddler to a chess final, or would he? Everything looks so amateurish albeit this is a country's final!

[@vpn9656]

ㅘ

[@user-fj2mr1bk6w]

台湾ちゃんだ！ オセロの台湾ちゃん？

[@aruustamaya]

はい、台湾ちゃんです！

[@actazrath5878]

Child game

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

Hard to believe this is WC. It's not that they play badly but it seems that AI plays infinitely better. Also that misplay at the end was a disappointment at this level.

[@Christobanistan]

AI plays any game with few possible moves pretty much perfectly.

[@vanditvashishth3452]

Black could have won so easily...feeling sad for him🖤

[@IzawaYuki]

Black could have take one corner in the middle of the game. Why the wait? Just my two cents. Such a disappointing match.

[@mcid311]

what a disappointing comment ...

[@Unteroffizier]

Black had many chance to win white if he had concentrated con capturing corners. Black at the ending of the game allowed white to captured back too many corners as a result white was able to turn the table around.

[@femiyusuf2096]

Black throw away the game. Black was in complete control til it took the corner prematurely

[@sand9346]

He had no good moves. Please try researching the game a bit better. He played too loud at the beginning and that costed him the game.

[@jongalangtv3572]

Bo-Bo

[@bardiacheraghlou8166]

Everybody here says the game was really good. But I can’t find anything occupational. The white player could win the game really easier than this. 3 corners were free and he didn’t put a piece in one of them. Similarly the black player. I think the game was really low for the FINAL.

[@ducktail4068]

What a stupid game. Once someone has the advantage it's very hard or impossible for the other player to make a comeback

[@ScareTheater]

What do you mean? Black started off the game very strong with a massive advantage, but white ended up winning.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

are you here cos the AI in Clubhouse games is kicking your ass? Just making a wild guess cos that's why I'm here

[@gremmymemes]

@@TheLonelyGoomba LMAO bruh saaaaame. I'm stuck on "amazing" level CPU and trying to learn from vids like this how to avoid getting trapped and such.