Possibly the BEST beginner FPV plane - Volantex Ranger G2 1200mm wingspan

[@alasdair4161]

Nikola, I was hoping you would get around to this little brother version. I have been flying it for about a year now, and love it. I added top spec servo's and Dragonlink + 1.2gHz VTX and run a 4250mAh liion pack (remember the 20700's I mentioned way back?). It is very easily capable of very long range, and loves altitude. Another excellent detail is the proper hinged surfaces, and it has cast in slots which allowed me to fit the Autopilot to a thin aluminium plate, and slide it back into position right near CG. I run it with two camera's (split and micro sparrow) it thermals well, about the same as my Hawksky V2. I also use a Sunnysky 2212, as I purchased the kit version. It's a little legend that has slipped under most peoples radar. Thanks again for posting another great vid.

[@ArxangelRC]

So great to hear this! Very useful info here! What kind of flight times are you getting with that motor and battery? Also, what prop? Sounds like a very nice setup! :)

[@alasdair4161]

Unfortunately I now have it fitted out with a Omnibus F4pro, and have not trusted it for super long distance after having the same issues as you, but I am going to fit a new FW version storm in it soon which will make it trustworthy again. I run a 6x5 prop, mainly because the Sunnysky 2212 is 2450kv, which suits 3s liion really well, still lots of reserve thrust at under 3v/cell. It will cruise on under 3A and can fly nearly 2 hours, just not with inav...! It doesn't climb like a rocket, but 1m/second is no effort and it will do more, but I rarely need to. With rudder mixed to aileron it flies like a dream, it just carves like its on rails .. the only letdown again is inav with its clunky disconnected feel and crazy turn confusion. I was even tempted to Vector it..

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha... yeah, will lay off on the iNav for a while myself, will have to decide what to mount in it though, but I do have a fair number of the Micro APM boards lying around, and if anything, my X-UAV Clouds has proven that they are quite reliable! :) 2 hour flight times?? On this plane? What size battery is that?

[@alasdair4161]

I made delta style 3s packs using the Panasonic 20700B cells, giving 4250mah and 20A continuous. The size is perfect as I made a simple locating tray and the canopy holds the pack tight, but I also made a better catch system with a hook at the front and a slide pin release at the rear. It sure becomes a narrow field when it comes to flight controllers that you can trust for long range hey. Ive heard a lot of good things with the Cyclops Storm, and Tornado, and at half the price of Vector I thought I'd give it a try.

[@ArxangelRC]

Good... I have a Tornado... have had it for YEARS!!! Brand new in its bag... never used it, but I think I might mount it on something now... but might put it on the Ranger 2000, as I don't have the upgrade cable to bring it up to date so it would support a V-tail.

[@richardcoggins739]

That looks like a nice easy flyer. I have a Ranger 1600 arriving next week and am setting it up with Crossfire and 2.4 Ghz video. I plan on using it for some mellow medium range flights.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, sounds about right! Ranger 1600 and 2000 are indeed great platforms.

[@wesorama]

I'm anxious to see more on this one. Just got mine put together, but I had to steal two of the motor mount screws (2.6x8mm) to attach the tail. I'll be replacing those of course. Also my tail wheel was bent wrong about a centimeter too low from the hole in the rudder, but I just redid the bends. Other than that it looks pretty cool, balances with 3s 2200 lipo all the way forward. But it sure seems heavy for those little wings to hold it up, plus all the other gear I plan to add in the future! I wonder what the wing loading is. That yellow arrow is awesome.

[@ArxangelRC]

You will certainly see more! As soon as I am done renovating my workshop I will get hard to work on these planes and outfitting them for some good testing! :)

[@CradyLab]

My Ranger G2 PNP arrived today 😊 Seems like a very nice plane for the money and I'll be assembling it just as soon as the Bixler is finished

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... in my experience it was awesome! :) Good luck!

[@CradyLab]

@@ArxangelRC Thanks, man. I think it'll be a good way for me to ease back in to fixed wing RC

[@ArxangelRC]

Good luck with that! :)

[@Tsnafu]

Looks like a nice little plane. The clip in wings have been used for years on the Volantex ASW 28 glider (V2)

[@JoranGroothengel]

Tsnafu the volantex ranger 1600(1800?)/2000 uses them too, very nice although the hook part on the plane can break if you have an unfortunate encounter with a tree. There is a 3d file for them on thingiverse though, and it works just as well as stock.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, even though I haven't broken mine on the Ranger 2000, I did design and print some new hooks, just to have some spares! :)

[@lilpam2295]

What kind of camera model is this on this plane, would be grateful if you write back Yours sincerely

[@ArxangelRC]

It is the RunCam HD: www.banggood.com/RunCam-2-RunCam2-HD-1080P-120-Degree-Wide-Angle-WiFi-FPV-Camera-p-1017010.html?KZbin&ArxangelRC&p=6L1818635832201406F2 But they now also have a 4k version of it: www.banggood.com/RunCam-2-4K-Edition-HD-Recording-155-Degree-Wide-Angle-WiFi-FPV-Camera-49g-With-Replaceable-Battery-For-RC-Drone-Airplane-p-1686646.html?KZbin&ArxangelRC&p=6L1818635832201406F2

[@zachgriffith7157]

What is the ideal way to have a power supply to the fpv transmitter on the craft? The leads spliced into each of the corresponding positive and negative wires of the ESC, then soldered and have heat shrink added as to not cause a short, or to have a separate battery that only powers the fpv camera and transmitter? Thank you.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hi, actually that is about the worst way to do it! A separate battery would be a best case scenario, but is cumbersome and requires you to think about a second battery, which I am not a fan of! Splice the cable at the ESC connector, but put an LC filter after then, and then power the whole video system via that LC filter. That is how I do it.

[@zachgriffith7157]

ArxangelRC Thanks so much.

[@julianhumphrey4843]

I must really like this plane, im on no 2 with this model, fitted a br 2507s 1772kv motor, altered the motor thrust angle, and fitted an eagletree guardian and a 30amp esc

[@ArxangelRC]

Sounds good! Glad the 2nd one flies better!

[@filiplazz]

1. How much weight can it lift on this setup? U put 3 cameras, and it was fine, so what's the total weight here? Also, can you check how much more it could take. 2. Do you think you could install a full auto pilot, hd cam, fpv cam and transmitter, and still fly it? 3. Is it possible to install a rotating camera on it, and fly it. Maybe some compact gimbal, or at least a 1D platform below it? Or is this too much drag? I mean, it took 3 cameras, in weird places, and flew! I would love to build a cheap beast of a fpv plane!

[@ArxangelRC]

1. sadly that model is no longer with me, but those cameras were around 160-200 grams... and depending on where the weight is... it could carry a bit more... it will need a higher speed to maintain stable flight! 2. Yes, if that autopilot is one of those Omni F4 Pro boards, or similar, I see no reason why it wouldn't fly! 3. You can always do a servo mount for a camera and have either 1 or 2 axis of rotation! Should be light enough, but then it depends on the camera too! In general it is doable, just have to make sure that you can still balance the plane properly at the CG location to make sure it will fly right!

[@bobby790903]

I'm almost fly this a year ! this plane better than bixler ... good for the FPV beginner !

[@ArxangelRC]

Glad you like it! :)

[@EdwardChew]

this probably more fun and efficient than the draggy ranger 1600 and 2000 right?

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... it is smaller and more nimble for sure, and probably will have less drag, although those plastic fuselages on the bigger Rangers are pretty slick through the air! :)

[@hcmaclub5905]

So the fuse is foam and not plastic on this one?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yup!

[@roadstar499]

Awesome job! this is a perfect plane for beginners and old guys like me with bad eyes that are sick of losing there fast warbird and prop and edf jets...

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, indeed! :)

Hi. Thanks for another great video. I was "quiet" these weeks because, I was waiting for the equipment, which should arrive next Sunday, I hope, finally! However, I have been training FPV with the Parrot Disco ... it's possible! Best regards...

[@ArxangelRC]

Sounds good, good luck on your maiden then! :) Hope all goes well.

[@bbk5424]

Will it work with a 5000mah 3s battery?

[@ArxangelRC]

Depends on the size... but I think it will!

[@markhinchcliffe5803]

Any release date for the 2.4 yet.

[@ArxangelRC]

No idea yet... but also I haven't asked recently!

[@garssa2674]

Good afternoon. I'm searching a plane to do aerial footage with a gimbal installed. Do you think this plane will lift the weight of a gimbal and a xiaomi camera in the nose? If not...Wich one do you recommend? Maybe mini-talon...

[@dannymoore8785]

Garssa, I have this plane and Ive flown it with a 3s 2200mah and a gopro hero 3 mounted on the front. It flew good, I could even take off and land with the main landing gear installed. You should also look at the XUAV Mini Talon.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hey, this plane is a big small for a proper gimbal with a GoPro for instance! The Mini Talon (goo.gl/6CX1BP) is one option, as are the X-UAV Clouds (goo.gl/U1f7mm or goo.gl/MRgqgg), the Believer (goo.gl/YiYMkE or goo.gl/V2s9Pn)... also the Ranger EX (goo.gl/qMDQJj) provides a nice way to mount the gimbal underneath it for best unobstructed view down if you need that. All will be more suited for a gimbal with a camera than the Ranger G2, it is just too small! It will probably be able to carry it, but it will be too heavy and I guess control will not be as pleasant.

[@garssa2674]

Thanks for both answers! I was thinking in the mini talon, as it seems to be the unique way to lift a gimbal at under 100$, but two friends of mine had a big problem with it, when they reach hight speed the plane go to the floor with no way to recover it. They both have PNP version so maybe the servos aren't good at all, have you read about that problem?

[@dannymoore8785]

Yeah, let me be clear on this plane. I have used it with a gopro camera mounted on the front WITHOUT a gimbal. I have also flown it with a small FPV camera, 2-axis gimbal and VTX installed on the front. In both instances it flew fine. What I don't know is how it would react to a gopro camera and gimbal installed. As ArxangelRC stated, this plane does have weight limitations. I'm sure the planes he listed would do much better. I am considering getting the Ranger EX. That looks like a nice plane but a little pricey and I'd have to buy more batteries :(

[@garssa2674]

I'm totally decided to mount a mini talon as it seems to be the best rate quality/price, but thanks for the info! I'm totally new in planes, I have only flown quadcopters, and I'm a long range addict...but I need more range than a quad will give me

[@nucleo1772]

what do you think...can PNP version handle 4s 18650 pack?

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... the motor should be OK as long as you don't use full throttle at lot... and keep it to short bursts... but I would replace the ESC for sure. Servos are plastic... soooooo... gentle landings and avoid strong windy and gusty flying conditions!

[@k1ortia]

mine came yesterday and im ready for a stealth build. matt grey, gps, night camera, 18650 4s parallel..ect

[@ArxangelRC]

Stealth build? What will you be doing with it? Does that include a quiet motor and prop?

[@TheFreakyman81]

Witch camera you have? I ordered the Plane 😊

[@ArxangelRC]

I used the RunCam 2 on this plane, but anything in that form factor should fit.

[@brianevans4]

can this plane carry a gopro?

[@ArxangelRC]

Should be able to... but you will have to play around with the placement of the battery to avoid making it too nose heavy!

[@brianevans4]

@@ArxangelRC Thanks, I just crashed this plane. Got the ailerons the wrong way around

[@ArxangelRC]

Damn! Is it bad?

[@nathangrandmasterk9760]

similar to a spyhawk, but the spyhawk is RTF and has lights. I do like the landing gear.

[@ArxangelRC]

This plane is quite a lot bigger than the Spyhawk, and does give you the freedom to install almost any autopilot down the line, once you get used to flying! :)

[@nathangrandmasterk9760]

That is cool

[@ArxangelRC]

Sure is.... planning to take full advantage of it! :)

[@muffythevampirelayer]

Hi, Have you managed to get your hands on the RTF version of this plane yet? Apparently it has a 6 axis gyro built in, but I've heard that the provided transmitter range is poor. I would be interested to have your view on this plane, as I'm considering buying one. I'm a complete beginner! Great reviews. Thanks you

[@ArxangelRC]

Actually I did have it... caused the crash, which caused me to stop flying it! Not sure about the range... but the stabilizer that was in there was dodgy... also, can't say anything about the range, but I wouldn't bet too much on it being anything noteworthy!

[@zacjohnson8404]

does the 1200 have a plastic fuselage version?

[@ArxangelRC]

No, there is no plastic version sadly! :(

[@zacjohnson8404]

what would you recommend for an fpv plane in 2018. what are the advantages of this over the 1600 or 2000 version?

[@ArxangelRC]

The advantages of the G2 are purely size... but I would still prefer the Ranger 2000 over the G2 if we are talking some more serious FPV stuff... the plastic fuselage gives a lot of confidence and durability to the plane, and it can carry more gear.

[@zacjohnson8404]

what about those longer wings, are they at greater risk of damage in a rough landing or just general transport damage? how strong do the bigger wings feel?

[@ArxangelRC]

The Ranger 2000 is solid with either wings... a had crash will damage any length... but I guess in terms of transportability the smaller ones will be a bit better, as usual! :)

[@zacjohnson8404]

have you seen replacement parts especially wings for sale anywhere? I looked on banggood some people asking taht question and banggood came back saying no there are none

[@ArxangelRC]

I think your best bet would be to contact Volantex directly, they do offer spare parts. Not sure that I have seen them anywhere else!

[@AlexSh87]

Hello. Can you tell me please should I buy empty plain without electronics or in pnp version it works all right?

[@ArxangelRC]

If you are a beginner, the PNP version should be fine! The model is not heavy enough to warrant metal servos, and the rest of the gear is OK as far as I've tested it! :)

[@siropkaziev3124]

Excellent presentation of the aircraft, in great detail. Tell me, what plane is better than V757-6 or XK A1200? What is better to choose from them?

[@ArxangelRC]

If we are talking complete beginner... then I would go with the XK A1200... much more suited for that! goo.gl/zkju8c

[@EnglishTurbines]

The best bit about this model is its size....Its Mini Talon size. It looks shorter in the tail than say the Ranger 1600....Does it suffer from adverse yaw..?...Did you couple the Ailerons and Rudder together..? Nice touch assembling down at the flying field, and the takeoff was a surprise on the monowheel on that rough ground....:)

[@ArxangelRC]

I have not noticed any YAW issues, and have not done any mixing in the radio in regards to ailerons and rudder, I usually do coordinated turns myself, or leave that to the autopilot, if there is one installed.

[@horaciostjeward]

nice review , can you do one on the rewiring you dit ?

[@ArxangelRC]

Rewiring? You mean replacing the stock connector with an XT60 and adding the external SBEC cable?

[@horaciostjeward]

ArxangelRC yes

[@ArxangelRC]

Hardly think this deserves a whole video, but might include a small section about it in my next video of the Ranger G2. It is simple really, I replaced the T-plug with an XT60 connector, and added two more smaller wires to the XT60 while soldering it. The, I crimped a JST connector to them, so I can power an external SBEC for the servos and receiver, because I really don't trust the stock Volantex ESC to last, and when it burns out at least I will have servo control, even if the motor goes out, and the way this plane glides, chances of getting it back without any damage are pretty high! :)

[@horaciostjeward]

okay tanks for the reply :-)

[@Didjeridoolove]

Excellent review !!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@CradyLab]

Great review, man. I have a few motors laying around collecting dust and wonder if one of them would be suitable for the Volantex Ranger G2 1200. An RCX H1806-2400kv, a DYS BE1806-2300kv and a Cobra CM2204-1960kv. What do you think?

[@ArxangelRC]

I would use the lowest Kv motor... and 4S perhaps...

[@CradyLab]

@@ArxangelRC Noted. Thanks

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome! :)

[@CradyLab]

@@ArxangelRC Went with PNP. Only $10 more ; )

[@ArxangelRC]

Wise choice! :)

[@SteveGergetz]

Thanks for the video! Were you able to do loops, barrel rolls, inverted flight? Can you recommend a couple good and inexpensive receiver options? And would you recommend this over the XK A1200, or vice versa?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, it can do them... although it is not the most agile plane to use if you want to fly aerobatics! Which make should the receivers be? I can always recommend FrSky stuff, they do have quite the selection! As for the XK1200... different planes - this one can be used for more advanced stuff... while the XK1200 is perfect for beginners, it is more limited in space and being lighter at this wingspan, makes it more... interesting... when there are high winds!

[@SteveGergetz]

@@ArxangelRC Thanks much!

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome! :)

[@mikefoley360]

I bought an AKK v2 vtx the other week after watching your video. Since it arrived I have been wondering what to fit it into, I have now ordered one of the these...... I shall fit the AKK into this...... What will I be buying next week and can you keep it in budget, Many thanks :-)

[@ArxangelRC]

Congratz then, I think you will be happy with both, though I suppose at first you will have to keep the AKK at one of the lower power options. :)

[@julianhumphrey4843]

A top notch review of a nice little trainer/fpv/power glider, we are chatting about this model on the new facebook group Volantex flying group

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks mate! :)

[@taqyon]

You're the only other person to use that method of balancing props! That way balances shaft, motor and prop all together.

[@ArxangelRC]

Not sure I am the only one, but yeah... it balances the whole set, which is what you want! Normally I would balance the props and motors separately, and then again when I put the two together... but for this one I was at the field and didn't have the means to balance the prop on its own... so this works in these situations! :)

[@DreamForged3D]

Cool little airplane! 👍

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! :)

[@fenf777]

So 35min with 2200mah lipo or li ion?

[@ArxangelRC]

LiPo! A LiIon will have higher capacity at this weight! :) But I will have to replace the ESC before I try that.

[@fenf777]

ArxangelRC wow! Thats plenty of time of 2200mah lipo... can it fit 4000mah 3s lipo? I guess you can make it 1hr ft

[@ArxangelRC]

Not sure about the 4000... might be a REALLY tight fit! Also, not yet sure how more weight would affect the motor efficiency. If the 4000 has the same thickness as a 2200, but is only wider... it might fit, but some rewiring might be needed.

[@fenf777]

ArxangelRC thanks bro so i guess 3000mah will be ok

[@ArxangelRC]

Should be! :)

[@fragmaster76]

Love the yellow arrow :D

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, so do I! :)

[@MrFlyingSquirl]

I've been thinking about buying this one for ages. What are your thoughts on the 2000 version as a starter?

[@ArxangelRC]

The Ranger 2000 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/paPSmmV3nM9snsU) is quite a log bigger, although it does have that nearly indestructible plastic fuselage... so it should be able to take some beating from a newbie, as long as you don't damage the wings! :) It is also good for a starter plane, but due to its size, price etc., just a tad less so than the Ranger G2! :)

[@MrFlyingSquirl]

ArxangelRC thanks a mill for getting back to me so soon. I reckon the larger one would suit me for longer for what I'm looking for but I wasn't sure if it was relative-newbie friendly. I'll be sure to use affiliated links, thanks again

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks mate, appreciate it! Good luck! :)

[@TheBrunoolivieri]

Hi there, thanks for the video. Btw, please: Is there enough space for a flight control board? Maybe a radiolink minipix?

[@ArxangelRC]

I think there is, I am planning to install something on board this plane, so I should know pretty soon, but I think that top plate should be able to accommodate something like that! The Matek F405-Wing might be a good fit for this one: goo.gl/nDvpJ3

[@TheBrunoolivieri]

Thanks for the answer. That Matek looks the better option in terms of hardware. However, the iNav stack is not so mature as ardupilot/or/px4 firmwares. The video kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLOcohsibeVo5Y presents the Ardupilot running on a cheap F4 board. I hope to see something like the Matek 405 running the Ardupilot/or/PX4 stack.... :-)

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, I am thinking of actually getting one now, and waiting for them to make the Ardu port compatible with it!

[@TheBrunoolivieri]

I wish you luke (I need to wait works before buy). But I think you will be happy because Ardupilot team has this task on their roadmap 2018/2019: ardupilot.org/dev/docs/roadmap.html

[@ArxangelRC]

Sounds good... I hope they do it.

[@Ehsan_15]

I wish it was EPP. It then would be a really tough beginner plane.

[@JoranGroothengel]

Ehsan The tough plastic Volantex uses in the Ranger 2000 etc would be even better, it's some kind of secret sauce polyethylene and nearly indestructible

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, it would be nice. I have been trying to get Volantex to do a small plane out of it, but they always claim it will be too heavy for a small plane... will keep on it... someday we may get a plastic mini! :)

[@dannymoore8785]

Thanks for the review, it was spot on. I've had this plane for 6mos now and I absolutely love it. I have the pnp version and it has plenty of power and manueverability for light sport flying and aerobatics, but it shines as a stable, powered glider and fpv platform. It works great hand launching or by taking off and landing with the main landing gear installed. I currently have it setup with a 2-axis camera gimbal and vtx mounted on the included fpv canopy. I'll soon be adding an inav system, it'll be my first long range plane. This is definitely a great plane at a super price.

[@ArxangelRC]

NICE! Great to hear from somebody with a 6 month history with it! Also great to hear it will bear the weight of a gimbal! :)

[@GorgeousCorvus]

Hi, thanks for the review. How do you mount those runcam2 all over it? I'd be concerned about losing the one on the tail and underneath the wing. Thanks for the advice.

[@ArxangelRC]

Self-adhesive velcro tape has always been good for that! A big enough piece will make it pretty hard for the camera to fall off without some major help! :)

[@stevenwraight4554]

You made my bank account a little lighter ). Great review as always. Love your style of reviews keep them coming. Nano talon will have to stay grounded a bit longer.

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, thanks. Yeah, mine has been grounded for a bit, need to get around to installing the Mini Pix and getting it flying again along with a few mods to see if it will finally stop wobbling on the roll axis! :)

[@fabiofabius7065]

i learned to keep i flight plane with this,, and is fasst ohhh yeah, now i did a gift to a friend he is still flyng

[@ArxangelRC]

Nice!

[@MrStrikeforce1987]

Did you have to program any throws or expo when flying this plane. I’m very much a beginner and would appreciate the advice!

[@ArxangelRC]

Only a bit of EXPO... I never limit control surface travel!

[@patrickwentz8413]

Well I want one now.

[@ArxangelRC]

Its pretty good! 🙂

[@mauritz1774]

How is it Possible to mount an Propeller Backwarts? Ok I Had it done in the Past by my first Quad becurse I was so excited. But I never fliped an Prop by 180°and then wonderying why it have no Thrust? I was 7-8Years old to know in what Direktion the Propeller turns when I startet my Brain. And back than this was not my hobby. I dont know how to be so Stupid. Dont look at the writing of Propeller. Watching and starting your Brain to know in what Direktion die Propeller turnes

[@ArxangelRC]

It happens sometimes when you are not really paying attention and thinking about other stuff while purely automatically mounting it on, without really looking at it!

[@elcotorro]

muchca platica ¡¡

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... that is how you get a lot of info across to the viewer, in as little a time as possible!

[@mrstocks]

Pretty cool, i bet i can kill it! All the planes i used got murdered. Best i did was flight time 3mins until death with the nano talon

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahaha, getting better at it then! :)

[@markhinchcliffe5803]

Oliver Stocks you must be very proud of that

[@markhinchcliffe5803]

Now take a deep breath.......my oh my....

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha

[@camaro92026]

Get a titan Skywalker FPV plane

[@ArxangelRC]

Seriously... are you working for Skywalker?? How can you compare a 1.2m wingspan plane with a 2.2m one?!

[@volantexflyinggroup7295]

Every skywalker i have owned has been a flawed design, hence i now prefer Volantex, you dont have to fix them after each flight, unlike the skywalkers

[@mycrappyrental4706]

Nice videos But slow it down take a breath or 2

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha... will try to... but I do try to pack as much info into as short a time as possible! :)

[@mycrappyrental4706]

Ya but you can stretch the video out so you can breath. I get winded listening cause you are so fast. A few min won’t matter. Take care

[@ArxangelRC]

Will try to pace it down a bit! :)

[@daviddavids2884]

thanks for posting. good commentary. some observations. the manufacturer has chosen to NOT use a Correct combination of an Offset thrust Line and a Correct thrust Angle. the correct thrust angle Should cause an offset thrust line to (nearly) INTERSECT a model's center of Mass. see linked photo for a visual aid. the Optimal location of the c-m of a conventional airframe is a point within the Fuselage that vertically aligns with 25 percent of root chord, near the center line of the model. on this model, the thrust line does Not Even intersect the FUSELAGE. this model comes with servos pre-installed, Improperly, near the Tail. if someone at volantex Understood the importance of Distribution of Mass in the design of a model airframe, the aileron servos would Not be installed AFT of the cg. cheers static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/6/3/9/7/a5988257-224-bixler%202%20motor%20angle%20correction.jpg?d=1375236281 servos installed near/forward of a model's C-M www.rc-airplane-world.com/image-files/graupner-swift-servo-tray.jpg

[@coperc001]

Who are you working for? I've seen you post this same "information" in several places now....

[@coperc001]

i.e. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5eUhYKvjdybr7s

[@ArxangelRC]

Don't quite see what the servos have to do with the motor thrust like! They are just a piece of weight in the plane that can be put pretty much anywhere, depending on weight distribution requirements! In the case of these FPV planes, where you have huge amounts of FPV gear in the nose of the plane, having as much weight as possible back of the CG would help easily balance the plane when you add the FPV gear in! Keep in mind these are FPV planes first, and "General purpose park flyers" second! Years ago with the Raptor series Volantex did have the servos at the front in the fuselage... and this is when I moved them back to the tail, which freed up A LOT of space up front, and after that Volantex started making all their planes like this! It is convenient for me and I like that, and really don't see it as a problem! If we all stick the servos in the nose... where would the battery go, and the FPV gear??? And those super long pushrods and the sleeves needed for them would be just unnecessary weight, which could have been used for something more useful!

[@volantexflyinggroup7295]

Putting the servo`s in the rear of the plane is a great way to do this, as said it free`s up a surprising amount of room in the front for lipo/FPV and camera gear, short pushrods are much better than a long tubed snake and the servo`s are handy to get at if one fails, a great design and more companys should adopt this setup

[@EnglishTurbines]

David Davids.....Not you again....we know all about thrust lines.....Please just go away, nobody is listening to your rantings, we are too busy flying....Unlike you, I suspect. Take your armchair wisdom elsewhere, we dont need it or you.

[@WalioNYC]

The plane is plain terrible. See other KZbin videos that explain how the motor forces the nose down and what the workaround is. It flops around terribly to the left and right, it does not glide. And it’s only a matter of a day or two before a couple of the service completely crap out.

[@ArxangelRC]

Actually experiences have been quite polarised on this model! Some people have it flying awesome... others do have problems with it! Not sure why that is! A friend of mine had a lot of issues with his first one, it was a bad flyer! Bought a second one, and that one is perfect and he loves it!!!!

[@FATSNAIL-FPV]

Holy shit do you even breathe while you talk? So much info so fast, pretty distracted while checking out the video.

[@ArxangelRC]

Breathing is overrated dude! :P

[@nickymasawie6249]

Wong wong iki dho ngomong opoleh...ra mudeng aku

[@ArxangelRC]

:)