Aryan Invasion Theory - Linguistic Evidence - Koenraad Elst -

[@murphyd6467]

The AMI / OIT debate can actually be decided very easily by looking at the third person of the verb "to be". Sanskrit: asti Greek: esthi German: ist Latin: est English: is Obviously a common ancestor, which, given the geography, must be PIE, originating somewhere in its "Urheimat". Or are you telling me ancient Indians migrated to Germany, Greece, Spain, England?

[@vaibhavkrupakar240]

Or indian subcontinent originated life and it spread elsewhere

[@muralidharrao5831]

Are you doubting that ancient Indians could not have migrated to Germany, Greece, Spain and England?

[@anuragchandra7838]

Hello Mr Elst , What 2017 study are you referring to? The complete comprehensive Genetic study of the entire world population, which shows not only relationships but also direction and at what times is presented in the book Before the Dawn: Recovering the Lost History of Our Ancestors , by Nicholas wade , 2007. Shows clearly that modern humans from north India doubled backed out through the north west passage and displaced neandratals through the world . This happened about 40000 years ago. Originally humans arrived into India about 100000 years ago almost directly out of Africa. This completely rules out any Aryan invasion. And shows India as source of Europeans. As an example of the level of resolution of the study. There are two separate regions in Africa where ticktock language is spoken. These regions are far apart . Anthropologists had always suspected them to related. The above mentioned study showed yes they were related and direction of migration and when. Do you have a contact phone number?

[@anuragchandra7838]

Anonymous Yes I know. Linguistic data had always pointed to India as origin. Sanskrit being the oldest language in what they call indo-European group. But because this would imply that dark skinned or the word used at the time was “ni..er” would have been the origin of Europeans they created a myth and declared India’s version of history as mythology. But genetic data he is referring to is deliberately flawed. And he is falling into the trap of trying to prove the negative, which cannot be done. Example one cannot prove Santa-clause doesn’t exist. If you tell me see here is north pole and nobody lives here, I can say that Santa has special technology to cloak his home. And on and on.. This is the trap AIT promoters place you in , a position of trying to prove the negative. Linguistic analysis has always pointed to OIT, in fact no less than “oxford dictionary of English etymology “ points out very clearly that the word Aryan refers to a made up fictional race. And it originates in racist Europeans incorrectly interpreting Ramayana story of “Arya putra” the “noble son” to incorrectly mean of “Aryan race”. And early 20th century German Nationalism took this to another level. It also points out that the term indo-European should not be used as race but only for linguistics. This hasn’t stopped the AIT promoters. My point was that there is that genetic data should be refuted with actual comprehensive genetic data that has existed since 2004 ( I think). This data is of very fine resolution and completely refutes any version ( there are many) of these AITs. As to versions there are many ( just like Santa Claus). Think about it would we having any of this phony debate , for instance, if Sanskrit was actually in chekoslovakia? The attitude is anywhere but here. It can be Mars, Northern Europe, Russia. Each of them easily refuted. And of course there is the one that says that AIT originated in the mythical Atlantis. Which puts you in a position of proving the negative, so cannot be refuted.

[@RAJAT6555]

Genetics can prove or disprove anything if you use it without taking other factors into account. Note that ancient civilizations were open systems. Goods, ideas and people flowed both into and out of the subcontinent. Moreover, human life is, has always been, and always will be, nonlinear. Therefore, simplistic models cannot, with any reasonable degree of accuracy, depict reality. Genetic papers show immigrations both into and out of the subcontinent. However, what needs to be taken into account is the effect of the said genetic immigration. Archaeological evidence unambiguously points to cultural continuity from the present day all the way back to 8000 BC. If there was an Aryan invasion/migration, it would show up in the archeological record as a complete cultural replacement, but that hasn't happened at all. Yes, all-male immigrations have happened in waves over many centuries, but these immigrants/invaders were Hinduized and absorbed into Hindu society. This happened in later times as well with invaders like the Scythians, Greco-Bactrians and Huns who came as all-male invading armies, only to be absorbed into Hindu society, with their descendants known today as Jats, Kayasthas and Rajputs respectively, and all these three groups are clearly an inseparable part of Hindu society. As for OIT, well, it could be true if the tree model is used. Dr. Elst, Dr. Kazanas and Igor A Tonoyan-Belyayev are some of the serious scholars who have done work in this area and their arguments certainly are strong. However, it is equally probable that a far more complicated and nonlinear model could help us in this regard. One thing is clear though: there is no archaeological evidence that suggest an Aryan invasion/migration.

[@raghavarvoltore6517]

@@ram0210 I had to reply to you. Its actually laughable. Your facts are totally off. Quote any Tamil literature that speaks of what you saying. I don't thing you understand the problem at hand. If Tamils are the creators of Sanskrit then they are the Aryans. Then it also means that Indo-Europeans are native to India (created by Tamils) and from India reach Europe. Honestly I have no problem with your believe. Its not in conflict with the current issue (AIT/AMT). Now for the authenticity of your claim thats for another today which opens a debate to whole new view point.

[@abdulpreetsinghdsouza7723]

This chootiya ram0210 is saying fabricated shit from DMK & missionary pamphlets available in TN

[@chessclub270]

Google 'narmada man'. Fully formed modern woman (homo sapien) skull, about 300000 years old, has been recovered in the narmada basin. You'll get answers and corrections. Human migrations went from India to outside and then back again.

[@SouravPatil_Youtube]

Hindu Aryans have real Origin in india only

[@kumarbrowns]

While we are debunking the myth, we should also make sure we do not loosely use the word Aryan. Arya meant noble not a race. So calling “Hindu Aryan” again is misleading and plays into a political agenda. North and South Indians are all aryans if they are noble.

[@XD-lz5qp]

@Magnus Von Eike if there was any kind of Dravidian race then why the south indian kingdom which ruled didn't promote the so called Dravidian languages instead the spread of sanskrit to south east Asia was promoted by these kingdoms. Instead you'll search the in Wikipedia which promotes arya invasion theroy also states that tamil language is just 2500 years old . So what is that proto Dravidian language ??? Even the harppans had sacred altars which is most popular while performing vedic yagna as per vedas

[@kshatriyarajput4908]

@Dan Neutron I have Read that North Europeans Hunter Gatherers were Already Fair and Blue Eyed Only But Only Central and South European were Dark Skinned before 5000B.C

[@RadheRadhe-tr1zo]

Say Hindu Arya and not Aryan

[@monkeymayhem1977]

*Aryas

[@apo.7898]

The verb root pa- (protect) existed in Latin and Tocharian at least. They just seem to have a -sk suffix. But in Latin it had lost its original meaning. Proto- Albanian seems to have had retained it. 42:26 Where can I find the Kazanas' list?

[@meghkalyanasundaram8720]

Thank you.

[@BigEdges]

Pretty much everybody who believes or defends this theory is either Indian, of Indian descent, or has some other form of pre-existing attachment to India and its culture, and from that basis starts the cherry picking. You Indians have one of the most ancient and enduringly significant cultural and spiritual traditions in the world. Is that not enough? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_homeland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Aryanism

[@RajSingh-xn8qd]

This one is pretty obvious. I have noted, as I am sure have many other Indians, that Western academics and their supporters try to end all debate on an Indian homeland theory by accusing all Indian people of being either Hindu nationalist, or too sentimental or too emotional because they either want to prove the Aryans and all that is good (language, culture, religion, Philosophy) came from India or that they are purely an indigenous people. Western academics, on the other hand, portray themselves as just serious and honest scholars who do not want to get involved in politics or emotions. Is this not rich and ironic coming from people who not too long ago were arguing for Aryan white race supremacy and justifying extermination of non white races? There are still plenty of Neo-Nazis today who appeal to Aryan invasion theory to justify their claims. You see this argument is a double edged sword and cuts both ways. If you accuse me of being an Indian nationalist for arguing an Indian homeland, I can accuse you of being a white nationalist. Do we get anywhere with this kind of exchange of rhetoric? No, then just focus on the arguments and the evidence itself. Now answer me this question why is it OK to propose a Nordic homeland, an Armenian homeland, even a Paleolithic homeland in addition to the more accepted Steppe homeland, and still get some Academic consideration, but to propose an Indian homeland automatically is fringe, in the looney bin, woo-woo territory? Whats with this ANWHERE BUT INDIA dogma? Please give me one good reason, your best reason for why we shouldn't even allow this hypothesis to be even discussed?

[@amanakeet]

@@RajSingh-xn8qd ngl pretty good argument. It is annoying how both the sides of debate can get pretty annoying. Each time I research this topic I do it with popcorn on my lap.

[@amanakeet]

@@RajSingh-xn8qd a potential counter argument could be, the PIE languages and Dravidian languages being completely different with pretty much no similarities, not even in the grammar. For the two languages to be that different, they have to be developed in two separate cultures which were segregated geographically. Not only the language, but the rig vedic deities like Dyous Pitar have their equivalent in the greek pantheon as Zeus (from Dyous) and Jupiter in the toman pantheon (Dyous Pitar, phonetically similar right?). And the phallic worship was something that the rig vedic aryas attributed to the Dasa people, all of these things combined, it just points in the other direction to me. But I am still researching and open to new thought. [Also I'm not implying that Aryas migrated / invaded in 2k b.c or anything, it could prolly be 7-8k bce like sadhguru argued ?]

[@TruthSeeker69921]

Whatever in sanskrit is aryan's making.. they were invaders with horses came to north india.. they created sanskrit, vedic system, caste system by making themselves as brahmins of the highest hierarchy.. the true indigenous ppl are the dravidians(tamils) likely originated from harappa civilisation at the lost river of sarawathy.. there is even an ancient tamil city of Harappa in pakistan.. u guys can google and see.. but indian government is covering up because mostly are aryans and they will nvr acknowledge tamil as the oldest spoken language in the world.. soon links to indus pictograph are being decrypted using spoken Tamil.. incredible breakthrough.. that would bring back glory to Tamils whom were suppressed by the aryans for centuries till today.. so dont believe onto whatever the aryans made.. they are the crook brahmins plundered india's wealth and followed by british.. the original proto-shiva seal found in harappa civilisation in a meditative state can be directly linked to south india... incredibly the harappa civilisation emphasised on drainage system, fertility, equility, animal rights, self and social well being plus also meditation.. all these with emphasise to water can be seen in our Tamil culture.. the aryan's are from mesopotamian blood where they believed in gods, kings, pyramids, zigurats, temples, hierarchy totally different from harappa civilisation where there was not even weapons or war.. that is the ultimate shiva's teaching brought over by the dravidians to south india.. aryan mixed and destroyed most of the authentic Tamil teachings.. by right dravidians dont even pray during their civilisation, they only meditate because they have already came to realisation thousands of years ago..

[@dibyamartandasamanta583]

@@TruthSeeker69921 their no cast system in vedic times lol it came in mediavel india with manusmriti , uneducated people

[@adiindroju4541]

This theory had been disproved thousand times this crook is saying namaste to sell his nonsense.

[@gravewalker34]

He is showing exactly what ur talking abt. With some facts.

[@AK-od3rc]

@@gravewalker34 indian people's don't talk about races it's European term they introduced now I am glad indian youth is educated and denying this theory

[@gravewalker34]

@@AK-od3rc its germans and french who invented race science. When india was rich it was indian homeland theory, after india fell europeans moved the homeland of aryans to west slowly from central asia bactria to europe.

[@sadenb]

Shrikant Talegeri was very thorough

[@TruthSeeker69921]

Whatever in sanskrit is aryan's making.. they were invaders with horses came to north india.. they created sanskrit, vedic system, caste system by making themselves as brahmins of the highest hierarchy.. the true indigenous ppl are the dravidians(tamils) likely originated from harappa civilisation at the lost river of sarawathy.. there is even an ancient tamil city of Harappa in pakistan.. u guys can google and see.. but indian government is covering up because mostly are aryans and they will nvr acknowledge tamil as the oldest spoken language in the world.. soon links to indus pictograph are being decrypted using spoken Tamil.. incredible breakthrough.. that would bring back glory to Tamils whom were suppressed by the aryans for centuries till today.. so dont believe onto whatever the aryans made.. they are the crook brahmins plundered india's wealth and followed by british.. the original proto-shiva seal found in harappa civilisation in a meditative state can be directly linked to south india... incredibly the harappa civilisation emphasised on drainage system, fertility, equility, animal rights, self and social well being plus also meditation.. all these with emphasise to water can be seen in our Tamil culture.. the aryan's are from mesopotamian blood where they believed in gods, kings, pyramids, zigurats, temples, hierarchy totally different from harappa civilisation where there was not even weapons or war.. that is the ultimate shiva's teaching brought over by the dravidians to south india.. aryan mixed and destroyed most of the authentic Tamil teachings.. by right dravidians dont even pray during their civilisation, they only meditate because they have already came to realisation thousands of years ago..

[@ChristianAMR]

So if the horse is not native to Bharat but to Central Asia , what about the presence of horses in Itihasas like Ramayan and Mahabharata ?

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

Ramayana and Mahabharata were after Vedas. Vedas talk about 34 rib ashvas which is not the Arabian horse it can only be Onager or a different species of horse found in some parts of northern India. However many scholars think it is Onager a kind of wild donkey found in India. Ashes was later used for horses when domesticated Horse was introduced in India after Vedic period. This was as a result of trade.

[@kshatriyarajput4908]

@@venkatragavanrangachari3480 it's 32ribbes Ashwa

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

Dan Neutron You fucking moron, how do you differentiate between Onager and horse in a cave painting? Onager riding was prevalent and the cave paintings depicted that. In India horse was very rare because which is why it was a prized. Onager was called Ashva and later this was used for horses as well.

[@RadheRadhe-tr1zo]

@Dan Neutron Stupid person , you dont have to poke your nose in Indian matter, Fuck off and be contained in your europe and migrated nation

[@NN94887]

@@venkatragavanrangachari3480 that means vedas are written much before than previously beleived. may be 10000 BCE or may be much earlier bcz date of ramayana is 5000 BCE and mahabharata is 3000 BCE

[@sacredsoma]

Koenraad Elst is giving this talk in English to a nation whose mainstream media and politicians have been using this non native language now for at least half a century since the English speaking tribe which ruled over it departed last century, even without settlements of Brits in India in numbers that would affect the gene pool there has been a linguistic shift, yet he mentions that afghan and Greeks came and left no trace linguistically because the nation is a demographic giant. This talk is evidence that such a linguistic shift occurred in our own time and hence not implausible.

[@niteshagate474]

I'm sure it's not news when I say India is a land of diverse languages and native speakers of each of these languages have just about managed to keep these languages alive over the generations, this is where Koenraad draws his conclusion from. The Indian census of 1961 recognized 1,652 different languages in India (including languages not native to the subcontinent) and officially recognizes 22 languages as administrative languages. Today most media consumption in India is actually in local languages, I can give stats to support this fact but that would make this seemingly long response into an essay. so I'll avoid that and instead direct your attention to the fact the non-native tech giants are trying to expand their reach by serving content in local languages. ipso facto English is nearly not as mainstream as you portray it to be. The English speaking tribe did depart over 70 years ago but then the institutions left behind still continue to exist like the courts and even educational institutions hence the language continues to exist in some form, however, saying that mainstream media and politicians have been using this non-native language as some sort of evidence in connection on the point made in the talk is a red herring. The point is just about 0.02% (259,678) of Indian population recognizes English as their first language and only about 129 million of 1.3 billion people are actually even able to use it, which amounts to approximately just about10% of the population(source census 2011), that's how non-mainstream the language really is. incidentally, India is a demographic giant in the sense that even with just 10% of the population speaking in English makes it the world's second-largest English speaking country. There is no denying that English does act as a bridge language between the various communities however that still won't count as a linguistic shift among the general population. Similarly, there is practically no one in India that would claim Afghani or Greek as their first language now as is the point made by Koenraad. Koenraad Elst is a Belgian and he could have just as easily spoken in german or french perhaps even in dutch but then would this video be watched in India at all? similarly, he could've spoken in Hindi and still the reach of this video would have been limited. Essentially this talk is in English because its target audience is people who presumably are engaged in academia and are also well versed in the English language, the factors behind this might be things like reach across sections and minimizing loss of meaning or subtlety in translation. The point made by Koenraad is nuanced and shouldn't be taken out of context especially in regard to the time being discussed, things were vastly different in medieval times compared to the postmodern period that you draw your conclusion from.

[@satyampandey2222]

Well not really, this time is much different than old times, English is much global than any other language in the past, only because the British were able to get to so many places and colonize them. The use of English is not a proof of anything.

[@satyampandey2222]

You should much rather focus on the number of regional language speakers in Bharat, like the number of Hindi speakers, much more than English still.

[@gravewalker34]

European language does have memory of their identity. They r extensions of druhiyus clan who is initially enemy of indians and iranian. As we can see the word friend in baltic and slavic is drook or draug.

[@imlucifer5040]

No aryan invasion to india we r powerful nation It happened opposite actually

[@Mano_Vikas]

If we are powerful then why every one conquered us ?

[@imlucifer5040]

@@Mano_Vikas bcse we hate each other and divided and destroyed each other thats y we conquered by other And y every body wants to invade us bcse they know this place is rich and centre of knowledge and its like a heaven thats y everybody wants this land

[@Sinsteel]

Without the British you wouldn't even have a nation, you'd be like Africa - corrupt, squabbling states taken advantage of by everyone.

[@imlucifer5040]

@@Sinsteel u idiot we fight each other and divided ,thats the first reason they conquered us Do u know indian kings ruled over thailand singapur indonesia australia south china Do u know first university in the world was in india When u cmmnt on a topic u hav to know every information abt the topic Dont blaber shit

[@manni3087]

@@Sinsteel the sikh empire was prosperous, and happy. So were the rajputs. Brits came and ruined it

[@1800JimmyG]

You have to consider the range of the elephant in 3000 bc, not the modern day range.

[@sparijat]

The main thing is, trying to make a theory accepted by al when the truth is, the Mother of civilization, language, science is India, Bharat, Hindustan....people try to to shift towards the west to feel better, without any solid evidence etc...the thing is water is purest at the source...same for language... When people of Bharatvarsh went out their language Sanskrit got mixed with locals and produced the Sanskrit effect and some words in their language...they Mae be the words of things, relationships which were not valued or did not existed there before...like family words...matra, pitra and Bhrata. Simple put these places these people did not dwell in family traditions. They lived without rules and traditions of family...u can still see, they can marry multiple people, marry sisters, cousins etc...their leaders, religions are still trying encourage family values in them till date...some success is achieved...kids are communal beings (it takes a village...) opposes to Bhartiya sanskriti where parivar is first guru, Ma is first guru and kids could also study at home and learn their family traditional occupation or go to Gurukul which is also family ( Guru & Guru Mata us there) based...

[@Sinsteel]

Literally every archaeologist and linguist who doesn't have a vested interest in where this goes...disagrees.

[@cynthiamclaglen5687]

This European, (me) has always accepted that not just Europeans but all peoples came from Africa to India and then from India went all over the world! Genetics proves it! Hurrah! Cynthia McLaglen

[@Sinsteel]

@@cynthiamclaglen5687 Genetics doesn't prove that. There is no serious university in the world that has a faculty with that position. Genetics proves that 4000 years ago European-descended people brought blue eyes to the Indian subcontinent, and their language, Sanskrit. Linguistics, archaeology, and genetics ALL prove that. There are dozens of languages all descended from one source, which started on the Eurasian steppe. This is mainstream scholarship, it has been proved with TONS of evidence and would need a really large, large amount of concrete evidence to refute. I doubt it's possible. You have to have evidence Cynthia, "accepting" something doesn't mean anything when there's proof it isn't true. Well it does mean one thing, but I'm afraid it's ignorance. Look...look at the references and go read them if you wish, it's all there for you if you want to browse the proof. That's how truth works you see, it can be verified, tested. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

[@Sinsteel]

@@cynthiamclaglen5687 Here, primary genetic data proving through a very large study of European DNA shows that DNA that would later descend from these people shows up all over Europe and down through Iran, Afgfhanistan, Indian sub-coninent. www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/013433v1

[@cynthiamclaglen5687]

@@Sinsteel I am a little confused about what you are objecting to. The Genome Project shows through the genetic tests from many peoples from all over the world, that African people came out of Africa, via the East Yemeni Coast as the sea was very low then, and also the Levant received people from Africa. They went to India and all the roots of the rest of the people from around the world were born in the Indian Continent. They mutated over time and changed slightly bit by bit, and many people went their different ways out of India. One female from North Africa went into India and eventually mutated into four other different types of Mutation. Some of these from the first person went to Burma, Another of her kind went to the Andaman Islands. Another of her kind went along the Indonesian Islands and then at the Torres Straights one group split into two, and one group with dugout canoes went to Australia, for at that time it could be seen and was only ten miles away due to the much lower seas. Both men and women went to Australia from India. The other group went up into Thailand, and eventually to China, and then to Japan and on past the Aleutian Islands to America. Another of the group came up much higher and went across the Bering Straights when the sea was much lower but it was still very cold., These people became the first people in what was to become America. The reason we know this is because of painstaking work on genes from all over the world. As for Europeans. I am a European, and I know that my deepest ancestor was an African who came up to India, and eventually after quite a few mutations, she turned into my Haplogroup in India. I was not a European yet. I had to go up to the Caucasus and westward until I got to Europe, where I stayed until the Great last Ice Age. I sped down with my companions like me and other who were part of my people to an enclave where the Capital city is now Bilbao. When the Ice Age finished My kind came back north and now she dominates Europe. 40% of her is in the west of Italy, and the place she is most common is in the British Isles with the Celtic people. All that was found out by the GENOME PROJECT over many years. They began their endeavours by looking for genes in the Pacific which were causing certain congenital diseases, in children, in order to find out how to prevent or cure them. This turned into a world wide search for the Human Genome. throughout the world. They began in April 1990 and completed in April 2003 to determine the whole DNA sequence of the entire Human Genome within 15 years. Cynthia McLaglen

[@Samyu_N]

Aryan by Birth - Brahmin, Kshatriyas & Vaisyas Dravidian by Birth - Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) Truth is ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians. People living in Indian Sub continent who are ALL fair in complexion have mostly Steppeland genes in their DNA these people are basically Aryan. People living in Indian Sub continent who are Dark in complexion have mostly South Asian Hunter Gatherer genes in their DNA these people are Dravidian [Tamils] basically. Tamils means NOT the current day Tamil Nadu state people alone, they represent all Sudras & Praiahas [Dalit] lived across Indian sub - continent. Even today, you can see dark skinned and pale dark skinned people living in North, South, East & West of India, they were all Tamils only in ancient India. The ancient text Manusimriti designate the Shudra as Peasants and Artisans i.e. Farmers and All Craftsman, Shudra is NOT to mean slaves. Read the following facts about DNA Studies. Why R1A1 DNA originates in EUROPE, but not in india. why it is it not found or too less in percentage among South Indian people ? Why M haplogroups DNA is not found in Upper caste Aryans or North indians ? If found why so less ? If you have read Vedas there are lots of mention about a food made of Horse meat, then why HORSES are not native to INDIA ? Why copper hoard culture found only with Aryans, but not with Dravidians ? Why antenna swords found in Sinauli - India which belongs to BMAC - Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex ? Haplo M is found among 60% of modern day indians. It is in every person from south. But here’s the main catch ! It’s only found in depressed classes of northern and tribal peoples of northen india. But, almost to zero to 1-4% among Higher caste Aryans or North indians. Just like R1A1 not found in south in the same way south’s M groups are not found among R1A1 peoples of north. So, it is proved beyond doubt that "ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians"

[@fareedarifuddin2743]

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[@zishaan_rock8762]

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[@laalusworld679]

How the sc st people of panjabi speaking panjab. gujarathi speaking gujarath. Likewise rajasthani hariyana ect are speaking the respective language. But SC st people of these states are dark in colour compare to other so called upper caste. ? So these bramins came from out ariyan migration theory is true.

[@pragatisingh3515]

Abe chutiye, skin colour is not only determined by race. Many upper castes are dark skinned too. Most south indians, irrespective of caste are dark skinned. This can be because of climatic conditions or because of living conditions such as working for long hours under the sun. It is not a proof of AIT. Fucking idiot

[@topg2820]

It still doesn't prove AIT, Higher castes migrated from Āryāvarta to Europe and not vice versa, Nordics and Celts got fairer due to adapting to less sunlight and colder climate, SC ST were originally speaking some other languages (like Munda) and were living isolated in their tribes and never in the Vedic cities but many of them mixed (due to living close) and hence present day India has mix demographic , also the Sun in India is very harsh so people tan more closer they stay to the tropics, but still Higher the caste higher the % of better genetics

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@@topg2820 bramins are cow herders only . What higher caste.? Tamils buried the dead body under ground by keeping it in a big pot . Why because Tamils have their own land. But bramins put the dead body in fire. Because they are nomadic community. They don't have land of their own. Ariyan migration theory is true. True, true. Don't try to change history.

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@@topg2820 india situated at equator . So in india people are normally dark brown in color. Bramin's no way connected to this land.

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@@pragatisingh3515 bramins won't work under sun, they eat and sleep by exploiting others.