Buddha was every inch a Hindu | Dr. Koenraad Elst

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3 жыл бұрын

It is a much debated question if Buddhism is Hindu or not. Some people juxtapose Buddhism and Hinduism. Dr. Elst, on the other hand, says that Buddhism was a ‘sampradaya’ of Hinduism and that the Buddha never talked of himself as anything but a Hindu (at a time when even the word ‘Hindu’ was not yet in use.) In this talk, he examines various aspects of the Buddha and Buddhism, like caste, practices, beliefs, concepts, and rituals among others, drawing out conspicuously common roots between Buddhism and Hinduism.
About the Speaker:
A Belgian Indologist and one of the few Westerners to actively defend Hinduism, Dr. Koenraad Elst (°Leuven 1959) distinguished himself early on as eager to learn and to dissent. After a few hippie years, he did his Masters in Indology, Sinology, and Philosophy, followed by original fieldwork in BHU and Doctorate on Hindu nationalism.
He has published numerous books and innumerable articles and has earned both laurels and ostracism with his findings on hot items like Islam, multiculturalism and the secular state, the roots of Indo-European, the Ayodhya temple, Mahatma Gandhi's legacy, the dark side of Buddhism, reinvention of Hinduism, Maoism, direct democracy, defence of threatened freedoms, and the Belgian question.
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@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
Ambedkar was not agreed to any of the existing Buddha version followed in China Japan Thailand or Srilanka because they were heavily influenced by Hinduism thoughts & practices
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
Sanatan Dharm is a Open System which allows each individual to search & seek SAT mind you they don't use the term GOD leaving a scope for Ageya/Nastiks , To elaborate SatChitAnand , they Way/ Path/ Method is of his own choosing as per his attitude & inclination But culturally & in daily living it is so well integrated with whole world of Animate / Inanimate environment, Buddha actually never declared that He is treading a new Path yet Hindus recognize this fact that every person has a birthright to follow his own Path for seeking the Ultimate. It's uniqueness of Hinduism So they wholeheartedly recognize the present Buddhism Panth/ Religion . Hindus claim on Buddha cannot be denied for this original Words Of Tathaagat are enough proof
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
I am a proud Hindu/Sanatan Dharmi but I admire Ambedkar & followed his principles in my long career
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL Read Babasaheb again!
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL I don't accept your offer of 'idiot'
@ashishmoudgil972
@ashishmoudgil972 3 жыл бұрын
Ikshvaku dynasty was a dynasty founded by the legendary king Ikshvaku. 22 out of 24 Jain Tirthankara belonged to this dynasty. Rishabha(Ikshvaku) is present in both Hindu as well as Jain mythology. Both refers to the same person. Prince Siddhartha (Gautama Buddha) belonged to ikshvaku dynasty in 139th generation. Ikshvaku (इक्ष्वाकु, ikṣvāku), was 2nd generation king or rather the 1st king of this dynasty. His name originally was Rishabha. When he was exhausted during hunting and was about to die, a Rishi saved him by providing Ikshu (Sugar cane) Rasa (Juice). His voice became sweet and he was named Ikshvaku (one who speaks sweetly). He ruled the Kingdom of Kosala in ancient India. Acoording to the Vishnu Purana, he had a hundred sons, among whom the eldest was Vikukshi. Ikshvaku‘s another son, named Nimi, founded the Videha dynasty.
@satyajitray5889
@satyajitray5889 2 жыл бұрын
It is never too late to know your own history, thank you Dr. Estle.
@krishmajhi8801
@krishmajhi8801 Жыл бұрын
Really yes!
@saurabhchavan7439
@saurabhchavan7439 3 жыл бұрын
Shakya Muni came not to destroy, but he was the fulfilment, the logical conclusion, the logical development of the religion of the Hindus. - Swami Vivekananda
@ankitanand8211
@ankitanand8211 3 жыл бұрын
Yup..... vivekananda was a great admirer of Buddha ...
@MichaelMichael-pc7yc
@MichaelMichael-pc7yc 3 жыл бұрын
This is just politics... :)
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 жыл бұрын
Buddha taught that everyone is primordial consciousness, he was a theist!
@tribebuddha
@tribebuddha Жыл бұрын
I mean... we can't just read a comment on social media and take it to be true. Is that really a quote by Vivekananda? Hmm.
@Tat.Purusha
@Tat.Purusha Жыл бұрын
@@tribebuddha yes vivekananda did said this in his writing well I forgot where he said but you will find this quote in ~ Complete works of swami vivekananda
@Sticklemako
@Sticklemako 3 жыл бұрын
There is SO much most Hindus have not studied about the diversity of thought in our different communities
@Cricketing_Nostalgia
@Cricketing_Nostalgia 3 жыл бұрын
Every talk by Dr. Koenraad Elst is a treasure. Love to see you giving talks on Dharma and Bharatavarsha. Many Thanks for being with us on our side and guiding us all these years Sir.
@TheB657
@TheB657 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL Sir, do you say what is "believed in Sri Lanka" or are you telling the above narrative is true? And who is Dhammananda?
@gaurimathur55
@gaurimathur55 3 жыл бұрын
There is a concerted effort being made to deny any relationship between the 2 religions. When similarities are presented there will always be a group of people who will present ample reasons to try and discredit it. They will go to great lengths to find the negatives. The basic root of both religions and the methods along with the goal are one and same.
@gaurimathur55
@gaurimathur55 3 жыл бұрын
@enigma I am right when I say that people come out of the woodwork to discredit even the similarities. You seem to have very superficial knowledge of Buddhism and Hinduism both 1. You mention differences in the method. Both religions believe in meditation yoga mantra puja yantra puja and tantra puja to reach the goal 2. Hindus highest aim for moksha, a Buddhist wants nirvana ! 3. Hindus pray to gods to help us focus and to reach enlightenment or moksha. Buddhist too have images of Buddha and goddess like Tara who they pray to. Friend your need to study more and in depth both the religions then you will not be saying what you did.
@kikoli1082
@kikoli1082 3 жыл бұрын
@enigmaNope you're talking about just one school of thought in Hinduism. We have godless schools of thought as well.
@asitis1982
@asitis1982 3 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg thanks for the great discussion,🙏😅
@asitis1982
@asitis1982 3 жыл бұрын
@BHAGAVAN HAYAGRIVA thanks for the great discussion 🙏😅
@ashishmoudgil972
@ashishmoudgil972 3 жыл бұрын
Ikshvaku dynasty was a dynasty founded by the legendary king Ikshvaku. 22 out of 24 Jain Tirthankara belonged to this dynasty. Rishabha(Ikshvaku) is present in both Hindu as well as Jain mythology. Both refers to the same person. Prince Siddhartha (Gautama Buddha) belonged to ikshvaku dynasty in 139th generation. Ikshvaku (इक्ष्वाकु, ikṣvāku), was 2nd generation king or rather the 1st king of this dynasty. His name originally was Rishabha. When he was exhausted during hunting and was about to die, a Rishi saved him by providing Ikshu (Sugar cane) Rasa (Juice). His voice became sweet and he was named Ikshvaku (one who speaks sweetly). He ruled the Kingdom of Kosala in ancient India. Acoording to the Vishnu Purana, he had a hundred sons, among whom the eldest was Vikukshi. Ikshvaku‘s another son, named Nimi, founded the Videha dynasty.
@NirmohiHindu
@NirmohiHindu 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this talk eagerly
@premlatamahale3256
@premlatamahale3256 3 жыл бұрын
Bhagwan buddh was a kshtriy Prince who must have grown up listening to Ramayan,Mahabharat,Shrimad Bhagwat Geeta and other ved puran and upnishad! So whatever he taught in his process of nirvaan must have roots in Sanatan dharm🙏
@prabhatsingh5234
@prabhatsingh5234 3 жыл бұрын
He is from same vansh that of shri ram he was last raghuvanshi
@monoj3299
@monoj3299 3 жыл бұрын
Hindu religion didn't existed that time
@monoj3299
@monoj3299 3 жыл бұрын
Vedic religion is merely 1000 years old
@prabhatsingh5234
@prabhatsingh5234 3 жыл бұрын
@@monoj3299 indus valley civilisation people were doing yoga posture and yoga is hindu ram setu bridge is 7000 yr old s8dhharth name is a sanskrit name which is langiage of hindu
@positivevibes1907
@positivevibes1907 3 жыл бұрын
@@monoj3299 5000 years of mahabharat and 11000 years of Ramayan. Plz visit Mr. Nilesh oak channel. U will feel good.
@jaydhananjay9427
@jaydhananjay9427 3 жыл бұрын
Did buddha ever ask or approve of buddhism as a religion?
@jaydhananjay9427
@jaydhananjay9427 3 жыл бұрын
@enigma siddharth gautam must have heard of maharishi gautam, his gotra rishi and being born to king suddodhana in shakya kshatriya class must have witnessed and experienced the teachings of sanatan dharma. Yes both terinologies hinduism or buddhism weren't there but buddism in my question i meant that did buddha ask for a seperate sect of people to dissociate from sanatan dharma and to only follow his teachings or did he only want to combine his school of thought to the sanatan dharma...
@anitav7799
@anitav7799 3 жыл бұрын
@enigma no, we are all Sanatanis
@detectivesdelhi
@detectivesdelhi 3 жыл бұрын
Many times followers are interested in identity, more than master himself. One or two new teachings doesn't mean you run for seprate identity. Dharma is much more than teachings of a single person, it is work of many centuries.
@anitav7799
@anitav7799 3 жыл бұрын
@@detectivesdelhi Exactly. Also, wanting to emphasize a separate identity is often politically motivated e.g. Islam teaches Muslims to see themselves as separate and better than others because it was created to legitimize Arab imperialism at that time. Sikhs are also Hindus but the British and later Pakistani agents tried to instill in them a sense of separate identity from Hindus. Guru Nanak was just another Hindu teacher. Original Sikhs came from Hindu families and did not see themselves as separate from Hindus. All this nonsense of being a separate religion came later.
@rabirath5414
@rabirath5414 3 жыл бұрын
Can't say about Buddhism or Buddha that whether Buddha was a Hindu or not. Because Buddha beLonged to the Shakya community in ancient greater Magadha. And it is not cLear from historicaL evidences that whether they were the foLLowers of Vedic reLigion or not. But yes Guru Nanak was definiteLy a Hindu. His parents were Khatri Hindus
@shashankmishra2430
@shashankmishra2430 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing koenraad elst every time I get something from him.
@neollalobo
@neollalobo 3 жыл бұрын
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@kumudnigam7514
@kumudnigam7514 3 жыл бұрын
waitng anxiously
@2112x1Book2
@2112x1Book2 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this one. Also, can I apply anywhere to work for Sangam?
@wayofdharma8542
@wayofdharma8542 3 жыл бұрын
Send an email at (support AT SarayuTrust DOT org). Write how many hour per week you can volunteer and what skills you may bring to the table.
@wayofdharma8542
@wayofdharma8542 3 жыл бұрын
@SAILESH S Yes. Please write in.
@py12367
@py12367 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL साला तू तो हर जगह झूठ फैलाने पहुंच जाता है और हर जगह यही message लिखता रहेता है।।।।।तुम जोभी कार्लो तुम्हारा जोभी मकसद हो सारे भारतीय एक ही रहेंगे चाहे तुम्हारे जैसे कितने भी propoganda करले। सत्यमेव जयते।।।
@detectivesdelhi
@detectivesdelhi 3 жыл бұрын
Links ko copy paste karne wala jhootha hi hota hai. Ye bata sikha kya hai tune.
@py12367
@py12367 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL hindu humble hai isliye tumhare jaise itna jhuth failakarbhi secure baithe hai.... Jis din har har Mahadev bolkar jung chhed denge toh ......duniya mein kahi chhip nahi paoge... Bhagvaan tumhe sadbudhdhi de aur miljulkar rahne ki samaj de..
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
Arya simply meant the refined ones through studies & training through Tapasya For better appreciation one can go by the Buddha original words
@-tulsipanchkarauli
@-tulsipanchkarauli 2 жыл бұрын
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@svale1610
@svale1610 3 жыл бұрын
Full of enlightened information about reality in a profound text and context. Thank you. It is exactly what I found too after years of searching. A highly educated man with deep roots in old Indian culture and bloodline in warriors family of Rama.
@-tulsipanchkarauli
@-tulsipanchkarauli 2 жыл бұрын
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@purvipatiwana7231
@purvipatiwana7231 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir! Your lecture is electrifying. Your lecture explains so lucidity the complexities of Indian thought, philosophical concepts and political changes. You have clearly underlined the misconceptions about the origins of Buddhist thoughts and their connections to Vedic ideas. I'm absolute thrilled to hear such a lucid description of Indian history, thoughts and cultures that existed in this land. Thank you so much for your time explain it to us.
@-tulsipanchkarauli
@-tulsipanchkarauli 2 жыл бұрын
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@VivekYadav-zo8hw
@VivekYadav-zo8hw 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 kindly make this video soon as much as possible 🙏🙏🙏
@ashishmoudgil972
@ashishmoudgil972 3 жыл бұрын
While Hinduism adopted the Buddha in its mythology, Buddhism adopted the Hindu god Krishna in its own mythology. The story of Krishna occurs in the Jataka tales in Buddhism, for example.[36] The Vidhurapandita Jataka mentions Madhura (Sanskrit: Mathura); the Ghata Jataka mentions Kamsa, Devagabbha (Sk: Devaki), Upasagara or Vasudeva, Govaddhana (Sk: Govardhana), Baladeva (Balarama), and Kanha or Kesava (Sk: Krishna, Keshava).[37][38] The Arjuna and Krishna interaction is missing in the Jataka version. In the Buddhist version, Krishna laments in uncontrollable sorrow when his son dies, and a Ghatapandita feigns madness to teach Krishna a lesson.[39] The Jataka tale also includes an internecine destruction among his siblings after they all get drunk. Krishna also dies in the Buddhist legend by the hand of a hunter named Jara, but while he is traveling to a frontier city. Mistaking Krishna for a Deer, Jara throws a spear that fatally pierces his feet, causing Krishna great pain and then his death.[40] At the end of this Ghata-Jataka discourse, the Buddhist text declares that Sariputta, one of the revered disciples of the Buddha in the Buddhist tradition, was incarnated as Krishna in his previous life to learn lessons on grief from the Buddha in his prior rebirth: Then he [Master] declared the Truths, and identified the Birth: 'At that time, Ananda was Rohineyya, Sariputta was Vasudeva [Krishna], the followers of the Buddha were the other persons, and I myself was Ghatapandita." - Jataka Tale No. 454, Translator: W. H. D. Rouse[
@splashenful
@splashenful Ай бұрын
No surprise that either appears in one another's mythologies, as Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism.
@kmanjunath6816
@kmanjunath6816 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and giving knowledge of Buddha.
@rabirath5414
@rabirath5414 3 жыл бұрын
Today a misconception has been created that the word Hindu is of Foreign origin. It has not been mentioned in Vedas and other Hindu scriptures. And yes the word Hindu has not been mentioned in Vedas. This word Hindu has been actuaLLy mentioned in the ancient Zorastrian text Zenda Avesta. The word Hindu is a very ancient word but this word was very rareLy used in ancient times. That,s why the word Hindu is not found in most of the ancient books and inscriptions. So there is a misconception that the word Hindu is a recent word. But the word Hindu is a very ancient word but it,s use is recent. This word became very popuLar after the coming of the Britishers. It began to be frequentLy used after the arrivaL of the Britishers. And actuaLLy Vedic reLigion and Zorastrianism came from the same reLigion. SimiLarLy Shramana reLigion and the Harrapa mohenjodaro reLigion aLso originated from the same reLigion
@user-qz9pj7pn2s
@user-qz9pj7pn2s 3 жыл бұрын
This misconception was intentionally created by British intellectuals and Secularists.
@sreenivasulureddyp546
@sreenivasulureddyp546 3 жыл бұрын
Content is in detail 🙏
@cssuntherrao
@cssuntherrao 3 жыл бұрын
Buddhism as a seperate organized religion was started & propagated about 400 years after the demise of the Buddha. Till then it remained the original teachings of another Spiritual Master from his own spiritual experience, just like many others in the Vedantic & Bhakthi traditions who drew their teachings upon their own spiritual realizations rather than being scripture based. There teachings may or may not have resonated with the scriptures.
@AnonymousTraveler-ze2vm
@AnonymousTraveler-ze2vm Ай бұрын
Really? Ashoka did not live as late as 400 years after the Buddha so why did India's most powerful emperor propagate and follow Buddhism. Look up the dates more carefully and stop being a typical Hindutva propagandist. Can the ultra-orthodox Hindu ever not obfuscate reality? I mean, if the Hindu cannot be open minded then who will?
@py12367
@py12367 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting but more happy if it will in Hindi...or both... Because it will be more understandable...for me and those who are vulnerable to misguide in the name of budhdha
@ankitanand8211
@ankitanand8211 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful video
@neerajshukla7371
@neerajshukla7371 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait
@satyanwarrier3168
@satyanwarrier3168 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative talk. Got some great insight on Buddha and Buddhism on how they are part of Hinduism.
@ankitanand8211
@ankitanand8211 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL Puranas are not to be taken literally......they are mostly mythical stories.....why would we care about Puranas?
@animax1034
@animax1034 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankitanand8211 Everything in the universe exists for a reason and puranas means oldest, longest time ago, so it also comes in itihasa, in Ramayan Lord Humuman nearly swallowed the sun but Indra stopped him, so there is no way to find the proofs weather this statement is myth or history because gods are supposed to have powers that are beyond laws of nature(beyond quantum field theory and beyond theory of relativity) that is what a real god means, to have qualities of creator, the point is even if some statement seems to be myth the whole story need not have to be myth because we know Ram setu still exists and those ancient geopolymer floating sandstones made by Nala, Neel still exists everywhere till Sri lanka, so why cant there be some truths in puranas? even if we have myths its decodable e.g. moon had 28 wifes and rohini is the most loved one, now this makes no sense but after decoding this we can see moon has to go to 28 nakshatras and the longest time moon appears to be in rohini nakshatra. the most important thing is even if the advanced technological civilizations rise and falls in cycles like a wavelengths the history remains in form of stories which can be remembered by small adivaasi (stone age) childrens who never go to school and also can be decode by astronomers of advanced technological age. so puranas are not waste they make the Sanatana Civilization complete and thats why this is known as eternal (sanatan) civilization which passes the test of time in all eras, it is definetely not a religion, religion is nothing but divide in humanity, racism, for power and control to bring whole world under religious flag thats selfish, thats adharma, ask a dog cat or a monkey or any stone age man what is your religion? this dosent make sense but all of those have to follow the eternal dharma to survive to eat, to protect, to feed young ones, etc even animals have to follow dharma we cant ask an animal what is your religion but we can figure out their dharma e.g animal planet etc, all the civilizations in the world vanishes in world wars of ramayan war and in world war of mahabharata even in this era all the civilizations like egypt, etc all vanished but always the lastman standing civilization is Sanatan dharma/Sanatan Civilization. which only has the capacity to survive test of time, sense of history through puranas and sanatan dharma is Vasudhaiwa kutumbakam whole world is a family even the intelligent beings on other planets or lokas
@animax1034
@animax1034 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankitanand8211 Everything in the universe exists for a reason and puranas means oldest, longest time ago, so it also comes in itihasa, in Ramayan Lord Humuman nearly swallowed the sun but Indra stopped him, so there is no way to find the proofs weather this statement is myth or history because gods are supposed to have powers that are beyond laws of nature(beyond quantum field theory and beyond theory of relativity) that is what a real god means, to have qualities of creator, the point is even if some statement seems to be myth the whole story need not have to be myth because we know Ram setu still exists and those ancient geopolymer floating sandstones made by Nala, Neel still exists everywhere till Sri lanka, so why cant there be some truths in puranas? even if we have myths its decodable e.g. moon had 28 wifes and rohini is the most loved one, now this makes no sense but after decoding this we can see moon has to go to 28 nakshatras and the longest time moon appears to be in rohini nakshatra. the most important thing is even if the advanced technological civilizations rise and falls in cycles like a wavelengths the history remains in form of stories which can be remembered by small adivaasi (stone age) childrens who never go to school and also can be decode by astronomers of advanced technological age. so puranas are not waste they make the Sanatana Civilization complete and thats why this is known as eternal (sanatan) civilization which passes the test of time in all eras, it is definetely not a religion, religion is nothing but divide in humanity, racism, for power and control to bring whole world under religious flag thats selfish, thats adharma, ask a dog cat or a monkey or any stone age man what is your religion? this dosent make sense but all of those have to follow the eternal dharma to survive to eat, to protect, to feed young ones, etc even animals have to follow dharma we cant ask an animal what is your religion but we can figure out their dharma e.g animal planet etc, all the civilizations in the world vanishes in world wars of ramayan war and in world war of mahabharata even in this era all the civilizations like egypt, etc all vanished but always the lastman standing civilization is Sanatan dharma/Sanatan Civilization. which only has the capacity to survive test of time, sense of history through puranas and sanatan dharma is Vasudhaiwa kutumbakam whole world is a family even the intelligent beings on other planets or lokas
@Dharmicaction
@Dharmicaction 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL There is no such thing as "Brahminism". It was Nirvana based buddhist cult vs Vedic metaphysics based hindu/dharmic tradition, represented in the form of temples, deities, sanskrit mantras, rituals, symbols, festivals, pilgrimage centers, puranas, sashthras (dance, music, science), yoga/meditation etc.
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 жыл бұрын
Buddha taught that everyone is primordial consciousness, he was a theist!
@spreadinglense
@spreadinglense 3 жыл бұрын
Please arrange programme with Praveen Mohan regarding hindu temple and ancient technology
@shivam1618kumar
@shivam1618kumar 3 жыл бұрын
The curse to real Sanatan dharam was bloody caste system and this buddha opposed else the basic ideology remains same. Some brahmans tried to create this divide for their greed etc. Buddha preached equality and fraternity. Lets completely remove this word caste in hinduism and be united. Whats important is to understand the basic teachings of buddha and follow it in our life
@user-qz9pj7pn2s
@user-qz9pj7pn2s 3 жыл бұрын
There is no caste in Hinduism. Jatis and Varnas exist in Hinduism and they are not caste.
@anexcitedscienceuser9047
@anexcitedscienceuser9047 Жыл бұрын
Caste is British
@ItihasMarg
@ItihasMarg 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice...!
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
Joint Communiqué by Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Satya Narayan Goenkaji. The Maha Bodhi Society Office, Sarnath, Varanasi. 3:30 p.m., 11 November 1999 This joint communiqué is being issued after the cordial talk between Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Guruji Shri Satyanarayana Goenkaji. Both agree and wish that there should be harmonious and friendly relations between both ancient (the Vedic and the Ṣramana) traditions. If there has been any misconception in this matter in the minds of the people of the neighbouring countries, it should be removed at the earliest. The following was agreed: 1. Due to whatever reason some literature was written (in India) in the past in which the Buddha was declared to be a reincarnation of Vishnu and various things were written about him. This was very unpleasant to the neighbouring countries. In order to foster friendlier ties between the two communities we decide that whatever has happened in the past (cannot be undone, but) should be forgotten and such beliefs should not be propagated. 2. A misconception has spread in the neighbouring countries that the Hindu society of India is organising such conferences to prove its dominance over the followers of the Buddha. To forever remove this misconception we declare that both Vedic and Ṣramana traditions are ancient traditions of India. Both have their own prestigious existence. Any attempt by one tradition to show itself higher than the other will only generate hatred and ill will between the two. Hence such a thing should not be done in the future and both traditions should be accorded equal respect and esteem. 3. Anybody can attain a high position in the society by doing good deeds. One becomes a low (person in society) if one does evil deeds. Hence anybody can-by doing good deeds and removing the defilements such as passion, anger, arrogance, ignorance, greed, jealousy and ego-attain a high position in society and enjoy peace and happiness. We agree on all the three things mentioned above and wish that all the people of India from all the traditions should have cordial relations and the neighbouring countries should also have friendly relations with India.
@saraswati999
@saraswati999 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting lecture
@pranavvenugopal2609
@pranavvenugopal2609 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is one video in this channel which is not to be premiered. Upload it already!
@ankitanand8211
@ankitanand8211 3 жыл бұрын
I had seen the erstwhile video of koenrad Elst, it was a short video......now watching the full extended video.... I know that one teacher of Buddha was a samkhaya teacher Alara Kalam and many of Hindu ideas are directly taken from Hindu metaphysics like rebirth, moksha (nirvana), karma, Yoga etc.
@joyitachakraborty8798
@joyitachakraborty8798 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god !! ☺️ today I witnessed some brain dead people in this comment section ! Who are arguing budhism & sanatan dharma is different ? Having no hindu bond or connection ? Kya hoga inka ishwar hi jane . People think Gautama & his teachings after attaining moksha is different from sanatan dharma teachings ?? He took sanyas , had self realisation & got moksha following intense tapascharya in hindu way , but did he become something else after having moksha other than hindu ? And people made him another religion . 🤷‍♀️ What he taught us (there is suffering , cause of suffering , astangik marg , method to get nirvana )after obtaining siddhi is the essence of sanatan dharma . Words can be different but lessons are same . Read SrimadvagabatGita & u will understand karmayog , gyanyog , bhaktiyog , methods of self realisation & methods of seeking mukti or moksha better . Understanding Hinduism is not a matter of joke , whether you follow it or not doesn't matter , but hindus are not followers , believers of anything 🙏 so it needs patience & deep thinking to understand our rich philosophy & logic behind all sanskara , rituals ,customs, culture , concept of devi devta , ishwar , vagban , paramatma , self realisation , karma , different methods of mukti or moksha for different people . Actually the problem is , hindu does not have their education system , so many generations have gone uneducated & unaware about hindu & sanatan dharma. All sruti, smriti , vedas , puran , upanishad , origin of Jain, Budhist, Sikhs & how all these sects have stem out from Sanatan dharma should be taught . So , separists will not be able to divide us !!
@agastyaagattiyam3256
@agastyaagattiyam3256 3 жыл бұрын
The use of the English term "Hinduism" to describe a collection of practices and beliefs is a fairly recent construction: it was first used by Raja Ram Mohun Roy in 1816-17.[45] The term "Hinduism" was coined in around 1830 by those Indians who opposed British colonialism, and who wanted to distinguish themselves from other religious groups.
@agastyaagattiyam3256
@agastyaagattiyam3256 3 жыл бұрын
@Rahul that was river name “Indus river”
@agastyaagattiyam3256
@agastyaagattiyam3256 3 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg I do not see any dharma practiced by people in these days ,also Hindu history told by Europeans in many aspects of....
@rtam7097
@rtam7097 3 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg d first Hindu word is found in Darius inscription.
@rtam7097
@rtam7097 3 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg baga vazraka Auramazdā hya imām būmim adā hya avam asmānam adā hya martiyam adā hya šiyātim adā martiyahyā hya Dārayavaum xšāyaθiyam akunauš aivam parūvnām xšāyaθiyam aivam parūvnām framātāram adam Dārayavauš xšāyaθiya vazraka xšāyaθiya xšāyaθiyānām xšāyaθiya dahyūnām vispazanānām xšāyaθiya ahyāyā būmiyā vazrakāyā dūraiy apiy Vištāspahyā puça Haxāmanišiya Pārsa Pārsahyā puça Ariya Ariya ciça θātiy Dārayavauš xšāyaθiya vašnā Auramazdāhā imā dahyāva tyā adam agarbāyam apataram hacā Pārsā adamšām : patiyaxšayaiy manā bājim abaraha tyašām hacāma aθahya ava akunava dātam tya manā avadiš adāraiya Māda Ūvja Parθava Haraiva Bāxtriš Suguda Uvārazmiš Zraka Harauvatiš θataguš Gandāra *Hinduš* 🇮🇳 Sakā haumavargā Sakā tigraxaudā Bābirauš Ahurā Arabāya (Arabia) Mudrāya (Egypt) Armina (Armenia) Katpatuka Sparda Yauna (Ionia) Sakā tyaiy paradraya Skudra Yaunā takabarā Putāyā Kūšiyā Maciyā Karkā
@rtam7097
@rtam7097 3 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg if u know sanskrit then u will get many words as Old Persian nd Sanskrit were sister languages
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems
@skynet_cyberdyne_systems 2 жыл бұрын
Good work
@janardansingh5926
@janardansingh5926 3 жыл бұрын
Sanatan Dharma is much older than the written Vedas , as old as at least 15000 years old viz Shiva worship Shruties , Surya Sidhant & it's Geographies went from Iran to Indonesia by 3000 BC it has spread from Japan China East Asia to Eastern coast of North & South America
@vish2553
@vish2553 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Elst has been going on about the age of Vedas for a while . This is the problem of outsiders. Vedas are eternal, Authorless, Aparusheya and as such no time can be ascribed to them. He will not accept this. He also is of the opinion that Indian astrology/Astronomy came from Greece. Madam Jayshree Saranathan had taken him apart on this. Dr Elst is nice person and scholar but he gets few things wrong. I do have great regards for him.
@AnonymousTraveler-ze2vm
@AnonymousTraveler-ze2vm Ай бұрын
Yes, and I was on that spaceship. On that ship I met an expert in Ayur-Veda and he mentioned that janardansingh5926 the mighty lion of Punjab has unfortunately stopped taking his medication(astral plants that stop delusional thought in one second). He wanted me to remind you not to miss your dosage lest the 1000000 BC vimana spaceship might have no choice but to kidnap you for experimentation. Please, heed his advice. Thanks, and best wishes
@Sunny-rh6ik
@Sunny-rh6ik 3 жыл бұрын
Br Ambedkar showed path to SC ST OBC that if you are discriminated convert to Buddhism Jainism or Shikism (Indic dharmas) He was against Abrahamic faiths He himself converted to Buddhism and what Buddhists did with mslms in Myanmar everyone knows
@dengxaoping5031
@dengxaoping5031 3 жыл бұрын
You are using the word convert, the idea of conversion itself is an alien idea to this land
@Sunny-rh6ik
@Sunny-rh6ik 2 жыл бұрын
@marsh mellow Whole world knows now that PISLAM divides humanity in momin & ka* fir. Any ideology which divides humanity is not accepted.
@vinit1366
@vinit1366 2 жыл бұрын
He is fool
@jayakrishnanm7838
@jayakrishnanm7838 3 жыл бұрын
Namaste 🙏
@vpcreationsunlimited
@vpcreationsunlimited 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...danke je wel Meneer Erst. I am so glad I found you. When did Buddhism started? Was Sidartha a Buddhist then?? No, he was not !! Greetings from New York City 🙏. ✨ 😊 🌠🌌💫⚛💖🌲☃️💐
@geetaarth7142
@geetaarth7142 3 жыл бұрын
A blog on Guru Nanak Dev Ji, especially on his life and journeys may be made. Had he borrowed anything from Abrahamic religions which was absent in various branches of Indic philosophy.?
@otakarkuby3926
@otakarkuby3926 3 жыл бұрын
The English Empire has not gone away, it merely changed its name to the common wealth, legalities and the such are still in place, for example the original 13 colonies of North America are still crown owned.
@jaypalpatel4157
@jaypalpatel4157 3 жыл бұрын
Gautama Buddha was from the Shakya clan of Suryavansha, the clan of Lord Rama. He was a Kshatriya.
@NirmohiHindu
@NirmohiHindu 3 жыл бұрын
How to ask question in Live session?
@sjain8111
@sjain8111 3 жыл бұрын
...press ‘live chat’ button
@ratanashifu
@ratanashifu 3 жыл бұрын
Alleen al uw mening dat brahmavihra in connectie staat met het concept Brahma uit het (pré-) hinduïsme illustreert dat u de geschiedenis, c.q. de sequentie van het ontstaan van beide stromingen niet kent of niet beschouwt.
@gaurimathur55
@gaurimathur55 3 жыл бұрын
Dividing Hinduism from Buddhism is a complete tragedy. They are both one and the same. In Hinduism Buddha is the 9th incarnation of lord Vishnu. “ Buddh avatar “. Both believe in rebirth karma, yoga, mantras, sanskrit shlokas yantra puja, tantra puja goddess puja. moksha/ nirvana. Sanyas or monk hood. Orange for the monks. !!!! For that matter I feel Jainism and Sikhism have the same underlying philosophies which are straight out of the vedas They should all unite and come under the umbrella of Sanatana dharma. Please do a program spreading the similarities of all these Indic religious beliefs. Also there is strength in numbers against the proselytising Abrahamic faiths.
@bhaskarjyaachatterjee
@bhaskarjyaachatterjee 3 жыл бұрын
Stop your communal thoughts to intervene with your true nature.
@monoj3299
@monoj3299 3 жыл бұрын
What is the birth year of your vishnu ,the fake god of fake religion ?
@py12367
@py12367 3 жыл бұрын
@KUMAR SANIL साला तू तो हर जगह झूठ फैलाने पहुंच जाता है और हर जगह यही message लिखता रहेता है।।।।।तुम जोभी कार्लो तुम्हारा जोभी मकसद हो सारे भारतीय एक ही रहेंगे चाहे तुम्हारे जैसे कितने भी propoganda करले। सत्यमेव जयते।।।
@MichaelMichael-pc7yc
@MichaelMichael-pc7yc 3 жыл бұрын
This is again politics. An avatar of a god must speak about that god. We have no evidence that Buddha reached or speak about any god. Further, spirtual technicks do not belong to any religion, are just universal. If a christian is doing pranayama, that doesnt make him less christian.
@py12367
@py12367 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMichael-pc7yc Who say that Avatar must speak about God...not necessary.......if one wants believe than his choice and not to believe also his choice...
@405miranda
@405miranda 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏🙏
@uselesshero.official
@uselesshero.official 3 жыл бұрын
But Wikipedia says that there's no belief of 'atma' or soul or self in Buddhism because Buddha said 'Anatta' or 'Anatma' ie no self/ soul. How can we confirm?
@user-uh7tm9wk4w
@user-uh7tm9wk4w 3 жыл бұрын
They call it shoonya.
@TheB657
@TheB657 3 жыл бұрын
Buddhist belief holds that "Aatman" does not exist. Sanatana Dharma establishes the existence of Aatman and the Jeev Aatman (Creature Soul) as a "Pitcher carrying water/essence/soul of the bigger body called Param Brahmaan or Universe".
@ashishmoudgil972
@ashishmoudgil972 3 жыл бұрын
Ikshvaku dynasty was a dynasty founded by the legendary king Ikshvaku. 22 out of 24 Jain Tirthankara belonged to this dynasty. Rishabha(Ikshvaku) is present in both Hindu as well as Jain mythology. Both refers to the same person. Prince Siddhartha (Gautama Buddha) belonged to ikshvaku dynasty in 139th generation. Ikshvaku (इक्ष्वाकु, ikṣvāku), was 2nd generation king or rather the 1st king of this dynasty. His name originally was Rishabha. When he was exhausted during hunting and was about to die, a Rishi saved him by providing Ikshu (Sugar cane) Rasa (Juice). His voice became sweet and he was named Ikshvaku (one who speaks sweetly). He ruled the Kingdom of Kosala in ancient India. Acoording to the Vishnu Purana, he had a hundred sons, among whom the eldest was Vikukshi. Ikshvaku‘s another son, named Nimi, founded the Videha dynasty.
@nileshsharma8469
@nileshsharma8469 2 жыл бұрын
What is source of it ? Would like to read
@desivideshi4853
@desivideshi4853 3 жыл бұрын
True
@aishwaryasrivastava9508
@aishwaryasrivastava9508 3 жыл бұрын
Wooowww this was an eye opener... thankyou so much for these talks...🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@tesstess7005
@tesstess7005 3 жыл бұрын
no need of any argument just follow lord buddhas teaching then you can understand whether the buddha is Hindu or not
@anandsai9378
@anandsai9378 3 жыл бұрын
"Buddha" itself is a Hindu word!
@tesstess7005
@tesstess7005 3 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 MAGADI LANGUAGE ALSO CALLED PALI
@anandsai9378
@anandsai9378 3 жыл бұрын
@@tesstess7005 Magadhi and Pali are also Hindu words 😂😂
@tesstess7005
@tesstess7005 3 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pali
@tesstess7005
@tesstess7005 3 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 HINDU IS NOT A LAGUAGE
@tanned06
@tanned06 Жыл бұрын
A very much anachronistic point of view, indeed. At the time the Buddha arose in this world there was no 'Hinduism' which is a pretty recent invention after Brahmanism reformed itself through centuries of assimilation, syncretism, and adaptation of its own teachings particularly of Buddhism and Jainism. If we are really faithful to the history and all the important ancient Buddhist texts and historiographic accounts that pass down to us, we would be clear that the Buddha, represented as the most evolutionary force of Sramana schools, was and still is the most vehement critique of the self-serving corrupt vanna/caste system of the Brahmins and the old Vedas.
@ruhirc
@ruhirc 3 жыл бұрын
Buddhism is a subset of Hinduism(a way of life, which walks on the path of peace and nirvana via self enlightenment using various yogic kriya yoga ), there is zero doubt on it, yes he was a Divine soul (GOD) who cleaned some distortion/impurities of Hinduism , which happed due to tinkering of Das nami parampara. All Hindus feel proud of it.
@geetaarth7142
@geetaarth7142 3 жыл бұрын
Dashnami tradition is happening of post Budha period and started by Shankara, most probably during Harshvardhana period.
@sparijat
@sparijat 3 жыл бұрын
The founder of Jainism was also a king, also related to Ram, was one of his ancestors. So why Jainism saw a rise like Bhudhism?
@dengxaoping5031
@dengxaoping5031 3 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about mahvir swami? I think he was 26th tirthankar of Jain sampradaya
@SagarSagar-ro3fj
@SagarSagar-ro3fj 3 жыл бұрын
The books stuffed behind that man show how packed his knowledge is ..or will be
@FirstLast-vr5gh
@FirstLast-vr5gh 2 жыл бұрын
We are blessed to have a sage like Dr. Koenraad Elst jee who through his sheer devotion, dedication and discipline learnt so much about our Sanatana Dharma. Westerners put in lot of time in research through systematic approach, which is very rare here. They are taught to reason out, to logic. I have seen them study sooktas, Upanishads etc which average Hindu hardly reads n try to understand. We do rote learning! And then there are so called secular, intellectuals who have twisted our history for whatever reason best known to them. The modern school system doesn't educate people in the real sense of the term. They are mostly waste of precious years! This is the reason we see handful of knowledgeable persons in India. This has to change. The sooner, the better. Guru kulas are the need of the hour.
@nishantdongre
@nishantdongre 3 жыл бұрын
Any Human being can by practicing sheel samadhi and truth as it is can be a liberated person and after that he will no more sectarian or attaced to any organised religion.
@pallabnaskar4892
@pallabnaskar4892 3 жыл бұрын
I am a scheduled caste. SC. Sub-caste - Paundra from West Bengal. In Gita Shri Krishna has said profoundly -"Chatur-Varna maya sristam Guna Karma bibhagasaha" Chatur Varna - 4 Varnas, maya sristam - is created by me, Guna Karma - gunas (qualities) and Karma - work, bibhagasaha - differentiation. 4 Varnas are created by me, based on the differentiation of quality and work. There is NO MENTION of Janma or Birth. You can become a Brahmin, Kshtriya, Vaishya or Sudhra based on your quality and work. You can interchange between your current Varna. Don't let Abrahamics fool you with their false explanations and propaganda. Be blessed and always chant the holy name of One and only Supreme personality of Godhead who himself proclaimed in Gita "Aham bija pradaha pita" (I'm THE seed giving father of these creations). Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare hare.
@karm5431
@karm5431 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@theybecameus
@theybecameus 3 жыл бұрын
Yogi ji future Prime minister
@otakarkuby3926
@otakarkuby3926 3 жыл бұрын
The root of any religion, is not to reach the divine (what ever that is) it is to be a true human being, using all the tools that a human has to realise empathy and compassion. Huamns come to this realisation independantly, from many back grounds, who's roots should not be confused with the enlightenment obtained (by which I mean empathy and comapassion). All religions and cultural basis are valid as paths for obtaining true sight. It is at the decernment of the individual to best use those tools to reach their goal. Enlightnement is there fore gained in spite of the religious and cultural doctorine, and not solely because of it. Many seem invested in the source of the outcome rather than the conclusion itself. there is no true path with billions of minds, yet there is one true consiousness that unites us all. Do not be invested in your own outcome or that of others.
@siddharthmishra8031
@siddharthmishra8031 3 жыл бұрын
The philosophy of Buddha was taken from the" Upanishads "
@satishpatel5260
@satishpatel5260 2 жыл бұрын
Truth 👉 Original,is BHARAT (SANSKRIT)as today still is BHARAT all civilizations began from here RAMAYANA, BHAGAVAD GITA MAHABHARAT as BUDDHA is the 'ROOTS 'of OM 🕉 GURU MAHADEVIJI, HANUMANJIS,all MANDIRS is SANSKRIT 🔱🙏
@urgenlama5418
@urgenlama5418 3 жыл бұрын
Only a person having no information about Buddhist philosophy would state that Buddhism "Aanatma gyan " and Hindu "Aatman gyan" as same.How can "saat"(unchanging in three times past ,present ,future) and Aanitya (ever changing ) is same?
@aryan.kapoor
@aryan.kapoor 3 жыл бұрын
Lol he was every inch a Hindu. In dasratha jataka and that's jataka he claimed himself to be incarnation of Vishnu. Hevajra tantra is totally copied from hinduism In anguttara nikaya he accepted the caste system
@urgenlama5418
@urgenlama5418 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryan.kapoor I think you got every information wrong brother.There have been and there will be many Samyak Sam Buddha's but non of them are Avatar of single Buddha or any Devas.Everyone's true nature is Buddhahood, when one reach pinnacle of spritual growth then one became Buddha.Not only Hevajra Tantra all Buddhist Tantra start when Guru point out his disciple the( luminous chitta) Pravaswor chitta , that is the seed of every Buddhist Tantra and one use samatha and Vipassana together .But Hindu Tantra doesn't have these things ,it use recitation of mantra gradually and the 3 step of Hindu Tantra is 1)Dash aham 2)swoham 3) Naham but Buddhist tantra is not like that.If you close your door of sprituality and became radical then it is loss for once spritual growth.Every spritual seekers aim is to find out what is right ? not who is right? Buddha never accepted that one became Brahmins or chudra because of birth but one became Brahmin or chudra according to his deeds.According to Lord Buddha Brahmins are those who don't kill ,who don't lie, who don't steal , who don't do sexual misconduct, who don't get intoxicated and who are free from anger, jealousy ,hatred and always seeking for spritual growth.
@aryan.kapoor
@aryan.kapoor 3 жыл бұрын
@@urgenlama5418 he literally called himself avatar of lord Rama in dasratha jataka 🤦‍♀️
@urgenlama5418
@urgenlama5418 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryan.kapoor for your information there are more then 300 different type of Ramayan told in different part of world not just in India. In Dasrath jataka sita was a sister of Ram not wife and in that story he went to banaprastha to obey his father's decision .and after that he returened back. This story was popular around the world and later Balmiki wrote it and make Ram as incarnation of Vishnu at the time of sungha dynesty dynesty .
@aryan.kapoor
@aryan.kapoor 3 жыл бұрын
@@urgenlama5418 valmiki wrote it before buddha 🤦‍♀️
@venkatrajvardhanreddykonda9952
@venkatrajvardhanreddykonda9952 3 жыл бұрын
Budha never said anything about budhism it is his disciples who started saying it's different from Hinduism.He urged his disciples to follow five principles not start a religion by his name.The five principles of budhism were there in sanatan dharma from the beginning.
@muralianand4972
@muralianand4972 3 жыл бұрын
I was told by a local guide in Gaya that there is a Siva Lingam behind the Bothi Tree and is covered by cloth screen
@prmohanoneplus1714
@prmohanoneplus1714 2 жыл бұрын
Mr.Koenraad, you have rightly stated that a Jain Aggrawal would marry a Hindu Aggarwal but not a Jain Oswal.Similarly the Sikh castes marry freely with their corresponding Hindu castes but not with other castes within the Sikh society.Likewise in Tamilnadu, the Hindu and Christian Naadaars freely marry with each other and both of them consider each other as the same people.And surely this sort of relationship between people of different religions but of the same caste is likely to be more extensive throughout the country.At the least there would be affinity between two peoples of different religions but of the same caste.This makes it abundantly clear that the so called castes in this country are in reality TRIBES.But you are are referring to them as castes of the Hindu social order.When the so called castes are definitely transcending the Hindu religion, how can they be referred to as belonging to the Hindu Varna Vyavastha (Social order)?
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the early champions of Buddhism were Indo-Greek and Greco-Bactrian kings like Menander(Malindi) and the first statues of the Buddha and other Buddhist identities were in the Greek style of Gandhara and Taxila.One Indian ruler sent letters to leading Greek world rulers including Ptolemaic Egypt urging them to look at Buddhist teachings.There is a possibility that Buddhist thought influenced early Christianity and Christian monasticism could have been inspired by Buddhist monasticism.
@thedn3164
@thedn3164 Жыл бұрын
Bhuddism as a religion was started 300 years after demise of gautam buddha. Until then it was only teaching principles
@kaustabhsingharoy5403
@kaustabhsingharoy5403 2 жыл бұрын
If there is no self then what will reincarnate?
@silberlinie
@silberlinie 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Koenraad Elst ist eine wahre Quelle des Wissens für den Interessierten. Hail Koenraad.
@bloodshedthehuman
@bloodshedthehuman 3 жыл бұрын
DEBUNKING SOME MYTHS AND MISCONCEPTIONS PREVALENT IN INDIAN SUB-CONTINENT ABOUT BUDDHA DHARMA "A corollary to the above misconception is that the Buddha actually taught what was in the Vedas but his disciples either did not understand his teaching or distorted them. An aspect of the above mentioned misconception has already been shown as totally absurd. But there is another aspect which needs to be dealt with. As the Buddha's immediate disciples had experienced in their own mental continuum what the Buddha meant, there could not possibly have been any distortion. And as the living enlightened lineages continue to date, which means that each generation experienced in their mental continuum, the exact meaning of the Buddha's teachings, to claim that the Buddhists distorted the Buddha's teachings and that's why it has become so different from the Vedic teachings, is the height of naivety. And this brings us to another similar misconception about Buddhism. Most Hindu scholars, or otherwise, would like to believe that the Buddhism is a branch of Hinduism. This misunderstanding is rampant amongst educated Hindus and is a correlate of the story fabricated in the 16th century and later in the Shiva Purana and its likes, that the Buddha was an incarnation of Visnu. First of all Hinduism as it is known today did not exist at the time of the Buddha, so there can be no question about Buddhism being a branch of Hinduism. In fact, according to historical records and anthropological studies, what we call Hinduism is 75% derived from Buddhism and is the offspring of the impact of Buddhism on the Brahmanic system. What existed in the Buddha's time was a form of Brahmanism that was quite different from what is known as Hinduism today. From ancient times there were two streams of spiritual quest in the Indian sub-continent. One was Sramanism and the other was Vedic Brahmanism. These two streams did interact with each other as is seen clearly in the Upanishads of the Brahmanic systems and the sutras of the Buddhists and Jains who were both members of the sramanic system. It should be kept in mind that both the Buddha and Mahavir called themselves Mahasramans, which is a clear indication that they did not subscribe to the Brahmanic systems. In one of the most famous mantras of Buddhism 'ye dharma hetu prabaha hetustathagato hyevadat tesancha yo nirodho evam badi mahasramana, Aswajit, the famous Brahmin disciple of the Buddha called the Buddha Mahasramana. Sramanism was probably older than the Vedic Brahmanism that, according to many historians came into India when the Indo-Aryans transmigrated into the Indian sub-continent, from Central Asia. But there are many who do not agree to this view. However, Sramanism is definitely an indigenous spiritual tradition of the Indian subcontinent, and there is no two thoughts about this. We see the transactions between the Sramans and Brahmins in the Brihadaranyak Upanishad 3.6.1 where we find Gargi (who is often vaunted as the daughter of Nepal) challenging the Brahmin Yagyavalkya. We know that Gargi was a Sraman by the fact that she stuck a twig of the rose-apple (Jambu tree) as a sign of challenge. And also the style of questioning of Gargi is a shade different from the questions put forth by the many other Brahmins in that same text. The Brihadaranyak is thought to be at least 2-3 hundred years older than the Buddha if not older. So Sramanism was an equally old (if not older) stream of spiritual system as Brahmanism and the Buddha has clearly called himself Mahasraman. This would clearly imply that Buddhism is definitely not an off-shoot of Brahmanism, what to speak of Hinduism which is a product of Brahmanism's interaction with Buddhism and thus something that developed in the Indian sub-continent after the Buddha. We could give scholastic quotes to validate this but it's not necessary in an article like this. Vedic Brahmanism metamorphosed drastically due to the catalytic influence of Buddhism and others and became the multifarious system under the generic name of Hinduism. But of course, we cannot say that Buddhism was not influenced by Vedic Brahmanism and later Hinduism at all. That would be too naïve. However, in the give and take which is inevitable in any culture within a space of time (and Buddhism covered 75% of India and 75% Asia for sixteen or so hundred years), it was Hinduism which took mostly from Buddhism and not the other way around. Another interrelated myth is that it was Sankaracharya who defeated the Buddhists all over India and that is how Buddhism vanished from India, or as the former President of India Dr. Radhakrishnan Sarvapulli put it, Hinduism embraced Buddhism and in the process killed it. Again these are myths running wild amongst Hindus of the Indian sub-continent; but they do not have any historical validity. This notion is given further credence to Nepalese, including Buddhist Newars by the Newari legend that Sankaracharya came to Nepal and defeated all the Buddhists, converted the kings and beheaded the Bhikchhus. First of all the Adi Sankaracharya was around the 7th century and great Mahavihars like Nalanda and Bikramashila were still running strong till the 12th /13th century when the Muslims over ran India and destroyed them. Secondly there were still Mahasiddhas like Naropa, Tilopa and many others till the Muslim invasion. So, Buddhism was still running strong five century after Adi Sankaracharya. And furthermore, the stories of Sankaracharya as written by Ananda Giri and Madhava etc. do not contain any element which mentions that he debated with the Buddhists all over India and defeated them. In fact those stories show Sankaracharya debating mostly with other non-advaita Hindus and rarely with the Buddhist. So, the misconception that Sankaracharya went up and down India defeating all the Buddhists and this is how Buddhism vanished from India seems to be baseless and fabricated by uneducated Non-Buddhists. Thirdly, the Sankaracharya that came to Nepal seems to be of the 11th-12th century or later and not the Adi Sankaracharya. He seems to have entered Nepal when Buddhism was beginning to decline in Nepal as a result of its having declined in India due to the Islamic invasion which literally destroyed Buddhism in India. So he did not find any match for his debates and was able to convert many people in Kathmandu. He may possibly be the same Harinanda who was defeated by the Great Tibetan Guru Sakya Pandit. However this is not conclusive. But the stories do say he died in Tibet. However he did not die before he created havoc amongst the Buddhists of Kathmandu Valley, who still do not seem to have recovered from the shock. Big learning houses like Nalanda, Bikramashila etc were raised to the ground and the monks beheaded and the books in the libraries burnt to cinders by the Islamic invaders like Bakhtiar, Khilji etc. It is said in the diary of Khilji's general that, the books of the library of Nalanda took six months for the cinders to settle down and nine months for the smoke to settle down. So much destruction took place all over the Indian subcontinent. It said one of the reasons why the Buddhist monasteries were specially picked out by the Islamic invaders is that they mistook the monks in uniform monk dress as uniformed army men and the books in the library as books on warfare et al. This happened in the 12th/13th century, almost 5 centuries after Sankaracharya. Till then Buddhism was still flourishing strong in the Indian subcontinent." Excerpted from "Marshland Flowers," by Vidhyadhara Acarya Mahayogi Shridhar Rana Rinpoche.
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
Joint Communiqué by Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Satya Narayan Goenkaji. The Maha Bodhi Society Office, Sarnath, Varanasi. 3:30 p.m., 11 November 1999 This joint communiqué is being issued after the cordial talk between Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Guruji Shri Satyanarayana Goenkaji. Both agree and wish that there should be harmonious and friendly relations between both ancient (the Vedic and the Ṣramana) traditions. If there has been any misconception in this matter in the minds of the people of the neighbouring countries, it should be removed at the earliest. The following was agreed: 1. Due to whatever reason some literature was written (in India) in the past in which the Buddha was declared to be a reincarnation of Vishnu and various things were written about him. This was very unpleasant to the neighbouring countries. In order to foster friendlier ties between the two communities we decide that whatever has happened in the past (cannot be undone, but) should be forgotten and such beliefs should not be propagated. 2. A misconception has spread in the neighbouring countries that the Hindu society of India is organising such conferences to prove its dominance over the followers of the Buddha. To forever remove this misconception we declare that both Vedic and Ṣramana traditions are ancient traditions of India. Both have their own prestigious existence. Any attempt by one tradition to show itself higher than the other will only generate hatred and ill will between the two. Hence such a thing should not be done in the future and both traditions should be accorded equal respect and esteem. 3. Anybody can attain a high position in the society by doing good deeds. One becomes a low (person in society) if one does evil deeds. Hence anybody can-by doing good deeds and removing the defilements such as passion, anger, arrogance, ignorance, greed, jealousy and ego-attain a high position in society and enjoy peace and happiness. We agree on all the three things mentioned above and wish that all the people of India from all the traditions should have cordial relations and the neighbouring countries should also have friendly relations with India.
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
Joint Communiqué by Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Satya Narayan Goenkaji. The Maha Bodhi Society Office, Sarnath, Varanasi. 3:30 p.m., 11 November 1999 This joint communiqué is being issued after the cordial talk between Jagadguru Shankaracharya Shri Jayendra Saraswatiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Pith and Vipassanacharya Guruji Shri Satyanarayana Goenkaji. Both agree and wish that there should be harmonious and friendly relations between both ancient (the Vedic and the Ṣramana) traditions. If there has been any misconception in this matter in the minds of the people of the neighbouring countries, it should be removed at the earliest. The following was agreed: 1. Due to whatever reason some literature was written (in India) in the past in which the Buddha was declared to be a reincarnation of Vishnu and various things were written about him. This was very unpleasant to the neighbouring countries. In order to foster friendlier ties between the two communities we decide that whatever has happened in the past (cannot be undone, but) should be forgotten and such beliefs should not be propagated. 2. A misconception has spread in the neighbouring countries that the Hindu society of India is organising such conferences to prove its dominance over the followers of the Buddha. To forever remove this misconception we declare that both Vedic and Ṣramana traditions are ancient traditions of India. Both have their own prestigious existence. Any attempt by one tradition to show itself higher than the other will only generate hatred and ill will between the two. Hence such a thing should not be done in the future and both traditions should be accorded equal respect and esteem. 3. Anybody can attain a high position in the society by doing good deeds. One becomes a low (person in society) if one does evil deeds. Hence anybody can-by doing good deeds and removing the defilements such as passion, anger, arrogance, ignorance, greed, jealousy and ego-attain a high position in society and enjoy peace and happiness. We agree on all the three things mentioned above and wish that all the people of India from all the traditions should have cordial relations and the neighbouring countries should also have friendly relations with India.
@loknathsarkar4284
@loknathsarkar4284 3 жыл бұрын
Plz hindi main dubing kr dijiye
@vasukinagabhushan
@vasukinagabhushan 3 жыл бұрын
In ancient India, both Braahmana and Shramana existed together. Krishna's cousin Neminatha was a Jain Theerthankara.
@tharunkumar282
@tharunkumar282 3 жыл бұрын
How he can say rebel against vedic tradition as Vedic root? For some people everything in the world is Vedic. Buddha did not believe in Atman which is fundamental of Vedic tradition.
@punyashloka4946
@punyashloka4946 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense many things in Buddhism has vedic roots , at the same time many things are not why you people make things complicated unnecessary? And Buddha himself was a kshatriya remember.
@alpeshmittal3779
@alpeshmittal3779 3 жыл бұрын
How the hell buddha was decendent of manu and relative of Rama?
@anandsai9378
@anandsai9378 3 жыл бұрын
Buddha was born in the same family of Rāma - Ikshvaaku
@alok9307
@alok9307 2 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 rama never born!😂
@anandsai9378
@anandsai9378 2 жыл бұрын
@@alok9307 The descendents of Rāma, the rulers of Raghu dynasty, branched off and formed Kingdom of Kapilavastu, in which Buddha was born. If Ram was a myth, then Buddha is too...!
@marshmellow1162
@marshmellow1162 2 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 buddha was a hist0rical character while r@m@ was a imagination
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@anandsai9378 Rama is historical but there are so many Ramayanas so many single word or line of Buddha in praise of Rama.
@rekha2506
@rekha2506 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Aarya one of 108 names of Devi Durga ?
@prasadpalaparthi3463
@prasadpalaparthi3463 8 ай бұрын
👣👣👣🇮🇳🙏👏 जय् हो भारत् माता की जय् हो|| वन्देऽहमम्बे भारती देव्यै|| वन्दे मातरम् | जै हिन्द् |
@AlphaQ922
@AlphaQ922 3 жыл бұрын
Buddha rejected the Vedas or at least the karma Khanda or the ritualistic practices and sacrifices. In that sense, there is similarity with Advaita Vedānta..but the critical difference is in the concept of an anatma.. the non- self. Whether Buddha rejected the Hindu notion of atma or the notion of individual self , is uncertain. In Advaita Vedānta, the concept of individual jiva or atma is negated and the ultimate conclusion is that God alone exists. Given Buddha’s teachings on impermanence , I believe that Buddha meant to emphasise the concept of individual soul, which is often linked to the ego.
@mukundshamlalshamlal5959
@mukundshamlalshamlal5959 3 жыл бұрын
I have learned learned that the Veds are body of knowledge of vigyaan (विज्यान) and the question of diety does not arise. If you would consult Vedic Vigyaan , compilled - written by Rishi Agnivrat. Please consult the qualified teacher. We have been using our limited tools to measure the unmeasurable entity. Thanks for your efforts in bringing some clarify. This process is termed (विचार करें) intelligent thinking process. धन्यवाद।
@jaybarua7095
@jaybarua7095 Жыл бұрын
It is important to distinguish "jati" and "varna" from "caste", the latter being an European term to describe what was prevalent there (royalty, nobility, serfs, tradespeople etc) which were birth-based and hereditary. Varna was definitely NOT heredity and was based on occupation, making it normal for people to switch their varna if they wanted as is abundantly clear from our history of shudras who were kings and even became Brahmins. Of course, it is also normal for families to protect their knowledge and skills with parents passing on these to their offspring but it was not compulsory. The varna system in its original form is the most perfect social system on earth, giving a respected place to everyone regardless of occupation. Jati was bloodline management which ensured that there was no inbreeding. It is easy at least for me to believe that this social system is indeed God ordained, a revealed wisdom.
@veena727
@veena727 3 жыл бұрын
We are made to study that Buddha darshana did not believe in Vedas, Atma etcc
@ankitanand8211
@ankitanand8211 3 жыл бұрын
Which is false
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@ankitanand8211 True. Buddha rejected both Vedas as well as Atma... Read Tevijja Sutta...
@sanilyadav1450
@sanilyadav1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@ankitanand8211 True. Buddha rejected both Vedas as well as Atma... Read Tevijja Sutta...
@whoareyou-jb3wo
@whoareyou-jb3wo 3 жыл бұрын
🍒🍒🍒🙏🙏
@drumstick-marblebag
@drumstick-marblebag 3 жыл бұрын
If Buddha was Hindu then Buddhists should proudly call themselves Hindu or Sanatan Dharmi. Buddhists should not fight Hindu in Bhutan or Sri lanka.
@marshmellow1162
@marshmellow1162 2 жыл бұрын
h--indus belives but not b--uddhist
@nelpagdilao1760
@nelpagdilao1760 2 жыл бұрын
We dont bother what other people think, BUDDA is an Avatar of Lord Visnu, alike, Lord Nisimhadev, Lord Parshurama, Lord Rama etc.
@tesstess7005
@tesstess7005 3 жыл бұрын
please don't say every religion teach the same thing lord buddhas teaching is way different from other spiritual leaders teaching
@blackpole5936
@blackpole5936 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is same only difference is that Lord Buddha denied the theory of God!!!!
@jososojo4659
@jososojo4659 Жыл бұрын
Perennial philosophical motivated activism is complex and over millenia well documented. It is not without reason that Buddha, Buddhist philosophers choose separation insteadt of integration in Hinduism (anachronistic), for the benefit of his deciples. The history shows, integration blurres all contours away.
@otakarkuby3926
@otakarkuby3926 3 жыл бұрын
It is wholey arrogant of the individual or doctorine to state if you are not for me, then you are against me. this sort of thinking makes enemies of everyone.
@NoshNams
@NoshNams 2 жыл бұрын
Are you Living in India and may we get connected
@satishpatel5260
@satishpatel5260 2 жыл бұрын
originall name of INDIA is BHARAT (SANSKRIT)as today is still BHARAT 🔱🙏
@suchindranathaiyer494
@suchindranathaiyer494 2 жыл бұрын
There was no such things as "Hindu" in those days. Hindu was merely a nomenclature given by the Persians (Vedai or pre Zoroastrian / Avesthan) for their co religionists of the Indus Valley until it was turned into a legal fiction of convenience by the British and their successors to describe the myriad native religions and civilizations that did not belong to book based Middle Eastern cults. The "Booder" was an Arya of the Gautama Gothra and belonged to Kshatriya Varna until his renunciation and adoption of Sanyasa. The Booder did not proselytize. He did not even affirm or deny the existence of Brahma. His Brahmana disciples carried their own messages wrapped up as Budhism to proselytize people to a core of Brahmanism wrapped around with each disciple's own beliefs and local mythology. e.g. Kashyapa from the Pallava Kingdom to China (Bodhidharma) , Koushika from the Vanga Kingdom to Tibet (Padmasambhava) and Bharadhwaja from the Kingdom of Tibet (Potala) to Japan.
@MS-ov9sv
@MS-ov9sv 3 жыл бұрын
Koenraad Sir's knowledge is astounding and a great oppty to learn for us
@withoutcrux
@withoutcrux 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Buddha thought like this?
@lokeshk4642
@lokeshk4642 3 жыл бұрын
The Christian Missionaries created this rumor that Buddha hated Hinduism and was not follow the religion. The reason being is that Hinduism is a competition to Christianity as there are Gods in Hinduism but in Buddhism there is no god. Buddha lived as a Hindu and died as a Hindu. He was cremated as as per Hindu tradition! The religion Buddhism started around 100 years after the death Buddha.
@melodicnostalgic3823
@melodicnostalgic3823 3 жыл бұрын
Its not Christians but Communist in India. Most Dalits converted to Buddhism so they found a reason to divide Hinduism and Buddhism by portraying as if Buddha was Anti Hindu.
@lokeshk4642
@lokeshk4642 3 жыл бұрын
It is Christian Missionaries/ Evangelists not Christians. I have Christian friends and they are not like the Christian Missionaries. Communists are involved too. If you ask an average American about Hinduism, all they know is the 4 castes and Dalit discrimination. According to average Americans, all the popular and proven things like Yoga, Ayurveda, Concepts like Karma, rebirth etc. etc. were originated by Buddhists - this publicity is not done by Buddhists rather Christian missionaries/ Evangelists.
@sparijat
@sparijat 3 жыл бұрын
? Indra Jal = Maya Jal It is a Hindu belief that Brahm is in everything in every being.
@mrindian8
@mrindian8 Жыл бұрын
IF ANYBODY FOLLOW SANATANA DHARMA PROPERLY, ANYBODY CAN GET WISDOM.. ONLY HINDUISM ALLOW THE COEXISTENCE OF ALL FAITH. THIS IS OUR STRENGTH AND THIS IS THE WEEKNESS ALSO!
@vasukinagabhushan
@vasukinagabhushan Жыл бұрын
Most ancient Indian texts called our leaders as Aryan.
@enjoyparents
@enjoyparents 2 жыл бұрын
Partly agree , partly not . With due respect to Konradji , Buddha came after MAHABHARAT, after Bhagwat Geeta was delivered by Shri Krishna, & that is absolutely clear if one reads MAHABHARAT IN ITS DETAILS in originality , not just opinions of others. Buddha's socio political environment describes how BUDDHA WAS WAY WAY AFTER MAHABHARAT. SECONDLY VEDA IS LIKE A SEED , WHICH HAS A SILENT POTENTIAL TO GROW INTO DRASTICALLY HUGE TREE WITH 100,000 BRANCHES. THUS SAYING VED DOES NOT EXPLAIN FEMALE GODDESES Because in VED , only AATMA is the goal or is in consideration .the gender description n discretion comes very very later state when humans started differentiating it that way . In VED genders are just like "clothes" that AATMA wears on earth . "Knowledge" is only n only in consideration in VED not gender based divinity , which came at a later stage , when darshana , upanishdas , puranas etc came into being .
@chilarai1
@chilarai1 Жыл бұрын
Of all the world's faiths, ONLY the faiths that were born in present day India subscribe to the concepts of karma, dharma, moksha and reincarnation as fact, not belief. Nobody else comes close. The "Hindu" religions include Vaishnavism, Shaktisim, Shaivism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and countless other "isms" stretching from Afghanistan, Tibet , Mongolia, China, Korea, Japan ,to Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand and Cambodia. I apologize to any peoples I have not mentioned.
@narayanprasad4008
@narayanprasad4008 Жыл бұрын
Mr.Elst explains Buddhism more honestly than the rabid pseudo Ambedkarites who have mangled up his teachings to suit their ideology . Buddhism was never confrontational with Hinduism . It offered another pathway to self realization.
@mikesheth5370
@mikesheth5370 2 жыл бұрын
Lot before Muslims Persians of Darayush time were calling people who lived on other side of Sindhu Hindu. Persians pronounce S as H.
@alfredpennyworth177
@alfredpennyworth177 3 жыл бұрын
The comment section proves that not everyone deserves knowledge. If u r looking for knowledge then try to learn more and more. Don't fight one another. A Little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
@akshaydevdattamalvankar
@akshaydevdattamalvankar 3 жыл бұрын
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