AS GOOD AS TECHNICS!? Audio Technica AT-LP140XP RECORD PLAYER Review

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

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[@coloradoklutch8005]

I think the most important component in a turntable setup is the preamp. This is due to one issue: woofer pumping! If the preamp does not have a subsonic filter, the woofers WILL pump and that negatively affects bass response as well as being hard on the woofers. Also, the reality is if your receiver or preamp is not high end, the onboard phono preamp is going to be pretty lousy. I have a Fluance turntable and a separate, Fluance preamp. No, it's not the best available phone preamp, but I really like the fact that it has a manual switch allowing me to turn the subsonic filter on or off. A few albums won't need the subsonic filter, but the vast majority will. Yeah, I've read and heard all the supposed resolutions for woofer pumping. I have my turntable on a suspension platform resting on raquetballs. I still get woofer pumping! The only solution that's ever worked for me, with multiple turntables and multiple amps, is a subsonic filter.

[@jtavegia5845]

The most important is the tonearm bearings and can the arm totally free float on and down, left and right when set to zero static balance. 2nd would be can you set the tracking force accurately by the TT MFG recomendations? 3rd would be can the anti-skate be set accurately in relation to the tracking force. This was an problem in some older 120's that the anti skating did not work properly, but I understand that has been corrected by AT. since the table is DD and has quartz lock I would be pretty sure the speed would be right on and stable. The owner then just has to me sure using a bubble level that the table is flat even in every direction.

[@wizardmix]

Assuming it's an optimum working turntable and there's one component to upgrade: cartridge, all day long. I put a 2M Blue on an old Kenwood KD-550 and it was a shocking improvement. They can be expensive little things but so are mics used to make a good recording. What's an ear without a good working eardrum? That's what a cartridge is to a turntable.

[@jtavegia5845]

@@wizardmix I have 12 mics in my mic cabinet and they all are for different instruments and venues. Can't use omni's in a venue that very high ambient noise from HVAC or outdoor traffic that leaks in. Many female vocals need a mic with less top end. the overall condition and tune of a piano will help decide which mics I put at C3 and C5, 8-10" about the dampers, with a LR spread at 10 O'clock and 2 O'clock for a nice, full presentation. All of these decisions are as important as what the artist(s) do. I don't want to be the reason the sounds is not the best.

[@manFromPeterborough]

@@coloradoklutch8005 The cheap TC-750 & 778 preamps have full time sub filters in them, I sold the Cord phono because of woofer pump crap, slight warps cause this problem

[@ju1cycrackfa1ry]

The snobbery in the comments is really toxic in here, not everyone can justify spending 1800 on a turntable just to be extra pretentious about music

[@pointsbeingmade7996]

Agreed.

[@RUfromthe40s]

@@pointsbeingmade7996 there are second hand ones with low usage with 50€ of maintenance are perfect and maybe better than a $1800 new turntable ,i saw them and look very week and very easy to catch vibrations from everything else or just when you put the volume up a bit at the end of 3 tracks the vibration is impossible to bear, regards and stay safe

[@pointsbeingmade7996]

@@RUfromthe40s correct as well. I have owned a technics 1700 1200 mk 2 and am buying a p5 from rega. At is good 2z Its not about money you can get great valurnorna with used new break as well

[@RUfromthe40s]

@@pointsbeingmade7996 my point is that i´ve seen some turntables being sold by a lot of money and they are not good turntables they might have great reading capacity ,like i saw a pro-ject with a stylus that cost 300€ and all the turntable is expensive taking in consideration that as nothing to work good either than the stylus but i with a 20€ stylus and a 40 year old turntable have more quality in sound than this pro-ject a friend of mine bought it as no cover, no pre-amp basically nothing either than the rotating plate and a good stylus but when he puts the volume up the sound is average and due to vibration of the bass in 7 minuts the sound becomes distorted , i´ve worked with a lot of power and had just the SL-1200MKII but it worked , this seems to be a joke and i´m using an old shure stylus, that were the best before in late 80´s appear the first proper needles for dj work , some bought technics turntables and just after ,they change the stylus for a more fashionable one ,this not hearing the technics provided stylus that were incredible good,now there´s a new turntable sold by technics that i was curious to see what kind of turntable was but either than being expensive they are just like the sl-1000 MKI and MKII , they are not available that much in used turntables because they were expensive at the time but the diference between that and a lower model like the SL-3300 provided stylus is almost unheardable, and the same as in the SL-1700 or 1500 from difrerent years, as in today the use of equalizer is not seen with good eyes but it was a must have in the 70´s this because some diferences in record production might be improved with the correct use of the equalizer not as i saw here on youtube a guy that has almost everything pioneer released and connects 3 equalizers that are good and powerfull in the change of frequencies but are all conected in series and all with a V shape that makes any equipment sound bad ,this to also refer that one equalizer steals it´s range from the other so one only would be better and when playing a cassette he says that with the 3 equalizers all cassettes sound good ,it sounded better if he didn´t had no equalizer conected to the amplifier ,this guy as some HPM´s but the ones released after it´s creator changed to JBL so they are not as good as the original HPM´s ,like the HPM-1500 wich look big but are not as good as the older HPM-150, today technics releases a mix of old parts and a SL-1000r comes out as a new turntable with a nice price tag along wich most of the people doesn´t have that kind of money to spend in a turntable ,they were already expensive in late 70´s but then it was an improvement ,today it´s a way of making money having a lot of people from a lot of diferent countries trying it as if it was a new experience, but it´s just more of the same with a new improved look or more fashionable than the old look , 7 years ago they were cheaper but now almost all old material disapeared from Ebay, and prices are over the moon. Regards and stay safe

[@pointsbeingmade7996]

@@RUfromthe40s so mant great points. You are awesome. Knowledge!

[@martinmerino3272]

Hell yeah more turntable reviews! More cartridge reviews and comparisons in the future? Thanks for your work guys!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@laurelhardy4064]

Thank you Andrew, you are one the very few reviewers that have the guts to admit that a $400 turntable can sound as good as a turntable costing ten times as much, you tell it as you hear it, minus the BS, well done.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thanks. I honestly went into this review with ZERO expectations, nevertheless, once I swapped out the cartridges I really didn't detect much, if any, differences. Build quality, now that's a whole other argument, in which case Technics has it over Audio Technica in a big way. But if you don't want to splurge on material, the AT is as good as an equally configured Technics IMHO.

[@MrPompanoman]

Hilarious roflmfao

[@ElectromaticG5120]

I’d really like to see you test the AT LP7. You are the clearest reviewer of hi-fi and also honest about negative aspects.

[@drkevintan]

Answer to your QOTD: From my experience, the most important components are the cartridge and phono preamp. The turntable is important in establishing pitch stability and accuracy and generally speaking, budget direct drive ones have done this better than belt-driven turntables provided you can eliminate the notorious motor hum. You also need a decent tone-arm with the necessary adjustments to allow your turntable to take on better cartridges so fixed arms with no vertical height adjustments or headshells with no azimuth alignment make it really difficult to swap cartridges around (eg when playing mono cartridges on mono lps). I have played around with many different cartridges and provided you can match their impedences with the phono preamp, you can really optimise their sound quality. Changes in cartridges make the most improvement in sound quality, IMO.

[@CarattiniGarage]

Thanks! Hi Andrew: After research and this video, I purchased this AT-LP140XP table. I'm considering Exchanging it for the AT-LP1240 difference in price today is $100 and is heavier Have a Preamp and USB also the light for the stylus can be pointed to the stylus not like AT-LP140XP that is fixed and don't even point the correct way. I really don't need all the DJ stuff but for the price I think is worth it. also, the removal of the cover for listening is easier since have no hinges. What are your thoughts about this? I will not lose any money since I can return the AT-LP140XP no charge and just buy the AT-LP1240.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Appreciate your support and apologize for my late reply, but if you think the newer AT table is better for you, then I see no reason not to get it over the LP-140XP here. I have no direct experience with the 1240, but if you like its features better, go for it!

[@rick3747]

Old school stereo fan here..... I love my 1970s Technics, Dual and ADC turntables. All have been rebuilt mostly by me and all work great with Grado, Ortofon or Shure cart......

[@LegoBeast11211]

Great video, thanks Andrew! I just purchased a 140XP yesterday from my local record shop and traded in my Stanton T.62. The Stanton was built like a tank, but has a short tonearm that really affected the sound on the inner groves. What attracted me to the 140XP was the similar feature set that my TT had like the easy head-shell replacement, powerful direct drive motor, pitch control, but with a longer S shaped tone arm and antiskate which the Stanton lacked. Today I will set it up with my trusty vintage Shure M91ED cart and get spinning!

[@richardbixler]

Preamp 100% especially a good tube preamp, they can bring warmth and remove any harshness from almost any bad record. Bad record meaning, condition and/or mastering.

[@darrellwoods5961]

I own a Audio Technica at-lp140xp Black. I done every Mod I could find on KZbin to my Audio Technica at-lp140. And I use a At VM95LM Cartridge. Turned this thing into a Really REALLY good sounding Turntable!

[@danfarkaswannabe]

Can i ask what antiskate value you use. After years of experience I’m at a loss with this table. Can’t seem to get it right. It’s really strong.

[@dave-874]

@@danfarkaswannabe No you May not ask🤷‍♀️.

[@tur74d56]

@@danfarkaswannabe I had this problem , mine is set low 1.3 even tho it’s 2 gram, let the arm sit in the middle , I find that works

[@funklat1]

Curious to know what modifications have you done

[@ClayMationNation]

I had this turntable, and now I have the PLX 1000 Pioneer. I recommend giving the PLX 1000 a try, it's leaps and bounds better than any AT table. I am blown away by it thus far.

[@reallybigair]

I have a Pioneer PLX 1000 w/Audio Technica AT-VM740ML cartridge (and also an Ortofon Concorde MkII MIX DJ Cartridge). The PLX 1000/VM740ML combination is very good. Easily outperformed my previous Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB w/Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge.

[@MrCardboard00]

That's double the price though...

[@ClayMationNation]

@@MrCardboard00 I paid only 200 more than I paid for the at140 and it sounds as good as a technics 1200. The problem I had with the AT model right out of the box was a wobbly platter and so it poisoned me against getting anything else from them although I do have one of their belt drives sitting and collecting dust which was better than the 140 imo

[@sclearance58]

Just bought my AT 140 XP and set it up. Waiting for my 1973 Fisher receiver with 8 track! Green back lit is really pretty! I am 62 and have been a stereo freak for years! I just through staging a piece in my master suite. Every piece of furniture is silver with four lamps, vanity table , bed nightstand , dresser, armoire, chest of drawers, etc. These two rooms are quite beautiful, so I have to show case the Audio Technica and boy did I! I like the way you stage your Equipment ! Thanks Andrew ! I love the Californians on SNL! Iived in CA in the late 70s, and they do talk like that! Valley 👧! Lol!

[@antigravityworkshop1436]

I have 2 140s I use as a mobile DJ. I upgraded the cartridges. They are quite rugged and meet my needs well. I love them!

[@12_inch_spinnerz]

Any Motor noise ? Does the anti skate work properly?

[@HowzitUSA]

I have the 140 and have tried a bunch of cartridges from Ortofon 2m red, A-T VM95, A-T 95E & Grado and so far I love the... ...XP3 that comes standard with the TT. So if all you have is $400 you won’t go wrong with the 140 as is.

[@rael2099]

XP cartidges and styluses are DJ oriented though, and they weigh 1 gram more and can be hard on your records. The weight difference is located on the stylus so the cartridge is perfect as it is. What I will do once my 140 arrives is to keep the XP cartridge (higher volume output) swap the XP3 stylus for a VM95E and or a VM95ML for better sound quality and durability. Endless possibilities.

[@jonuiuc]

The thing with spending money on a good cartridge like this up front is the cartridge wears out relatively fast compared to the rest of the deck. If you allot the money up front to a nicer table with better bearing, drive and tonarm with less play, you'll have those attributes the whole time. With identical usage, both this scenario and say the 1500c their cartridges will need to be replaced at the same time, and when that happens and you re up a $500 ortefon black now both the tables will have the same cartridge but one will still have worse build. I guess if you can live with build for life vs living with a worse initial cartridge, it sorta makes sense, but it's not like you save any money.

[@JulizzetteColonBilbrautEsq]

Great start! Saw this review with my dad who is an old school vinyl enthusiast. He loved it!

[@earlflynn9373]

The XP5 or XP7 are better cartridges but they cost a little. I upgraded to the XP5 and the performance is amazing rather if I'm scratching or just listening

[@huskylvr4evr]

Just got mine today and put in an order for the 2m blue. Love it...thanks for the video review.

[@familiedejonge6813]

Another cheap trick, replace the felt mat for a rubber one, for example the Technics RGS0008. And after that, adjust the height of te tonearm, to compensate the difference between the two. Rubber mat if you‘re not using this tt for scratching purposes off course.

[@hotrodder5034]

I had two Technics 1200s for years and sold them years ago when I lost my job! Now I am kicking myself!! I have tons of vinyl I want to get reacquainted with! I am looking at get this turntable.

[@briankemp2290]

I have a pair of Reloop RP7000. These things are really good. I own a pair SL's but the torque on the RP is better.

[@michaelpaulfx]

I love this turntable! I’ve owned a pair for almost about 7 months. I recommend them to both my DJ friends and my Hifi friends. I feel like these never get talked about and Audio Technica doesn’t really market them. Even in the DJ community it seems like people just don’t even know these exist or know nothing about why they are so good. Thank you for your review and shining a bit more light on these sleeping giants!

[@pointsbeingmade7996]

I have the lp2x and I want to uppgrade to it eventually.

[@johntocho8954]

Thank you Andrew! Your review came at the most timely moment for me. To get back into 2-channel stereo listening after way too long with my modest budget, your reviews have been wonderful and extremely helpful. I bought the Sony at Best Buy for $99 and was pleased to watch your review 2 weeks later, will upgrade in a year or more. Decided to spend most of my Christmas budget on speakers, so I bought the Klipsch RP-600M which I just love, the Heresey IV's someday. And I am right at the decision point for a turntable. So thank you for covering the range of options, I really appreciate your review and thoughts! Wish you guys the very best in 2021, you deserve every success and happiness!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you so much! We appreciate you watching.

[@johntocho8954]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews And as of right now, I am a Mid-Level subscriber. Thank you again Andrew!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

So kind of you! THANK YOU! Kristi and I really appreciate it.

[@rogeregisley9221]

Very good review, which clearly explains that despite a massive price difference between the Technics SL1200 GAE & the Audio Technica AT-LP140XP turntables, that it is possible to get a similar high quality sound performance, if the same high quality cartridge is installed on both decks. This review confirms what I had already found out using Technics SL1200gr and Reloop RP7000 Mk2 turntables ( both tweaked with platter mat, magnesium headshell & non resonant feet fitted ) with Audio Technica AT-VM95SH cartridges fitted to each of them, that the Reloop ( at 1/3 of the cost of the Technics ) is almost as capable of the same excellent sound quality. Audiophile snobs would probably take issue with this review for suggesting that a cartridge upgrade on a competent turntable may be more effective than upgrading to an expensive record deck.

[@cdr96mb]

Most important to me is the people I’m sharing the experience with! I have so many good memories shared with my wife and our vinyls

[@KristiWright]

You win the comments section today. Great answer!

[@cdr96mb]

@@KristiWright aww thanks!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I second Kristi's comment. You nailed it!

[@r423fplip]

It amazes me how music can impact on your life. My mum had the radio on constantly i can remember her singing " tie a yellow ribbon ' round ol ' oak tree " I was five years old. And load of vinyls she would play. I now have that same experience with my daughter, she is amazed by the fact a needle and a spinning disk can make music. And you goto love those gatefold sleeves.

[@jury28]

I stumbled on your channel by chance and boy what a find it was. Your reviews are clear and the production values are amazing. Based on your reviews I ended up getting the Fives and I have the Alva TT on back order. Thank you so much.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

So happy to have you around. That will be a great set up! Enjoy it!

[@juansolaresgalan]

Great to have you back, Andrew. Your insights are really helpful and, I must add, for a non native English speaker, I always learn to speak better listening to you. Always a pleasure watching your channel. Greetings from Guatemala, Central America.

[@gordondarling8408]

Being a club DJ of over 15 years I had to sell my Technics a couple of years ago when I moved home. Back in December I got my vinyl back from storage and decided tovget back into mixing purely for the hobby and decided with the moves other brands have made in TT quality to not buy Technics. Lots of reading and research later I took a punt on a pair of these, with less reviews bit liking the specs... 3 weeks in I have zero complaints... for mixing they feel exactly like my old SL1200mk2's for beatmatching, and even better for scratching. At the price point these are incredible for my needs.

[@gordondarling8408]

@@likeitizzz4713 Personally I wouldn't touch the Technics for serious scratching or turntablism and would rather go the SuperOEM route with a Pioneer PLX 1000 or Reloop RP7000. Yes Technics last 20-30 years but put it this way... you can buy a brand new one of these for 300 quid, or pay up to £500 for an second hand SL1200/1210, get it serviced (£100) and potentially have to repair it (tone arms are £180+ alone before the work is done). With regards to ease - they feel just like my old 1200mk2s I will say that if I were buying 5 years ago I would have looked for a 1200/1210mk2/3 when they were still relatively cheap, but the expense of buying second hand now is too high and these are very serviceable for home DJing and really affordable. Admittedly, I am gutted I had to sell my Technics but, but it's worth considering the TT technology has moved in leaps and bounds recently and not even Technics themselves can eep up (at least with their latest models not aimed at audiophiles).

[@adamyelle4901]

One thing I've found interesting is that so many people poo poo direct drive claiming that they are noisy. I've actually had the exact opposite experience. My project debut carbon (belt drive) has such terrible motor vibration that it's audible when you place your ear close to the table and it comes through in playback no matter what I do. Trust me I've tried every trick in the book and then some without being able to eliminate it completely. My old Technics table on the other hand (direct drive) has a 100% black background, dead silent. For someone who can't stand a high noise floor, my direct drive table wins everytime.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

Your post reminded me of an experience I had at a local shop a few years ago. At the time I had a Technics sl-d2 turntable which is an early 80's semi auto lower cost table. I had money burning a hole in my pocket and after doing a bit of research I was ready to pick up a Debut Carbon table. I went to the local shop and got talking to one of the guys there and instead of taking my money he asked me a bunch of questions. After a few minutes he told me that my Technics performs better than the Project and that what I was probably not hearing/hearing was limitations of the cartridge. I picked up a different cartridge and saved a bit of money. They developed a loyal customer.

[@manFromPeterborough]

The LP120 was notorios for motor noise

[@adamyelle4901]

@@manFromPeterborough Thanks for sharing that. I suppose I shouldn't generalize that all of one type is better than another. I just thought it was interesting that my experience was opposite what the general consensus in the hifi community seems to be.

[@manFromPeterborough]

@@adamyelle4901 I aloready knew the 120 have slight motor noise before I bought one, the 78 speed was the biggest deal maker, I thought the noise was mainly ambient, but is also audible through speakers on certain records (not all) and more so on headphones (I don't use phones, never tried them on the 120)

[@marvinjoosten8295]

I Have this one!! I'm so excited that you recommend it as well, makes it even a little more fun.

[@kingsun122]

This was my first turntable purchase. The review is spot on.

[@aussierob7177]

First the cartridge. Second the tonearm. Third the turntable suspension. Fourth the platter . Fifth the motor. I have a Pro-Ject magnetic suspension turntable fitted with a Hadcock uni-pivot tonearm and Denon high output moving coil cartridge.

[@zosojstro]

Great start to 2021 analog!! This TT is my list as a gift to my daughter to upgrade her vintage dual 1228. Love your channel.

[@septiseptimiu8287]

Since they make Technics in Malaysia quality dropped drastically, youtube videos showing so many issues with them are a solid prove! This determined me to buy the AT-LP140XP and i have no regrets, it is a wonderful made and solid turntable! 😉

[@davidsmisc1351]

I’d like to think the MK7 has something over the top-end Super OEM decks but I can’t really see it. Build and feel seems in line with a Pioneer PLX1000. The MK2 STILL feels like the ‘one to get’.

[@ralfwalter3923]

I'm pretty sure my SL-1210GR was made in Malaysia and it's a perfect turntable. No problems. My third 1200 and it's the best so far. Where are the issues? If you make the claim then show the facts. Unless it makes you feel better about your other purchase.

[@SpineTingler007]

@@ralfwalter3923 It's all over the internet. Do your own research. There are quality control issues and your perfect version is probably the majority of buyers. Many have platters that aren't flat with rubber isolation coming unglued.

[@jarms40]

Thrilled that the first review of the year is a turntable. Good show! As for the most important component, the phono preamp is key. Running a good cart on a well-designed ‘table with a tonearm that’s matched to the cart gets you half the way there. Cart set-up is also crucial. BUT the entire combo is producing an extremely tiny and delicate signal into the phono preamp. You absolutely have to have a good preamp to get the vinyl experience right. Frankly, you’re better running a budget cart into a solid preamp than vice versa.

[@thegoose3]

What preamps would you recommend

[@jarms40]

@@thegoose3 Schiit Mani is a solid budget recommendation. You've got to be ready to spend a lot more to get to the next level. My EAR 834P cost $700 back in the day and is a LOT MORE expensive now, sadly. The Parasound JC 3 Jr. is also great, but pricey.

[@danfarkaswannabe]

I love my atlp140xp but I can’t seem to get the antiskate right. It acts differently than any other turntable I own and seems to have a bad effect on sound. It seems to be really strong even at 0.25. Any help would be appreciated.

[@riezzkienhuis6962]

So I'm not the only one with this problem, if I set the anti-skating correctly, the arm shoots to the right when lifting. If I leave the anti skating at 1.2 then the arm goes straight up, but the weight of the arm is 2 grams so well I don't know either.

[@glock36me]

@@riezzkienhuis6962 so I don't know if this will be a solution for you but I use a Hudson Hi-Fi acrylic mat on my 140XP which helped greatly with static but that's another topic. Anyway, I turn the record player on and let the needle down in the middle of the acrylic platter (where the middle of the records grooves would be) and adjust the anti skate that way. You can clearly see the finite adjustment which makes it move towards the center or towards the outer edge. I've also seen people use a laser disc which is just an acrylic disc. Hope this may help you.

[@NiiOnLood]

Tonearm bearings may be too tight. I've seen an AT-LP140XP where tonearm lateral movement was pretty much restricted and jerky. I wouldn't order one from online shop unless you have a chance to physically check one yourself.

[@tur74d56]

@@riezzkienhuis6962I had this problem and you are right , set the tone arm on just over 2 grams and the anti ska at 1.2, this makes the arm sit still around the centre of the record , stops skipping and plays perfectly, I’ve got a Shibita stylus on , the best in the colours

[@ko-biko]

Have had this one for a while. Bought it over a used 1200 for listening and DJ use. Very happy with it and pretty sure I made the right choice! Glad you reviewed this.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Glad you tuned in! Thanks for watching!

[@andrewruiz5123]

Appreciate the real world review. Not all can afford expensive stuff. Thanks

[@larryplympton9727]

Love your content and presentation style, as well as the interactions with your wife, but I honestly think my favorite part has got to be the outtakes. Thank you both for all the hard work and effort you put into making these videos!

[@josemendezfr]

Been loving my LP140X since I bought it late 2020. Great combo with my Grado Black3.

[@frederikjacob1985]

I have been waiting for a review of this turntable for a long time! I got now an sl1410 mk1 with an ortofon concorde gold cartridge as my main tt in my hifi set up. I have been looking for a 1200 mk2 or 1200 gr. But the flaws on the gr and the price of a mint 1200 is making me to look for another more budget priced tt. This one. Thanks for the review! You made it a lot easier for me now!

[@pinkypoohable]

I have this turntable and everything Andrew said about it is true. It sounds warm top to bottom and has a smooth treble response with its free cartridge. When I replaced it with Audio Technica VM740ML cartridge boy it sounds way more better. Sound stage, instrument and channel separation has greatly improved. If sound is what you’re after, you don’t need a Technics just to have one. If prestige and heritage is important then go for it.

[@12_inch_spinnerz]

Have you had any issues with anitnskate issues or motor noise? I just ordered one of these and it arrives in a couple days, I've read reviews that the motor makes a grinding noise, but then again, those are 4 year old reviews

[@edwestfall2732]

The Phono-Cartridge is the single most important factor in determining sound quality in a turntable set-up. Stylus cut and MC vs. MM are a discussion for another day. The 2nd most important factor is proper cartridge alignment. Getting the overhang, tracking weight, VTA, and azimuth right is simply critical to overall performance of any cart. I think it's a toss-up between the tonearm and the plinth for the 3nd most important factor. Both have large impact on vibration damping and controlling transients. If the plinth is light, sometimes a heavy platter can make up for that. But a good tonearm will forgive many design sins. And vice versa, if the tonearm is too light & stiff, thus prone to transient vibrations. Then a solid plinth and platter can keep it protected.

[@adampoll4977]

Oooooorrrr source a second hand SL-1200 and you get the best at a reasonable price. My 1980s era SL-1210 Mk2 still measures 0.03 wow and flutter and is dead silent bar what's in the grooves. Open up an old SL-1200 and you'll see EXACTLY where the money was spent - cast alloy chassis, heavy cast and machined platter lined with thick rubber on the inside, thick rubber base, AND a shed-load of bulk-molding compound to further damp resonance. All the imitations only LOOK like an Sl-1200 from the outside.

[@srobak]

98% of those at a "reasonable price" are old club or road dj decks that have been beat on for years. Bad idea. For that price you can easily get into a new plx-1000

[@adampoll4977]

@@srobak That may be. Mine is an ex-DJ workhorse. Tone-arm gimbal bearings are smooth and have no play or roughness, and, as I said, it still measures on spec. They were built to last and from quality materials. I even pulled the spindle bearing to check and re-lube and it is flawless, so.... I also try to live a less disposable lifestyle, so if old GOOD is on par with NEW disposable, then I'll favour giving a classic bit of kit a new home.

[@agm6095]

I still have my original Technnics SL-1300 turntable with an Audio Technica Shibata stylus that I bought in 1975. I need a pre-amp so I can play it on my Pioneer Elite receiver. I was thinking of the Schitt pre-amp, what do you think. I presently use a Radio Shack battery operated pre-amp and the Schitt should improve the sound.

[@ncironhorse8367]

Andrew, this review is spot-on. I bought this turntable and the Fluance RT85. I prefer the ATLP140 over the Fluance even with the supplied cart. I got this since the Technics SL1210GR is on back order. I use the phono stage on my McIntosh MA6500 and Definitve Technologies BiPolar 8600's. I find the sound quite nice but, not quite as nice as the McIntosh MT-5 I had.

[@bcrebel86]

I see a lot of comments about these tables not having a return feature and thats one if the reasons I passed on the AT models. Not really wanting to spend a ton. I found a mint Technics SL 1900 from 1977 that just needed the lift lever cleaned andc regreased. Might be the best $100 I've spent on equipment.

[@robertbosson5223]

The tone arm connector for head shell is the SME type connector, it would be worth telling your audience this detail.I have my Technics SL1200 mkII's from the early 1990's, if it was me, I'd buy a vintage SL1200 mkII over a new ATLP140 for around the same price.

[@Ladco77]

So I'm about to take the plunge into vinyl and the AT-LP140XP is seriously high on my list in no small part due to your review. I like the reasonable cost of entry with the upgrade potential that doesn't make me dump a huge sum day 1, but doesn't become obsolete a year from now.

[@efandmk3382]

There are two kinds of "audiophiles". There are those who love the music, and those who love the equipment. If you're a lover of music, there really isn't any reason to spend more than $300.00 on any component of your audio system.. And regarding turntables, your best choice is a vintage (80s or 90s) Sony or Pioneer, T4P tone arms are great, unless of course again, your interested in something you can tinker with. They track even scratched or slightly warped discs at 1 gm with an elliptical stylus. Same for pitch. The factory pitch is perfect, though here again, if you like to tinker....

[@NiiOnLood]

There is a third catecory (or subcategory, idk). Those who search and hunt any tiniest imperfections in playback to justify spending even more €€$$££. I wouldn't call it enjoying music.

[@johnjoy6374]

Thank you for your informative and honest opinion. As a subscriber I always appreciate your candor but you present it in a very polite way. Also I appreciate that you consistently give options for lower priced alternatives for those who can’t afford some of the pricier items. As for myself, I am looking for great sound regardless of the price and I think that I got the advice I needed by watching your review. I love the “giant killer” idea so I will give the setup you used a shot and go from there. At a minimum it sounds like getting the black cartridge will be a winner even if I decide on a different turntable later. Thank you sir, I appreciate you efforts.

[@keevacarroll5768]

Goes to show the importance or cartridge selection. Would love a comparison with the at-vm95ml cartridge. I think it's a giant killer

[@cubdukat]

It truly is. I upgraded my VM95e to an ML, and I've never looked back. I ran through the entire stylus life in the first four months of lockdown, and it didn't start having IGD problems until just recently. I'm on my second one now.

[@svenschwingel8632]

I bought a VM95ML for my PLX-1000. It is a really neutral cartridge with great tracking, albeit I would like it to have some more "air" in the treble. But for 150€, it can almost be considered a steal, given what pricetags Ortofon puts on their overpriced and overhyped 2M series.

[@7JANEWAY]

@@svenschwingel8632 I agree that the Ortofon 2m series is not cheap. But then, that begs the question, how important is sound quality to you? I first started with the Red, upgrading from the stock 95e that came with my AT LP120. The difference was apparent and immediate. The sound was clearer, louder, the highs were more prominent and the bass came through like never before. I knew that I had made the right choice. Being an audiophile of sorts, I upgraded to the Blue, and WOW!!! The difference between the Red and Blue is almost night and day, The overall sound was even clearer and fuller than the sound of the Red. It was definitely worth the upgrade! I don’t know if your attitude is from a bad experience with the 2m series or not. If that’s true, then I’m sorry that happened to you. But regardless, there are many people like me that like and appreciate the 2m sound, or Ortofon wouldn’t keep offering it. So, as always, it comes down to personal experience and personal preference. If you don’t like the 2m series, that’s OK. We all have our freedom of choice!!!

[@svenschwingel8632]

@@7JANEWAY the 2M Red is basically an OM-10 in a more fancy body at twice the price. I run a 2M Red and a 2M Bronze myself with the Bronze being a kickass cartridge. The Red is a decent allrounder for entry-level listening but it's a bit pricey for what it delivers.

[@7JANEWAY]

@Sven Schwingel If you feel that the Red is a bit too pricey, I still say that the Red is a good introduction to the 2m line. It delivers good sound, and when you’re ready to upgrade to the Blue, all you have to do is get a Blue stylus. Undoubtedly, the Bronze and Black are better. For their price they should be. But you’re really comparing apples and oranges, for the cartridge in the Bronze and Black is different from the cartridge in the Red and Blue. So of course the sound is different. So I say again: the Red is a good entry level cart/stylus. Nobody is saying it’s audiophile grade. But it’s still a good introduction to the 2m line and Ortofon carts in general.

[@NOXX1985]

i have a pair of these and do heavy duty scratching and beat juggling with a Vestax Pmc 05 mixer and i feel no difference when i was using 1200s in the 90s and 2000s. The torque on the 140 is ridiculously high and strong, matter of fact this 140 is practically identical to the mk7. Only difference is that on the 140, the start and stop button is round not square .. Thats it. 140 is 98% exactly like a 1200 mk7. Go online and compare the two...

[@stevesavage5038]

The rt85 comes with the blue ... At $499 that seems the best value to me ... at less than 1/2 the price of the at with black.. does it really give you that much better sound for the $600 + price difference?

[@timhowell8923]

Agreed. Plus the RT has auto-stop.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I compare the two in this video. 😃

[@7JANEWAY]

You skipped over the Ortofon 2m Bronze, which is between the 2m Blue and the 2m Black. I’m not going to say that it’s the same as the Black, because it isn’t. But it’s a worthwhile upgrade from the Blue. Its price tag of $349 as opposed to the $695 price tag of the Black is more budget friendly for those who want to go up the chain but don’t have nearly $700 to spend on an upgrade. You may say that you get what you pay for and that’s the reason you should get the Black. But my point is totally that to have better sound than the Blue (which is a great cartridge to begin with), you don’t have to jump up from the Blue to the Black and pay top dollar for the 2m line. I believe many people will be happy with the Bronze. If later on, if they have the money and want to upgrade again, the Black will still be there. Plus-if you have a Bronze cartridge, you only need to get a Black stylus to upgrade, since they share the same cartridge (just like upgrading to the Blue from a Red cartridge).

[@christopherwilliams8104]

Some people say a DJ deck is no good for pure sound quality? Is this true? I'd made my mind up with a rega deck but now I really like this and it's look and obviously it's simplicity of use (no belt change!) I also like the fact you can use your own phono cables! Anyone with any advice please help I'm new to all this.

[@cubdukat]

I call shenanigans on that notion. The 1200 itself started out life as an audiophile turntable, and it's certainly that now. This one, however, is nowhere near that.

[@morganboy1]

Great review. It's all about the cartridge. The turntable definitely has something to do with it, but as long as the speed is constant and the wow & flutter are good, it's the cartridge that translates the grooves. My input on your question about cartridge, preamp, speakers which is the most important? I think they all are, but if I had to put them in order of importance. Speakers first (no matter the input, if you can't reproduce it with accuracy, what's the point). Cart second (because that's what is reading the music). And then preamp. Although I think cart and preamp are neck and neck.

[@ciaranhalford4430]

Good point alright, but this is in use as a player. I think the importance of a sturdy turntable in terms of mixing would be certainly different. i would love to see this guy do a review of this.

[@Trekkie4]

In case it helps anyone... I bought mine way back, around early 2020 and the only issue I've encountered so far was the blown light bulb (or possibly even LED), inside the target light assembly. Not the strobe, I'm specifically referring to the small pop-up light on the right. Generally speaking, I do not regret buying 140XP but I can't help but to wonder if it was too much of a turntable for my needs, since I'm only using it as a HiFi component and nothing else. But that's a whole other story & not related to the actual LP140 in any way.

[@Oldgoat912]

I think the key is, do you enjoy the sound quality? That is the only issue.

[@Trekkie4]

@@Oldgoat912 I do, yes. It actually sounds superb with red Audio Technica AT-95EX cartridge, much better than VM95 or XP series. But with all the prices skyrocketing and costs piling up, I can't help but to wonder if maybe I could have bought much cheaper table instead and invested, spent rest of the money on something else.

[@yorkemar]

Fortunately in 2010 I ,bought a Technics Sl1210mk2 brand new.. 1000$aus...and it's really great. Because however of increasing prices, technics is a bit out of reach for some, so Audio Technicas are a good budget turntable choice.

[@QoraxAudio]

Yes! A turntable review, nice 👍 Those Audio Technica budget TTs are great bang for the buck indeed! But the most important in a turntable setup is the cartridge (or stylus tip to be more specific), then phono preamp, turntable third.

[@QoraxAudio]

@@interestingthings8598 I think that you won't get the most out of a 2m black cartridge with the LP120, since that one doesn't have VTA adjustment. The 2M black has a shibata stylus that is very sensitive to VTA.

[@Rammersteined]

I've had this AT unit for about 6 months and love it. Bought an Orofon Red for it but actually left the stock cartridge on it as I like the sound. Does it match up to my retro Technics SL-1700? No. But for the money its a great table for the buck, would recommend it especially to anyone new to vinyl records.

[@akmmonirulislam3961]

Dear Andrew, I use audio-technica AT LP120USB with Ortofon 2M Red, marantz PM6006 amp and GoldenEar Technology Triton Five Floor Standing speakers and I'm happy with the details, clarity and fidality of the sound from my vinyl. Thanks. Monirul Islam Dhaka, Bangladesh. 23 May 2024

[@RichardGreen422]

I am grateful that I bought a Technics SL-1200 Mk 2 many years ago for around $250. It replaced a Linn Sondek, whose fussiness I found tiresome, and I am glad I made the switch. I am glad there is again a good direct drive turntable at a reasonable price.

[@RoaroftheTiger]

It's Not the Turntable. It's the 'Transducer'. In this case, as You noted the Phono Cartridge. Just as You also pointed out, at the other end of the Playback Chain, the "other transducer" - the Speakers. Yes, in general terms; Better to "high end" Phono Cartridges, "track" a Record's Groove with less Downforce. Let's say, under 2 grams. So ok, the Turntable has it's place. And Not to diminish the Other points of a Turntable. But to be more correct; It's the Tonearm. Is the Tonearm - friction free within it's "gimbal" / free In Both the Vertical & Horizontal planes ? And, Is the Arm rigid, but light weight ? It's those qualities, that insure that a "high end" Phono Cartridge, will track properly, at It's recommended Tracking Force. Making that Cartridge as important; to your sound quality, as Your favorite Speakers.

[@davidphillips1429]

Thanks for the great review. I bought this when it first was offered. It has been an excellent turntable in the time I have had it. I added the at-xp7/H head shell cartridge combo and I use a audio technica record weight with an anti-static arm to complete the set up. It has always worked perfectly and I think is an excellent pairing with my Klipsch Hearsey II’s. I’ve found many dj reviews for the 140xp but yours is the best for a home listener. Buying this turntable allowed me to save enough to get a Yamaha r-n803 integrated. Thanks again for the in-depth review. And your channel is great. Been subscribed for quite a while and I love the content. A great way to start 2021.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Your setup sounds AWESOME David. Thank you for tuning in and for all your support!

[@HiEndApp]

Hello, my friend. In 2024, can you recommend the 140th for purchase? Or is something else better? I'm on the verge of buying now, but I can't stop choosing

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

yes

[@77Cardinal]

I always smile when hi-fi folks dismiss the Technics SL 1200 and their many clones as "DJ decks". After all the SL 1200 was introduced as a home Hi-Fi turntable in 1972. It's functionality and solid build made it the choice for DJ's years after it was designed. I just bought a pair of Technics SL-1200 MK 7 turntables to enjoy mixing vinyl at home. They retail for $1,000 USD and didn't get a lot of positive press from DJ's or Hi Fi reviewers last year but I like them a lot. Most complaints focused on 2 points, "It's a DJ deck"(therefore not worthy as a hi-fi player) and the lighter weight and overall feel make it seem too cheap for the money. But one big plus I noticed is the coreless direct drive motor which nobody mentions and is one reason the MK 7 is lighter and in some ways better. The iron core was removed from the drive. It has very low self noise, motor vibration and "cogging" isn't a problem. The very solid speed control makes a difference in the focus and clarity of playback. The wire in the tonearm is noticeably heavier as well. You could say its a great sounding turntable that is also fully functional as a DJ deck...or you could say it's a pro quality DJ turntable that matches or beats hi-fi decks at a certain price point. The AT is a great value at $400 USD. The very similar Pioneer PLX 1000 is priced at slightly less than the MK 7. But I find that the new drive of the Technics MK7 make it worth considering for home hi-fi and the fun of vinyl mixing. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@djgreenhornet2892]

I’m hoping to buy me MK 7 this year. I already own Technics, Gemini, and Reloop.

[@bighands69]

Technic decks would not be at the level of a high end turntable and they are not suppose to be at that level. The main strengths of a technic deck is their high sound quality with durability and direct drive motor that can be used for mixing. Technic decks are unique and their price point is due to their uniqueness.

[@77Cardinal]

@@bighands69 That's an interesting point. Let's think it through. The Technics 1210GAE is meant to be a hi-fi deck. It's priced at $4,000 USD and you can't buy one because they were a limited edition. I think Andrew mentioned that it came with a factory fitted cartridge. The SL 1200 MK7 lists at $1000 USD and does not come with a cartridge. So. What's the difference between the two besides the cartridge? I don't know. But both come with the single biggest upgrade which is the coreless motor drive. It appears on the surface both are a continuation of an almost 40 year year old design, except for the motors. The price point for a NEW MK7 marketed to DJ's is $3000 USD lower than the hi fi Marketed GAE. is there a $3000 difference in performance? It would be nice to see a comparison wouldn't it?

[@bighands69]

@@77Cardinal Cost of products on limited production can be anything and is not always based on performance as per say. A 1 million dollar Rolls is not necessarily better than a $400,000 Rolls. Same applies for watches.

[@77Cardinal]

@@bighands69 Yeah I think we understand each other.

[@neolancer]

Welcome to the Ortofon 2M Black review...

[@SisterRay100]

I wonder how the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with the same cartridge changes (Ortofon 2M RED/2M BLUE/2M BLACK) compare to the AT-LP140XP ...

[@pinkypoohable]

I followed your advice. I got the Audio technica 140xp instead of the Technics SL1200MK7. Paired it with my Marantz PM7000n and Sonus Faber Concertino Domus. I played Brothers in Arms Masters Album by Dire Straits. The sound it produced is amazingly good. That's with a stock cartridge. How much more with the 2M Black from Ortofon. It will be mind blowingly good!

[@rosineer]

Love the outro...bahaha. also appreciate you saying you saying that I'm the only one who has to like the sound of my system is me. In my youth I was at the other end spending ++$$ to impress others. Now 49+ yrs later and getting back into HIFI your statement rings so true. As for your question I would always swap out cartridges when I got tired of the sound. I've only ever owned 3 TT's a used 1stJVC, 2nd B&O 3rd a Rega Planar 2. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

I miss B&O cartridges. While not technically perfect, they were always just nice to listen to. I think going forward I'm likely going to start collecting cartridges rather than turntables.

[@kevinstaib715]

Honestly I think the most important part of a system would be the record and its recording. Without a quality recording and pressing , the system will never sound as good as it can regardless of equipment.

[@mariocassar6087]

Returning to this…. I ENJOY listening to this TT with a Denon DL103r cartridge! Enjoying full and palpable sound.

[@brandoncarlson03]

Happy New Year! Really appreciated this and the last video, you're building a nice little community here sir.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Thank you, we're glad you're here and a part of it!

[@TheVinylGuru]

2M red is very dull to me too. Great review. Honest. Very well shot too. These are extraordinary videos that you do,

[@shastaaguilar4111]

I've owned this and a 2M Red for about a year and it is amazing.

[@darrellwoods5961]

What Exact Headshell are you using with the Ortorfon 2M Black cartridge for my audio technica At-lp140xp turntable?

[@Keefster]

I'm curious how you feel about this 2 years later? I'm trying to decide on a turntable in the $500ish range and really debating going for the LP140 and adding a higher end cartridge. I love direct drive, but all my research keeps coming back to Pro-Ject Carbon Evo or spending a little extra and getting the Pro.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Still feel great about it.

[@ramazanarslan817]

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Reloop RP7000 mk2 ?

[@NicholasT-f9n]

If you're technically inclined, remove tonearm off base. Fill it with spray foam. Then remove underside cover, disassemble everything and install 1cm thick steel plate painted in rubber paint to prevent conductivity. Use a Nagaoka MP10 cart. This turntable will sound better than any direct drive turntable from Technics, including the $10K model !

[@rael2099]

I'd love to watch a video tutorial for that.

[@jean-lucd3846]

Interesting. I own both. I also have the Technics SL1200MK7. The Technics does have slightly better wow and is a bit heavyer. BUT, sound seems just perfect on both using the same Ortofon OM DJE or Archiv or even OM Blue. Good idea do do the comparison with the same cartridges. The OM Blue is just fine but I also hate the Red. The XP140 is defenatily a high-end player that leaves room for upgrading the cartridge. Well done.

[@familiedejonge6813]

Totally agreed. I’ve replaced the standard felt mat ( because I don’t use this tt for scratching purpoes) with a rubber mat from Technics RGS0008. Another cheap improvement.

[@gregsturgess3876]

I had a 40 year old pioneer got it when I was 12 birthday present thanks mum , lot of use it had a humm so I went to the audio store decided to up date to the 1500 c nine months ago and love it now maybe a black orifont upgrade. Thank you both for your reviews and entertainment all the best Greg

[@PN-sv4jy]

Merci pour cette présentation et ce point de vue sur la Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP. Je partage totalement le sentiment que les différences se font majoritairement sur les cellules installées, les audiophiles purs et durs se cristallisent toujours sur les produits très "marketés" audiophiles, sans pour voir dans la majorité des cas réellement justifier leurs choix..Merci pour votre point de vue plus large et abouti. Phil

[@fzero65]

I'm looking to get a turntable within the next couple of days. My exact choices were the fluance rt 85 or the audio technica you just reviewed. I've heard that belt driven was the way to go. How come you prefer direct drive? Does the platter make a difference in sound? Some have said the platter on the rt-85 is an extra plus for the turntable.

[@wordup0719]

Hope you get yours answered. We are on the same boat 😂 Planning to get at-lpw40wn and an ortofon 2m black Im throwing my money on the cartridge.

[@drkevintan]

Thank you Andrew for your review. I noticed that you used the internal phono preamplifier of the LP240. Have you tried playing it through a decent phono stage or preamp? I own the 'bigger brother' of the LP240, the LP1240, and it is a really phenomenal turntable for the money. Playing it with the Audio-Technica VM540 Microline cartridge through a Puffin Phono DSP.

[@cedricvanderhauwaert6527]

Does it sound good using the external phono preamp? Some people are removing the internal phone stage from their LP120's because in the off position, the internal phono preamp still adds capacitance. This would negatively affect the higher frequencies, have you noticed any of this?

[@manFromPeterborough]

@@cedricvanderhauwaert6527 It's the low pass filters just before the leads that mess up the top end, I've disposed of the 4 parts that filter, ripped out shunt caps, replace inductors with SM jump blocks

[@thegoose3]

I’m curious to know your preferred pre amps. I have the Sony receiver with built in preamp but I want to upgrade the sound with a better preamp.

[@gman5218]

Music fidelity v90 lps

[@billd9667]

The Pioneer PLX-1000 is another SL clone - and quite good.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

A few people have mentioned it. Will have to check it out!

[@FinnDXer]

Had PLX-500, totally crap. Poor tonearm bearing, motor noise and useless VTA. No more chinese copys, have MK7 now.

[@philhenderson7635]

@@FinnDXer Try the PLX 1000. It really is an excellent turntable. And will take you closer to the Technics.

[@srobak]

@@FinnDXer have you ever even touched one? Cause this looks like a work of fiction here.

[@rael2099]

Reloops blow Pioneers out of the water. Pioneer drives die after the one year warranty expires.

[@Zoophious]

I am currently debating between going with the 2m black vs the 2m black lvb 250 for my project debut pro. I am curious if the quality difference between the two is worth the extra $300 for the lvb. Do you have experience with both carts?

[@Labor_Jones]

I think I'll order a 140xp sometime this month and use my Andante cartridge until I can buy The Black. The Retail on USED has skyrocketed on Turntables so I can't go there. .... I get the feeling that the 140xp might not last 10 years, I'm old enough I might not either. *"All things work out," so said Dean Moriarty!*

[@dougg1075]

Man I jammed the wall album today on my Klipsch Heresys and a Sunfire sub. One of the best listening sessions I’ve had in a while. Thorens TD166 with Ortifon blue

[@Juraiprince]

After almost 20 years, I am still LOVING my Sunfire True Subwoofer! And while I'm at it, still loving my almost as old Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver as well! Keep those discs SPINNING, brother!!!👍🏾🙌🏾

[@dougg1075]

@@Juraiprince great sub! I have two , one was the first generation soon as it came out ( the one with the Klipsch noted above). You too man!

[@Juraiprince]

@@dougg1075 Mine is a first generation as well! I had an issue with it and sent it in to Sunfire back in the day, and they sent it back upgraded to the MKII version! Bob Carver was AMAZING!!! 🙌🏾🙏🏾

[@bryfar6178]

Those monster LaScala speakers at about $12k will definitely make a mid price tt sound good.

[@rustymixer2886]

Exactly

[@rael2099]

He didn't use a different set of speakers to compare the Technics TT to the AT though, and still 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ptg01]

You are amazing ! So DILIGENT ! So organized Bravo ! Happy 2021 and looking forward to your reviews !

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

WOW, thank you! Appreciate you tuning in!

[@felenov]

I already got a Technics 1210 Mk7. Does what it's made for and does it well.

[@tzq5fx]

i think it’s 90% cartridge for sound. as long as a tt spins like it should & has a good tonearm, the cartridge is the game changer

[@salamelvisual6270]

Did you try the Reloop RP7000 MK2 ? mostly oriented for DJ but greatquality for me !

[@leecharlesworth3341]

Best alternative to the technics.fantastic turntable

[@wardprocter2371]

I would argue that the best “component” in a turntable setup is learning to set the turntable up properly. Levelling the platter, adjusting the vertical tracking force and alignment, setting the anti-skate properly and aligning the cartridge are all key things that need to be understood and done in order to hear what a turntable and it’s cartridge are capable of. Do NOT trust that everything is set properly from the factory - it will usually be close but not perfect. Things get bumped around in the time between when the TT leaves the factory and when you take it home. That being said, once you know how to set things up changing the cartridge can make a big difference. I recommend getting a spare head shell so that cartridges can be changed out easily. I have the RT85 with the Ortofon blue and I keep a Nagoka MP110 in my spare head shell. They are both very good but in different ways. Having the ability to switch them easily makes it so that you can adjust your sound to fit your mood or the quality of the recording.

[@mh-oh8kf]

I’m getting tired of belt drive, I’m grabbing one

[@mythos5809]

In my experience the most important component in a turntable, irrespective of price, is a properly set up cartridge. I have been very surprised on occasion to hear the difference set up can make. I have heard a budget turntable out perform a high end vinyl source, until the high-ender was aligned etc. Night and day.

[@TheDobleQ]

Do I need to spend +4K dollars on expensive audio equipment just to flex in front of random people who legitimately enjoy music coming from an Android speakers? Absolutely I do. I don’t have self esteem as well.

[@friedeyes333]

Thanks for another great review! I got my sister in law the 120XBT recently and I was actually pretty impressed with the thing. I actually am now kicking around picking a 120 or 140 up for a second turntable. They're solid. As for the QOTD, I'll pick the cart. It's hard, because really..... it all matters, and everything is important when you build a system and not a haphazardly thrown together collection of components. These things dont exist in a vacuum. But loose information at the source(what is the true source, the TT or the cartridge?) in a turntable and you'll never recover that info again. So within reason.... cartridge, TT, tonearm, phono preamp.

[@chris-yc7je]

Just purchased this deck based on your review, I was looking mostly at belt drive only but the look of this and the simplicity of direct drive swayed my decision I'm also looking to get the Sony STR-190 that you also reviewed unless you can recommend a better budget amp? Also, any recommendation on a set of budget bookshelf speakers? Your advice is invaluable, and your channel is awesome, keep up the good work.

[@johnsonadekunle7675]

I'm a headphone person at this point but I went to demo a $170k speaker setup yesterday and now I want to sell all my headphones and gears. Every single track I played the artist was literally there in the room with us performing. Never experienced anything like that before. Now I understand the speaker folks out there. I'm diving into that world soon but will still keep my headphone setup at the same time. Wow, it was an eye opener. I actually went there to get a turntable to include in my headphone setup but nah I'll get some decent speakers first.

[@andrewrobinsonreviews]

Those six figure systems can really wreck one's plans 😉

[@johnsonadekunle7675]

It's crazy. I played Crossing by Yosi Horikawa and hahahahahaha, haaaaah. The vehicles appeared to be coming from outside the house, went through the room, passed through our front, and then exited through the other side of the house right there in front of me. I melted. The same thing with Letter by Yosi, he was literally standing there writing on a board in front of me in the room. I don't like Jazz but oh my was I wrong? All the Jazz tracks I played, the positioning of the band members was crystal clear. I could see every instrument being played. It messed me up. It's good to have money.

[@reallybigair]

Would love to see a shootout of this TT vs. Pioneer PLX 1000 and Technics SL1200 mk7, all using the same cartridges. Similar looking TTs with the same basic functionality at 3 different price points. Would also like to see a comparison to the Technics SL1200GR which is another significant jump in price.

[@RUfromthe40s]

this last you refer basically is just like mine ,SL-1000MKII specifications wise allthough when i bought it i could had bought a better tonearm but this is far better than the ones i´ve been testing in hi-fi shops ,it was expensive at the time but i got a good deal while retiring the old 1970 thorens professional wich played everyhour of the day for 10 years only having changed at the time it´s professional sure needles that were soft on the records and good in reading them no matter how many hours they´ve been played ,always with a 2 grams counter-weight and 2.5 on the anti-skating scale, only changed them because with 10 years of use they were getting loose on some most used functions related with playing the records itselves, i only listen once to the pioneer and if it is like their 80´s policy ,they were built by the company who builds the technics, only changing the way it looks at first sight