As the Shaft Turns

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Keith Fenner

Keith Fenner

Күн бұрын

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@jaketank3217
@jaketank3217 10 жыл бұрын
I came back to this Video because I will be welding a small shaft this next week. Thanks again Keith!
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@tfp777 Lets change the abasive word stress to draw a simple contraction by heating. The shaft was running true to start, so the extra weld was just to offset the pull caused by varied bead laying. The saturation of control does have some depth and maintains its true running as the weld is shaped to size. Some final heat straightening almost always has to be done or at least checked before finishing the shaft work.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@Bonfield2002 No but you can apply hard facing rod the same way on needed projects and then grind to size, some large heavy equipment pins are done that way. At Northstar in Cailf. we used a submerged arc welding set up like a lathe bed with auto feed, creating cylindrical beads rather than linear...
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@huerdon I used a Nitronic 50, alternate filler rod and the Shaft material is Aquamet 22. Thats all the detail I'll give out, on materials used in this proceedure. For those in this line of work, the info for this has been around,for years, I'm not going to do your home work, for you. My video was only intented to show the rebuilding of worn shafting areas, and the same process may be used on any weldable alloyed shaft, Thanks for the comment Jack! :)
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
When you are set up and doing a simulated vertical weld, slag is not trapped under the current weld pass, if left from the prior, pass, just as slag is not trapped between dimes on a single bead.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@G3SPARTO Personal preference, if alloys of filler metals are matched, wire feed process can be used.
@ColchesterBridgeport
@ColchesterBridgeport 12 жыл бұрын
Keith, looking forward to part 2. This is easily my favourite KZbin channel - excellent content, filming, editing and commentary. I am also glad to see you have a big old Colchester Mascot lathe!
@TheKelstr
@TheKelstr 12 жыл бұрын
This is one great video Keith, I too use stick for adding fill metal rather than Mig, I have always wanted to do "Submerged Arc" under the shield of the special "sand" but I never have , My friend worked for Lincoln Welding and he use to do it there in the plant all day , it really made some cool looking welds
@gtsdesigns
@gtsdesigns 12 жыл бұрын
@3:38 for some strange reason, I couldnt stop laughing... I enjoy watching all of your vids, going back through some of the older ones Ive missed... Im always learning something through them...
@operator41001
@operator41001 12 жыл бұрын
You,your machining and Joe walsh for background music really go well together, keep the videos coming
@astriknon
@astriknon 12 жыл бұрын
I love how the radio in your shop always plays the same music as my shop at work haha.
@Stubytube
@Stubytube 11 жыл бұрын
wooohh, good place to live, apart from having a workshop videos completisimo and I have noticed that you are a very good turner inter alia congratulations. one big hello from Argentina and rising good videos
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
In the manual mode of welding I prefer to lay the beads to gain depth and control the heat better in the lineal fashion! In the yards, we did have a submerged arc machine that we made, to do build ups in the rotary direction, used mostly for short hard faced pins of heavy equipment. ;{)---
@FRUNTCASTER
@FRUNTCASTER 12 жыл бұрын
@KEF791 - - - I know all about that! It's hard for me to work with my dad. . . Lots of head bumping, yelling, and sometimes throwing stuff. Hahaha I still love the old codger, and treasure our time together, good and bad, and I'm eternally grateful for everything he's taught me. Good for your kids Keith! I hope they do well in culinary as well, it's a fine profession!
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments and best to you and your family! ;{)-----
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry; I was referring to the rod used for the repair. in the past I had stated that the slag I use to help hold the bead for the next past and it is hard to remove single beads of slag as it is so it's a win, win. Also the way I lay the beads is like welding in a continuous vertical weld position. ;{)-----
@Futurple
@Futurple 12 жыл бұрын
3:40 ha, did you see the picture on the wall the shaft fits through. That had me rolling. My philosophy, do the good job, do it right, don't cut needles corners, but have a good time while you do your work... Good job Mr. Fenner...
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of marine shafting and they are long sometimes. I straighten all shafting before running it in the machines that way your only holding it and not fighting any run out, while your trying to make true cuts. ;{)---
@patrickfmooney
@patrickfmooney 12 жыл бұрын
The production quality of your videos continues to improve. :thumbup:
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of the miller 130 wire feeder I had, and still get to use when over the owners shop from time to time. It is perfect for the newbie, and material up to 1/4". There is a lot of new welders out on the market now and I would most likely go with a Miller or Lincoln, or at minimum compare the purchase to them for the quality. ;{)-----
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@Katov2 Thats a dark sulfer base cutting oil :)
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
It is one of the recommended rods for the weld fusion overlay procedure listed in the material manufactures (ARMCO) book in regards to the Nitronic 50 compatible rods selections. ;{)-----
@screwpull1
@screwpull1 11 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. Im learning all the time! Is there a third video? Im interested in seeing you pour and bore the white metal bearing.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
Not for the marine environment, it is of a stainless steel material high torsion yield, But let’s say you were doing a machinery shaft, as long as it’s not leaded, like 12L14 or some of the higher alloys of steel that become brittle, you can build up an machine, a lot of worn out diameters, on most shafting used in the industry for drives and pivots. ;{)---
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, the slag left on for one saves time,in removal and after I got use to it, I also found it to aid in the suport of laying the next bead. ;{)---
@ammagato
@ammagato Ай бұрын
Bravo!!!
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 12 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm impressed with the speed with which you dialed that in between the chuck and the weld. I bet you've done that before LOL.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
More to space out the interpass temp's and keep the heat uniform from one side to the other, makes a big difference on keeping it running true. ;{)----
@futten3230
@futten3230 12 жыл бұрын
fantastic work
@SteveRobReviews
@SteveRobReviews 12 жыл бұрын
Fantastic !! Have to ask if you used hardfaceing rods ?
@tfp777
@tfp777 12 жыл бұрын
@KEF791 I like your terminology, thanks for info.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
You can always send a photo to my Email address found on my blog site. Anyhow, your size shaft may be cheaper to just replace with new stock. I rarely perform this procedure on any shafting below 1 1/2" diameter, sort of the expense line of judgement. ;{)-----
@2009deerejohn
@2009deerejohn 11 жыл бұрын
You must be masochistic, lol. I took machine trades in HS and I had the hardest time with the 4 jaw chuck, but I've noticed you use that a lot, also I will steal that little trick of using weld to contract and straighten a piece, I like that
@capncharlie7894
@capncharlie7894 10 жыл бұрын
that is some good work. wow. does the shaft bend when you cut the weld off?
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 10 жыл бұрын
Part two answers that, as we progress with the job. ;{)-----
@capncharlie7894
@capncharlie7894 10 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed I saw that a while back. Awesome stuff.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
In the yards we did a lot of flame spraying of ceramic coatings, on patrol boat shafting. ;{)-----
@blakehensley7646
@blakehensley7646 10 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how you turned those long shafts when the wall was right there
@chicagolathe-shopmaster-sh1680
@chicagolathe-shopmaster-sh1680 7 жыл бұрын
Did you normalize the shaft before turning? When you cut away that weld bead you lose your draw.
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
@FRUNTCASTER They both couldn't get their hearts into it! I know first hand its a bitch working for your old man, holding back, the blow it out yours and bumbing heads, from time to time, unreasonable exspectations...LOL... a real hard ass :) Once over that time period you get all the joys / bonds... They both are doing what they want in culinary and I support their dreams, what time is dinner :D
@billdlv
@billdlv 12 жыл бұрын
Keith cool video. I was wondering where the overhang went on your lathe. Now I know!
@AstraWerke
@AstraWerke 11 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a shaft! Do you often have such long pieces in your shop? And how do you center it to have it run true? I mean it won't be easy to make such a mass of metal move with that small plastic hammer or?
@1995jug
@1995jug 11 жыл бұрын
Keith i liked your hole in the wall, got a good lafe out of that, great looking job as always. thanks
@bx2200
@bx2200 12 жыл бұрын
What a great welding job! What kind of rods are you using?
@MrStandup2p
@MrStandup2p 11 жыл бұрын
Thx Boss- like I said you're the "big boys"
@lpfreak1708
@lpfreak1708 6 жыл бұрын
What song is playing at 13:50? I know I've heard it. I just cant place it.
@63256325N
@63256325N 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! By the sound of it your positioner needs a lube job....lol
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 12 жыл бұрын
1/8" rod compatible with Nitronic 50...
@andywander
@andywander 11 жыл бұрын
Are you answering the question about the weld slag, or the one about the specific rod to use?
@tfp777
@tfp777 12 жыл бұрын
Straightening by adding weld and then machining it away seems counter to the function of adding stress with the weld. Does the effect go deeper than the amount of weld you remove? Just curious about what goes on, thanks. :-) I like it when the slag comes off effortlessly. Stuffing box abuse is right and very very common.
@andywander
@andywander 11 жыл бұрын
Do you need to match the welding rod to the specific stainless alloy used in the particular shaft?
@MrWFCJR
@MrWFCJR 11 жыл бұрын
If a guy was going to buy his first welder for light repairs, perhaps metal art. Hobby and handyman in mind. What would you recommend as a purchase?
@tm868686
@tm868686 12 жыл бұрын
so you take all the slag of after you finished the whelding all around the shaft? is it burning away when you doing pass after pass? i am just concerned that its not good to have the slag from the first weld under the second one and so on. but that doesnt seem to be a problem, or is it?
@stevencarlino772
@stevencarlino772 8 жыл бұрын
How did you the shaft from warping due to the welding?
@Stubytube
@Stubytube 11 жыл бұрын
question, you live where the movie trancurre shark?
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Marine shafting is a high Nickel & molybdenum, super stainless steel. ;{)-----
@rotlerin
@rotlerin 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith. Years ago as a centre lathe turner, I used to do a lot of spray metalling with kit from a company called Eutectic (I think). Had a lot of success with it. Have you ever tried it?
@sass1ap
@sass1ap 9 жыл бұрын
why don't you move the tailstock to insert long rods or shafts into the lathe? is that too much work?
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 9 жыл бұрын
It most of the time is more work and some of the shafting is longer than the distance off the end of the lathe to the wall than out the back and behind the lathe, but some real big diameters and shorter length, i will move the tail stock. ;{)-----
@sass1ap
@sass1ap 9 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I see :)
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Jaws was filmed about 22 miles south of my house off the shores of Nantucket. ;{)-----
@02stanggt
@02stanggt 12 жыл бұрын
The pair of lips cracked me up.
@GnosisMan50
@GnosisMan50 12 жыл бұрын
forgive my ignorance but could you get the same results if you welded around the shaft instead of across it?
@MrStandup2p
@MrStandup2p 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not questioning but looking to learn- why go back to the beginning, rather than coming up and back in the opposite direction?
@andywander
@andywander 11 жыл бұрын
So you are able to weld over the slag for the next pass?
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch 11 жыл бұрын
Could I pick your brain a moment? I am dealing with a much smaller shaft (I am not worthy) and I don't know if it's too small to take the heat of welding up the area. I thought of Belzona metal epoxy but the worn area is a race for a needle bearing. The axle is maybe 5/8 or 3/4. I forgot to measure it. YT won't let me paste a picture link to show what I have :(
@Katov2
@Katov2 12 жыл бұрын
Keath whats the stuff you put on with the brush?
@FRUNTCASTER
@FRUNTCASTER 12 жыл бұрын
That lip thing is hilarious!! Quick question (hoping I don't stir up a hornets nest), but how come your kids aren't in there learning the trade? Are they not interested in fab or machining?
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Yes you do! ;{)-----
@vclubamp
@vclubamp 11 жыл бұрын
Armco! My father in law invented nitronic 60 there!
@TheBodvarg
@TheBodvarg 11 жыл бұрын
not high cromium alloy ?
@TheBodvarg
@TheBodvarg 11 жыл бұрын
what electrode is that ?
@TheBodvarg
@TheBodvarg 11 жыл бұрын
wouldn hilco hardmelt 600 be just as compliable i
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 9 жыл бұрын
More Joe Walsh ;^)
@sc0tte1-416
@sc0tte1-416 10 жыл бұрын
lmao Nice little glory hole you have there in the wall, quite the humor you have there. Nice video, I love watching metal being worked. A pretty precise trade with unforgiving tolerances. How much HP or Torque can that shaft handle, looks like it's from a pretty big boat, no? I don't know much about boats though so just wondering lol
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! ;{)-----
@screwpull1
@screwpull1 11 жыл бұрын
Ignore my last post. Just found the last video. Im watching on my phone and its a bit cranky!
@MrStandup2p
@MrStandup2p 11 жыл бұрын
I,would have figured on something like utilizing the heat and consequently zig zagged... Which I'm sure isn't how the big boys do it
@KeithFenner
@KeithFenner 11 жыл бұрын
Nitronic 50 material ;{)-----
@guubagaaba8391
@guubagaaba8391 9 жыл бұрын
sounds like somebody needs a little oil. ha ha ha !!!
@AYUSHJOD678
@AYUSHJOD678 3 жыл бұрын
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@DieselCrawler86
@DieselCrawler86 12 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge wondering if you where a dirty minded old man or not. But once I seen the lips the choice was clear LOL. You know since every time you say "shaft" you kinda giggle.
@GnosisMan50
@GnosisMan50 12 жыл бұрын
yeah, those lips reminded me of my ex girlfriend.. she was a great kisser! lol..
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