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Ash Greninja: Banned and Left Behind

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2 жыл бұрын

Ash Greninja come baaaaaack
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@Lmaster800
@Lmaster800 2 жыл бұрын
It still boggles my mind that the starters didn't get a mega evolution on x and y
@MrOfflineAlways
@MrOfflineAlways 2 жыл бұрын
Thats because you where given a Kanto starter with a mega evolution in X and Y
@therock238360
@therock238360 2 жыл бұрын
A. T. Yeah, but why couldn’t they mega evolve too
@Lmaster800
@Lmaster800 2 жыл бұрын
@@therock238360 Exactly, they prioritize the gen 1 starters more, happened too with Gigantamax with charizard, though they got it later on dlc
@lilythelegendarysupersaiya6244
@lilythelegendarysupersaiya6244 2 жыл бұрын
Even though it was late we got Ash Greninja. Ash Greninja is considered a form rivaling mega evolution in the show and games it basically got mythical Pokémon status and is banned in competitive so yes Ash Greninja is a mega evolution although not an actual one
@lilythelegendarysupersaiya6244
@lilythelegendarysupersaiya6244 2 жыл бұрын
@@therock238360 it was because at the time the 20th anniversary was coming plus game freak loves Kanto so of course they would give the Kanto starters megas but in all honesty do you seriously want a mega Chesnaught and Mega Delphox? Mega Delphox would become an anthro furry and Chesnought would be ugly as hell
@cosmicdunsparce
@cosmicdunsparce 2 жыл бұрын
Ash-Greninja does show up in Smash. It was added to its final smash, yet it isn't easy to notice
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that it's orange shuriken wasn't the final smash
@percy3422
@percy3422 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmonke3348 I mean that orange shuriken was useless so I’m glad that isn’t the final smash.
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
@@percy3422 Just because it didn't work on Charizard doesn't mean it's useless. The water shuriken Greninja used against sceptile was definitely weaker than the orange one and it knocked out a grass type
@MattRain90
@MattRain90 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is easy to notice tho
@No-qf2qt
@No-qf2qt 2 жыл бұрын
I actually noticed it straight away and kinda wish they did more than just change Greninja itself for the final smash and polished it up
@MudkipPog
@MudkipPog 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly blows my mind that the froakie line didn't make it into sword and shield. Greninja was voted Japan's favorite pokemon. Goes to show that they didn't pick the galar dex based on what people like.
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
It's more like they base it on what they think is safe. Look at Leon they gave it a Charizard too. They could've gave him a typhlosion and it would've been just as badass. Johto starters are honestly forgotten
@yaboywest5856
@yaboywest5856 2 жыл бұрын
They remembered to put Maractus in the game but the not the gen 2, 4, or 5 starters lmfao
@Raven-so4tz
@Raven-so4tz 2 жыл бұрын
of course they didnt, a lot of fan favorites werent in the dex, like garchomp
@_Tzer
@_Tzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmonke3348 legends arceus is cool for that tho.
@TheMightyGlizzy
@TheMightyGlizzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboywest5856 I’m happy maractus got recognition though, what I’m more mad about is that damn Aromatisse out of all things was one of their first picks
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 2 жыл бұрын
Normal protean Greninja was the bane of my existence online, so I thought Ash Greninja was a nice change of pace.
@australiananarchist480
@australiananarchist480 2 жыл бұрын
Boy you were mistaken
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 2 жыл бұрын
@@australiananarchist480 I still think that honestly. Greninja is still a pain to deal with in general, but protean is much more annoying imo.
@damudkip1083
@damudkip1083 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slenderquil L I B E R O.
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 2 жыл бұрын
@@damudkip1083 We thought we were safe. Little did we know that this wild ride never ends
@colllrrr5338
@colllrrr5338 2 жыл бұрын
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@masterpig5s
@masterpig5s 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame we’ll never get another special demo due to the Pokédex getting leaked. Even if it’s because the sun and moon had dedicated images for the Pokédex, which were the assets that were left in.
@MonographicSingleheaded
@MonographicSingleheaded 2 жыл бұрын
„We know its our fault that we left it there and thatppl r inquisitive, but lets blame the fandom anyway.”
@MonographicSingleheaded
@MonographicSingleheaded 2 жыл бұрын
Said Gamefreak as they started to proceed caring less and less.
@Mario87456
@Mario87456 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know GameFreak has never said that was the reason for no more demos
@RayoMcQueen95990
@RayoMcQueen95990 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mario87456 it ms kind of obvious that that was the main reason, why do you think the guy who leaked the Gen 8 mons got sued?
@christianthompson2768
@christianthompson2768 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonographicSingleheaded Okay but while it's their fault for leaving it in, it's actually EXTREMELY difficult to scrub that stuff out of there. Like difficult enough that it isn't worth putting all that effort in there. The demos are always built off a version of the game itself. And honestly, there's no point to the Demos anyway. They were pretty bad honestly, and who needs a demo for Pokemon anyway? 99% of people know what they're getting into. Legends could be an interesting one that could work with a Demo, but c'mon. They really made a demo for ORAS, a remake? Super pointless.
@GateK101
@GateK101 2 жыл бұрын
forgotten my ass, he is literally in 1 out of 3 battles in showdown
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
Showdown literally has access to all pokemon depending on the kind of battles.
@p3p07
@p3p07 2 жыл бұрын
And ou in Smogon
@No.1_Reuniclus_Fan
@No.1_Reuniclus_Fan 2 жыл бұрын
True 💀💀💀
@Hatguy_the_395nd
@Hatguy_the_395nd 2 жыл бұрын
Uh… I’ve never seen it in Natdex AG. Over 100 matches. And none.
@tryhardpenguin9636
@tryhardpenguin9636 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmonke3348 You aren't going to see all the pokemon the same amount though
@ShibuNub3305
@ShibuNub3305 2 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot this form existed, which surprises me because I remember the hype behind this form being substantial.
@GateK101
@GateK101 2 жыл бұрын
you don¡t play a lot of showdown, he is there 1 every 3 battles
@roblox_is_cringe351
@roblox_is_cringe351 2 жыл бұрын
Its just natural to forget greninja cuz the stupid story behind Journeys and Sun and moon is just awful. Plus Ash now has the mega evolving lucario which isn't even worth the hype cuz already 2 people have mega lucario and cuz of this lucario Greninja is just forgotten. I hate Pokemon company for ruining every gen after XYZ
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed they didn't give it cut and that battle bond didn't make it water and buff it's power. Would've been a nice physical water type attack replacement for waterfall.
@nycto5335
@nycto5335 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I remember when some people were expecting the starters to get special forms tied to the Trainers customization options because of ash-Greninja. Pokemon hype can really get crazy and its KZbin scene when games are about to release tends to just spew out random theories about stuff.
@SpiralSkylines
@SpiralSkylines 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.lholmes650 Sun and Moon is the worst thing to happen to Pokémon
@YunaLuni
@YunaLuni 2 жыл бұрын
SM OU Players: yeah...forgotten 😃
@AxelWedstar411
@AxelWedstar411 2 жыл бұрын
The ORAS and SM demos were fun. Kinda miss demos that do their own thing rather than just being the first hour or so of the game proper.
@sean1oo1
@sean1oo1 2 жыл бұрын
2016 was a wild time to be alive. The kalos league fiasco followed by the biggest leak Nintendo’s had ever. Cracking the demo and playing not only the full game but online matches WEEKS in advance will never feel more surreal 😂
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 2 жыл бұрын
>clean up your demo to prevent another ORAS leak >you forget to clean out the shinies Classic Gamefreak
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 2 жыл бұрын
It still annoys me that they did nothing for the Chesnaught and Delphox Fans. That isn't fair.
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 2 жыл бұрын
@Decidueye And Charizard getting a GMax while the other two and the Galar Starters don't get anything until DLC which was almost a year later. Dragapult should've gotten one for Leon.
@SprayCannon.
@SprayCannon. 2 жыл бұрын
It's not supposed to be like mega it was just a anime thing before sun and moon
@thegames4565
@thegames4565 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep I mean venasaur and blastoise at least got a mega, the most the gen 6 starters got was exposure to r34
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegames4565 Yeah. Delphox and Chesnaught need new hidden abilities and movepool.
@beatdowncentral6986
@beatdowncentral6986 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep Cry about it dude, life isn’t fair. The other 2 starters didn’t have as much promise as Greninja, get over it. It’s a freaking corporation their main priority is money.
@benedictdakirby9919
@benedictdakirby9919 2 жыл бұрын
Greninja ash The form that was counted to be a mega for some people i know Till home registered it as a alternative form
@LRAStartFox
@LRAStartFox 2 жыл бұрын
It's never been counted as a mega. Only one pokemon can mega evolve for each player in a battle
@daphenomenalz4100
@daphenomenalz4100 2 жыл бұрын
It's not mega lol, even groudon kyogre were not megas. Just like Zygarde
@benedictdakirby9919
@benedictdakirby9919 2 жыл бұрын
@@daphenomenalz4100 Some people said to me: is a mega And i was like: what The anime confused me because of some characters were saying that greninjash (name in spanish given by bonnie) was a mega or something like that
@JoeSmith-sx5gw
@JoeSmith-sx5gw 2 жыл бұрын
I know in the anime they said it was supposed to be stronger than Mega evolution even though it wasn’t mastered by Ash when he fought Dianthia before the league but it had her Mega Grandivor toe to toe if it had mastered it he would have beaten her in a 1 vs1
@benedictdakirby9919
@benedictdakirby9919 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-sx5gw add the fact dianthia is the weakest champeon
@Spumoon
@Spumoon 2 жыл бұрын
Darkrai is banned in competitive play? *TOBIAS CHEAT*
@Dumbplushadventures
@Dumbplushadventures 2 жыл бұрын
He used an action replay
@ShuraEssays
@ShuraEssays 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody in the anime read the rulebook except for Ash, who had an outdated one. After all, he said the pokemon league rules say only one at a time, and look where VGC is now.
@Sayem_Gaming80
@Sayem_Gaming80 Жыл бұрын
Dark void + Nightmare = Hakai
@sterling8389
@sterling8389 2 жыл бұрын
My only dislike for Ash-Greninja is that it comes in a form that no other pokemon get. While that wouldn't be a bad thing by itself, its the fact that it's a starter. As someone who liked Delphox and Chesnaught, I find it irritating that Greninja(already the most popular pokemon) got a form. Not only that, but in competitive, everything about Greninja is broken. It's stats are great, it's typing is great, it's movepool is great, and it even has an amazing ability in Protien. Ash-Greninja makes its stats better than most megas, while also having an easy to activate condition and the ability to hold an item. And don't forget it's signature move that is multi hit an priority, making even more difficult to deal with. Chesnaught and especially Delphox on the other hand still have to live with being very mediocre pokemon in comparison. Its been a couple of years and they still haven't gifted them new forms or buffs to help them keep up with Greninja. It's not forgotten at all, the other two starters are, and I think that's a real shame.
@completelyrandom8826
@completelyrandom8826 2 жыл бұрын
Chesnaut and delphox were both pretty bad design wise anyways
@daphenomenalz4100
@daphenomenalz4100 2 жыл бұрын
There's always one or two starters that are not so good in competitive, except gen 5😂 all of them were bad in competitive.
@LuLurret
@LuLurret 2 жыл бұрын
@@daphenomenalz4100 I mean Serperior was doing fine in OU in Sun and Moon. Not sure about Nat Dex in Gen 8.
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
It's really not that bad lol. It's best moves are water, dark and ice type. Thats it.
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
@@daphenomenalz4100 Serperior turned into a monster once it's Dreamworld ability came out
@Vantoxify
@Vantoxify 2 жыл бұрын
It was such a joy using Ash Greninja in my main playthrough of Sun and Moon, I'd love to use him in other games but we can't :(
@gkoug876
@gkoug876 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I was wrecking everyone with him and I will never forget it
@donovan802
@donovan802 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn’t consider him forgotten. I’ve been competing in various formats on Showdown a lot lately, including Gen 7 OU, which is the tier Greninja and Ash-Greninja are in. I and many frequently change between teams as to which ability we prefer. Incredibly strong, but not to the point it would be banned to Ubers like Protean Greninja back in Gen 6.
@megasecptile3996
@megasecptile3996 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still at a lost for words as of why they didn't ban that monster in Gen 7. Scarf Ash Gren just dominates if your wall/resist died earlier during the course of the battle. Granted it was KIND OF slowing the monster down but not enough to let it tear through the meta
@user-rn7wf7ry4s
@user-rn7wf7ry4s 2 жыл бұрын
​@@megasecptile3996 Ash gren only has one good set and that's specs. scarf is garbage, scarf ash-gren will struggle to land the first kill and never evolve. the only other set that could be considered is Z-water. one of the best counters to ash gren is assault vest tangrowth, because regenerator keeps you coming in on every move, and especially on spikes.
@megasecptile3996
@megasecptile3996 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rn7wf7ry4s That said. What about Scarf Kart? Scarf Lando? Even then, Gren can run a mixed set to deal with Tangrowth. Gunk Shot, U Turn, Ice Beam, Water Shuriken, etc. They can either kill or pick off Tangrowth. The thing about Scarf Ash Gren is that it is weak to faster mons or scarfed mons. Kart can easily 1v1 a Gren if it doesn't have a move to OHKO it
@user-rn7wf7ry4s
@user-rn7wf7ry4s 2 жыл бұрын
@@megasecptile3996 gunk shot, ice beam, and u turn are garbage options on ash gren. what the fuck are you gonna get rid of to run gunk shot, spikes? and to do what, 9% more than dark pulse vs standard tang and a chance to miss? spikes is your most important move. the other 2 options are just a joke that don't do anything relevant. just run regular gren at that point. scarf lando dies to transformed specs shuriken, and takes 24.45% min untransformed per shuriken. scarf kart takes 76-90% from transformed specs shuriken, which means it has a chance to die after taking spikes once, and always dies after taking spikes twice. if locking yourself in is a problem then just run it on rain with z-water. ash-gren is basically a solved mon, water stab, dark pulse, shuriken, spikes. specs or z-water. no other options besides maybe life orb, but taking all that chip on one of the best late-game cleaners is bad.
@vvmurphyvv
@vvmurphyvv 2 жыл бұрын
Choice specs + surf, water shuriken, dark pulse, ice beam + timid nature. Ahh S/M era showdown was a nice ride.
@outrageouslamp4539
@outrageouslamp4539 2 жыл бұрын
I always wished that they gave delphox and chesnaught battle bond forms. It's definitely an ability I'd like to see come back for other pokemon (even if they are restricted).
@SprayCannon.
@SprayCannon. 2 жыл бұрын
What trainer would they even bond with?It can't be Ash since in the anime they had a powerful bond
@outrageouslamp4539
@outrageouslamp4539 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprayCannon. It could just be the player character. Or other characters from the XYZ anime.
@anthonyle9788
@anthonyle9788 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprayCannon. Maybe Marin for Chespin and Serena for Delphox?
@Nixahma
@Nixahma 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprayCannon. If a random dude/girl can benefit from Ash's bond with a Greninja, we can give the other two forms with other people too.
@conic2721
@conic2721 2 жыл бұрын
@@SprayCannon. Clement and Serena probably. Even if Chespin isn't his Ace Pokémon it would work Serena's Ace was Eevee / Sylveon or whatever it's spelled but her Fenekin had an influence.
@jeremyetremblay6663
@jeremyetremblay6663 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never forgotten that form
@Edomatic
@Edomatic 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I remember I finished the demo back in 2016 but I was stupid and forgot to transfer everything to my full game, almost five years later about a week ago, I re-downloaded the demo and replayed Pokemon Moon. I like how this video proves I wasn’t the only one thinking about Ash Greninja at the time. I do hope one day I can have him in the later games.
@GatorEX
@GatorEX 2 жыл бұрын
I was rewatching this video and even I forgot about the jokes I make, lmao. (2:18)
@Necvi-C
@Necvi-C 2 жыл бұрын
never forgotten because that anime
@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime
@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime 2 жыл бұрын
I think gen 8 in general hates starters that aren’t gen 1 judging from the amount missing from that gen.
@nightmarishtaco3434
@nightmarishtaco3434 2 жыл бұрын
You can still get Ash-Greninja to this day, just redownload it from the eshop and redo the demo again and bam... You gotta a new ash greninja
@theshellderinslowbrostail5422
@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 2 жыл бұрын
Wait really? You can have multiple Ash Greninjas?
@melancholicthinker9291
@melancholicthinker9291 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 one per save file
@theshellderinslowbrostail5422
@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 2 жыл бұрын
@@melancholicthinker9291 so like if i trade myself the Ash Greninja and reset the file I can still get another one?
@nightmarishtaco3434
@nightmarishtaco3434 2 жыл бұрын
@@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 yes ^v^ I've done it myself
@thecringekid1929
@thecringekid1929 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best part about getting one for me was reliving the enjoyment I got from the XY anime when I could finally battle with my ash greninja
@thatskool1111
@thatskool1111 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at Simpsons meme.😂👌🏼
@Y0kAiS
@Y0kAiS 2 жыл бұрын
He’s paying for his crimes I guess. Lol
@MandoMahri
@MandoMahri 2 жыл бұрын
I love ash greninja he was definitely one of my mvps on my sun team!
@legreedysqueegee
@legreedysqueegee 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on, can anyone explain why Phione is banned? It's literally just a weaker Manaphy
@themuffinman147
@themuffinman147 2 жыл бұрын
Exclusivity
@tangerinepaint3643
@tangerinepaint3643 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t be obtained unless you breed a Manaphy with a Ditto, and guess what Manaphy is
@legreedysqueegee
@legreedysqueegee 2 жыл бұрын
@@tangerinepaint3643 Manaphy is only obtained through Ranger and Events. Phione has an easily... """Easily""" accessible breed. Giving the Pokemon the Trainers name and ID
@bigmonke3348
@bigmonke3348 2 жыл бұрын
Mythical Pokemon being banned just for being mythical and not for their strength is stupid. Mythical Pokemon are literally useless to have if you want to play official vgc.
@themuffinman147
@themuffinman147 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmonke3348 what point of exclusivity makes it hard to understand though?
@LegoReader12345hello
@LegoReader12345hello 2 жыл бұрын
I have been playing Ultra sun for some time, I'm waiting until the rest of the pokemon arrive in the switch games, and ash greninja was one of my favorites
@nolangerrans6083
@nolangerrans6083 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw ash greninja, I assumed it was a lead up to special mega evolutions for the kalos starters that had little bits of the design that would change based on your characters appearance, since mega evolution was all about the bond with your Pokémon, the kalos starters were all based on rpg roles(warrior, mage, and rogue), and kalos had the big feature of character customization.
@adnef0388
@adnef0388 2 жыл бұрын
Used one in my first sun and moon team, loved it
@rogue1248
@rogue1248 2 жыл бұрын
forgotten? PLEASE, i still remember that boi even till today (and wishing he'd be available for a gen 8 dex expansion..)
@EmmEDroid
@EmmEDroid 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how ash Greninja made it into smash too through the ultimate version of his final smash
@unspeakableflame292
@unspeakableflame292 2 жыл бұрын
Naw man that was just Greninja
@alibaba3568
@alibaba3568 2 жыл бұрын
Choice Specs Battle Bond Gren MVP
@nibot2101
@nibot2101 2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget my favorite pokemon
@Oodelally
@Oodelally 2 жыл бұрын
I loved using this in the main game when it came out!
@zerocal1908
@zerocal1908 2 жыл бұрын
Raichu: welcome to... oh wait you still popular, you're not ready to join us for now.
@ayame8095
@ayame8095 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my level 100 Ash Greninja who carried me in my first play of usum
@ashgrininja1659
@ashgrininja1659 2 жыл бұрын
It will NEVER be forgotten
@aquiredtasteforfreeformjaz1751
@aquiredtasteforfreeformjaz1751 2 жыл бұрын
I want to do a playthrough of usum where I start off with a froakie that when it evolves into Greninja it has battle bond
@BoyFromBelgium99
@BoyFromBelgium99 2 жыл бұрын
Ash-Greninja is my favorite pokémon. The reason Ash-Greninja was in the Sun & Moon demo instead of X & Y was because of the date it aired in Japan (December 10, 2015). This is 10 months & 8 days before the demo was released and 11 months and 8 days before the worldwide release of Sun & Moon. This means that the development of both the demo & the game were already close of being finished and so it was a nice addition to your playthrough. It's banned competitively because of many reasons. One of these reasons is that it still could use a held item, that means a z-move could've been used. Then there is also the fact of it's BST. It could outspeed most pokémon and just sweep. In addition to this he also got a lot of moves he could learn, with coverage moves like Aerial Ace, Extrasensory and even use Substitute and Double Team. I get that they banned the form for competitive play because otherwise it would've had a nerf, similar to Aegislash had in Sword & Shield now. It's design and it's role in the anime is simply the best like no pokémon ever was. It's a pokémon close to my heart because XYZ is the first I watched the anime completely in Japanese, English & Dutch and as a Greninja fan too, this was just mindblowing for me. I also enjoyed it in Moon & Ultra Moon, being my ace and sweeping through both games within hours. Even Ultra Necrozma stood no chance against me.
@velk-66791
@velk-66791 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being so hyped while watching the anime. I didn't even know they brough Ash-Greninja to the games.
@ellymercyhnem
@ellymercyhnem 2 жыл бұрын
i have not forgotten ash greninja this is because i am a pokemon fan and pay attention to it and i play a pokemon game and ash greninja was my dream pokemon in it which means i have not forgotten all about it
@alfroblox1gaming519
@alfroblox1gaming519 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine bonding with a Pokémon over its life and then just abandoning it for the next season
@KiloCreates0_0
@KiloCreates0_0 2 жыл бұрын
Man the memories of seeing that episode where he first became ash greninja was so great
@Sprigatito687
@Sprigatito687 3 ай бұрын
Mind you the Starters are getting Megas in Legends ZA along with a potential Mega zoruak
@nathanwaterser8218
@nathanwaterser8218 Жыл бұрын
Now in gen 9 Battle Bond only gives a stat boost, it doesn't change form anymore
@squee-g1658
@squee-g1658 2 жыл бұрын
He was so pissed being banned he went to smash
@foxtron1276
@foxtron1276 Жыл бұрын
It truly is crazy that they entirely gave up on Pokemon Z. Since Gen 1, the third game was always the highlight. What's the best game in Gen 2? Crystal. What's the best game in Gen 3? Emerald. What's the best game in Gen 4? Platinum. After Gen 5, when Shigeru Ohmari starting to get involved with the direction of the games, it seems that passion has gone out of the window. It's all about how fast the money rolls in, nowadays. I truly don't see why Masuda would leave his legacy, that he was so proud to have created and had filled with so much passion, to a man who would simply strain the franchise to its marketable limit. Ohmari started to direct games in Gen 6, at around the time ORAS was in development. Also around the time that Pokemon Z was entirely discarded. In the anime XY/XYZ, Ash-Greninja was introduced. They did not include it in X and Y, most likely as it was planned to be a feature of Pokemon Z. So it was added later, disguised as an addition to keep people satisfied and from inquiring further into it. They did not want people to discover the fact that they had even started a Pokemon Z, let alone discarded it. Zygarde was introduced as some insignificant legendary in a cave somewhere, and it wasn't until Sun and Moon that it was given the ability to change form. Does anybody know the backstory of Zygarde? Probably the people working on it's story, before it was erased. Other than that, I would think not. ORAS also lacked the Battle Frontier, which was a huge part of RSE. Why? They rushed it so that they could focus on the development of Sun and Moon, most likely. They had never done that sort of thing before without immediately solving the issues in the third game. Another interesting thing is that Sun and Moon introduced regional variants, which are just an easier method to churn out new Pokemon effortlessly. This creates more to sell and market. It truly puzzles me how a man with passion would leave his legacy to a man of greed. It simply doesn't seem right. Have you ever noticed how there had never been 2 games following a main series, other than B2W2? However, B2W2 are very different from USUM. Black and White are prior to the story of B2W2, as is mentioned many times in the story. The story is very clearly a follow on from the original story. As well as the fact that in "White 2", you obtain Reshiram, and in "Black 2", you obtain Zekrom; the remaining Pokemon that you did not capture in the corresponding previous game. You also have a different house, a different rival, a different route, a different hometown, a different Mom, and are very clearly a different person. You can even go to the games' original house, and speak to the original Mom about her child who "Went to find N". Whereas in USUM, it is never mentioned that is it a separate game. "Sun" contains the same legendary as "Ultra Sun", "Moon" contains the same legendary as "Ultra Moon". You have the same house, same route, same professor, same story and even same rival. They slapped on a couple of extra features, an additional "Post Game Story", called it a new game and then sold two of them, rather than one. They knew that would do better, financially. It worked. It's disappointing that a decade old love of mine has become nothing more than a selfish business. Sure, you can absolutely argue that it always has been. I do not disagree. But at least before now, that selfish business had love for what it was doing. No longer.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy Жыл бұрын
Third versions are always the worst selling games in a generation, and GF couldn't have that for the 20th anniversary (furthermore, gen 6 is the gen that sold the less games of them all so there's that).
@MorrisPXG
@MorrisPXG Жыл бұрын
I think if he returns to Gen 9 with Battle Bond Ability,He won’t be banned Hey it's me from the future,GRENINJA GOT INSNANELY NERFED AND I WILL PROTEST OF BRINGING BACK ASH GRENINJA
@seriousquil7161
@seriousquil7161 2 жыл бұрын
Same with a lot moves were left behind, like signal beam.
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 2 жыл бұрын
Smogon: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that (I know it's not official, but seriously that monster ruled OU)
@Yinyanyeow
@Yinyanyeow 2 жыл бұрын
That frog got too much fudge-ing attention. Where was the love for Delphox or my main boy Chesnaught?
@kylellesol8750
@kylellesol8750 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having your pc and inventory has full of greninja
@brunolinares604
@brunolinares604 2 жыл бұрын
And nothing of value was lost
@aaronfield7899
@aaronfield7899 2 жыл бұрын
So you have chosen death
@cony0663
@cony0663 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed 😌
@Shinyprofjareth
@Shinyprofjareth 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry I never forgot it's one of favorite parts of gen 7
@artisticfox_vw
@artisticfox_vw 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Ash-Greninja Me: G r e n i n j *a s h*
@okapi_q
@okapi_q 2 жыл бұрын
I am just hoping that whatever new game that allows you to transfer Greninja will keep Battle Bond. The fact that you can put Battle Bond Greninja into Home with no trouble is nice but I still fear that it will turn into Torrent when you put it in a newer game.
@sarcasm-aplenty
@sarcasm-aplenty 2 жыл бұрын
Like when you try to transfer surfing pikachus but you can't without deleting the move surf
@jarrodroy
@jarrodroy 2 жыл бұрын
I still have this Pokemon, transferred it to Home and didn’t pay for another year so he’s just trapped there now
@slyfrailzz
@slyfrailzz 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my boi. He took me through so much.
@orangetomato4315
@orangetomato4315 2 жыл бұрын
ash greninja can't be forgotten because how it stands out
@THEONEPIECE13579
@THEONEPIECE13579 Жыл бұрын
imagine this thing with loaded dice in S/V
@ghostsisterspookydogwood4360
@ghostsisterspookydogwood4360 2 жыл бұрын
Pokemon + hat = I WANT IT!
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 2 жыл бұрын
They should bring him back as a post-game bonus or even implement new game+ mechanics and give him to us at the beginning
@donkarasu-9644
@donkarasu-9644 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be forgotten when it still shows up in stuff like Smash Ultimate. But yeah, you'd think power creep would hold it back a bit, but nah. I love Greninja, and its Ash form is a sweet bonus.
@Blue-fg8vt
@Blue-fg8vt 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... Ice climbers.
@zomorion9183
@zomorion9183 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@jonath56_gaming
@jonath56_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I never ever forget ash's greninja ever
@andresrincon7240
@andresrincon7240 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful minion
@idontcheckmynotifications
@idontcheckmynotifications 2 жыл бұрын
Remember how those demos were datamined snd they found all the megas snd new pokemon lol
@gabrielevalentini4438
@gabrielevalentini4438 2 жыл бұрын
1:54: Still wondering if she will ever make it to the actual game one day😂
@shima3505
@shima3505 2 жыл бұрын
ash greninja is a collection for those who played the demo
@rodolfoleon4538
@rodolfoleon4538 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else remember a zygarde form above 100 percent? I remember on the Pokemon website that for a brief moment that it was on there before they took it down?
@skacalaca
@skacalaca 2 жыл бұрын
thought I transferred all my pokemon across to USUL when i was restarting my game, I completely forgot this bad boy existed and now he is gone forever :"(
@zeldasaurusrex1647
@zeldasaurusrex1647 2 ай бұрын
the coolest fucking water type ever
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad 2 жыл бұрын
I had it in my collection, but accidentally wiped it from reality after not paying for my pokebank since I never moved it off of it for some reason
@commander_frog
@commander_frog 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, how the heck did we all just ignore this existed
@byrontheusurper6505
@byrontheusurper6505 2 жыл бұрын
I need to get into pokemon again man. The xy anime looked mad good!
@wearegogeta9974
@wearegogeta9974 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is still waiting in Pokémon home for the day he will return. Cmon game freak, just give him back!
@rossanderson4156
@rossanderson4156 2 жыл бұрын
If you played any gen 7 OU, you could never forget this threat. If he got battle bond it was gg most of the time, what a beast
@user-pn9cs2zx6m
@user-pn9cs2zx6m 2 жыл бұрын
you get your mythical pokemon from a delivery man nice ❤
@Flipcrash
@Flipcrash 2 жыл бұрын
That Simpson clip hurts, we arnt that gullible are we
@JuiceVendr
@JuiceVendr 2 жыл бұрын
I've still got my Ash Greninja, never used him much but he's in my special mon box in Home
@blendedziphon8562
@blendedziphon8562 2 жыл бұрын
Been a while since I've actually used Ash Greninja
@hermie0600
@hermie0600 2 жыл бұрын
I have never forgot about Ash-Greninja mainly cause i play on smogon
@Legoless
@Legoless 2 жыл бұрын
I got this dude and sent him straight to HOME
@dr.mendezm.d6486
@dr.mendezm.d6486 2 жыл бұрын
Pokemon unite: ah shit here we go again
@DoctorPhileasFragg
@DoctorPhileasFragg 2 жыл бұрын
That simpsons reference is exactly how I feel about Galarian Weezing.
@carlos8495
@carlos8495 2 жыл бұрын
But as a tf2 player im a simple man, i see Pokemon with hat so i like it
@ShuraEssays
@ShuraEssays 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about greninja, despite how awesome a pokemon it is, will always be how Water Shuriken is no longer its signature move, but IS the signature move of Accelgor, of all pokemon.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
Ash-Greninja, banned from the anime and games lmao.
@vedlab6669
@vedlab6669 2 жыл бұрын
i still have it in my pokemon sun game
@korstrom
@korstrom 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ash-greninja in home. I'm sad I cant use it currently.
@DoctorPhileasFragg
@DoctorPhileasFragg 2 жыл бұрын
REGULAR Greninja is a fan-favorite.
@Omniscient_Reader-villain
@Omniscient_Reader-villain 2 жыл бұрын
Greninja will return in 20 April officially confirmed 2022
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. While ash greninja still lives on in our hearts (Sorry for being cringe), the pokemon company has mostly forgotten about it.
@RidiculousAnimationsAeos
@RidiculousAnimationsAeos 2 жыл бұрын
I hope we can bring greninja to gen 9 when it comes!
@ProfessionalNon
@ProfessionalNon 2 жыл бұрын
simply, it's a better mega evo (110 base increase instead of 100) that can wield items. I think it's kinda reasonable for a ban.
@tokidoki9001
@tokidoki9001 2 жыл бұрын
I mean mega ray wasn’t banned lmao
@sillyhellhound8797
@sillyhellhound8797 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the demo is still available.
@BraydenDarrell
@BraydenDarrell 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile two days ago I redownloaded the demo just to get this thing again. Kinda weird how this happened the same day you made your vid
@nikhilbannerjee5126
@nikhilbannerjee5126 2 жыл бұрын
Greninja 🤣🤣🤣 design look like he always choking on his tongue
@jezus_o2659
@jezus_o2659 2 жыл бұрын
2:48 I can relate to this 😂
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