JC Bach: Keyboard Concerto in E-flat, Op.7 No.5 (Knauer)

[@herrbrucvald6376]

You can hear the melodic DNA of Mozart's piano concertos peeking out all over this delightful and subtle piece!

[@paulbraunstein2290]

He actually taught Mozart when he was around 8

[@qp7834]

Literally I’m like I hear Mozart inspiration

[@Porronett]

@@paulbraunstein2290 Actually, some historians say that Mozart wrote music in London at that age imitating J.C. Bach style after watching him

[@aw43210]

This is such an underrated concerto! Simply sublime.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

JC Bach’s Opus 7 concertos ‘for harpsichord or fortepiano’ were published in London in 1770 are are very fine works. These concertos are better performed on the more expressive piano rather than the harpsichord as JC’s idiomatic keyboard writing is clearly for the more modern instrument. Opus 7 Nos 1 - 4 are all in just two movements; Nos 5 and 6 are both in three and are therefore more recognisably modern (ie Mozartian). You are quite right about how you rate No 5 - it’s JC at his very best. Note: JC wrote six lovely harpsichord concertos Opus 1 (1763), the last movement of No 6 being a set of variations on ‘God Save the King’ - a neat tribute to his adopted country. Regarding the choice of keyboard instrument: works were published all over Europe until at least the end of the century as ‘for harpsichord or piano’ in order to boost sales; in fact in almost all cases, they were clearly conceived for one or the other, but could be played on either. There are also six more modern concertos - the very fine Opus 13 - published in 1777. All these keyboard concertos - plus a few odds and ends - are all worth seeking out, as is almost everything else by this fine composer.

[@KneeJerkish]

What is its rating?

[@philippegallo1557]

Toujours cette vivacité de JC BACH, on croirait des volutes tellement cette musique est légère, très aérienne !! Quels délices ce compositeur !

[@alexkirk9483]

Thanks Bach for his son. One of greatest of his era!!!

[@MaartenBauer]

Please do more J. C. Bach! He is really underrated!

[@KneeJerkish]

What is his rating?

[@MaartenBauer]

@@KneeJerkish 10/10

[@pandas_crochet_corner]

Heard this for the first time in my music history class today- LOVE IT!

[@peterborrows4605]

A beautifully articulated performance of a piece and composer that deserve greater recognition.

[@darrelljacobi7541]

Totally in love with JC Bach!! Thanks for posting!!

[@Gigi-14]

I remember playing this piece in concert. It was joyful and fun. 🎻

[@parnianpayvand8491]

Wow, the brief description by Mr. (Dr.?) Kumar is one of the best, concise, razor-sharp and informative pieces of writing about a composer and his music. I guess Mr. (Dr.) Kumar is a music teacher with a comprehensive and impressive knowledge of classical music. Many thanks for all this!

[@mariuspollux5428]

J.C.'s Op. 13 No. 6 Is equally as lyrical and beautiful. The development explores the circle of fifths and it is really fun to play!

[@sebastiancienfuegos2013]

Majestuoso, pues como no componer asi teniendo de padre al mas grande entre los grandes Gloria a Johann Sebastian Bach.

[@empireentertainmentevents1353]

JC Bach's glorious piece here is his own. He doesnt sound like Mozart here. I appreciate his creative improvising on the main melody here.

[@mereyeslacalle]

Gorgeous !! Thanks for the historic review , is excellent !

[@thomasjohn5037]

The opening movement of Mozart's 17th piano concerto has the exact similar passage as that in bars 9 - 11 in the 1st movement of this concerto.

[@darrenfreeman4936]

I heard that too. The theme also reminds me of mozarts 27th

[@johncitizen9540]

I can't believe I have never heard of this pianist.

[@bronktug2446]

composer, harpsichordist, pianist and more..

[@mirco1piano]

Operist

[@jjuuaannii1]

Holly shit. What a beatiful cadenza.

[@aadhiash0189]

One of my favorite pieces!! Awesome Quality!!

[@williamdane4194]

Brilliantly inventive!

[@Alix777.]

I really appreciate your effort for explaining each pieces, and of course the scores. Must be a lot of work. Great channel, thanks a lot

[@gayerest]

So pleasant.

[@andrewpianojunkie]

Remind me so much of some Classical greats.

[@MaartenBauer]

This is great! Could you do more J.C. Bach?

[@steveb1739]

Fantastic performance. As is Anastasia Injushinas' / Hamburger Cameratas version :)

[@rachelmason6359]

I prefer this one it is brighter

[@marcosPRATA918]

Uma pérola da textura homofônica.

[@thornlesser8994]

Knauer is fantastic in this music . Ingrid Haebler's artistry and touch is the benchmark for this era ! She too recorded J.C.Bach .

[@xcj1982]

It feels more clásical than his father!

[@user-ff3rm1jr1o]

Es Hermosa su musica

[@Eeeehhhsoudesuka]

Using part of JC Bach's op 5 no 3 sonata as part of the cadenza?? Ha! Nice one!

[@lorddorogoth]

Nice cadenza

[@momoalnajjar]

If I didn't know this was by JC Bach, I would've thought it was by WA Mozart.

[@FougarouBe]

When JC Bach lassed away WA Mozart said "The Great Bach died" ...

[@fugueholic]

I exactly had thought the same.

[@mirco1piano]

Mozart was higly inspired by J. C. Bach and J. Schobert

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Mirco Asprella JC indubitably and lifelong; Schobert briefly when Mozart met him as a boy in Paris.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Jean-François Pigeolet With respect, Mozart did not say this. It is important, particularly when quoting someone, to be accurate and not to introduce completely spurious words such as ‘The Great…’ as you have done here. Mozart did not refer to JC Bach as ‘The Great…’. Mozart in his letter of 10 April 1782 to his father from Vienna, referred to Christian Bach as ‘the English Bach’; the word ‘englisch’ used in Mozart’s original German does not translate as ‘The Great…’ into English, French, Italian, nor any other commonly used language of the time. The words of Mozart are usually rendered accurately into English as: ‘You probably know already that the English Bach died? What a loss for the world of music’.

[@canman5060]

My primary school graduation piece.My teacher is such a strict and demanding ......... !

[@martyn447]

😃😃😀😍😍

[@zakazaka4459]

3:03

[@thethikboy]

Fresh and innovative - the full on gallant style but I believe Mozart gracefully shepherded it to what came to be known as the Viennese classical style. A simpler lyrical aesthetic of unearthly beauty.

[@Alexmalism]

I mean, there’re traces of the gallant style but even this concerto is already in full-fledged classical style

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@Alexmalism You are quite right: it is also worth pointing out that galant, empfindsamer Stil, sturm und drang, and a number of other styles are all parts of the wider ‘Classical’ style of c.1750 - 1800.

[@OnASeasideMission]

So hard to pick favourites. Until it comes to Johann Christian.

[@xoxosour]

Ahora se uno de los inspiradores de mozart

[@dankaradakovic3218]

Wow

[@ripplingwaterz123]

Anyone know where to find the score to cadenza?

[@juhwangsaek]

J.C.Bach : piano concerto in Eb Op.7

[@zhihaozhang7861]

why i can only read piano score? Where is violins scores?

[@discerenecessa9062]

@Ashish Xiangyi Kumar: Do you know the year this was composed in?

[@mirco1piano]

1770 was published in London

[@Cephalopoda]

I was asked the other day who were the most _important_ composers. I said I really wasn't sure... Beethoven yep. Probably Wagner too for effectively creating film music. Maybe Stravinsky. Haydn huge in setting norms in a way Mozart doesn't so much. "Bach?" Well... Maybe JC is actually _more influential_ than JS there? Being linearly on the way to classical in a way that JS wasn't. Maybe!

[@quocanh-f9u]

Son of J.S.Bach, J C bach was one of the earliest composers of Classics era. His melody in this concerto sounds so pleasant and relaxing, but to me, nothing impressive, I'm just used to music of Hayđn and Mozart at that time.

[@MaestroTJS]

It's the difference between being at the beginning of a style and toward the end of it. We don't hear much by early Baroque or pre-Romantics either. That's also why I think a lot of the 20th century composers (and contemporary as well, of course) that some people think were so important or amazing will also eventually be forgotten.

[@redredblood1]

Does anyone know where you can find the chamber orchestra score for this? I know it existed originally as a piano quartet but I can’t find this arrangement anywhere

[@mirco1piano]

It's a concert for harpsichord or piano 2 violin and basses. I've all the parts of the first edition

[@Juraberg]

👍🏻

[@MegaMech]

The keyboard part is written out for the entire piece so how come it only comes in on the solos?

[@mirco1piano]

That only a guide for the solist or better a guide to make the continuo in the tutti and follia the strings

[@user-gh3it9fm4x]

Музыка напоминает В.А.Моцарта! Здесь явная ошибка, это стиль Моцарта!

[@user-yj1ku5gb9c]

Нет,как раз-таки.У Моцарта в аппликатуре не написаны теорбы,как у Кристиана Баха. Этот композитор ближе к промежуточному периоду- Галантному (Смесь Классицизма и Барокко)

[@user-gh3it9fm4x]

Ой, да, Прошу прощения! Это же сын Себястьяна Баха - Кристиан, с которым был знаком В.Моцарт и он оказал на него влияние!

[@williamdane4194]

It’s as if he and Mozart were related...on the same wavelength.

[@PartySpock]

This is Mozart

[@tongzhouguo6765]

"When JC Bach was born JS Bach was already 50", exactly, and JC Bach is 3 years yonger than Haydn.

[@johnkusske7535]

JC Bach was more of an influence on Mozart's early composing style than was Leopold. Later, though, Haydn became Mozart's biggest influence.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

John Kusske I get your point and you are basically right; the little boy Mozart sat on the knee of JC in London in 1764 and 1765 was clearly getting a major formative input - particularly after the initial years of his father’s basics (Mozart must have found JC a fascinating breath of fresh air). However, regarding Haydn, I’m not sure it was ‘influence’ so much as the fact that as the only composer of a comparable stature, Haydn challenged and stimulated Mozart in a way that no other composer could. Mozart’s response to Haydn’s Opus 33 string quartets being an obvious example in that they led to Mozart’s own six ‘Haydn’ quartets - an uncommissioned and by Mozartian standards, an extremely lengthy labour of love, freely given and dedicated to his great friend. There are lots of other examples besides. The example of the direct and specific impact of Haydn’s Opus 33 stimulating Mozart’s six quartets dedicated to Haydn, goes way beyond any general stylistic influence exerted even by JC Bach.

[@ludwigvanbeethoven8164]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 well said. But unfortunately. Youre a nerd for knowing that much

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 A little knowledge allows one to comment more meaningfully. It also helps to avoid the peril of many KZbin commentators whose views demonstrate so clearly the point that an opinion is a judgement not necessarily based on knowledge and understanding. I’m actually just an ordinary person, and little different from yourself; my comment above is pretty basic stuff that anyone could have written, if that makes me a nerd, ok.

[@paulbraunstein2290]

5:33-5:43 Baroque. Then right after that back to Classical/Gallant

[@adanayup9268]

Esto es Mozart no Bach

[@adanayup9268]

Biien...

[@GUILLOM]

Es jc bach

[@flaviopresutti]

Who is here for Paul Gilbert? Give it a like!

[@bronktug2446]

whom?

[@celerywarrior6493]

Gilberto Concerto - J.C. Bach Harpsichord Concerto in A Major (Allegro)

[@tepm3848]

Keyboard concerto jesus christ

[@Rodrigodbf]

Sorry, but I really doubt that this is Bach... For sure it is Mozart or another classical composer, but I can't hear anything that nearly resembles Bach music in here.

[@AshishXiangyiKumar]

JC Bach. Not JS.

[@mirco1piano]

It's Johann Chrstian Bach the last son 1735-1782 one of the model of the young Mozart

[@alexkirk9483]

Thanks Bach for his son. One of greatest of his era!!!

[@calebhu6383]

3:30

[@ezgionat4907]

3:35