Skateology: Hardflip (1000 fps slow motion)

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Adam Shomsky

Adam Shomsky

Күн бұрын

Good news for all the haters! I re-filmed the hardflip skateology with some legit proper-ass hardflips. Check it out here • Skateology: hardflip p...
This is my Skateology video for hardflips. These clips were filmed at 1,000 frames per second with a Redlake N3 high speed camera at 1280x720 resolution. Skaters include Wes Wallace, Kurt Raymond (0:28 & 1:29), Zach Miyamoto (1:00), Dylan Phipps (1:12 & 2:14)), Scott Hartzel (1:49), Alex Knox (1:56), and Wes Johnson (2:26).
I literally had about 20 minutes of hardflip footage and I had to leave a lot of good ones out to get it down to a reasonable length. I wanted to show the two major styles of hardflips, which are the ones that are popped basically straight up with little or no flick with the front foot (like Dylan at 1:12) and the other looks more like a frontside shuv-it kickflip (like Kurt at 0:29).
Thanks to Dunian for the music. This song is called Mind Body Mind. www.myspace.com...

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@MacieJay
@MacieJay 12 жыл бұрын
Kids are so lucky now! Back when i first started skating I was on the VCR pausing shaky ass VHS tapes.
@jesuschristsonofgod9709
@jesuschristsonofgod9709 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@J4themperor
@J4themperor 4 жыл бұрын
Kids are striving to be as good as you on R6 now
@iwhbyourdaddy
@iwhbyourdaddy 4 жыл бұрын
oh hi macie, small world
@strawgrass9681
@strawgrass9681 4 жыл бұрын
macie jay out in the wild 8 years ago holy fuck haha
@Notorious1210
@Notorious1210 4 жыл бұрын
Omg its Macie J, 8yrs ago?!?!???
@rodolfocamarena3852
@rodolfocamarena3852 10 жыл бұрын
Watching these kind of videos help more than a trick tip, seriously.
@Dontbustthecrust
@Dontbustthecrust 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@0xscoopta
@0xscoopta 5 жыл бұрын
Probably depends on your learning style. But I agree
@inhalergang5811
@inhalergang5811 4 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@inhalergang5811
@inhalergang5811 4 жыл бұрын
You analyze every single motion and frame and how the feet move and placement etc and apply it viola how I got tre flips
@swarajdweeprabha1841
@swarajdweeprabha1841 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jakestockton4808
@jakestockton4808 8 жыл бұрын
The road leading to mastered hardflips is paved with countless nut-checks.
@benediktmandel7705
@benediktmandel7705 6 жыл бұрын
It's worth it
@cobyearley5781
@cobyearley5781 6 жыл бұрын
true dat, but it's worth it
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not worth it. If you get 10 bad ice picks money says you’ll think hard before you do it again. Now a back foot impossible. That is a rewarding flip. With much less risk
@5iris743
@5iris743 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Brame c o m m i t m e n t
@cameronheskett1243
@cameronheskett1243 4 жыл бұрын
dolphin flips are worse for that
@braunihawk
@braunihawk 3 жыл бұрын
After 20 years, Hardflip still looks so strange to me
@tylerheard3982
@tylerheard3982 Жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s such a cool trick
@yvonnegabin467
@yvonnegabin467 3 жыл бұрын
I just LOVE it when thres goofy and regular clips,so everyone can understand the trick easier
@Hide_and_Tweak
@Hide_and_Tweak 8 жыл бұрын
just understand visually what's happening is one of the hardest flip
@alamcho
@alamcho 5 жыл бұрын
this is a weird flip. my brain does not undertand the rotation
@limpan0510
@limpan0510 5 жыл бұрын
Its like a vertical front shuv with a kickflip in it lmao it looks Good tho
@dhardthesk8er835
@dhardthesk8er835 5 жыл бұрын
I just see it as a 180 kickflip
@stakinator14
@stakinator14 5 жыл бұрын
Frontside flip but your body doesn’t rotate
@therealcauds
@therealcauds 5 жыл бұрын
Its like half a varial flip...they make even less sense in slow mo to be honest...still cant fully wrap my head around this flip lol
@therealcauds
@therealcauds 5 жыл бұрын
I read your first comment after i said that and it made more sense. If you dont move your body during and fs flip its pretty much the same thing. But yeah weird trick always loved it
@nicholasjohnson1200
@nicholasjohnson1200 5 жыл бұрын
Half these flips were higher than I can Ollie.
@elijahcuyler5667
@elijahcuyler5667 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Johnson a lot of flip tricks are easier to pop then Ollies
@XavielYouTube
@XavielYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
Hardflips in general require lots of pop
@lime2615
@lime2615 3 жыл бұрын
same.
@noahjohansson9468
@noahjohansson9468 3 жыл бұрын
my first switch hardflip was higher than my highest kickflip. its just because the way it flips before you catch it makes it go really high
@iflxnk3986
@iflxnk3986 7 жыл бұрын
2:10 the board tho lol
@lostcheese9535
@lostcheese9535 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I thought it was gonna break
@duckdoctors
@duckdoctors 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just acknowledge how good this song is.
@unitus.
@unitus. 9 жыл бұрын
1:12 oh my lord that was beautiful
@denny574
@denny574 4 жыл бұрын
Unitus Bright bruh i know i just saw this and thought the same thing
@kidwilly5446
@kidwilly5446 4 жыл бұрын
Fast Internet hi
@vecchioutente
@vecchioutente 4 жыл бұрын
@Fast Internet hi
@spion098
@spion098 4 жыл бұрын
Was that one even a hardflip? Didn't look like his front foot even did anything lol
@zPoyzn
@zPoyzn 4 жыл бұрын
@@spion098 i think its actually a pressure hardflip
@powerswish
@powerswish 11 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate how tough it is for some people like me to learn hardflips, but I've never thought they looked good. They look like someone missed their intended trick but still landed anyway.
@orrcazz
@orrcazz 11 жыл бұрын
That one starting at 2:12 is practically a pressure flip! Front foot just gets out of the way!
@alphabetApperatus
@alphabetApperatus 8 жыл бұрын
ever since I skated on acid, I've realized that skateboarding was one of the most poetic things ever...the sound of the wheels, the *pop* of the deck 😍
@subie1507
@subie1507 7 жыл бұрын
Kail Habib lol wut?
@gannon3816
@gannon3816 5 жыл бұрын
You sound stupid as fuck
@loveandnapalm
@loveandnapalm 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do drugs and wax poetic about meaningless wooden toys, but every time I try to buy acid I either get scared because the kids that sell it call me a nerd and give me swirlies or my feeble mind realizes it can't handle such profound realizations about the world as yours. If only I could be as cool and deep as you...
@nerad1994
@nerad1994 5 жыл бұрын
Kail Habib that makes sense, psychedelics open you up to a new realm of perception and appreciation
@erickmorales5499
@erickmorales5499 5 жыл бұрын
skateboarding saved me when I was having a bad trip. was contemplating life and realized skateboarding will always be there no matter what. giving me meaning to life
@TheDarkness4560
@TheDarkness4560 8 жыл бұрын
for all the people that think those are pressure flips. all those hardflips are set up (back foot) like a bs pop shove to let the hardflip's be more vertical and in that position you can't pressure hardflip because if everything would be pressure in that position it would look like a varial heel but u can clearly see the kick flip motion in those.
@elijahnichols7305
@elijahnichols7305 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite tricks of all time
@blakolawton5205
@blakolawton5205 6 жыл бұрын
The original hardflip started out as a flip trick in the 90$ when the board would flipped completely vertical..which gave it that name for it's beauty and difficulty
@fourteenants
@fourteenants 5 жыл бұрын
90$
@daxberry566
@daxberry566 5 жыл бұрын
Well it’s easier to do a vertical hardflip than a proper hardflip
@barbaloka4520
@barbaloka4520 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh!!! The vertical HARD flip is magical 🔥!!! The shovited hard flip is just cool 👍🏻
@tomalophicon
@tomalophicon 2 жыл бұрын
wrong
@lrysmt
@lrysmt Жыл бұрын
First hardflip done on film was by daewon son? And was dubbed the inward kickflip or something sort of like that. Completely sideways
@semimealways8289
@semimealways8289 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite skateboard flip. Looks so cool!! Inward heels also. (Same trick instead of kickflip if you didn't know)
@aceyly3530
@aceyly3530 4 жыл бұрын
No buddy thats a varial heel an inward heel is a pop shuvit and a heel flip
@da7nesman
@da7nesman 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much for these slow mo vids! I have even more respect for skaters now that I see clearly what you can make that board do.
@venetask8ter
@venetask8ter 12 жыл бұрын
This video might actually help me learn these. The slow mo really helps break down exactly what's happening. Love these Skateology vids!
@dirtydan1764
@dirtydan1764 10 жыл бұрын
the most awkward flip trick
@megaog4999
@megaog4999 7 жыл бұрын
its not really when you get em down, it just starts to come together
@DeviatedDocs
@DeviatedDocs 5 жыл бұрын
Inward heel. When I can land that shit I will feel accomplished
@commentcontrol7187
@commentcontrol7187 5 жыл бұрын
@rocket grunt some people are natural heelflippers
@semimealways8289
@semimealways8289 5 жыл бұрын
@@commentcontrol7187 Facts!!!!! Heelflips is so much easier to me. It's hard to kick that flip instead of swipe back. Everybody learned kickflip before heel. I learned heels first and even today heels are easier. (Im goofy, dunno if that explains anything, propably not. First when i tried to flip, i tried heel so maybe by that way it feels more natural to me)
@BONESBRUH
@BONESBRUH 2 жыл бұрын
@@commentcontrol7187 I learnt heelflips and hardflips before kickies hah
@kommandokenny12345
@kommandokenny12345 2 жыл бұрын
I got these a few weeks ago. Now I just gotta keep ‘em consistent. Such a steez trick. I love it
@At_rgb
@At_rgb Жыл бұрын
12 years old and this looks better than any bigfoot footage
@delaz4ck543
@delaz4ck543 5 жыл бұрын
0:00 vertical pop shove it 0:28 hardflip 0:49 hardflip 0:59 hardflip 1:12 frontside pressure flip 1:28 hardflip 1:54 hardflip 2:14 frontside pressure flip 2:25 hardflip
@justincase9284
@justincase9284 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but which one was the cleanest..
@ROGUESPIRIT_
@ROGUESPIRIT_ 5 жыл бұрын
2.25 is a varial kickflip.
@5-iwnl-596
@5-iwnl-596 5 жыл бұрын
De La Rochefort 0:00 was hard
@thrashedd
@thrashedd 5 жыл бұрын
0:00 was a hardflip. Flick was just a lil bit late.
@sethreign8103
@sethreign8103 5 жыл бұрын
@@ROGUESPIRIT_ varial kickflips spin the other way so the nose goes away from you though.
@4everShredd
@4everShredd 11 жыл бұрын
must agree ! impossibles are awsome to watch too !!
@cxssetteman182
@cxssetteman182 3 жыл бұрын
Hardflips are so Underappreciated fr ❤️
@andrewsmith3570
@andrewsmith3570 9 жыл бұрын
Does a hard flip look like a big ass fs pop shuvit to anyone else? Or is it just me
@andrewsmith3570
@andrewsmith3570 9 жыл бұрын
***** really? I had no idea...
@andrewsmith3570
@andrewsmith3570 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@andrewsmith3570
@andrewsmith3570 9 жыл бұрын
Lol me to bro
@andrewsmith3570
@andrewsmith3570 9 жыл бұрын
Okay is ur profile pic u in a helmet thing if so I'm buttermilkbiscuits that just followed
@therockiesfan3
@therockiesfan3 7 жыл бұрын
andrew smith mine look like bs shuvs. Theyre a little too vertical lol
@debbiemacpherson2483
@debbiemacpherson2483 11 жыл бұрын
boys are doin HUGE hardflips
@chrism-kx3tt
@chrism-kx3tt 13 жыл бұрын
the quality of these videos is just insane
@japenesenugget2141
@japenesenugget2141 6 жыл бұрын
All hardflips, they are just in slo mo. Different styles too🔥
@PerfectCell9
@PerfectCell9 4 жыл бұрын
Best looking skate trick tied with a frontside flip too imo
@HarlemFingerboards
@HarlemFingerboards 11 жыл бұрын
The only reason I watched this vid is to try to learn hard flips and I see how they completely curved there front foot and just let it slide off. Thanks this helped a lot.
@NegiTom
@NegiTom 13 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are so awesome for learning these tricks, being able to see see them that slowly and in that detail is better than any words, thanks dude.
@17ballislife
@17ballislife 4 жыл бұрын
Hardflips are so beautiful
@jamesbullie7096
@jamesbullie7096 10 жыл бұрын
1:56 was the nicest one
@leirbagguitbox6477
@leirbagguitbox6477 Жыл бұрын
One those tricks I couldn’t get when I was wee lad lol but my school mate and friend always knew how to do it . RIP Jonathan Duncan
@joshuafabillar4289
@joshuafabillar4289 4 жыл бұрын
2:15 is a pressure hardflip
@JPJPJP98
@JPJPJP98 5 жыл бұрын
When i was a kid it took like 2 years to i understand how the hardflip spins
@edoardobertelli8874
@edoardobertelli8874 Жыл бұрын
the best flip trick ever
@valkane3596
@valkane3596 Жыл бұрын
Dude with red laces just sends it and it hardflips literally
@learningtoskatewhenyoure3065
@learningtoskatewhenyoure3065 Жыл бұрын
This was super satisfying to watch.
@TheUrbanSkateboarder
@TheUrbanSkateboarder 13 жыл бұрын
Favorite trick right here.
@PheZepe
@PheZepe 11 жыл бұрын
Hard flip looks so easy, yet really hard to even get it to flip
@billionairio
@billionairio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, just one skater didn't make sense, but putting it together from the different styles helps things click.
@delaz4ck543
@delaz4ck543 5 жыл бұрын
hardflip and f/s-pressure-flip has the same board rotation, So do inward heelflip and pressure flip. The difference is if the flip is caused by the front foot or back foot.
@Jroderton
@Jroderton 5 жыл бұрын
Best looking trick.
@justincase9284
@justincase9284 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. By far.
@thebananasquad7124
@thebananasquad7124 8 жыл бұрын
My pop shove its look like some of those hardflips. I noticed by filming myself that I actually kinda flick the board on my shuvs with my front foot and that the main difference between my pop shuvs and these hardlips is that the board doesn't spin between my legs but in front of me
@cae_lb
@cae_lb 4 жыл бұрын
I actually think this is a different trick, but I can’t remember the name right now. Where it does the same motion but doesn’t go between your legs
@mgmskateco5679
@mgmskateco5679 4 жыл бұрын
And people ask me why I like hard flips more than tres
@indonesiaball8277
@indonesiaball8277 4 жыл бұрын
I like it because i can hardflip but cant tre
@DamCrooksta
@DamCrooksta 10 жыл бұрын
Better than a trick tip
@Anatime714
@Anatime714 3 жыл бұрын
All time favorite trick.
@REEL.FASTLT
@REEL.FASTLT 12 жыл бұрын
The music is making me tierd.
@alexbr58
@alexbr58 12 жыл бұрын
How can people dislike this video, I guess they don't know how to hardflip
@sirianfelixbrightonesquire3247
@sirianfelixbrightonesquire3247 4 жыл бұрын
I did my first perfect hardflip today by accident. It felt soooo natural
@christianthompson8584
@christianthompson8584 4 жыл бұрын
The rotation is done all with the back foot, hold pressure with the front foot and release after the pop. (1:12)
@ashomsky
@ashomsky 13 жыл бұрын
@troysfreakinawesome I found these guys on Myspace and asked them if I could use their music in my videos.
@R2Magnum
@R2Magnum 13 жыл бұрын
these slow clips remind me so much of TH Project 8. because it all looks so smooth an slow just like when you control the fliptricks in the game great videos!
@NeCtRiCkS
@NeCtRiCkS 12 жыл бұрын
Dude, this Dylan Phipps is sick!
@CodexGame
@CodexGame 10 жыл бұрын
2:13 that was totally a frontside pressure flip, he didnt use his front foot!
@alexsailer9967
@alexsailer9967 7 жыл бұрын
yeah he did use it. so perfectly it looked effortless. In order to cause a pressure flip like that he would have appeared to do a heel flip flick
@billyloaf4753
@billyloaf4753 6 жыл бұрын
alex sailer wtf u talking lol
@alexsailer9967
@alexsailer9967 6 жыл бұрын
For a pressure hardflip it appears as if the person kicks for a heel flip and it flips kick flip.. he kicked kick flip and it flipped that way. He also clearly popped a front shuv instead of the pressure technique of pinching the board and the wheel.
@billyloaf4753
@billyloaf4753 6 жыл бұрын
alex sailer dude im trying to understand you but your english is not making that happen lol
@alexsailer9967
@alexsailer9967 6 жыл бұрын
I'm trying my best. a hardflip is a front shuv and a kick flip combined..Just like he did in this video. a pressure hardflip will flip the same way, but the most noticeable difference of the person doing it would be a heel flip motion of the front leg instead of the kick flip motion. He's clearly kicking kickflip in combination with a front shuv to make it a hardflip. If it was pressure then he would've extended the front leg in the heel flip motion.
@makemworse123
@makemworse123 9 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling I may land this trick cause of this video
@monkeybounceereborn4909
@monkeybounceereborn4909 4 жыл бұрын
Did you do it?
@kolbyoketch5662
@kolbyoketch5662 12 жыл бұрын
no, its just a perfectly executed hardflip. the board is suppose to be vertical when you do it , that's what makes it go between the legs.
@robbroadhead3495
@robbroadhead3495 4 жыл бұрын
Some of these skaters have incredible vert! Hops!
@skate4ever610
@skate4ever610 12 жыл бұрын
hardflip is such a fun trick!
@Dreselias
@Dreselias Жыл бұрын
The 2d most beautiful trick 😯😯
@seanskates6319
@seanskates6319 11 жыл бұрын
TnTnx @ashomsky for this!I finally know now how to catch and land it!
@ventuskeywielder
@ventuskeywielder 13 жыл бұрын
i really like yalls vids! they are better than tricktips and your angles and HD are sick! i subbed :D
@kchal0
@kchal0 10 жыл бұрын
My favorite trick to do :) always gets a letter in SKATE. Both regular and fakie
@zombieman395
@zombieman395 12 жыл бұрын
i lernt these yesterday so clean
@EllWood847
@EllWood847 11 жыл бұрын
oh snap look at those es accel thats a bangin ass shoe right there
@adamheeley285
@adamheeley285 9 жыл бұрын
Some of these are pressure flips, at 1:12 the guy does not use his front foot to flip the board, his back foot is doing all the work....that is a pressure flip.
@goldenpepitas4603
@goldenpepitas4603 5 жыл бұрын
Real title: Reason why hard flip is the sexiest trick in s8boarding
@andrewmanzano461
@andrewmanzano461 8 жыл бұрын
My trick tip: Do a varial flip but pop/scoop the tail under more to give it a vertical half flip and you'll land a hardflip.
@teilzeitteemo6190
@teilzeitteemo6190 8 жыл бұрын
that's still a varial flip then.
@joih7
@joih7 13 жыл бұрын
This trick is such a mindfuck
@Jorgeskatercastillo
@Jorgeskatercastillo 11 жыл бұрын
naw it means that it takes 1000 pictures in 1 second thats why the slo mos look so smooth and nice
@chrism-kx3tt
@chrism-kx3tt 12 жыл бұрын
you know its a sweet hardflip when you catch it with your front foot like in 1:22
@bobsmith-ov3kn
@bobsmith-ov3kn 3 жыл бұрын
I like how it starts with a front shuv and not an actual hardflip
@edoardobertelli8874
@edoardobertelli8874 Жыл бұрын
this video is sooo good
@riveratrackrunner
@riveratrackrunner 4 жыл бұрын
To learn switch flip i recorded myself and saw what i was doing wrong to get the flick better.its like football players watching old videos of plays to see what works and doesnt. So i recommend recording to see what the issue is.
@nexismfb
@nexismfb 13 жыл бұрын
Tony hawk proving ground "create a trick" mode all over again.
@mike_r91
@mike_r91 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much for this. I still had to put the vid in 0.25x speed to fully comprehend what is going on xD
@THEMIGHTYMANGANFTW
@THEMIGHTYMANGANFTW 13 жыл бұрын
at first when i saw it it looked a really low pop but then i saw the rest and hot damn thats a high pop
@mangomane420
@mangomane420 8 жыл бұрын
So many pressure flips man
@allinornothin
@allinornothin 8 жыл бұрын
no
@mangomane420
@mangomane420 8 жыл бұрын
ND S Dont debate me on this
@mehdimoussaoui1712
@mehdimoussaoui1712 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@javonsilas1342
@javonsilas1342 8 жыл бұрын
+Geo Cucuta no he decided to pop them flick late to assure a cleaner land. I'm just going off of physics sorry
@JrizzleSkate
@JrizzleSkate Жыл бұрын
I always thought the hardflip was when the board did a 360 vetically, and didn't "barrel roll" as well (for lack of a better term) like shown here?
@ashomsky
@ashomsky 13 жыл бұрын
@sk8erboy088 Dylan Phipps. He was going pretty fast when he did that hardflip.
@spooky_zen
@spooky_zen 9 жыл бұрын
dude was launching into space
@DjBaapreB
@DjBaapreB 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@MateoBlumer
@MateoBlumer Жыл бұрын
1:12 one of the best I’ve seen
@JoshSteimle
@JoshSteimle 2 жыл бұрын
When I see him loft that thing two full feet up that's when I think, "Well, no wonder these are hard for me, I can't even get six inches off the ground."
@DAVORmusic
@DAVORmusic 13 жыл бұрын
Your videos amuse me so much..it makes me more into skating.thank you for that.
@StrayMedicine
@StrayMedicine Жыл бұрын
Forgot about Dunian!!! Glad I was curious about hardflips lol
@steven458791
@steven458791 13 жыл бұрын
0:49, rocking the e'S accels. Those shoes go all the way back to the companies beginnings in 95.
@notasian7620
@notasian7620 8 жыл бұрын
still cant figure it out it doesnt seem like they do anything and it flips end over end i can never get it to do that
@alphabetApperatus
@alphabetApperatus 8 жыл бұрын
it's more like letting ur front foot barely slide off instead of flicking it like a kick-flip. it'll want to flip upside down & sliding ur foot off makes it turn. I know it seems obvious but sometimes it's just helpful to hear how someone else does them. that's how I've always done them...after almost losing a ball or 2
@jamesbaker1392
@jamesbaker1392 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry I know this is late. When I was trying to figure them out as well, my friend told me "it's all in the back foot" because he noticed I was more focused on the flick rather than the pop. Like kail said, don't really focus on flicking it like a kickflip. Try and focus on popping it. It's hard to explain but you'll get what we mean if you try it enough
@cobyearley5781
@cobyearley5781 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, pop straight down and bring ur front foot behind and close to u, and u should get the right motion, good luck, hope u land it, keep skating
@tylerjohn4676
@tylerjohn4676 11 жыл бұрын
Nollie hardflip is my favorite trick now
@Ben_Gates
@Ben_Gates 12 жыл бұрын
favorite trick, feels so good when i do them
@gavinroberts2581
@gavinroberts2581 7 жыл бұрын
I can't tell the difference between this and a varial flip even though they are completely different.
@hopslvr314
@hopslvr314 4 жыл бұрын
That board flex though!😅
@XXedmi
@XXedmi 12 жыл бұрын
this is the best hardflip tutorial in youtube:DD
@thepancakemann
@thepancakemann 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a fucking greezy trick. Growing up in the late 90's/early 2000's I had no idea what this trick looked like outside of stills from magazines. Getting back into the trick side of skating has been very rewarding after years of longboarding and cruising. Considering I just relearned varial kickflips, hardflips shouldn't be too hard, right?
@thatoneguychad420
@thatoneguychad420 4 ай бұрын
My fave flip
@dubmartian3972
@dubmartian3972 10 жыл бұрын
T Puds would be jealous of the pop these guys have
@LightofRenewal
@LightofRenewal 12 жыл бұрын
it took me 3 days to hardflip, if you learn to get the rotation, you will land it in a day, its not like a tre when it takes you a while to land after you get to rotation. Its really all in the front foot, that what gives it, its flick.
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