Asics Magic Speed 4 | Full Review

[@ShokiNatsume]

I ran a marathon on a MAGIC SPEED 3. I would have loved it more with a higher stack height… But now with the version 4, I’m totally hyped.!!!

[@Diddle1414]

The fact that you guys are doing a magic speed 4 has me excited that you're about to drop a Superblast 2.

[@jmbaug1229]

Superblast 2 😮 ❤❤❤

[@PMVelarde]

Are they doing SB2? I hope they dont mess it up, SB is a great daily trainer.

[@Diddle1414]

@@PMVelarde The Asics rep I talked to in May said to expect them in about 2 months.

[@PMVelarde]

@@Diddle1414 i curious start looking stuff up, looks like they’re releasing is next month along with Olympics Paris colorway. I just hope they wont mess it up.

[@Diddle1414]

@@PMVelarde I can't imagine they'll make any big change to the foam. My guess is something with the upper.

[@svenja5596]

Summary: Kind of an inbetween shoe for someone who doesn't wanna drop 250 on a true race day shoe but is carbon curious. I did love the Magic Speed 3 and prefer higher stack shoes so this seems like a good shoe for me so I'll probably get it. If you don't get your shoes for free and aren't super fast 250 is a lot just for race days imo. Do it all shoes for the win 🎉😄

[@jutsni1030]

For us middle/end of the pack marathoners, this Speed4 is a bargain, decent race shoe🤗🤣

[@torenforsberg1]

Asics has made it hard on themselves by creating the ultimate Supertrainer in the Superblast. It really makes this updated version of the Magic Speed with a higher stack redundant. If they want to keep the Magic Speed around, it seems like they need to make it more like the Takumi Sen. A super light weight, stripped down, 5K - 10K racer that is super snappy and fast. Maybe that is Asics' intention with this update, but it doesn't seem like it meets that standard based on your review.

[@kalvin.]

Completely agree. There was a clear opening to me in their lineup to make the Magic Speed the lower to the ground, pseudo-5k/10k racer or training companion to their Metaspeeds and so I was surprised to see it go up in stack and weight. Perhaps they revive the Hyperspeed line to do that, and this still seems like a great shoe for marathoners doing longer runs or workouts, but the Superblast having a rollercoaster response being so popular after an initial negative pushback maybe had ASICS scrambling to suit what they thought we wanted resulting in these.

[@vick666ful]

Agreed, I loved the 3 cause it gave me that feel not excited about the 4. Have to go stock up on the 3 now

[@JackD87]

That would be great. Time to retire the Magic Speed and launch the lower stack racer based around the Sky Paris

[@MTZ0]

@@vick666fulwas the 3 a good race day shoe? I liked my previous ASICS racing shoes and want some for the cross country season. Would you recommend for 3 mile - 5k?

[@torenforsberg1]

@@kalvin. I absolutely get what you're saying in regards to the Takumi Sen and Magic Speed 3's stack height and weight being a selling feature. It was initially a big turn off for me when I first looked at the Magic Speed 4. However, if the Hoka CieloX1 has taught me anything, it's that weight and stack height can absolutely be negated by the right midsole foam (bounce), geometry (rocker), and plate configuration. I do not feel the added weight of the Cielo X1 because those other three components are so tuned that they completely negate the increase in weight, in my experience. The Magic Speed 4 is in that same category. If the idea is that a 5k to 10K racer has to be as light, if not lighter, and the same stack height or lower stack height than previous 5k to 10K racers, then I'm not sure how much innovation is left in the marketplace. I think what this year has taught me with the release of the CieloX1 and Magic Speed 4 is that brands are looking at ways to utilize other tools in shoe design to maintain, if not increase the speed of their shoes. This is certainly just my opinion, but I have experience racing in the Takumi Sen 9 and Magic Speed 3. They are both phenomenal shoes! However, the midsole response and toe off of the Magic Speed 4 is really a unique experience. I haven't raced in them yet but will at the end of August. My initial impression after about 30 training miles is that they are every bit as fast as the lower stacked and lighter 5k to 10K racers. However, they're actually comfortable to wear protect my legs much better than other mid distance racers :-)

[@ryandonina9563]

Love this review! I’m a huge advocate for the Novablasts and use it for pretty much all my daily/long miles. I think it’s too early in my training to buy the Paris so I think this would fit perfect for those marathon effort runs until then!

[@dinkthinks3958]

Just ran in my Boston 12s today. Every time I lace them up I don’t like them and by the end of the run they change my mind. 🤔

[@pepessz32]

bro, I thought I'm the only one. LOL.

[@andrewjknox]

My favourite shoe of all time 🏆

[@toi3213]

Yup fkn hate the upper.😂

[@Blanderr]

I'm really glad I'm not the only one. I hate the lace up but the ride is pretty nice and very neutral

[@MrRadhiEmhail]

i had to drop half size down for Boston 12 felt lot better , the upper and the laces annoyed hell out of me in my size

[@jweihe]

Seems they should have left it alone. My Magic Speed 3s arrive Thursday. Can't wait! Thanks for your great insights.

[@davidrogers7787]

I was recently in Tokyo and bought a pair of "S4"s - they're awesome - basically an upgrade on the Magic Speed 4s but alas only available in Japan. Although marketed as a sub-4hr marathon shoe, they're very good for speed work due to the FF Turbo foam, carbon plate and notable large forefoot strike zone. Super light too at only 250g in a US 11.5. Quirky but effective, they fit perfectly into my Novablast > Superblast > Metaspeed Sky Paris rotation.

[@alredalred]

I got a pair of S4s in Tokyo as well. I love them. When these wear through, I am definitely importing another pair!

[@glyndonwakeman7420]

I was wondering how different the MS4s are to the S4s. I was kind of hoping the MS4 was the non-Japan S4. But it sounds like they're quite different?

[@davidrogers7787]

@@glyndonwakeman7420 I tried both on. I wouldn't say they are THAT different. Both have the FFTurbo for example, but for me I needed a pair of shoes solely for that speed work by offering minimal real estate + lightness + that optimum/enlarged forefoot stability. When I compare the sole profile of the S4s to my MSPs, you can really see the difference. I'm running a marathon in the latter in 4 weeks, and I'll definitely need that more proportioned forefoot + heel profile. I felt that the Magic Speed 4 did neither, idk.

[@alredalred]

@@glyndonwakeman7420 Everything I have heard is the MS4 is the S4 for international markets but I haven't tried them yet.

[@chellebunderla2045]

@@alredalredwhere do you import from? Keen to try! Im still on vaporfly 2s .. but tossing up a metaspeed edge paris or maybe the alphafly 3.

[@icio1511]

Nobody talks about how sick they look, those colours are amazing.

[@Kaisersozze]

I do like my Boston 12 and I also have the Superblast. This shoe looks great.

[@glyndonwakeman7420]

I alternate these 2 for my long runs. Can't decide which one I like more.

[@fcojkd]

I think this model will be a great option for overpronators like me, because is wider as well at the top and at the midfoot, I can´t use Magic speed Paris Sky/Edge due the narrow they are.

[@ebert4848]

I really appreciate when you guys add the on-screen corrections if you misspoke in a video. It shows your commitment to getting it right.

[@MRX5000X]

Should have been named the MagicBlast 💥

[@teamdreamcatcher1339]

Is this shoe similar to the S4 shoe that they released in Japan only? It ticks all the boxes for me as an excellent long run shoe that can do tempo work. I think Thomas explained the possible use case for the shoe very well. A budget carbon plated race day option for the slower runners amongst us. It's reasonably priced, it's light for the stack height, incorporates their now 2nd tier super foam. A beefier Boston 12. I'll be picking it up for sure.

[@davidosolo]

10:03 Between ´speed´ and ´daily training´ we have the tempo run. There is where the Magic Speed comes in.

[@benlaxton2407]

For a person doing ALL their runs in the Cumulus, would this be a good entry level Carbon/Race/Tempo shoe to start a rotation with? Or should they “graduate” to something like the Novablast fist?

[@Believeintherun]

These would be fun mixed with the cumulus

[@adambaus2427]

I'm confused, you gave this a soft green and at the end you say that for most cases you'd pick this shoe over the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4, yet in the review for the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 you gave it a solid green, said it would be hard to beat and loved it.

[@johnsonch7292]

Saucony paid sponsor more. Simple.

[@tonybrinkman7765]

i believe thomas said soft green. robbie gave it a green and said hed take it over the speed 4

[@christopherlee4638]

First ! Love the Believe in the Run crew! Keep up the great work!

[@xiatian6037]

This new treatment of the Onitsuka Tiger Stripes looks pretty cool.

[@theinconsequentialrunner]

Three tenths of an inch? Are you allowed to mix metric thinking with imperial measurements?

[@Believeintherun]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[@POTThaesslich]

Is that a bit more like the Salomon S/Lab Spectur? It feels like we’re seeing a few more carbon plates but with more cushion for a more “normal” runner

[@haon2205]

I predict the average heavier joe would likely prefer this over the more pricey sb with no plate

[@markspinozzi2882]

2024 is a nice year for running shoes!! New Balance is coming out with the SC trainer V3! You know ASICS can keep up with a carbon plate trainer with the new magic speed. Plus, Hoka is releasing the Mach X 2!! It's a stacked year!!!

[@Deathcultify]

A good upgrade from a Deviate Nitro 2 or are they way too different? I've used my DN2 for slow paces as well aside from faster workouts.. Would this work and be a good replacement? Can get another DN2 on sales but I would like to try this.

[@jdog804]

hmm would you suggest for a first time carbon plate asics shoe, the magic speed 4 or superblast?

[@BearSharkHybrid]

Superblast doesn’t have a plate

[@Sabundy]

That yellow Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66s Tshirt is so cool. Where did you get it?

[@B.Wise.B.Running]

Robbe likes this more than the speed 4?!?… I didn’t see that coming 😮 I like the Speed 4 a lot and then Boston 12 so I guess I’d like this one too

[@kalemregier]

Ya know, I am carbon curious. Looking for something to run a half marathon in. Goal time of 1:40 ish. Thoughts?

[@thedolenorway]

I am definitely carbon curious!

[@287fe]

How many pairs of shoes are on that wall?

[@TheZlantan1926]

How many pairs of alphaflys 1 do you have at the background?

[@mooncat0025]

I miss the shoe wall in the background

[@MrN0115]

I think Thomas still love the version 3 over this

[@嘿嘿嘿-z1v]

It will be available in my ocuntry, can't wait. BTW, I missed you guy throw the shoes like playing the football ^^

[@kuriosites]

As someone who didn't get along with the geometry of the Superblast, this shoe looks pretty good. I'm still going to try the Neo Vista first though.

[@mazanek198585]

Endorphin pro 4, New Balance SC Elite 4 or Magicspeed 4?

[@andrewjknox]

You had me at Boston 12 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 Will be buying this shoe 🫡

[@Silverwood085]

Isn't it made to compete with the Saucony Endorphin Speed?

[@TheValonquar]

Asics are doing amazing this year but I have a feeling Puma is gonna rock our socks. I bought the DNE3 early yesterday and its 10/10.

[@jutsni1030]

Looking forward to the DN3🔥

[@MedicineRunner]

All the brands (except maybe PUMA) are just cranking out max stack plated shoes now for the hell of it, it’s not even fun anymore lol. They are all so similar- a dual density with a plate and flashy colorway. Just trying to get as many shots at a purchase as possible I guess. RIP shoe boom of the 20s 😔

[@snowwalker9999]

I saw photos of Deviate Nitro 3 and the Elite 3. Both seem to have more stack than the previous versions.

[@rgweaver]

Bummer. The MagicSpeed 3 was one of my favorite shoes in recent memory because it became my go-to for speed work: it's just about as nimble as the Takumi Sen, but much more comfortable and stable. The MagicSpeed 4 may be more versatile than the 3, but versatility is way overrated for anyone serious enough to have 3-4+ shoes in rotation.

[@nicholaschavez6245]

This is exactly the vibe I get. May have to stock up on Magic 3s while I can.

[@RunBeyondLimits]

The pendulum of more stack is in full swing here, waiting for it to come back towards the middle or ground contact.

[@jonathanhill2302]

Well, I’m going to give these a shot. Seems like they may work better for me than the 3’s did (which I thought were fine).

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

Would the MS4 be the training partner for the Sky Paris? Edge Paris? Both? Neither?

[@Believeintherun]

Both

[@MyFatAdaptedLife]

@@Believeintherun 👍

[@GuwapoAP]

Do you believe it's a western version of their S4 ?

[@faizulzuraimi5393]

How does it compare with the asics S4?

[@davidlundy9142]

You guys are trying so hard to make this shoe enticing and please asics but your faces and “excitement” level tells me all I need to know. Hard pass.

[@macoyupadoodle]

Wish it wasn't pucks but a full top layer of FF turbo ( the new adidas sl has a full slab within the carrier).

[@LukaMagic-hg3dk]

Does it support foot with high arch?

[@KeithEstep]

Do the ms 4 and the Kinvara Pro feel the same?

[@its1027]

From another review website, they say the Kinvara Pro is mushier, less dynamic, and better for slower paces. They much preferred the MS4.

[@TheHutchRuns]

Doesn't have enough of a use case for me, have the Superblast and Metaspeed Sky Paris and would actually choose the original Metaspeed Sky forfast training sessions

[@cripistipiapan1]

what is the size? I am 9, for example the cumulus, could I buy the same size?

[@Believeintherun]

Yes

[@jollyroger1009]

Sounds like Asics version of the Endorphin Speed or the NB SC Trainer.

[@gg_uri673]

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope they revert back to the MS3 format of a more speed/tempo shoe but with FF Turbo+ for the MS5 in the future. I'll probably still be getting these shoes but the MS3 was so good for what its purpose was.

[@jollyroger1009]

@@gg_uri673 It was (and still is) pretty awesome.

[@ElMecosario]

Where can I get that black ASICS t shirt ?

[@Believeintherun]

Onisuka Tiger

[@ElMecosario]

@@Believeintherun link? Lol

[@brainkale]

Reminds me of the og ZoomFly 1, firm with a super pronounced rocker feeling

[@berthein5476]

I dont understand why the magic speed 4 is ment to replace tbe magic speed 3. I feel like those are two fundamentally different shoes. This should have been the s4 2 . I mean it literally is the s4 2

[@keagandevilliers2832]

LOL literally just bought the 3! Amazing shoe though! Keen to see if I like the 4 as much

[@mapleridge8]

Need a speed shoe, looking for deals on the three.

[@davidboles1193]

For some odd reason i love the novablast as a daily trainer for myself, i have the superblast as well and have ran in them and i cant stand them i dont know why just not for me

[@Mike-rh8we]

I feel more confused after seeing the review as to weather this is a good shoe. That was an all over the place review of ramblings and half thoughts. Not much help!!!

[@Believeintherun]

Might rain.

[@Mike-rh8we]

@@Believeintherun depends on the whether😃

[@turradi1126]

Nice Brooks logo on the midsole.

[@tobiaspeggs]

From your review, it sounds like they've made the Glide Ride again - which is great, because I loved that shoe as a daily trainer, and was gutted when they dropped it! (I moved to the New Balance SC Trainer at that point, and can't wait for the new version).

[@Crimsonvandal]

I agree! It broke my heart that the glideride was discontinued

[@Believeintherun]

Didn’t even think of that. That’s an interesting take

[@cmbthebrand]

It’s the perfect 5K race day shoe for heavier/slower runners who can’t maximize the speed of Asics race day shoes.

[@Manuel-901]

Good morning. Like to Thomas and Robbe. Cheers.

[@davidpearson6011]

Are they a narrow shoe

[@JackD87]

Is that an Asics official T-shirt?? Looks 🔥🔥🔥

[@Believeintherun]

Onitsuka Tiger

[@runnerwatch2280]

You guys be chillin in Berlin for the 50th?

[@yuhchaichew9628]

Great comment👍👍and looking forward to it

[@erikvaage576]

I have used previous Magic speeds mostly for speed workouts, intervals and tempos at threshold pace or faster. Superblast has been my go to long run shoe and does well at marathon pace. I feel though I would use MS4 for mainly speed workouts and faster long runs. To me MS4 is either more affordable race option or workout companion to Metaspeeds.

[@erikvaage576]

I like to save my metaspeeds for race day so I do most of my speedier workouts in magic speed, long runs in Superblast and daily training in either Novablast or Gel-nimbus

[@Carlosediaz543]

Kinda disappointed they gave this the massive stack height & stiff shoe treatment.. not sure we need an other one of these in the shoe market I absolutely loved version 3, it was actually so nice just wish the upper had a slightly better lock down. The magic speed felt better then an endorphin speed 3/4 for me because it felt more like a racing flat then a daily trainer.

[@GratefulComonTheSense]

Where is superblast2?

[@Believeintherun]

Coming very soon

[@ionwittig2572]

If feels like Boston 12, then no, thanks. For me Boston 12 is the worst running shoe I ever ran in. It was so harsh on my legs. Just didn’t work for me.

[@marcusszavaleta]

How many miles did u put on it

[@FatUglySadMan]

Felt the same brutally harsh and firm just did not experience the it softens up thing, 90 miles in them hated every mile.

[@ionwittig2572]

@@marcusszavaleta I did use it for over a month. Over 100k I done in it. Besides being bad for my legs, developed one of them a hole above the toe box. Was a size bigger, made no sense. That was not really a problem but then started damaging all my socks. Then I decided to go back to my first generation of Magic Speed and bin the Boston 12. I could not buy new pair of socks for every run. Magic speed felt 10 times better. Midsole of Boston 12 felt like a hard brick. Magic speed first generation has a nice roll and stack height is lower. Because of that it feels better. Magic speed was missing insoles padding, which I added, being more comfortable now.

@@ionwittig2572looks like you talking about the Boston 11… my 12 is all but stiff but a bit larger as it should be

[@ihussain1011]

Awesome, a nice upgrade to the Novablast 4.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Aren’t the meta, super, nova all the same

[@edwinduisburg8138]

Shoe must be so bad that they can't even describe how they actually feeling about the shoe.

[@itsahardmuttlife9263]

Because it’s an ASICS shoe. Their primary sponsor. They don’t want to say the wrong thing. 😂

[@dominiclpacheco]

Is that David Spade?

[@manuelportillo5787]

Asics ruined their best high speed trainer (tempo, intervals) and even race shoe (5, 10k, even HM), added a lot of weight, made it bulkier and more expensive. Kind of the same thing that Brooks did to the Hyperion Max with the Hyperion Max 2.

[@manuelportillo5787]

Look at these guys trying to excuse the failure that the MS4 is, just because the are being paid. Sad. The MS3 was a great shoe for racing 5k, 10k, and even HM, or for tempo, high speed training.. All of that is gone.

[@wearehuskies8411]

Try Li-ning shadow 2 essential or Anta Mach 4 pro

[@Askte3888]

Travis Head here

[@sandyraphael3465]

Review ortus solar from indonesia🔥

[@rapssss]

You cannot race competitively with magic speed 4. Stack is too high. ASICS made them as a cheaper alternative to metaspeeds but it will never be near their performance.

[@yojimba06]

it seems they both look tired.

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

S4 is better than this. Motion wrap, wribbed laces, and slab of turbo.

[@Fozzee.1970]

Kind of irrelevant as it's not available in most of the world. However have you actually tried both?

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I have not tried magic speed 4 but i have s4, superblast, and all other magic speed. Looking at the specs of ms4, I dont think I will pick this up with what I have.

[@Fozzee.1970]

@@m.ch4rmaland3r10 fair enough but better is subjective and it depends on the use case.

[@hufemeve]

6th Element

[@일론무스기]

send me in Korea. I wanna review this one. haha

[@brianyee3096]

You guys seem like you had a fight about something before the video. Chemistry was off today and videography cutting off your heads was excessive and distracting. I love your work almost always but I had to stop this one halfway through.

[@JuarezRichard]

Superblast 2 is way too soft and tall I think is overrated

[@italiansurprise]

Are you guys completely blazed in every video?

[@johnsonch7292]

Robbie says the word cheap. Asics just cut off all shoes support and communication. Lol. Jk

[@someonelastname8175]

three tenths of an inch, wta fudge is wrong with americans using an outdated not fit for purpose imperial system. Just say 8mm and the whole world will know what you're referring to. You use grams for weight! 260g is far more insightful.

[@marlonperalta3286]

2nd!

[@hankschrader2353]

How high are you😄

[@Lasher177]

5th

[@chrisdunlap2520]

4th

[@percivalparedes7697]

This 2 sucks when they explained their verdict to the shoes everytime i saw this guys they can't directly said its bad shoe coz they need sponsorship 😂😅 u sucks guys

[@undeadly1103]

ugh. robbie 🙄

[@rxchino]

3rd HAHA

[@SpinFireOne]

ASICS headed downhill