Cliffe used the Sword and cut through all that man made logic and wisdom. Keep sharing the Truth brotha.
@godslove31538 жыл бұрын
The point that Cliff is trying to make to these students is that if you say, “I don’t need God” then you can’t claim that morality is objective due to its own definition. Definition of Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. For morality to be objective, that means there has to be a source outside of humanity that establishes it. So if morality is subjective (based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions) then no one is right or wrong. That is why he uses the example of the Nazi’s, South African Apartheid’s, Child Abusers, Murderers; if morality is subjective then who are you tell them they are wrong. The bottom line, most of these students are saying, “I decide what is right and wrong.” The problem is in reality, it doesn’t work that way.
@mackdmara5 жыл бұрын
You cannot lead someone in denial to a real conclusion. I am glad he heard it. Maybe it will sprout later in his life. Most people have no clue what they are living for, they just do. Many philosophers have lamented that. It takes real guts to ask those questions. We all die some day, hope they ask those before then. You gain ownership of your life, just to realize you hand it out daily to something or someone. That kid didn't have ownership yet, but he thought he did. You don't own yourself, no matter what you do. Deep truths are hard to find. God Bless Cliffe.
@sirmayse15453 жыл бұрын
The last guy was running from the question like a track meet athlete
@man4Christ12 жыл бұрын
Cliffe, Your ministry is a BIG blessing to me... THANK YOU!!!!!!!
@MoralDecay11 жыл бұрын
so glad I came across these videos! my life wouldn't of been complete without them...
@cavazosking Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can just see the pompous attitude all over these kids who are, in all honesty, speaking in ignorance which is ironic considering they're enrolled at an educational establishment. God bless you cliff 🙏
@mygiftmatters3 жыл бұрын
If 2+2 = 4 is objectively True, then God or something beyond the human mind to define that objective Truth has to exist.
@InfoArtistJK3 жыл бұрын
Cliffe continues to bring reasin and logic to those running from the responsibility that comes with following an objective moral authority, God.
@fellowservant3412 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the question of why, Atheism withers at it's Core. The boy was confident and devout in his Atheism but had no solid foundation upon where he stood. While Cliff gave ample reason for his faith, the Atheist stood in a huge slump. He had no real answers at all and relied upon a self imposed "impass" as an escape mechanism for his stupor.
@kingkingking85833 жыл бұрын
Everyone have knowledge about God man is the blame of all this confusion.
@elviogross67878 жыл бұрын
@ 19:17 - is he actually suggesting that God made him an atheist !?! & Cliff let'm get away with it ! I realize as I watch this, how much as a younger man I resisted being boxed in by titles... But the older I get & the more knowledgeable & informed I got about what these positions espouse, I realize how appropriate they are... Like Narcissistic, Materialist, Atheist, Agnostic, etc... Hopefully this young man grows to realize his need for Christ! Titus 2:13
@3in1god4 жыл бұрын
Once a friend and I were witnessing to an old German guy in the shopping centre. He told us he was happy and he doesn’t need religion. My friend asked him what was he living for to make him happy and could he give us some tips? All he could tell us was “selfishness” at least he was honest. Haha
@unionjackjohn3 жыл бұрын
Cliffe, God has given you such a wonderful gift of knowledge and courage to share your knowledge. I'm so thankful to God for you Brother. May Jesus bless you and your family.
@Murri1612 жыл бұрын
i dont know why the guy in the red and white striped shirt could not follow cliffe. cliffe was answering him, he was gonna give the kid a bigger perspective on things. making him think in a different way. I understood it perfectly
@nickrasmussen73458 жыл бұрын
Could have ended the argument really quick, all Cliffe had to ask, “What evidence leads you to believe that complex, finely tuned cosmic and biological structures appeared without being designed, by chance?”
@dperkins01 Жыл бұрын
You are just asserting things as facts.
@JohnjOcampo Жыл бұрын
@@dperkins01it is more rational to think those things, life doesn't come from non-life but if it did then that's a miracle but without a God how can miracles exist?
@MoralDecay11 жыл бұрын
ruthless truth!
@1godonlyone11910 жыл бұрын
Without God, there could be no objective right and wrong, and yet there are.
@jordandyal41293 жыл бұрын
Give me one Objective right or wrong.. and what makes it objective
@jrc99us4 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY the problem ALL atheists I have debated for the last 8 years, they can negate being a follower of Christ but they cannot posit atheism.
@ddhardial3 жыл бұрын
Cliff= Michael Jordan 1996/97. Unstoppable.
@higherworld97437 жыл бұрын
That young man knew exactly what Cliff was talking about but he was trying hard to be intellectually but end up being a dishonest young man.
@a45williams3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@unatimote877210 жыл бұрын
Well perhaps if the opisit argument isn't always the same than maybe cliff wouldn't have to keep repeating himself.
@rkish196912 жыл бұрын
I believe God chose us and its up to us to receive his love or deny it .
@juaneato3 жыл бұрын
Chose us?
@rkish19693 жыл бұрын
@@juaneato If you prefer created us for this purpose
@autry3311 жыл бұрын
Even if you dont agree with the man, he does have a point. I don't think he is "old news" at all. We should ask questions about life, not shut someone out just because we dont like what they are saying. Disagree, fine. Only be open to what he has to say. Will it kill you?
@horrormaniac14332 жыл бұрын
what a lovely day. I really appreciate the kid thinking that hard on the subject. Very well asked and very well answered, as usual.
@DenzelBanks2 жыл бұрын
Me going to the past to defend my faith 💪🏾💪🏾
@scottwood49335 ай бұрын
This guy will be the next Speaker of the House. Geezus!!
@taramckinley7585 Жыл бұрын
I have never been able to understand why so many people who argue against a belief in God are SO angry. When they argue in that way, they often come across as insulting, rude, arrogant, and smug- whether they realize it or not, and they do it from the very start of a conversation. It makes me wonder if they just do it because they think it's funny. I truly dont understand it.
@GraftedOliveBranch4 жыл бұрын
I hate the smug, self righteous attitude of some of these students, like the guy in the intro.
@unionjackjohn3 жыл бұрын
We must pray for them. In Jesus name I pray he blesses you. Amen
@lovegod56053 жыл бұрын
@@unionjackjohn exactly amen brother
@Dimitrisarus12 жыл бұрын
At 1:57, classic straw man argument played by the student. Classic.
@rkish196912 жыл бұрын
But to answer the answer the question , yes we chose as Cliffe says very often God allows us free will his greatest gift to his children
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt5 жыл бұрын
15:51 guy in top left is all of us listening to this insane kid
@taysolodo Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 I just saw it I know I’m late but he was sick of it
@BlazingLove3167 жыл бұрын
Naive student. He agreed that he is being intellectually dishonest.
@frankrubio96219 жыл бұрын
they couldn't know anything if they didn't know God first..they know
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt5 жыл бұрын
These kids are sooo void of knowledge it's sad and frustrating
@JasonAndOwen12 жыл бұрын
them mathmaticians think math proves everything
@rkish196912 жыл бұрын
You did make the choice , sorry kid you made it . You reject God's love ,and you can never explain it away
@SINQUEFIELD832 жыл бұрын
If I am making the highways and streets a better place and I know the best speed limit on the interstate should be 90mph. Now if another person is also trying to make the streets a more peaceful place thinks it should be 35mph and another 60mph. Although rules on the road differ from Gods law, it still shows that having one law to follow is more beneficial than each person following their own rule.
@vxenon677 жыл бұрын
The objective here is to win people to Jesus Christ. Some will believe some will not believe. In Jesus time some don't believe even though they witness miracles in front of their eyes because their hearts are wicked.
@alexandriasmitty38153 жыл бұрын
I am so glad Cliff is a Christian because it would be scary arguing with him if he was an Athiest LOL
@kingkingking85833 жыл бұрын
You right you would have to bring your A game to debate Cliffe.
@autry3311 жыл бұрын
Once again, I submit that you DO need intelligence at "some point" in time to "begin" any process. And that's what evolution is, a process. If we are to believe caused the big bang, thus putting the cycle of evolution in motion, we have a problem. What is the "cause"? We have to keep going back, and back, and back until we find something. Because you cant convince me "nothingness" caused "something".
@roccocalzone5480 Жыл бұрын
Saint cliffe
@theremovalist112 жыл бұрын
u cnt beat cliffe
@dperkins012 жыл бұрын
Ot doesn't have to be either or he is living his life his own way. You just force faith on him and then argue his faith is wrong, this is silly. I think Cliffe has a bad understanding. Why can't I choose the friend I want for whatever reason I want
@JohnjOcampo Жыл бұрын
Huh? He didn't push anything onto the kid, he challange his belief and an atheist answer always makes zero sense and are always intellectually dishonest with what they are saying.
@p.j.simpkins832422 күн бұрын
Looking like the anticliffe
@IBenZik8 ай бұрын
This guy is looking for answers to his questions that match the answer that would match his.
@godislove3635 жыл бұрын
The kid in the striped shirt is very confused he's conflicted with himself and his own thoughts he goes back and forth and then he tries to play God of being God over himself and others that he says no just about himself then you can't even answer that correctly he should definitely think about what he's saying before you say it we all make those mistakes but when you presenting a belief system before selling your debating you should know your own belief system and understanding.
@Siscast12 жыл бұрын
I don't think the striped kid understand that our faith in God and Jesus Christ is not just a general universal claim about the universe but it forms our identity as born again children of God and is the complete foundation of our worldview and everything we say and do in this life.
@funningincircles12 жыл бұрын
I have to give credit to the young atheist debaters in this video, they are working so hard to follow what cliffe says, but Cliffe keeps mangling his english in order to force the debate topic to fit his talking points. The words 'objective', 'subjective', 'faith', 'worship', 'existence'... etc... they just come out of his mouth and we are supposed to puzzle together what version of the word best fits his argument. The students actually did a good job pointing this out, so i dont know why i am
@russellkumar11778 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ talked about creation of the first male and female and also the most important old testament characters like Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Jonah, Elijah, David, Solomon and queen of Sheba. The world was formed through Jesus Christ. Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. No body can avoid moral values like 10 commandments. Sodom and Gomorrah is the proof that God gives judgement. see www.gotquestions.org
@josephthomasmusic8 жыл бұрын
@TrollingWithReason Your assumption is that belief in God is illogical by nature and therefore the two must be mutually exclusive. On what basis do you make that assumption?
@autry3311 жыл бұрын
That all makes sense friend, until you come to those tricky words like "selection" and "intelligence". The human eye is far more complicated than anything we, as humans, have ever invented. My question is; What are the chances evolution is behind this virtual impossibility? Your faith has to be 50 times stronger than any christian to believe evolution is the "creator" of such masterpiece. My answer is an intelligent mind created an intelligent eye. God.
@BobDobalena7 ай бұрын
First guy: You need evidence for God, but you don’t need evidence that you’re just chemical reactions that somehow is able to contemplate its existence and choose narcissism as a life path.
@autry3311 жыл бұрын
"basic instinct installed". That takes "information" does it not? You use the word "installed" as if nature itself has some sort of learning system or reasoning. As if nature improved upon some sort of trial and error. But if you believe in nothingness before all this came to be, how does this "nature" your so fond of gather information and then give us reasoning? It's a flawed argument. The only way we could have anything "installed" as you put it, is from info. Where does that come from?
@boltrooktwo3 жыл бұрын
The philosophy taught in our culture by scientists is the to give worship and awe to nature. They claim you should respect all those who know more about nature than you and to listen to their evaluations. Anthropologically is is simply polytheism and nature worship, choose what animal or natural force you like most and compare yourself to it. It isn’t rational, it’s faith, they elevate themselves by associating with observable processes in nature something akin to pagan shamans. They literally assert that they are important and intellectually elite because they have studied nature longer than others.
@Jzcmnbk12 жыл бұрын
Cliff lets see a fresh word.. You are quite literally using the same words!. Losing ur audience.
@jk.93002 жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely amazing that Cliff has so much less wisdom than these kids do
@mannster238 жыл бұрын
C'mon Cliffe, you are a nice guy. But that college student, to his credit, destroyed you. He came with the goods and you were a nothing-burger. Seriously! Matt Dillahunty owns you, btw!!!
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt5 жыл бұрын
Blind leading the blind you atheists are so void of knowledge it's scary
@unionjackjohn3 жыл бұрын
@RetroMan This is true. But we must pray to Jesus for everyone's salvation. May Jesus bless you
@dperkins01 Жыл бұрын
Cliffe sounds stupid, why would I need another option to god? Do I need options for zeus, Jupiter, odin, and thousands of other gods?