"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord." - 1 Corinthians 1:17-31 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." - Romans 3:19-26 "A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it. And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience." - Luke 8:5-15

It’s very fallible actually. Once you stop making excuses for the contradictions and immorality it’s very easy to see. Have you not questioned why one party explains rationally all the issues and problems in the bible and then why people like Cliffe and Cliffe Junior need to bend or exclude the parts that don’t make any logical sense?

​@Beezee1983 science contradicts itself constantly and is disproved by later science every few hundred years. The science we're taught now will likely be looked at as laughable and barbaric in 300 years. But you go on thinking humans know or understand anything in the universe.

What are you talking about?

I really hope you find some guidance and help from GOD and realize that you are so wrong about what you just said

@@arcticangel1628 he doesn’t actually say anything other than “thoughts are thoughts”…and he used a lot of word salad to fool y’all. God isn’t real, the individual is solely responsible for ALL of their actions.

@@allybug16 god isn’t real, the individual is solely responsible for all of their actions. Demons aren’t real, Satan is also fake. All religion stems from fear and manipulation. They are all fake. No god/gods exist, or have ever existed. It was/always has been…humans. Sorry they lied to you.

@@peepawsjorts I don’t think you understand what “God’s perspective is different from ours” means.

He knew it, but obviously Adam and Eve had the free will to not sin. Plus, everyone including you and me have sinned, so we are no better than them.

​@@brandonquan9127Amen

@brandonquan9127 slow down there cowboy. If he KNEW it was going happen, and IS outside of time, this implies pre-determined outcomes, does it not? Also, "free will" It's strange you say that when our brains are hard wired with chemicals and hormones that impact how we think and feel.

Adam and Eve started our problem of Sin and Death! But Jesus Christ fixed our problem with Sin & Death... NOW YOU REALLY HAVE NO EXCUSES ANYMORE! Have you or are you goin to accept Jesus Christ's FREE GIFT of Salvation and Everlasting Life with Him in Heaven? *Y or N?*

I’ve kinda had this question lol. I do know there is an answer, but I just don’t know it lol.