Asking Instagram 'Why do drivers HATE Cyclists?'

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@HCMORGI 10 ай бұрын

here in Germany it was illegal to ride next to each other unless your group consists of 25+ cyclists. they got rid of this law during covid, but car drivers dont care about that and constantly harass and threaten cyclists riding next to each other. the amount of times people in their cars tried to actively murder me on the road (and bike lanes, too) is insane. sold my roadbike and exclusively gravel in the woods now. think alot of drivers have anger issues in their metal murderboxes.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

That's so sad to hear. It's not fair, you should feel safe on the road but when there are people like that, it's not worth it. I think you're right, the little metal boxes make some drivers feel invincible...

@BellowFind 10 ай бұрын

When I used to wear a high vis and a helmet I used to get all sorts of abuse and close passes compared to when I didn't wear the combo. Now I just wear the helmet and just trust the lights are enough for drivers to pay attention to see that I am there. No more abuse and huge reduction in close passes.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Wow, that's so interesting 🤔 It's amazing how high-vis gained so many close encounters for you. Thanks for your comment - please share on your socials!

@MrSimezzes 10 ай бұрын

Can we stop calling them "close passes" and just call them assault.

@carysevans3051 10 ай бұрын

I always feel super stressed over taking a cyclist but good to think that it won’t save much time having to wait for a few extra seconds or minutes! Nice video 👏🏼

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@CrafterBox 10 ай бұрын

@NotJustBikes has some really cool videos related to how cities putting a simple lane in isn't normally enough. Worth checking out!

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'll have a look!

@normanmart7933 10 ай бұрын

I'm a cyclist but hate selfish cyclists who ride 2 and 3 abreast preventing safe overtakes on 50/60 mph roads where they show no consideration for other road users . Even tractors pull in occasionally.

@BikepackingAdventures 10 ай бұрын

Not a good shout at all. If there is no room to pass 2 people riding side by side it also means there is no room to pass one person riding by themselves in the majority of cases. A "safe overtake" is one which involves the vehicle crossing over into the opposite lane in some manner, if there's on-going traffic you do not go past and simply wait for the gap. Too many people either squeeze past or force on-coming traffic to adjust their road position.

@normanmart7933 9 ай бұрын

I think that says it all obviously that legitimises group rides that are happy with holding up traffic on fast roads putting all road users at risk . As an advanced driver and motorcyclist and touring cyclist I see cyclists often being the least considerate.

@MinaCheetahB 3 ай бұрын

I mostly ride my E scooter or E-bike on the sidewalk even though it is illegal because car drivers scare me and I also have slow processing speed. Actually my processing seed varies so sometimes I can react normally and sometimes it takes me longer to notice and take action I also go 10miles per hour or less on my scooter. Sometimes faster on downhill with my brakes on the whole time. I don’t know the speed on my bike. Some drivers give me no problem when I ride on the road. Others are a problem. When the cars pass me they drive too close. I was in my mom’s car one time and we saw a driver trying to get a cyclist to get off the road. They kept acting like they were going to hit them. The cyclist was pointing at the street saying it was also a bike lane. The road has a bike spray painted on it to tell Cars to share the road with bikes. I have been yelled at to get off the road several times and I was obeying the laws. I always stop at red lights. If I see a stop sign I will stop. I ride in the middle so cars can’t pass me, because that is scary to me. I have seen car drivers run red lights and speed up at yellow lights when yellow means slow down. I am in the United States. I am mostly more cautious than my mom is. Car drivers get mad when cities want to put in separated bike lanes, and they also get mad when cyclists are on the road. No one has told me not to ride on the sidewalk and I have been doing it for several years. But multiple people have told me to not ride on the roads the few times I do. I wear my helmet 99% of the time. The one percent is when I forget it at home and we are on a trip or have reached our destination for riding. Some people I know refuse to wear a helmet even when I beg them to. There are bad drivers and bad cyclists. I was a pedestrian and almost got hit by a car crossing at a crosswalk during the day. It was still light outside in the afternoon. The driver was turning right on red and wasn’t paying attention to see if anyone was crossing the street. I saw it and had to step backwards to not get hit. The driver kept going not realizing they almost hit someone. If my processing speed was going slower that moment I would have been hit.I will try to be more visible from now on. A lot of my clothes are black or dark blue. In my experience being a cyclist or a pedestrian is more dangerous than driving a car, even though I don’t drive. I have been a passenger in cars my whole life. I have also ridden my bike on the streets with my mom my whole life. I have also gotten stuck in the middle of intersections before because I sometimes ride slower than the red light lasts. Which is a dangerous and scary position to be in. Luckily no one has gotten hurt those few times. Sincerely, Mina Cheetah

@25pence 10 ай бұрын

Lit had an argument with one about roundabouts (I also ride a road bike for fun) Guy trying to claim he was in the correct lane the guy went from left lane to right to middle, basically straight lined it, it’s not safe for anybody and even after I brought up the Highway Code for cars and cyclists that explains how lanes work on a roundabout and how to use them safely he still argued that he was correct 😂😂 dumb as hell that’s how people get hit all the time because cars will not be patient and try overtake and crossing lanes twice to go straight ahead instead of staying left and using signals is just dangerous..

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

You seem to have experienced a silly cyclist!

@25pence 10 ай бұрын

@@ollierrides a KZbinr actually, even made a short trying to ridicule me lol, I was just leaving advice for others safety, live your content mate I’m new but will be sticking around

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

@@25pence Ah no! Ah thats very nice, appreciate that! Spread the word!

@conrad6226 10 ай бұрын

I wonder how many of those who responded were overweight...

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness 🫢

@BikepackingAdventures 10 ай бұрын

Valid question... probably way above 50%.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Haha, I love the confidence! Who needs to settle for 50% when you can aim for the stars, right?

@paulallen3511 9 ай бұрын

I've seen plenty of cyclists act like fools on the roads, but 99% of the reasons drivers say the hate cyclist are just excuses for the fact that they really hate cyclists because they have to slow down for a few seconds and figure out how to safely pass. Thats the real reason, but they know they sound like assholes if they say that, so they nitpick about things that dont really affect them, like cyclists running a red light, etc.

@ollierrides 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment, Paul. I can see where you're coming from...

@robglysen 10 ай бұрын

Its because roads are car shaped and everything is made with drivers in mind, which gives them a sense of entitlement, which one could say is almost not their fault. Massive, absolutely massive lack of critical thinking going on.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

That is a good point. Roads are almost completely designed for cars in mind.

@stansky111 10 ай бұрын

i think i’ve found my new favourite youtuber

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate that! - share the video on socials!

@xkimopye 10 ай бұрын

I was a state championship rider, and where I live (Melbourne, Australia) there is this road called Beach Road, and 9 out of 10 cyclists use the road instead of the perfect bike lane next to the road. I’ve seen cyclists ride not 1 lane wide, not 2 lanes wide but 2.5 lanes wide, which is over to the opposite side of the road into oncoming traffic. When I was driving I had to drive on the opposite side of beach road to overtake them. It was utterly insane. An elderly man was crossing at a pedestrian red light crossing and was bowled over by these same cyclists and died at the seen. Cyclists in Melbourne cannot earn the respect of the public when they continue to behave like this.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your detailed responce. It's a shame when some cyclists take too much of the rod up, we all need to SHARE the road and the bike lanes.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Please share the video to your pals that would like to know more about this!

@petergibson7287 2 ай бұрын

It’s nice that you leave out the truth of the old guy getting killed. The cyclist DID NOT run a red light when the crash happened and he was declared not at fault. Which is why he wasn’t charged for it. And the perfect cycle path you mentioned is not perfect at all; it’s choc full of slow cyclists and children, pedestrians and dog walkers with the lead across the path and pram pushers. The cyclists on the road are of the performance type and they should be on the road. It doesn’t matter how much of the lane they use.

@xkimopye 2 ай бұрын

@@petergibson7287 your facts are wrong. Here is the article: “A cyclist who hit and killed an elderly pedestrian during Melbourne's 'Hell Ride' has pleaded guilty and been fined for failing to stop at a red light.” 31-year-old William Raisin-Shaw struck 77-year-old James Gould on Beach Road in Mentone in August last year. Mr Gould died in hospital the next day.” Performance cyclists should do so while completely obeying the road laws, and to cycle as not to be a pest to the community. Otherwise cyclists should be using the velodrome. Beach road is not a racing track, and the beach road hell riders attitude is beyond appalling.

@KeepItSimpleSailor Ай бұрын

Cyclists don’t really bother me. I grew up when bicycles were every kid’s freedom and transport - and we did all sorts of crazy nonsense. As I see it a bit of patience goes a long way. I do acknowledge It’s better for everyone when cyclists follow road rules, noting that car doors being swung open is a serious risk . But basically I don’t understand the hate by so many other road users.

@MaximilianRoth-v5h 10 ай бұрын

I commuted to work for about half a year now (by bike), from time to time I run a red light, only if I'm 100 % certain that no one else has a disadvantage from it. Probably not fair though…

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, it does depend on the situation, you're right! Some countries allow it when turning a corner. - please share the video on your socials, if you can!

@subuntu 10 ай бұрын

A red light is a red light. See this is the problem, cyclists select what rules they want to follow when it suits them, and if it doesn't they won't.

@subuntu 10 ай бұрын

@@ollierrides If the national laws prohibit it, they it is absolutely not situational. The only time it does become so imo is if the lights have broken and stuck, the highway code explains what to do in that situation even.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

@@subuntu You tell 'em!

@petergibson7287 2 ай бұрын

@@subuntuso, just like car drivers?

@marioncousins1407 10 ай бұрын

Well done ollie for great tips 👏 😊

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Marian cousins!

@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 9 ай бұрын

I think the media does not help, papers like the daily main always showing anti cycling articles. Nice video though

@ollierrides 9 ай бұрын

Yeah that's so true. Media is cruel.

@jonathanread658 10 ай бұрын

All very good points - and well considered. We all need to share.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Jon!

@johnfowler4820 10 ай бұрын

It's because us cyclists make way more progress in city situations and highlight that the car driver has clearly made the wrong transport choice.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

The man has a point 🫡

@scotwolf7826 2 ай бұрын

I see many reasons to hate but no reasons to like or love cyclists

@marchlander1 2 ай бұрын

Feeling are mutual towards drivers. You hate us for not using the cycle lane, but at the same time you use it for parking. There is so much contradiction. Waiting a few seconds to overtake us is so infuriating, while few minutes later you'll be stuck in traffic for half an hour with me cruising pass you and giving you the middle finger with a smirk on my face.

@andrewthomas2406 2 ай бұрын

@@marchlander1 I would rather be stuck in traffic with my fellow motorist than be a cycle wa^ker

@marchlander1 2 ай бұрын

@@andrewthomas2406 You just envy us, because you're lazy.

@tyronealaka6537 10 ай бұрын

Delivery drivers are the worst on there mopeds

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

🛵 💨🤔

@joselui2608 9 ай бұрын

I don't play basket in the highway.... Pos eso kopon....

@ollierrides 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment!

@petergibson7287 2 ай бұрын

Drivers hate everyone. Just witness how they treat each other for confirmation. Car drivers are jealous of cyclists because they satisfy a large chunk of their transport needs for free, aren’t impacted by traffic and fuel prices and parking difficulties, and are fitter and healthier by simply going about their ordinary lives. These facts are why I started riding a bicycle everywhere.

@andrewthomas2406 2 ай бұрын

B S, i hate cyclist because they look stupid in the lycra,the cycle helmets are also stupid looking (and pointless ),they slow us vehicle drivers down, if you cant keep up with the speed limit on a road then you shouldnt be alloed to use your mode of transport on it.and you should take out separate insurance too.

@simonlee7121 10 ай бұрын

Sure, you don’t have to use the bike lane, but cars HAVE to use the car lane. So pretty natural for a driver to be annoyed if a cyclist cogs the car lane when bike lane exists on the same road.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Very true point! I think a clean, empty bike lane and a cyclist on a busy road could be a bad idea? What do you think?

@FrozenDung 10 ай бұрын

@ollierrides if the bike lane isn't a poor quality road i don't see why you would want to ride with cars as people in this country have no courtesy for anyone not in a car

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

@@FrozenDung Good point, use it if in good order however, I think it's principle. If we never learn to share the road then we'll never be able to use the roads in harmony. The majority of UK roads do not have bike lanes.

@MrSimezzes 10 ай бұрын

Here in L.A. we have a great bike path along the beach, unless sand makes it impassable or there are just too many beach cruisers, which make it difficult and unsafe for those of us moving faster than 15 kph. I have been yelled at for not being on the path when riding, legally, on the road. Cars are king here and there is a small but very vocal group of angry drivers.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

LA riding looks amazing,in some areas! Yeah I think that's true. Cars seem to be top of the 'list' which I think will have to change soon.

@subuntu 10 ай бұрын

Obeying the road laws is not a matter of "it depends on the circumstances." The fuck it does. You obey the same as every other road user. Just last week I watched a cyclist in front of me ignore the red light and when I commented on it, I got such a torrent of abuse. And cyclists wonder why other road users don't like them.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Definitely not a nice interaction, everyone has to follow the rules of the road, but many rules of the road are designed for cars. RED LIGHTS are definitely a must, IMO. Bad experiences from an individual shouldn't negatively impact your views of cyclists, but sure, it doesn't help. It's very similar for riders on drivers visa versa.

@subuntu 10 ай бұрын

@@ollierrides While I imagine you have some specifics in mind with that statement, the rules of the road are for road users; period. It isn't one single individual, it seems to be generally fairly widespread that cyclists are a law unto themselves. I live down country lanes. There are entire gangs of them that refuse to move for miles, I've lost count of the number of times I've been stuck behind 20 of them between town and home, spread out over a large distance travelling at what, 18-20mph and never once have I seen them pull over and let vehicles through. It's infuriating beyond belief. If you are holding up traffic you are supposed to allow them to pass from time to time as I have to on agricultural machines. Regardless of the law, it's common decency.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

@@subuntu It's mind set, they have as much right to use the roads as you do. It's all mind set. In example, people of Vietnam and Thailand use bicycles and motorbikes a way of life. It may be a 1 minute inconvenience to overtake a cyclist or two/three, but when you join the road these are hazards that have been using roads before cars were ever invented.

@ollierrides 10 ай бұрын

I'll leave us to agree and disagree with certain points. Thank you for your time 🕰️

@subuntu 10 ай бұрын

@@ollierrides Ahhh, yea it is mind set. I must not have the right mind set to think that in 4 miles at 18mph they might let me past.. My mindset is the issue. Not the mind set of 20-30 cyclists who are happy to leave a few vehicles crawling behind them for quite literally miles. My mindset is wrong when they jump red lights, don't stop at and just swing out of junctions expecting me to swerve out of their way, go the wrong way up a one way street, jump onto the pavement if the traffic is blocked on the road. It isn't just the odd one, or the issue drivers have with cyclists wouldn't be so wide spread..... But I'll just toddle off and correct my thinking.