Asking Random People to Rate Our Boulders

[@JoshRundle]

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[@matteobecchi1210]

"I'm gonna flash everything in my trainers" is definitely most routesetters vibe 😂😂😂

[@slimaque727]

Trainers? Too well fitted. Crocs are better

[@Tom.Climbs]

Crocks and trainers , pfft weak , do it in flipflops

[@zkam900]

@@slimaque727 nah bro, feet

[@theblackfox0124]

​@@slimaque727 Nah, moccasins. There was a guy who worked at the gym who walked over to a super crimpy and hard start to 5.11 with the tiniest footholds and just did it in moccasins. You would have thought the shoe bottoms were hard rubber, but then the guy folded them in half

[@Mike-y3h]

Fr I laughed so hard when she said that but it’s so true!

[@kim98677]

Yeah, stand under the ladder and push it while I lose the last screw on this massive torso sized volume right above you 😂😂😂

[@heddevh]

Pure efficiency

[@CowsGoMonkey]

It's so she can break the fall so it doesn't get damaged duh!

[@notheories9012]

The yellow hold climb was so beautiful and looked the better technical climb by a long way. The pink one just looked fun to throw your body around on but at the end of the day most of us boulder for fun.

[@Bill-Burns]

i feel like routesetting is the thing every climber thinks they could do, yet every time they watch someone do it, realise just how hard it is

[@seaoc6578]

As someone who's been route setting at a small gym for about four years now, that's so, so, so true. I really didn't think it'd be that hard, but there's so much to consider and I've learned I love it nearly as much and sometimes more than climbing itself. It's so fulfilling seeing someone struggle through and then top out on a project that you set for them that they enjoyed. That's the part I've always loved most, as well as the puzzle aspect of creating it.

[@chaozzah]

@@seaoc6578 I don't really feel like it's hard per se, but as you can clearly see in this video, experience matters a lot for efficiency and speed. They eventually made a fun boulder (though not in grade range, fun is more important than grade) by just thinking of "what would be a fun next move" from the body position. But, they had to do it every single time. And they misjudged how good/bad holds were on the wall, adding even more time. He would've put it up in under an hour I think, and proper, not rushed. I'm a "volunteer" setter at my gym as well, also four years, and just helped 2-3 new people get started. Our gym is top rope only, 8-15m walls, ancient holds (still massive, heavy!). I put in a route in the longest, steepest overhang, and in the same time they put a simpler one on the 8m vert. I had one maybe foothold (too good) that I didn't end up changing, they had 3-4. Not because the moves weren't fun, but they were just too hard for the rest of the route. So they did great! It just took them a lot longer, just like here :)

[@Idiomatick]

I started building a home wall (slab) and its hard as heck. Fun though

[@andnowwecry9225]

This feels very much like a spectacle vs. technical style battle. The pink looks better but the yellow seems better set.

[@jonaskarlsson5901]

erm what's the difference between "seems better set" and "looks better"?

[@eadelindizon9514]

@@jonaskarlsson5901 i would imagine 'looks better' refers to the appearance, whereas 'seems better set' means while it's definitely not the most eye-catching when your eyes look across all the walls in the gym, more things were considered in the process of setting it, like technique, foothold placement, handhold positioning to force certain moves.. stuff like that.

[@joeybissell4196]

the pink one was much more technical, the yellow was basic moves with positive jug crimps and big feet

[@ribbitfroog]

@@joeybissell4196 .... surely... you cant be serious?

[@lirich0]

@@joeybissell4196surely you aren’t colorblind?

[@nickdefrancis]

I feel like the fact that only 1 person topped pink (with quite a bit of try hard) while many people topped yellow says something about them being on grade :P

[@maddhamstr]

As a routesetter i believe that most of the intermediate climbers have really strong fingers compared to the grade they usually climb. Poor technique and strong fingers - thats why its easier for them to climb a crimp ladder

[@Fallenangel_85]

@@maddhamstr You say that, but that pink thing forces you to catch a reachy sloper one handed, with barely any foot support or non. The yellow had actual feet and was doable with minimal strength + good technique. The pink one is more a V5/6 or worse for smaller climbers.

[@mikeroberts817]

Surely the yellow boulder wins by virtue of actually seeming to be around v4? Only one person tops the pink boulder and they appear to be a very strong climber and as tall as Josh...

[@Fallenangel_85]

I totally agree. The worst boulders are those that miss the grading mark a lot, just makes the people trying them feel like shit.

[@timonix2]

I remember it being fun to set boulders at my old gym. It was not a commercial gym so we did not have any paid routesetters, so the members had to build everything instead. You could really see the personality and style depending on the setter. Really pushing things to their own personal limit

[@professor_chestnut]

It all comes back to Magnus.

[@gingobingo1567]

As the old saying goes..... All roads lead to Magnus.

[@poolkrooni]

I hope the lead pun was intentional

[@RedHornSSS]

honestly those lil crimps are one of my favourite holds

[@uncletobsy]

@uncletobsy I love the flow from Caileans route. It looks like it flows so nicely, but yours and Melissa's got that nice dyno flair to it which everyone loves and the kneebar is a chef's kiss. Big props to both climbs!!

[@Harry-pi3by]

Was wondering who set that pink, been stuck on it for weeks now. Thanks Josh.

[@invincaspartan]

Don't have to worry about that gym flooding if those are some V4s. Got a bunch of sand bags lined up for it.

[@DragonSlayerBrick]

In Australia these would be V3/V4.

[@moritzwegge6835]

dude I just love these amateur vs. pro setting vids :) never getting tired of it !

[@philaeew4866]

That is a very funny premise. And a great video result. Good job, you've got a new fan!

[@astPEZ]

@arotang love the content and the witty banter. Always look forward to watching your videos

[@Akegata42]

I can already say in the first 10 seconds that I wold like the bigger holds better. It doesn't matter how well a crimpy boulder is set, there's just something visceral about huge hold.

[@muffinfan2652]

I had the exact opposite thought lol. Big holds are so hard to hold onto for my hands. It is probably an issue of muscle strength. It would be interesting to know why that is exactly so I could train for it. Interestingly half of my friends prefer the crimps, the other half prefer the bigger holds. It's so intriguing how divided the climbing community is on this. I love it.

[@theblackfox0124]

I knew in the first 10 seconds of the video I would prefer the climb by the actual route setter. I have better chances of something that makes sense, flows, and everything makes sense

[@Bobonautti]

Both problems seemed very nice!

[@Scientist12345678910]

14:15 as a car guy... pain

[@thebooduck]

At least it’s white, nobody is going to notice the clear-coat scratches 😂

[@tannerjohnson847]

Spot on. SO good to see the "stranger" climbing the routes! Peak community vibes.

[@Fallenangel_85]

The Pink monster is a typical Korean TikTok Boulder. The yellow one is just elegant and technical. The Pink one totally missed the mark on difficulty and is so much more dangerous for injuries. My vote goes to the yellow for sure.

[@UndeadFil]

Both boulders look like bangers I'd love to climb them both! Please come to Canada and set me one or two!

[@agario5161]

great video love that you did another part of this idea :)

[@ManuelOctavio]

What a fun video! Great one, Josh!

[@debradaugherty8287]

Awesome combination of just pure fun with real climbing! Great vid!

[@KeltererDesWahrenMets]

I really like these setting videos as I find setting interesting. One thing I don’t like about these videos is, that Josh is always “jokingly” trying to influence the testers. I realize it is difficult to obfuscate the setter from people in the gym but trying to do so would definitely improve the videos for me.

[@Tou.B.]

That was fun to watch❤

[@MAD-Climbs]

They both look like great boulders. I would def try both!

[@poolkrooni]

As someone looking to build a home wall and shopping online for holds, where does one get those "50p" holds? 😢

[@Maddieb703]

It’s true. At first I thought you only had one outfit but now I know it’s because you’re head to toe in rúngne at every occasion.

[@JoshRundle]

Always got to dress in the best

[@wglao]

@wesleygarlao Love these videos Josh! Would be interesting to see like a setter telephone game where setters have to continue setting boulders started by other setters and they can't remove holds

[@codylox41]

As a climber I know that I prefer the cheaper holds just because they suit my style better

[@brunom28]

@brunom2803 I usually like the cheap, fingery boulders a lot more, but i got to admit, the pink holds look amazing, and that knee bar at the top is just fantastic. I think I'd have a hard time deciding which one's better because both of them look really fun to climb.

[@Morvajo]

@Mario_Orva Honestly both look really fun! The pink one is the one you’d feel the coolest when you stick the move while the yellow one is where you’d show of your technique a bit more. I’d love to try both!

[@KrispClimbs]

The movement on that yellow looks so good... but I'm definitely picking that pink 😅 Although you could set a whole gym of "yellows" for the price of one pink. So if I was a gym owner it would have to be 🟡 😶

[@deltalima6703]

I liked the pink one. I do feel they just lucky, they didnt really have a plan.

[@boulderup9c]

That was SO FUN!

[@FlashFocused]

Neeed that hoodie!

[@evanthomas6805]

Snail

[@kyrax888]

@marcusramjam My dad said if I don't win this hoodie, he's gonna put me in a triangle. 😞😭

[@rostedtjr]

@rostedt, good to see Magnus best friend being so caring.

[@dividead100]

Banter is fun but for any type of contest your should really have the person presenting the options be impartial.

[@JoshRundle]

I was completely impartial 😅😉

[@MarcusH...]

I really didn't know what i was looking at in that thumbnail.. I thought the "beginners" were holding pool floats and the "pro" a dart arrow

[@PPKFilms]

@loicppk Loved the banter, I seriously laughed out loud at a bunch of moments, great group dynamic here Josh !

[@isai5774]

@jesse.boulders I really like your routesetting videos! Hope to be a routesetter one day.

[@catmoonkenobi]

When you stop winning comps perhaps?? Hello from a random fan at Hamilton Boulder Co.

[@keilanclc1609]

@keilanpiper. Gotta get that matching rungne to rep!

[@tchoberu1]

@OlivierDostie Love the settings video! Keep it up Josh 🦾💥

[@codingwithlukas5288]

Omg I want to try them so much

[@mystishio]

@mystishio Loving the video! You and Cailean always crack me up😂

[@innok5032]

You can't actually compare these two boulders as they are entirely different in every way! Plus the yellow is 10x better on looks and grade!

[@saschakowalski2489]

Wo that was fun!

[@Corocos14]

@humbermacias great video! Seems so difficult to set a boulder

[@mymusicmindmmm2542]

"and we can finish on the climbing hangars logo"

[@ÁronBressel-d1w]

where do u buy that many holds for 20 quid?

[@LetsChat]

Amazon set.

[@juliuskeller2529]

@julius.kllr How do you Regulate the Nm given By the impact wrench ?

[@matteobadaracco]

Funniest sponsorship ever!!😂

[@mattjensen9240]

please tell me where you are buying that many holds for 20$

[@spencerhauck8122]

@spencerhauckmusic Really cool video! Both boulders look really fun

[@timonix2]

I think the pink one was a bit too height dependant. But overall looks really good.

[@bavokegels8929]

the start of the 2 should be different, you can be super cheaky with it

[@sav7458]

This is where macros just draw a crowd, as a setter the movement on yellow is vastly superior than pink but unfortunately the holds just turn people off.

[@loictonneau5373]

@quiiloe thanks for the collab and the code !

[@chrisembry3736]

epic climbs. wish i were there to try them out :(

[@SeanMilligan-kj5ok]

Yes - by sheer visual appeal, the results are no surprise BUT.......from a business perspective the equation is little more complex - it took two people far more than twice the time and exponentially more material resources to produce a product that wasn't even twice as popular. The pink problem may have won the short term contest but it's an unsustainable model for commercial success. My vote (as an industry professional) is for Josh's problem (no contest).

[@SpencerBorchert]

I give my vote towards yellow, I love crimps🤣

[@juicerofapples6805]

@thosearentholds So ready to fall off your boulder

[@buddydoesstuff000]

@Buddydoesstuff Josh "Magnus and I are best friends" Magnus " He Said What??!?!"

[@Yzzin]

@yzzin95 Fun vid, route setting really does seem like such a hard thing to learn and do well.

[@sebarrow663]

@sebmarcell Always nice to see that you've uploaded a new video, now let's watch it! 🤞💪👍

[@theloveofmyfamily1781]

Make more videos with Melissa (my coach)

[@dominickhadaroo4399]

Love the vid just a little safety head's up, your using the ladder the wrong way round the higher part is supposed to be underneath the lower part, not sure if that makes sense. Hope it's constructive criticism only made to improve yourself love the vids

[@olivierpaquette3538]

Hoodiieee!!!!

[@JoshRundle]

Don’t forget you IG handle though!!!

[@WookieOnEndor]

Puppy😊

[@Blocindyno]

@blocindyno I’m a HUGE fan ! Don’t stop 🤟!!

[@harrydb1513]

@harry.db , love your videos they got me into climbing beginner for around 4 months now and loving it!!

[@notheories9012]

Side note the pink was much harder than the yellow, don't know about them being the same grade

[@Index_HD]

@ludwig_climbs As somewhat a setter myself, I can say, it doesn't depend on the size (my gym just doesnt buy big holds 😑)

[@mikoajfitowski8704]

@nikilojfit loving the content man! Hope to get my hands on this hoodie :D

[@evansahakian3653]

Josh has a striking resemblance to Jaime Lannister

[@evansahakian3653]

Sorry not Josh, the other guy

[@matthijsschrijvers]

@matthijs.schrijvers I love your videos, and It's very interesting to see the different thought processes going into the boulders.

[@antonkisss7418]

Good vid

[@RealWorldClimbing]

@realworldclimbing Great video. I too like claiming people are my friends when in actuality we are acquaintances at best 🤪

[@SlothandTree]

@J_kyn_ Loving the collab videos and seeing the routes-etting!🙏

[@ludocoker]

Snail 🐌

[@ehehe2905]

Snail

[@Bertie.-_]

Snail

[@snappie5835]

Snail

[@SharkLanderrr]

Snail

[@reinout1950]

Snail

[@leaps5553]

@ailidhn. Would love that hoodie!

[@mitchellmcintyre7980]

@mitchellmcintyree I love your videos as well as Magnus’! Thanks for all the content that you make, I know it can’t be easy 😭 I would love that hoodie from the depths of my heart, and I also can’t afford it 💀 Have a good one and I’ll be praying over there in the corner (for the hoodie btw lol)

[@jonaskarlsson5901]

money is everything when it comes to route setting XD

[@DEClimb]

Uhhh what if we don’t have instagram 😢

[@robertfite9919]

@rfitesends sick climbs also I’m a team kid who likes to touch solid objects (climbing holds)

[@fpswreck538]

ahh i dont have instagram :(

[@addy941]

0:14 that my friend climbing

[@thomaswagner8650]

Nice :)

[@jonnes__4657]

🗽 Holds for $10k, that is insane! .

[@Oliverw_climbs]

Got to see you set this but, I didnt stay for the testing.

[@codingwithlukas5288]

Also please let better people try them too

[@erikcarlson2261]

@erik__carlson About time i actually smash the subscribe button. Have watched your videos for ages anyway :)

[@alexrayner9855]

@vertical_venture new hoody would be great!

[@pablodesancristobal5627]

@wangostv Snail Sick boulders!

[@granville.realestate]

Granvilleneoo

[@serratos97]

@serratos97 from Mexico, currently a Rugne client :)