Asking Scousers about Keir Starmer

[@PoliticsJOE]

Will Keir Starmer's most recent, and left wing, speech convince them to change their minds? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXLJXpmDqcmqgKs

[@bigbobbobby2398]

Watch al jazeeras Labour files scary times for a Labour supporter

[@Dewsta26]

@@bigbobbobby2398 you a Tory bot or what mate

[@thumper8684]

@@Dewsta26 That documentary speaks to the lived experience of people on the left of the party*. Plenty of solid Labour supporters have quit due to the bullshit attitude of the PLP and the NEC. Why do you want to stop people watching this? *edit {somehow I put BBC instead of the Labour party}

[@Dewsta26]

@@thumper8684 I was talking to Big booby, and referring to him spamming the same comment without conversing any further. I've watched the documentary and feel we need to rid the Labour party of these red Tories.

[@thumper8684]

@@Dewsta26 Big bob Bobby posted this about 4 or 5 times on this video. It looks good faith to me, as do your posts. Solidarity?

[@MrDesmondPot]

Heartening to see so many people aware of what is happening. Keep on Liverpool ✊🏼

[@joshg2603]

Liverpool have always been aware of the rotten Tory twats.

[@BunyanaRed1958]

The choices we have to vote for are very poor. But I'd rather give Starmer a go now than have 7 more years of Truss. Look how shite she is after just two weeks. Her and the Chancellor are clueless. I would have loved to have had Corbyn as PM, but it ain't going to happen sadly. Mick Lynch would be a good politician for the working class.

[@MegaKapo12]

Or Boris back.

[@traceybradbury5022]

#wewantboris

[@mr.thegreat557]

One day people will wake up and stop voting Labour AND Conservative. Until that day comes this country is only going to get worse.

[@archieyarr9357]

@@mr.thegreat557 that won’t happen without proportional representation, something that lots of labour members want :)

[@mr.thegreat557]

@@archieyarr9357 PR is something the Left and the Right agree on.

[@samfoston4231]

Purple Aki had a feel of Starmers arms and smiled… so that’s a vote of confidence from him.

[@bazza5699]

scousers are the salt of the earth.. respect to them for always telling it like it is.

[@elsviec]

were there scousers in this video

[@pow474]

@@elsviec not all scousers have thick accents and wear north face mate

[@bazza5699]

@@elsviec only the ones born within the sound of bow bells :)

[@georgejob2156]

Liverpool,from Lanarkshire Scotland,boys, your the creme de la crème, from a true Socialist in Scotland, Scottish Labour are Blairites, not for me... Best wishes ✊

[@gingerguinea-pigfromoneoft6394]

it’s because half of us are pissed all the time and the other half just couldn’t give a toss about any of them

[@solidoperative]

Why can't they just get behind the leader to get the Tories out.

[@XeNeXX]

literally, they complain but they never change their votes or go out to vote, its pathetic

[@danieldineen5219]

They will still vote Labour it's Liverpool. they're just being honest

[@solidoperative]

@@danieldineen5219 they certainly are being honest. My issue is that they seem like they would rather work against leader because he isn't their preference.

[@randomname3109]

one should not support a punch in the face in order to no longer be kicked in the dick...

[@esme8944]

@@danieldineen5219 trouble is their views are being heard all over the country and Starmer is trying to win the Conservative voters, so you either want Labour or more of the Tories.

[@wofutokerati]

What’s most annoying about the sorts of people interviewed is that they’re either; Students that are still able to go back to mum n dads at half-term, or people old enough to have been able to purchase their homes for the change in their back pockets years ago and are now relatively stable. The realisation that Corbynism had failed almost broke me, but I’m a father of 2, working 2 jobs and simply can’t afford to be ideological anymore. Get Starmer in and push further left from there. Principles won’t feed my kids!

[@pseudonayme7717]

Corbynism didn't fail. It was deliberately destroyed by the right with the help of their powerful media disinformation campaign.

[@paulfr6768]

Hear, hear. Tories have left me skint! Get Labour in now!!

[@fookorf]

Nice generalisations.

[@jamie69murphy]

Labour right win a majority in an election, and you can forget the party ever moving left again.

[@wofutokerati]

@@fookorf they’re as much of a barrier to a change of government as the average Tory voter and as explained, niceties are a luxury at this point.

[@mathieuleader8601]

Don't forget that that Starmers labour scuppered Anna Rothery to be Mayor of Liverpool

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

Labour can do this. Keirs idea starting a renewable energy company is exactly the kind of thinking we need. We need to just vote out the conservatives. Things take time but we have to start one thing at a time and continuously maintain the momentum. The conservatives are not as smart as us, and we need to focus on a continuity strategy that ensures the momentum of a labour government continues. That’s how you achieve long term goals and better policies. People will come around in time, but unfortunately we don’t know how to maintain the momentum long term. Good strategists (like myself) know how to achieve longevity. Clear public Communication is key. 🔑

[@saturnsandjupiters358]

Finally someone who knows what they’re talking about! Keir Starmer is going to save this country at last!

[@saturnsandjupiters358]

@Oxide Magicus Keir is just worried that the right-wing press will attack him the moment he tries to announce any left leaning policies. He doesn’t want the same fate as Corbyn - his desire is to be elected and to kick out the Tories.

[@-The-Golden-God-]

The problem is, state run services are notoriously crap.

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

@@-The-Golden-God- well let’s change that once an for all, let’s push our leaders to act.

[@-The-Golden-God-]

@@problemsolverthinktank859 That would require some to be pushed off a cliff.

[@patientfourtwozero2714]

Very interesting video. Keep up the great work with the channel. I've really found myself becoming less apathetic towards politics in the UK recently. I am starting to feel more hopeful about the potential for change and I'm sure these kind of videos are a decent part of it. Sharing these kind of interviews really helps to showcase how many people are passionate about reforms that would help ordinary people. Your content certainly feels like it helps me to my head above water after 12 years of tories anyway. I'm sure plenty of other people feel that way too. If I had one small criticism though, maybe you might want to consider providing some kind of wind-shielded mics for your roving reporters instead of iPhones. There were a few comments from those interviewed that I couldn't really make out very well. Thanks for taking the time to read this feedback too, presuming anyone ever does.

[@oneoflokis]

@DoubtingThomas After years of Tory mismanagement, under stressful times, it's not surprising! But I suppose it took a) Rishi Sunak no longer subsidising middle class people and some workers to stay at home b) Home energy prices doubling, and threatening to triple and c) NOW there's a significant interest rate rise, and already the spectre of repossessions. THAT'S what got the Tories out in the 1990s, and they stayed out for years. I'd be RUBBING MY HANDS 🙌, if Corbyn or someone as good as Corbyn, were still in the Labour leadership.mm 🙂

[@Jonbombs]

These people would rather have 100% of nothing than 50% of something.

[@trashman1358]

Just a little Welsh boy here - Come on the Scousers! Hold the line! We will be triumphant!!! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP!!!

[@mr.thegreat557]

I’m from Liverpool, these aren’t scousers, believe me.

[@goattm2]

Dude, you will sound more scouse than these people in the video.

[@gingerguinea-pigfromoneoft6394]

@@mr.thegreat557 they should interview the bloke who does the beatles music by the statues of them,proper scouse legend him

[@Dewsta26]

*The* *Left* *Ain't* *Dead!* Respect lads and lassies! ❤️🖤🚩🏴

[@bigbobbobby2398]

Watch al jazeera Labour files

[@Dewsta26]

@@bigbobbobby2398 I have already. We need to purge the _Red_ Tories!

[@mr.thegreat557]

Haven’t you seen the rise of Nationalism across Europe? Liberalism is dying out. People have had enough of its hypocrisy.

[@JDRacing-j2v]

if you ever want to get elected it is.

[@markbebber2284]

Unfortunately labour under Starmer will change nothing even if he is elected as PM, the man is a waste of space.

[@sojounourtruth2980]

What's wrong with this channel? Do we want the Tories out or not?

[@zulaikalondon]

If the labour party is just tory lite what is the point? They have the same ideological base.

[@saturnsandjupiters358]

@@zulaikalondon No they fucking don’t!? The Tories are taking from the poor to give to the rich, but Labour wants to renationalise energy companies and bring power to the people! How is that ‘the same ideological base’?

[@pow474]

@@zulaikalondon lesser of two evils isn’t it

[@jameslindsay5889]

@@pow474 Sounds a lot like 'any blue will do' in the US. Who cares about policy lets just beat the other party and we can celebrate on twitter.

[@SilentReports]

Yes we want the Tories out. Labour are Tories too.

[@AnEnemy100]

Sir Starmer is an establishment place holder for continued Tory rule.

[@vintagesoup79]

How many people criticising in the comments voted Liberal Democrats in 2019?

[@faves2064]

The problem with most of these people is that theyd rather tear down the current leadership, let the Tories win again and batch at the sidelines rather than affect real change.

[@TheEmperorPigeon]

The only reason why Labour Mayor's Tracy Brabin (West Yorkshire), Andy Burnham (Greater Manchester), and Steve Rotherham (Liverpool) are moving to the left is as it is always: political opportunism and the ability to appear different to both the current leadership and the Tories. The Labour mayors can't lose; because if Starmer "leads the Labour Party to victory" (as the often used phrase goes, ditto Conservatives) then they're in key positions already and if Starmer loses then they're in key positions to take over the Labour Party...but the problem is that there is a left-wing and a right-wing side to the Labour Party in the first place. The gentleman who thinks the left is as strong as ever has got his blinkers on. A great many Labour members have quit and either went independent or joined my lot: the Green Party. Additionally, this is at the ordinary membership level and at the elected official level and this should be a worry to Labour. However, Labour sees the Greens as being "mad left-wing vegan hippy extremist environmentalists" that "steal our [Labour's] votes" and I heard this for myself from Labour at the election count when I stood as a Green candidate back in 2021. Suffice it to say, Labour are entitled little so-and-so's that need to make a decision: are they indeed left of centre as advertised *or* is it the usual Labour tactic of just having a veneer to mug the lefties into thinking that Labour is their only choice (which it isn't). In closing, those that are truly on the left of the political spectrum that are remaining in the Labour Party are nothing but useful idiots that will be cast aside as soon they're of no more use.

[@DayVid2.0]

This channel is doing great work

[@adamkennedy7297]

😆😆

[@jamesohara1012]

Look at Starmers attitude to dealing with the SNP, a party that has protected the Scots from some of the most vitriolic Tory policies. He had more anger towards them than he had for the Tories. Scotland is going to be Independent, we saw through the British Labour party a long time ago.

[@pseudonayme7717]

Too true my man. They might as well be called the London Labour Party, cos that is who they will serve.

[@jamie69murphy]

Labour cannot win an election without Scottish support. Corbyn would easily have taken a majority in 2017 if he had Scottish support.

[@J14Irish]

Still better than the Tories...

[@vitocorleone7040]

@J14 If Starmer wins the next election he will be slaughtered and the Tories will come back straight away. Labour Party unfortunately are convinced being centre right Tory lite is the way forward, they are going to have to lose another general election before they learn the hard way that working class people don’t want a Tory pandering party. Starmer and his allies need to be replaced by a new working class party

[@jake751]

Not with that spelling 🤪

[@bothi00]

Imagine thinking 'slightly better than the Tories' is anywhere near good enough. Blair was 'slightly better than Thatcher (and the jury's out on that one considering Iraq and NHS privatisation). Voters like you are what allow politics to deteriorate and shift to the right

[@barryk00da]

@@bothi00 What do you propose? Anything other than tactical voting to get as many Labour seats/as few Tory seats as possible is self-defeating.

[@thecrimsondragon9744]

Yes, but answers to the same people. He won't be much of an improvement but for now we'll have to make do. An emergency GE needs to be called before the Tories do anymore damage.

[@jshskylark]

I'm afraid the reality we are in is you either choose a diluted version of your ideals in Starmer's Labour or the complete antithesis of your ideals in Truss' Tories. The choice really should not be a difficult one. For these chaps, hold your nose, get rid of the Tories and build from there.

[@GavinHitchens]

Its nice to know you think that, there are sensible people in the country!

[@mic.kelly86]

Exactly

[@JezC]

Spot on. Some distressingly naive and narrow perspectives from some of the talking heads here

[@junglie]

exactly what we did with blair & look what he did, led us to an illegal war & bailed out the bankers while continuing the tories privatisation plans for the nhs!

[@joshg2603]

It’s because pretty much 99% of people loved Corbyn so much that they would never fully accept someone like Starmer. We’re a socialist city.

[@thomaspalmer36]

I don't have a problem with anyone moaning about politicians, as long as they vote.

[@jake751]

Totally agree. I will never vote conservative and I will never vote for labour under starmer. I'll lend my vote to the greens.

[@johng1181]

yeah agree

[@solidoperative]

I would love to know with Atlee excluded if necessary which Labour Prime Minister these people hold in high regard.

[@mattysav4627]

Atlee participated in the Korean War

[@blue47er]

Atlee's government did more to redress the balance of British politics than any predecessor. The council house building programme; the nationalisation of the railways and other key services; the establishment of the NHS free at the point of delivery, and a free Dental NHS service. I was a boy of eight when Atlee came to power, and a workiing-class lad who was given a valuable education that enabled me to thrive and progress,

[@solidoperative]

@@blue47er that's why I said Atlee excluded as he would be an obvious choice. That is why I want to know whether these people have any affinity with any other Labour Prime Minister and whether they hold them in the same breath as Starmer.

[@ypatel1070]

Looks like people haven't watched the Labour Files on Al Jazeera

[@jonsouth1545]

@@solidoperative And Atlee wasn't even good enough for Matty Sav these people who put ideological purity of the left over actually governing are the worst enemy of the party they are just Tory enablers. Corbyn could not win elections he did not win elections. I would rather have a "Labour lite" government over a Tory Government any day of the week the radical left would rather be ideologically pure and in opposition than make compromises and become a party of government not a party of protest.

[@the-smelly-hippie]

First guy nailed it straight away

[@DarrenH001]

Except when he glosses over the 2019 humiliation.

[@DarrenH001]

@Oxide Magicus Oh, come on. The priority now is to get the Tories out, for the good of this flailing, failing country - not which faction or schism should've won or who did what.. Let's all get on, get on board and get those thieving shits out of Downing Street!

[@Mayomayomayo-l8r]

@Oxide Magicus no it was as a result of a flimsy brexit stance and the fact that optically corbyn was easy to take down by the tabloid press. They could make up lies saying he was a czech spy and itd stick because of all the things that were true about him. The labour left isn't electable because put it simply the modern labour left is made up of people who are either insane or easy to portray as such. Tony Benn for example is an example of a socialist who was never easy to smudge in the paper because he could manage optics. Corbyn and the modern labour left arent capable of doing that and corbyn supporters will never ever accept that and so they'll always sabotage their own cause.

[@BagofDreams]

Could it be that Starmer has accepted being outwardly socialist won’t get labour elected and rather then being scared of the policies he understands that to implement them you have first get elected.

[@wofutokerati]

@@BagofDreams hear hear! If socialism was viable, Corbyn would have run in, smears or none. It isn’t. This is a very conservative country. All of this infighting and harking back to the days of the Seven Nation Army chanting will ensure that level down Liz and Kwasi-modo continue to wreak havoc on this country for years to come. Get Keir in and see what happens? It’s not going to be as bad as trickle down is it?

[@LeornianCyng]

Absolutely spot on. They basically sum up my views on Starmer, The Labour right and the current government.

[@bricknut11]

Stop arguing what flavour the ice cream is while there is none on the menu!! Left get behind Starmer and don’t ruin this for everyone. Or it’s Tories forever.

[@charaznable1131]

Why doesn't starmer move along then???

[@bricknut11]

@@charaznable1131 let’s have that discussion when the tories are out.

[@stephenchester7572]

When do the scousers actually get interviewed?

[@End-Result]

Ikr, they keep fucking doing this and it’s doing my nut in. I counted a maximum of 2 Scousers in this one - not to discount the other people spoken to, who made interesting contributions. It’s just totally dishonest to say “Scousers” when there are next to none in the video…

[@smokinasnivy]

Bunch of fucking wools init?

[@sboubalouta]

Haha

[@sp2722]

One!!

[@fingersflynn]

You've found some articulate, intelligent and socialist respondents - I don't think you had to look too hard. Starmer wants to be Blair. WE don't want another Blair.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Starmer and the Ermine Chasers don't want to change things.

[@Punchpuppet]

Perfect is the enemy of good

[@adamturowski3765]

Exactly. They want perfect, can't accept good, will get nothing.

[@collydub1987]

100%

[@chezceleste]

Labour is not just Starmer. If you don't vote Labour you will have tories forever. These people are the tories best weapon.

Then Labour should get rid of Starmer in rerecord to be electable.

[@chezceleste]

@ The tories will welcome your imput.

[@katiemiaana]

Liverpool has a radical left wing history what do you expect we stick to principles unlike southerners. Liverpool consistently voted Labour so your argument is redundant. Let’s just have a go at scousers though 😹

[@adamkennedy7297]

Labour is a joke

[@chezceleste]

@@katiemiaana They also have a persecution complex and don't realise that to have political power you have to have wide appeal to people you may not like...you can't just throw all your toys out the pram because you can't get exactly what you want...unless you want an violent revolution where you don't try to convince your opponents...you just kill them.

[@nicindiff]

Turned off as soon as Corbyn was mentioned. Get over it!!

[@heckinchonkyboi]

3:30 that dudes face when he hears socialist

[@tobyscustoms4813]

That was very funny thanks for pointing it out I missed it 😂😂

[@spinningdragontao]

Rock on Scousers ✊🏻 leading the way as often in the past

[@TomWheww]

Keirs conference speech today was fantastic, I feel all of these are from before this. I'd have loved to have a Labour government in 2017 & 2019 (But I'm not a lover of Corbyn). But people have to accept that he and the party failed. We have to realise there's no point in any of this if we don't get into power. Also, I'm a Scouser and I know many other Scousers that are now feeling better about where Labour is going.

[@defaultservices3483]

You do know the failure was the result of sabotage from within and there's documentary evidence of this?

[@saydvoncripps]

Oh gawd. Hmm. At the end of the day, Starmer is going yo be better than what we have now. Cos a bloody serial killer would be better than Truss and co. But will he usher in a new golden age where we all flit about in a classless utopia? Nah, not happening. So it's a case of what fo you want. Make things a luke warm ok or let the Tories burn the house down around our ears?

[@brainbane8550]

In 2019 liberals made it clear they'll take fascism over a left wing movement. Liberals can have the bed they made.

[@TwistyThreeFifty]

Or just don't for either

[@wikileaks4341]

'The labour files' was an amazing investigation film on KZbin. Enjoyed it very much.

[@RichO1701e]

It broke my heart and made me angry at the lying toryscum we have hiding in the LP

[@HiveFleetOni]

Liz Truss sends her thanks to this lot. There is a naïve belief that they can argue their way to a massive socialist majority in the UK. Not going to happen, the UK is on average centre-right economically and centre-left on health and infrastructure. The only path back to power for Labour is to appeal to the wider electorate, and then make the case for further socialist policies once in power (and GB Energy is a clever way of doing that).

[@eddiematthew495]

These scousers are unrepresentative of most normal scousers

[@bothi00]

Says you

[@adamkennedy7297]

They're not even scousers

[@yetidodger6650]

How can a Sir be leader of the Labour Party?

[@Jimbob7595]

Because he was granted a knighthood for his work...? It's not like he was born a Lord.

[@adamkennedy7297]

Hypocrisy of the left wing as per usual

[@anthonybillaustralia2182]

The guys being interviewed would make Labour UNELECTABLE.

[@bothi00]

why?

[@wofutokerati]

@@bothi00 because if Corbynism was in the least bit viable, it wouldn’t have ended in such a comprehensive defeat. This country has been largely conservative for over 50 years. You need to “ease in” to more left-leaning policies, otherwise the media will have another field day with commie broadband and we’ll be stuck with what we’ve got forever more.

[@osteoporosis7274]

People don’t like smug, effeminate, divisive leftists

[@pseudonayme7717]

@@bothi00 He means to Daily Mail readers.

[@SmithyD86]

Whilst I get what you're saying, if we all just gave up and went to the center ground, what happens to the left? How do progressive policies get passed?

[@barryrogers9862]

Ffs, as much i would have preferred JC to have been in charge it's didn't happen you've two chooses Labour or Tories, so get behind labour or we're all screwed

[@epassafonti3726]

Starmer the patron saint of goldsmith green

[@jake751]

Did you know his father was a toolmaker and his mother a nurse 🥱🥱🥱 every fkn speach he makes. He'd put a glass eye to sleep. Shame he forgot to say his father owned the company.

[@tarqscam8491]

Change Starmer. Maybe one of those fab women.

[@selinanisbett5482]

Cutting off their noses to spite their faces. For the sake of the suffering, such people NEED to :get on board" and pull together or it will be like a team of horses all pulling in different directions and derailing the coach.

[@theunifiedfield.]

I really enjoyed the wind effect on this. Thanks.

[@tartytube]

No such thing as a female scouser, obviously!

[@adamkennedy7297]

You don't want to hear them the voice is annoying

[@BaronVonGreenback1882]

Not many Scousers in the vid about Scousers.

[@Xplosive59]

As someone who's job is in and out of striking right now, I completely understand why Labour MP's aren't joining the picket line. The job at the moment is to seem like a viable option next elections to those who voted Conservative or other last time, that's why they have to be extremely careful about their public presence. I'm going to vote Labour next time, everyone I've talked to who is Striking is gonna be voting Labour next time, they already have almost unanimous support there if only out of a strong dislike of the Tories. Right now we need to be focusing on policies rather than gestures and hope that everyone votes tactically next election.

[@Ludd439]

No good convincing a bunch of Tory voters to vote for you if your gonna lose your base in the process

[@Xplosive59]

@@Ludd439 Where are these Labour voters going to be lost to though? Green? Lib Dem? It would just be a wasted vote in this first passed the post system and the Conservatives would just get in again. I like to believe that most people's political views in this country are pretty moderate and not everyone who voted Conservative last election are die hard Tories. Labour are the best choice to get the Tories out and this is the best chance we will have with how shambolic everything is going for them right now. Labour are supporting the Unions and public services through their policies, after they are in power then we can worry about MP's standing on picket lines.

[@col.hertford9855]

The Labour voter isn’t just these guys. You want power you need to be more centre left. Why the hell do you think the Libs moved right? New Labour moved into there space.

[@tomcolley9008]

“…the socialist policies that were successful in 2017”. Could the gentleman tell us what socialist policies were enacted after the 2017 general election? That’s right, 0, because Labour lost. Or indeed 2019? I wouldn’t say doing better than anticipated in 2017 was success.

[@sboubalouta]

I think you are misrepresenting what he said.

[@adamturowski3765]

@@sboubalouta No he's is not. The person in the interview is mixing up Labour members with general voting public. Basically Labour members may view and like what they want, but this won't get implemented by the government unless general voting public will agree.

[@Hindsighht]

Those socialist policies caused a growth in Labour membership, helping it become the largest political party in Europe. The mobilisation of these new members enabled Corbyn’s message to cut through to the public despite the onslaught from all angles of the main stream media. Go back and look at the polling, these policies had gained mainstream support. It was only because of the mainstream medias attacks and the undermining of Corbyn by Labour’s right that the 2017 election was lost. Can you imagine if the PLP had gathered around their (twice) democratically elected leader rather than trying to oust him in favour of Owen Whatshisface. We could be four years into a socialist government right now. But instead we find ourselves trying to satiate the British media and red wall voters by draping ourselves in union jacks, singing the national anthem and promising not to rock the boat. The question is Tom, are you happy to live in a world where the only way to get the Tories out of office, is to promise to maintain the status quo and not do anything to radical. I for one am sick of seeing establishment apologists such as yourself making the case that getting into power on a watered down platform is preferable to fighting for real change and winning the argument once and for all. It is nothin more than short sighted cowardice.

[@tomcolley9008]

@@Hindsighht Well considering you know nothing about me you've certainly produced quite a lot of conclusions based on a few questions I posed. I'm a coward and establishment apologist. I will not engage in such name calling with you as I simply don't know you and it's not very pleasant. Let's face it Corbyn isn't a politician he's a activist. That's lovely, until you have to make decisions. Truth be told, Corbyn's incompetence in holding a corrupt and nasty Conservative government to account through political policies that could win power is directly related to Kwarteng and his suicidal economics. If Jeremy was a bit more savvy maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. This isn't the only reason, but a factor. Change is incremental not radical and as unpalatable as it is to you, to do anything you need to hold power. I'm amazed by the number of people who've never experienced a revolution call for one. I'm a humanitarian aid worker with 15 years experience in war zones. I know what I'm talking about You talk about 2017 and mainstream acceptance of left wing policies. Wonderful. Can you talk about 2019, when Labour had the worst electoral performance since the 1930s? Tell me how many votes did Labour lost between 2017 and 2019? PS - you didn't answer my question. How many socialist polices were enacted?

[@yakm5385]

Lost because of a terrible voting system and one of the largest media smear campaigns

[@ince55ant]

political parties are only one aspect of a movement electoralism is the lowest form of political engagement.

[@mikeyoung8293]

"The left is just getting started" that's what we need

[@Meow-In-Trouble-Now]

Yep the left that have never got in power and were utterly defeated in the last election 🤔

[@adamkennedy7297]

😆😆😆😆

[@johnknight8152]

The better of two evils is still evil, what we need is a complete change in how politics works and who works in politics. That will never happen whilst the deluded still believe in one charlatan over another.

[@junglie]

yep.

[@natenae8635]

Lol evil and everyone else is evil

[@johnknight8152]

@@natenae8635 ? There are always diamonds in the ruff.

[@oneoflokis]

I know they're not impressed, even without watching this to the end!

[@NckBrktt]

Ask a scouser ? I'm a scouser and I'll be voting Labour. Who are these guys voting for ?

[@adamkennedy7297]

Like you always do 😆😆😆

[@JecaMasha]

03:29 the dude in the background 😆😆

[@timcomley5948]

To be fair what did you expect ffs

[@kama3422]

Please do not vote for Starmer or the Cons. They have similar policies.

[@kittykatja5961]

Time for a complete change in our system, out with the old in with the new, it not serving it's purpose for all our society and country, politics are completely corrupted.

[@cook1e2000robturnerxG]

the issue is, a labour party thats centre left in government is stronger than a left wing labour party that isnt

[@spidey3291]

Aren’t people bored with conversations about whether the leader is left enough? When it comes to the big picture and it’s still a country that tends to choose blue or red you need a leader who will appeal to the middle class english voters who base so much of their few seconds in a voting booth based on their perception of the leader and the mainstream medias portrayal of him or her. The passionate socialist discussions can occur once the party is in power and the legislation is being worded. As much as we hate it there’s a huge element of salesmanship in the election process. So you’ve got to appeal to a broad audience, especially financially comfortable floating voters who aren’t members of any party and go simply with a perception based on few sources of news. Once power is achieved then Kier will be in a position to listen to internal conversation a hell of a lot better. Especially if the kind of majority achieved in 1997 was repeated. Except, rather than leave the conversation after a labour victory assuming everything will magically work out people need to stay on board which thanks to the internet now being the norm is an obvious possibility.

[@jake751]

I'll vote for a person who will fight for the people. I'm not a brainwashed sheep who follows.

[@spidey3291]

I didn’t say you were? Did you think this was aimed at you personally?

[@jamie69murphy]

Watch Al Jazeera’s Labour Files. If these people win an election, they will never allow the left to wrestle control of the party… you can kiss goodbye to socialism.

[@shreddherring]

I sympathise with the corbyn supporters and understand the frustration of the party taking a more center position by contrast, but we have to read the room here. We need to de-polarise, and we need swing and right wing voters to come with us to start healing that divide if we really want to move forward. Getting the tories out is the current priority. Starting to move further left can come after that

[@bothi00]

Who's causing the polarisation ? The Blairites or the tripled united membership pre-2019

[@shreddherring]

@@bothi00 I'm talking about the polarisation in society, so I would say its been brexit, the tories, and the media that supported it all

[@bothi00]

@@shreddherring ok, what does mean then 'depolarise society', exactly ?

[@y_ffordd]

Personality over politics is exactly what destroys democracy, despite the fact that there is very little personality except for BJ, the media has a lot to answer for.

[@jakeommiles]

Nonsense

[@BaronVonGreenback1882]

Everyone should join a proper labour party, please all join, The Workers Party Of Britain, the clue is in the name.

[@raymondsawyer8626]

Left of centre is the position for labour too achieve government , Jeremy Corbyn is a highly princibled decent person , but you have too win over the more moderate electorate in the centre ground and you will not achieve that with far left candidates

[@blondecyborg1794]

Get behind Starmer. Labour supporters arguing amongst ourselves is just going to help the Tories. Starmer may not be perfect but he's alot better than Lizz Truss.

[@MahlerHolic1860]

Starmer is a snake. Ten pledges anyone?

[@mayamelagia]

Very one-sided street interview. Were they queuing for a Corbyn rally?

[@adamkennedy7297]

😆😆

[@texaspete33]

the left the left the left. keep fighting within the labour party and the tories will remain in power.

[@calderarecords]

We need a new system. Not a new Government.

[@mr.thegreat557]

Scousers??? Not one of them has got a Scouse accent. 😂 And the wool in the bar with the green coat on is deffo on the lemo and the fella behind him pulling all the mad kippers and that. 🤣

[@katiemiaana]

As a scouser you are talking shit we don’t all talk like Colleen Rooney

[@mickyfinn1737]

A Labour party MP should be at every picket line! Strikes are the only way working people get better conditions! Shame on the Party turning there back on the Unions and there members

[@faves2064]

And then they'd give the Daily Mail, Sun and Telegraph ammunition to tear down the party for weeks. Labour need to be as squeaky clean as they can be, they can't give them an inch.

[@myneighbourjohnturturro]

I don’t know who that outspoken dude is, but he articulated everything I’ve been thinking.

[@MikeStock88]

Can't be too radical immediately need to build into it

[@adamkennedy7297]

You've been radical for decades you delusional fool

[@alanfowler.]

A 'Sir' has no business leading the party that represents the workforce.

[@stewartrutherford1436]

"SIR" Kier Starmer, that, tells you everything about the Labour party we have now and not one that I will be voting for.

[@maybe-xh8il]

Yup oversee the worst grooming scandal ever and fail to prosecute savvile and gets a sir

[@MegaKapo12]

The Torries understand one thing you cannot change if you not inside win first.

[@blacktarroses3108]

Starmer with his Tory-lite approach falls well short of representing the working class, when you have a Labour party that refuses to stand with the Unions something is very wrong! Mick Lynch and Ed Dempsey have identified the struggles of the working class in 3 months, Starmer has had 2 years and failed miserably.

[@bit_crusherrr]

Most of these people aren't even scousers

[@ScottyDog345]

Labour Party today does not represent workers

[@shads_5045]

Listening to these people makes my heads hurt so much! You can’t fix this from within! People are freezing to death, and you want people to wait for Labour to change. Waste of bloody time! Start a new party and move forward

[@easycoding8255]

Perfection is the enemy of perfectly adequate. Vote Labour and get those awful Tories out. I can't afford this anymore.

[@bothi00]

They aren't 'perfectly adequate' though. Blair was 'perfectly' adequate. Wr don't need a labour party to the right where the Tories used to be just because they've moved very far to the right

[@MrTriptick]

1 scouser and some wools

[@Earnie8]

Five people does not a city make.

[@bluesteel228]

Literally 1 scouser in the video😅😅😅

[@Stuboy]

Need to change the voting system, not representative , it's Starmers version of Labour there in lies a problem

[@johnburrows3385]

Starmer needs to get elected first and foremost, then introduce PR. We need long term socialism not the usual cycle of Labour in Tories out Tories in Labour out.

[@ominous7271]

None of these people are scousers.

[@Destide]

Buy this lady a tascam

[@thomassmith3644]

Oh God.. I mean, I sympathise with the Labour Left but seriously, keep quiet and let Labour get into a position of power. Do not, do not wreck this opportunity and allow the Tories to somehow stick around.

[@bigbobbobby2398]

Watch AL Jazeera Labour Files scary times

[@_Wibble]

0:31 is everything wrong with the PLP

[@End-Result]

Here we go again. Whilst all of these contributions were very good, only about 2 of these interviewees were actual Scousers… why does JOE keep doing this?

[@pseudonayme7717]

They obviously think that anyone who lives in Liverpool is considered a scouser. Bit disappointing since we hope for better from new media, that's why we are here.

[@DamoMcDermott]

Any of you watched labour files

[@vanojoh3733]

I 💙 people from Liverpool.... and I'm not just saying that because I am a person from Liverpool. 😉

[@jake751]

🤣🤣🤣

[@adamkennedy7297]

You're a wool because none of those people was a scouser and that's coming from a real scouser

[@psyskeptic9979]

Check out Austrian economics, Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell.