Foundry Modo Is Dead!

[@JoshuaSimonson909]

Thanks Foundry, you killed the best paid DDC app, this is why I switched over to Blender....

[@albertopm96]

I feel sad but also glad that the suscription model isn't working out for them and hopefully for anyone. Nothing personal, just doing my part as the customer. So much talent lost in bad executive decisions...

[@ChantingInTheDark]

I have always HATED that business model. I actively avoid subscription based software where I can.

[@ChantingInTheDark]

This was inevitable the moment Luxology got into bed with a company funded by an investment group. They ALWAYS destroy good products.

[@vinny-g6s]

Zbrush will be next

[@rakeshmalik5385]

Yet the same company has a lock VFX that is beyond mind boggling, and it's partly due to nothing else being up to the task or even in the ballpark. I wonder why Foundry was able to keep Nuke on top of the game but flunked Modo?

[@EightNineOne]

@@rakeshmalik5385 Because Nuke make ALL the money.

[@buda3d2007]

Make it open source

[@udalovd]

Ha-haaa. Purchase extended 10 year license to be able to use it!

[@Xathian]

Foundry would rather smugly bury a product than ever contribute something positive to users

[@buda3d2007]

@Xathian I think keep it out there as a form of gateway software that enables users to get used to their tools, I think you have a point but it also reinforces bad open source stereotypes

[@philosoaper]

the only thing that is surprising to me is that it actually took this long to die

[@vi8799]

I hoped that they would at least try to revive the indie version, but no. Modo was a great modeling software, but it lagged behind in everything else. The price was too high.

[@DodiReynoso]

noob

[@cyber_robot889]

Yeap.

[@JamesSmith-fz7qk]

Modo was made by the guys who made LightWave 3D - Alan Hastings and Stuart Ferguson.

[@ChantingInTheDark]

Stuart is at Apple now. So is Brad, wonder what Allen is gonna do, probably retire, he's rich enough now.

[@jimpostier1113]

I loved Modo as it was my first 3D animation program. It was perpetual although I would purchase updates at 701, 801, 901… but the day they went to a subscription model was the day I first downloaded Blender. I pay a lot more to support Blender than any other software but I know that if something bad happens, Blender will still be there. Imagine being plumber and when you are in a tough situation (which happens to everyone at some point) all of your tools suddenly disappear.

[@alcomando]

Modo was awesome! Way ahead of it's time. It was simple, stable and fast. After a certain point it became too complex and unstable for me and had to abandon it. It's a shame

[@sidneywilson-nai4253]

same here

[@Ttiheuns31]

Modo was my first love, i start it after quit the boring 3ds max, a really sad news.

[@Mkaltered]

Blender is great

[@Ttiheuns31]

@user-xw1xz3xj9v yes it is my actual love ❤️

[@benjaminjoeBF3]

@@Mkaltered Blender is trash, an incoherent mess.

[@fruitt1053]

I'm an amateur and can't afford to spend that much on a hobby tool. So when MODO became a subscription model, I switched my work environment to Blender. Still, I think MODO was a good tool. I'm sad about this.

[@cornerofthemoon]

I'm surprised Lightwave is still around.

[@Alpha17x]

Every time I hear about lightwave I get shocked, I haven't used lightwave for... 20+ years.

[@hugosculptslive]

Same here.

[@carlomacchiavello]

Living dead, told from lw user from 1991, and the same for modo, not modern approach on development on both software.

[@kuichib]

For real! I've tried getting into lightwave about 10 different times over 16 years, but it's workflow never bit me.

[@PackingProtons]

we first started learning lightwave at the 'school' I Went to in 99. then we switched to max. I figured out max faster. but softimage is my only love. I have not found anything like it since. and I can't figure out blender.

[@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens]

They should make it OPEN SOURCE ... like Blender.

[@GerhardAEUhlhorn]

Modo is actually great! I worked with it for many years. Unfortunately, Modo was full of bugs. The foundry never fixed most of the serious bugs. Many really serious bugs existed for many years and made working with it practically impossible.

[@iajhy]

Look at the price, no way! No wonder this is happening. That subscription model sucks! I switched recently to 3DCoat, the price is very reasonable and they offer lots of plans, even "rent to own". What companies such as Adobe, Autodesk, and Foundry have in common? They suck their clients, acquire things, and kill those things. Happened with Softimage, Mischief, and now Modo. Those people who run the businesses really suck at this. Shameful.

[@rakeshmalik5385]

The most reasonable theory I've heard for Clarisse's demise is Solaris. And Katana -- which I'm finding is another VFX industry mainstay; there are quite a few VFX houses in Vancouver that use Katana for lighting + rendering. There are however some that are adopting Solaris, and an ILM rep told me that ILM is migrating to Houdini. Isotropix was working an enterprise level node-based scene building + rendering system just before it vanished. I learned shortly thereafter from a VFX artist that one of the bigger Isotropix clients had recently made the switch from Clarisse to Solaris, both because Solaris did the same thing but within the unlimited power of the Houdini environment, but also with the flexibility of Hydra. Throw Redshift on top of Hydra and you have the speed of Clarisse but inside Solaris (or Katana), but you can also switch out to Arnold for things that Redshift doesn't do well, which isn't possible Clarisse. Ergo, RIP Clarisse. Hence the theory that Solaris and Katana killed Clarisse.

[@rickarroyo]

I was never a modeler but Modo was the only one I could make something decent from. I think they should donate the source code

[@sammyjenkin]

Never got around to checking Modo out.. would be sweet if they did end up going open source with it.

[@jimpostier1113]

Don’t hold your breath. Investment companies like this wouldn’t rescue a kitten unless there was a way to monetize it.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

They have an EOL license that will last for the next 10 years

[@akuunreach]

@@KRGraphicsCG Yep, pay us more, and we'll be generous enough to let you use this dead product for the next decade.

[@nonyabuiz2023]

Foundry are fools

[@PeterEriksson3D]

Sad to hear. Have been using Modo almost daily since 2005. I can compare the modeling tools to Cinema 4D and Blender and they are lightyears away still. Imho.

[@penpcm]

Should be made open source like Blender.

[@ki0n969]

People had no idea how powerfull MODO batch rendering system was. I'll be using this till the day I Quit being a 3D Artist because its so powerfull I can earn ten times more by spending a tenth of my time doing repetitive tasks.. I would maybe have moved to Blender sooner if there was no render groups in modo that allowed for extreme batch renderings.. but as long as that feature is solely present in MODO, I wont uninstall it ever.

[@mahefarakotobe1191]

I started 3d with modo... this makes me a bit sad...

[@OverbiteGames]

It had such a good retopo tool and the modeling plane was great and the UX was superb. Compared to everything else back in 2015 when I was using it it was incredible. But I had no money so I just didn't 3D model for 4 years instead ^-^

[@OverbiteGames]

If they'd have gone with a very cheap "lmao you've literally made no money doing this?" version - preferably outright free.. probably could have stifled the growth of Blender - their main competitor imo. Now? Now I'm just like "cool, with that dead Blender will get some modo tools"

[@hugosculptslive]

Same here.

[@xXCrimsonWolfXx752]

Started with 3DS Max, but discovered MODO when 701 released. It was nothing but fun to use. Then when Mesh Fusion came out the next release it was mind-blowing. It had such an amazing boolean and material stack system too.

[@stevenray8737]

Sorry to hear, guys. Never a user of Modo but been to this rodeo years ago with TrueSpace, when Microsoft bought Caligari and then killed it off. Feels like a kick in the nuts.

[@RealFableFox]

I hear you. what sad is that Microsoft made it free first. As a 3rd worlder, I was like - yay! free 3d software.

[@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens]

TrueSpace. Haven't heard that name in a long time. Played around with it a little, many years ago.

[@mariuszzwolak_]

Very first release after it was acquired by Foundry had problems, as usual corporate world at work

[@demianpelos]

Following the steps of lightwave ??? No! Well lightwave looks is trying to come back

[@Alpha17x]

Paint3D was born from the demise of Caligari's TrueSpace software. So I feel an odd satisfaction, because the thing that took down what I liked, also went down.

[@bitsurface5654]

So this shows again the main problem of proprietary software, they cannot make the code publicly available to the community. This could be a game changer, but then they have to establish another way of business around of Modo.

[@cyber_robot889]

Sorry to hear about Modo - it was good and professional tool but it was inevitably.

[@imamaldekian4383]

Any chance they will discount their subscription license or have a legacy license? I have doubts on them ever open sourcing it.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

They an EOL license that lasts for the next 10 years. I'm a long time Modo user and I will be taking advantage of this

[@EightNineOne]

Open source will not happen. It has a free 10 year perpetual license though which I think anyone can download

[@FlameForgedSoul]

Shoutout to Groboto, which gave us MeshFusion.

[@lega_xyz]

Why not release it open source for the community to develop it instead of killing it?

[@DavidBoura]

Very sad but understandable. RIP Modo ; (

[@mmmuck]

Wonder what is happening with Mari? So many places are using substance including vfx

[@iajhy]

Actually, I was using Mari for a long time, but I switched recently to 3DCoat. It's really awesome! Mari optimization just stopped to evolve, always laggy. They focus too much on managerial aspects and forget usability. Till today, I don't get why they created a node system in Mari. And I love composite with nodes, but with a 3D painting software, it seems totally inadequate. I never considered SBP, Adobe crappy subscription model, no way. That's why 3DCoat was a great choice for me: a permanent license with affordable prices.

[@rakeshmalik5385]

I'm also wondering if the new LightWave will be able to carve out a new niche under its new company, because Modo is competing with Maya and Houdini... but at the same time, even Cinema4D has barely managed to make a dent in the VFX industry, and that didn't have to go through the NewTek -> Luxology kerfuffle. What went wrong?

[@TimothyHay-l5c]

real shame i used to use it and it was good, but then blender just became a better option and i just pay a reasonable price depending on my earnings.

[@ahmedshakib3883]

If you are a modo fan all is not lost , you can use blender and they have a modo theme , I know it wont help but Blender is free .

[@invisiblevfx]

Katana will be dead soon

[@cgbintang]

Gaffer will replace it soon I think

[@invisiblevfx]

@ that and Houdini

[@LewisRowe-id6kr]

Sad to hear this about Modo. I think back to the first time seeing amazing Modo artists like Gelmi and Tim Cooper. Their renders were in a different league. Looked years ahead. ..and still going today of course. So I'm curious what they will do about this news.

[@strukovets]

Indeed, I will have to learn how to use a blender...

[@amigarulez]

You dont. There are better alternatives.

[@BrentonWoods774]

Blender killed the Modo star

[@florianschmoldt8659]

It's sad but at least honest and people know what to expect. Other than many Autodesk tools that are just basically dead and might or probably not get an update.

[@GaryChike]

Remember when Autodesk killed Softimage|3D?

[@ABentPaperclip]

i saw the writing on the wall back in 2018, which is when i jumped ship to Blender

[@TheKevphil]

You talk about it going OpenSource. Any chance someone else might buy it up and develop it?

[@EightNineOne]

Slim to none.

[@RicardoSantos-cu2rs]

Atleast it was really the better Lightwave. Lightwave while very stong software,it just dosnt want\can change while modo developers did what had to be done. Anyways,Mark my words, Lightwave is Next. Do Somebody know if the INDIE Version is affected or If one can use that code to get 17 full ?

[@pAULEE_wORLi]

modo to model, lightwave to animate. what to do now :/

[@pAULEE_wORLi]

really good modeler. best modeler .RIP.

[@icedriver2207]

I've used 3ds Max, Maya, when I had the chance I bought Modo. I have a current license and this makes me so sad.

[@6gradosproducciones]

They're making it open source, right? right?

[@uhtubeyou]

I didn't know they had other products 🤔

[@rickarroyo]

Nuke has always been the Foundry's flagship product

[@triem23]

Oh, well. At least there was a warning ahead of time the software was dead, unlike so many others that quietly fade away.

[@GnomesPhone]

theres dozens of us that are shattered

[@Z-add]

Yes only dozens

[@Ab19647]

Lol

[@Ab19647]

Testament to Foundry’s mismanagement of Modo, not investing in it and not keeping up with the industry, slowly loosing its user base to those who were.

[@demianpelos]

Once they bought it , and once Brad left... I saw how the amount of new features move from a lot and crazy amazing stuff to.. look we have a new crappy feature that no one care and fixed some bugs enjoy the new release.. :(. Till today is an amazing!!! Modeling software

[@phm6834]

They should make it open source

[@TheGuardianofAzarath]

Why not just do what e-on did for Vue and PF, and just release a non-node locked version that doesn't need a license? I have modo 10 (one of the last perpetual versions) , i'm not gonna upgrade. Wait...Adobe killed PS's 3d features? well shit, I remember when they first started to bring those in with CS3 18 years ago.

[@Sodomantis]

Soon, I will tell my AI assistant to model a monster using free copy of Modo.

[@123ultrapromax]

Can Modo be cracked?

[@DodiReynoso]

i tried the latest modo its kinda boring

[@demianpelos]

Great and amazing modeler, super easy render. Horrible for rigging, animation or affects :(

[@benjaminjoeBF3]

with Modo dead there is no good sleek, easy to learn, elegant, powerful poly modelling software out there. And no, Blender is not it.

[@HiredGunGames]

I agree. Allowing this software to be open source would greatly increase its value. 3rd party devs would make plugins and kits to grow the softwares existence and manageable license terms could ensure a steady profit margin from the software… it’s better than being completely dead… blender was dead for a few years until their massive reinventing and allowing more people to develope tools the community needed. As it stands now, no one is willing to pay thousands of dollars to create tools they need. They’d rather pay nothing for the software and then a small fee to sell plugins for the software. Greed can only get you so far in today’s economy. It’s unfortunate that modo came to this conclusion as their software really was the best for hard surface but in todays market with ai people need more than that. They needed better curve modeling tools and control over curves and guides. They needed a faster updated renderer. Animation tools. Hell if foundry ever found themselves wondering what to do next, look at where people are struggling the most… it’s be great to finally have a tool for creating full game ready hair. Focus on curve tools and guide tools and such.

[@mmmuck]

Open source it

[@arocomisgamusclademork1603]

Just Shareholders and Investment are just gambling business and say stock price never point creativity product image business

[@DodiReynoso]

Maybe adobe can buy it and rename it to Modobe

[@imamaldekian4383]

Lol

[@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens]

If Adobe ever bought it, they'll just simply play around with it for a bit, destroy it, then take the scraps and put them in other software - like Substance 3D Modeler.

[@Mr_Tea_Rexx]

Shows that their sub model just didnt work

[@SuperHenso]

I always though that Modo was a commercial pro version of Blender

[@gametnt_fun]

Just copy UI at 2.5 ver

[@yossarian7617]

What's the point of developing Modo anyways? You can't improve on perfection.

[@s.patterson5698]

I think the impending unleashing of AI tools is accelerating the death of these 3D modeling tools.

[@adamiwackowski4759]

Not necessarily. AI isn't good enough yet for precise modeling. Blender, Plasticity and eventually MOI took the market.

[@zedeon6299]

It's just blender become more popular, why would you want spend hundred of dollar for 3d modeling when you can get the same thing for free?

[@EightNineOne]

AI had literally nothing to do with it.

[@andklv2]

never believed in it

[@federrr7]

it as obvious coming. The tool is really expensive and too little tutorials over there. Blender is a bigger alternative

[@amigarulez]

In 10 years of modo free licence, it will still be better modeling app than blender

[@ZsoltVajda]

trump winning and modo quits, fuck me running

[@wonkaytry]

LOL THANK GOD

[@whootoo1117]

Let C4D, MAYA, MODO ask "blender developers for refund" for their capitalist nonsense🤣