ASL The Czerniakov Bridgehead. 1 - Messing with the 2nd most complicated borad war game.

[@Jezza_One]

Before anyone asks IMO the most complicated board war game is Federation and Empire.

[@ezzler]

That’s true

[@igycrctl]

Rules-wise, I don’t think so, but managing the strategy is definitely high complexity.

[@Jezza_One]

@@igycrctl My Federation and Empire rules folder is thicker than the ASL one. Especially if you ignore Section H.

[@blueTanso]

Stick with it - it's a beautiful game!

[@jeffrsonk]

I just finished playing this last night. Yes, that canal is more difficult to cross than it seems! This is a really fun scenario. Don't worry too much about rules mistakes, we all make tons of them.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

You’ve just got to dive in and Spend time looking up rules. It’s part of it. I’ve played solo by just going through the sequence of play. We’re here to help, ask questions. Full asl has some pretty cool things. Yeah, about 100-150 ASLSK scenarios SK1 has US, Soviet, and German

[@Jezza_One]

@@WARdROBEPlaysWWII I had no idea there were thst many ASLSK scenarios.

[@coinneachmacraibeart7891]

Wonder what it would be like using that map for a Panzer Game System game.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

Also, don’t be discouraged by rules comments. We ASLers can be a bit excited to share rules notes. Take em or leave them and have a great time.

[@Jezza_One]

@@WARdROBEPlaysWWII I am just playing it as I learn it. I am not bothered how many errors I make at the moment.

[@igycrctl]

Rules errors are inevitable. I play with people who have been playing since before ASL became Advanced. They make mistakes all the time.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

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[@igycrctl]

So… what is the most complicated game in your opinion? If not ASL, maybe SFB or F&E or something else?

[@Jezza_One]

@@igycrctl F&E

[@igycrctl]

@@Jezza_One so you stated. I was hoping for a response from creator of the video.

[@Jezza_One]

@@igycrctlIts my video. I am Jezza One. I have just changed my handle apologies for any confusion. I will always respond to any posts.

[@igycrctl]

@@Jezza_One F&E certainly is complicated. Recently I played again for the first time since the early 90s. We played “The Wind” with just the base rules. Fun, but I’m more of an SFB guy. I prefer tactical to strategic. And the spreadsheets! Oh, the spreadsheets! For economics and for builds. I actually think a simpler spreadsheet would be better. When I played in the 90s we used the paper Econ form.

[@igycrctl]

Learning Starter Kit isn’t a waste of time because most of the rules are the same. Just don’t get into the mind set of “I must master SK before tackling ASL”. Play SK1 (infantry) and then go to full ASL.

[@Jezza_One]

@@igycrctl Sounds sensible to me.

[@kingsgambit7734]

Third Reich has to be in the conversation

[@Jezza_One]

@@kingsgambit7734 Third Reich notreally but World at War definately. I would put that one at number four mainly because of the very complex rules which are constantly changing.

[@MarkNiceyard]

Maybe at an unsecure stage of rules knowledge you should try some easier scenarios first. Knowing ASL fully is kind of comparable to the effort of acquiring a good scientific university grade. :D

[@Jezza_One]

@@MarkNiceyard It certainly is a learning cliff. I have said I will try ASLSK as part of my roam through tactical games.

[@MarkNiceyard]

@@Jezza_One Yeah, have fun. The vid was pretty cool. I even would have loved to see you rambling more about tactical stuff like that canal crossing etc. You sound nice and the videography is okay, too.