ASML's crisis: Russia's chip tools rival EUV

[@Nobilangelo]

It's amazing what can be done by disassembling old Western washing-machines. 🤣 And antique i-shovels.

[@amigo2x]

Just dishwasher

[@MASMIWA]

Never under estimate your enemy, the saying goes. You can bet if real, Russia will work with China to mechanize and manufacture this process to its full realization. And if so, Russia will have turned the tables on the west. While the US wasn't looking, Russia has surprised the world and technically, turned the tables on the US. We know that both were working on x-ray light sources and now we are wondering if that is part of this revelation? Russia graduates as many STEM students as the US with less than half the population. Russia has always been strong in the theoretical sciences, math, and physics. We saw that at play when Russia produced Sputnik and led the space race for some time. We are seeing Russia's technology skills in their development of military weaponry. Russia was first with hypersonic missiles, developed advanced drones, succeeded in electronic warfare, and rapid adaption to the needs of war as exhibited by their ability to meet war conditions in Ukraine. Russia has also developed a nuclear cruise missile that can fly anywhere in the world and it has a nuclear torpedo said capable of causing tsunami waves that would drown coastal cities, it's nuclear submarines are world class. Remember also that the International Space Station owes its success to Russia. Russian rocket engines propelled all of the space station modules into orbit and the control module was of Russian design. Russian fighter jets and jet engines are world class and it has the world's only nuclear icebreakers. One wonders if some of these advances, like the semiconductor sector are subjects of discussion with Putin's visit to China's Xi Jinping today. Biden's administration must truly be worried now that their sanctions and restrictions may be for naught.

[@milekragulj325]

Is it Russian propagenda or refrigerator moment. We will see it.

[@jameslum8822]

Putin the as brought the entire Russian govt cabinet along to meet his Chinese counterpart. That is unheard of. Lots of matters are being discuss and finalize.

[@alexandervt641]

Poor ASML has a market capitalization of $300 billion - more than all Gazprom, Rosneft, and Rostec together. Whole Russian „semiconductor“ market in 2023 is estimated at about $2-3 billion: ten times less than that of ASML. Russia is returning into the middle age.

[@pd4954]

@@alexandervt641 I guess you haven't visited places like Uk recently? They are returning to the "middle ages"look at the streets of London. Cratering manufacturing both there and Germany. Multipolar world emerging, wirh last desperate gasps at US hegemony and it's sanctions and being drained by its support of Genocidal Israel.

[@alexandervt641]

@@pd4954 Compared to Russia, UK is a paradise. Instead of reforms, Putins regime opted for war. Russia must get rid of current regime, otherwise it will fall apart like the SU.

[@back2basics597]

Russia is re-industrializing so rapidly it's breathtaking to watch in real time. The extreme depth of Russian technological capability and know how is equally exciting. I guess we have the hubris and stupidity of the west to thank for Russia's resurgence and China's industrial supremacy. Slava Rossiya and may China be a better steward of it's superpower status.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Sanctions. Stupid people think you can sanction the large technological block that is Russia/China - but all the sanctions do it make it celar they must stand independent. Add India to the mix and a lot of other smaller countries and - you get a disaster in the making. But hey, Russia stands isolated and is just "a gas station masquerading as a country". 4000 years ago, Sun Tsu in "The Art of War" wrote - know your enemy better than yourself and you do not have to fear the outcome of a thousand battles. Well, the west prefers not to know their enemy, so battles get lost. Plenty of them.

[@petergplus6667]

Wise words

[@alexhongchoon8175]

if true ,it would be great

[@leunam3434]

My new iPad has an m4 chip and I don’t experience a dramatic increase in performance. Weapons systems can function with ordinary chips and at a lower cost. The human mind is very creative and will find ways around obstacles.

[@mujur9101]

Dude, the speed race of Mobile Chip is entering saturation period. Just like PC Chips. As reguler user, we cannot notice the different anymore. 😁😆😅🤫

[@huckleberryfinn6578]

@@mujur9101 Just run Ollama 70b LLM and you will clearly see the difference.

[@YekiniAbdulRaimi-ml2hc]

They should start the production first

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Can you provide the link to the sources? Say St. Petersburg reserch group's news stated in the video?

[@Teney1994]

They have indeed produced a lithography plant (not yet capable of mass semi-conductior production, as of 1 month ago) but it's at 350nm. That is at the level of year 2000 (earliest was 1996 or 97). They can however produce 65nm independently (as far as I know) at the minimum if we exclude lithography. There is some use to 350nm lithography, but their own semi-conductior plants don't use that kind of range, they start at 250nm and below. If you want a source, just Google "Russia 350nm lithography" and you'll get many sources, it's the rosatom research group. They might really get to a point where they will be able to be independent, but even the goal of 14nm chips until 2030 seems to be far stretched, as far as I've read. As for lithography, they want to get to 65nm until 2027, which is wild considering they have just produced 350nm.

[@bmc868]

A lot of countries are fed up to be dependent on U.S.

[@david15960]

Personally I don't know why anyone is surprised.

[@MrDomingo55]

Even if there is research that may achieve comparable results, that is not the same thing as having commercially viable lithography machines. Even if top commercial results are achieved, there is no way to duplicate what TSMC does at cost effective level. End result would be more expensive chips that can only be paid for by having captive home market.

[@peterlim1972]

Russia will not develop chip making machines alone. I say chip making machines and not EUV because there must be other ways of creating chip making machines that is not EUV. Russia and China not only enjoys a military relationship but also a joint development one. Russia with China can co-operate and innovate other forms of chips making machines.

[@ntal5859]

China is already making 3nm in bulk,,, they use UV quad exposes self alignment.

[@Dollarrmb-pk6ub]

Russia need to build up their supply chains to support . Thus at least 10 years is needed

[@ntal5859]

Russia is its own supply chain... the only nation in the world that can build fighter planes from it own supplies. ie they have all the materials and factories to do it... the west does not have a supply chain, hence the lack of products in most suppliers... I couldn't get have most my ics from my usual suppliers like Digikey.. but China had them So if China had them so does Russia.

[@tommymichalski9989]

while theoretically it would be possible for Russia to develop advanced semiconductor technology, the practical, economic, and geopolitical barriers make it highly unlikely that they could compete on the same level as established players like ASML. The semiconductor industry's reliance on trusted, proven technology, along with stringent regulatory controls and the strategic importance of this sector, means that established dynamics are unlikely to change significantly in the near future. So put another 20 years on top before any major company is going to consider Russia as a reliable partner.

[@zomplak]

this is interesting, and i do hope in the future celebration and parade shift from showing weapon to showing advance tool like TBM, heavy duty crane and this litho machine that build domestically

[@jeffreyf6960]

7 months ago same report on youtube. So still no progress.

[@tonyp2865]

Chip powered shovels say you're wrong.

[@petersmangalisongoma2013]

It would be really nice if Russia did that, but it's still hard to believe for now

[@fredfrond6148]

Russian physicists are great at theoretical work. Chinese physicists and engineers are great at applications. US be concerned at bulling them both.

[@ntal5859]

Why ??? Russia built an Atom bomb just 2 years after the west. This is no different, also their fighter planes have way higher performance then most of the western planes. They clearly have the intellect and ability.

[@dennisrichards7994]

@@ntal5859 Nope ! the last part of your comment is totally false , the yanks don't have anything that matches the top three Russian aircraft , NOTHING !!!

[@mstephenjoy]

Considering the number of innovations made in this technology through serendipity Russia's approach is very intelligent as it can easily lead to new innovations that the west will have difficulty duplicating. I think Russia and China could diverge technologically from the west thereby and begin creating incompatible technologies. There is a tendency to forget how new these technologies really are. If any country were to begin the process of innovation again (that is to say discovering instead of refining) the results could be spectacular.

[@tommymichalski9989]

Try again plz. Even if Russia could ever produce the same quality as ASML or let say even better. Those machines cost 350.000.000 euro. The customers of those machines are not some average Joe's. Intel, Nvidia, Samsung or TSMC they never going to buy some Russian machine. Russia has no chance besides producing some chips for their domestic market or arms industry. Don't forget that the EU in a way controles the world. So if they say we don't want any Russian/Chinese chips in our infrastructure (like with Huawei network infrastructure) the rest of the world follows (like with mandatory usb C chargers). So your point is only valid in free market space. Remember those machines are big printers, and the prints are not some cheap papers. But papers with on average R&D costs of 15 billion. So additional 40 times the price of the machine to spit some high end chips out. And about 40 years later when people start to forget how unreliable partner Russia is.

[@camio20]

This channel enables me to know more of why China is unstoppable...Thanks for this Channel Creator! I have now a much more broader idea of shiftings in the tech world...must support Russia and China for this❤

[@edmundm6388]

Is not that simple. Lithography machine are complicated technologies. Beside Russia is far behind china in EUV tools.

[@musdef15]

The video just said that they don't use EUV to built their chips.🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@VictorLopez-od8jw]

It's difficult to think Russia would to be able overcome that occident took decades to build EUV machine !!!

[@SewTubular]

Russia is doing things differently, so I would not be surprised if they match the West in CHIP making in the next couple of years, and I expect they will share their discoveries with China. ( there must be some reason why China, Iran, North Korea all suddenly have hypersonic missiles )

[@vogue43]

Video title debunked by video's content. garbage/10.

[@lokesh303101]

Yes!

[@maonarin6038]

No any Russian Semiconductor equipment company in this world exists bro!

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵

[@peterlim1972]

That's the problem with people who underestimate others. NATO was so sure and totally confident that Russia economy will collapse under their sanctions and no war needs to be fought. A war happened and NATO was so confident that NATO 'Game Changing Weapons' will make them win their proxy war. Tell me now who is suffering?

[@peterlim1972]

Even without those machines, tell me now whether Russia is collapsing? Who is winning the war?

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@peterlim1972 well articulated. NATO are full of themselves; but when it comes to their cutting edge tech performance, it always comes second best to Russia's. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kaiulani3044]

So what's the new Russian breakthrough? Needs more meat and less fluff.

[@Dollarrmb-pk6ub]

Billions in funding will be needed. At least 10 years is required

[@ThomasTomiczek]

As demonstrated by China - NO. They already are just a generation behind.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

According to America you're correct; but realistically you're are so far away from the truth

[@ntal5859]

Only in the west do you need billions because of the red tape.

[@tonythai5991]

Russia uses shovels in Ukraine war how can they produce such things?

[@tonyp2865]

Shovels are chip powered.

[@remix-yy1hs]

High tech shovels

[@tommymichalski9989]

They might succeed to produce a 500mhz cpu. Perfect for shovels and Tetris 3d

[@moinyp]

Please show us the amazing RUSSIAN MACHINES! You’re only showing us the ASML machines, which we all have already seen and heard about them.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

Nothing asml there. Euv science and technology isn't exclusive to a few

[@moinyp]

@@preachingflamesthepreacher3894 All the images shown in this video are of ASML machines. Please show us images of the Russian Machines.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@moinyp nothing asml there.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@moinyp nothing is asml there - you're just assuming it's asml stuff. No, it's not

[@moinyp]

@@preachingflamesthepreacher3894 Man, what are you talking about? The machine shown right at the very start of the video has got the ASML brand WRITTEN on it!! Check and see for yourself!

[@moinyp]

Is this a lampoon channel?

[@K1VV1939]

Thank you Revel Discovery ... Go Russia Go ! from New Zealand ... please excuse real Kiwis this is a 5 eyes thing

[@iOANHRISTOSSTEF]

ON 1.1.2026::: ALL GLASS BREAKS!

[@calvinang1]

Wow. Go Russia 👍🏻

[@moinyp]

Take it easy! It’s just a joke.. 😅

[@EnergyTRE]

😂

[@EnergyTRE]

The laugh was to this narrator

[@musdef15]

Maths and science trump politics all day.

[@JoeyRay-fz1qe]

In time Russia will succeed and I'm not talking about decades but in a few years at most!

[@MrGujesgujes]

After rusia gobbled by china?