Asmongold Now Attacked For "Harassing" Blizzard Devs

After Asmongold said that the World of Warcraft community is trash and also fired back to some Blizzard developers insulting him (even before the Blizzard lawsuit was made public); there's been quite a lot of people that have tried to attack him on Twitter and paint him as one of the main cause of the existing toxicity in the WoW's community. Is this the reason so many people are quitting WoW? Asmongold discusses and responds to these attacks...
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#Asmongold

[@Andrew-bf2oj]

Asmongold: Fix your product. Blizzard: Stop harassing us, we're busy harassing our female co-workers.

[@skivvy3565]

They realized if they tried to stop harassment in game it’d be hypocritical to what they do at work in real life

[@briammen]

😬

[@cybil5045]

>69 likes right now. Wow, nice lol

[@bladefeather2293]

Yep :v

[@raggo1955]

No point beating a dead horse that is wow. Blizzard devs are immature and it shows with their games.

[@-Toon-]

This is the most communication we've gotten from devs in years lol

[@edattacks]

Crazy right?

[@readmore5888]

HAHA

[@jdoe4983]

It's only when you criticize their shit game. Fuck them, if you haven't already quit you need to do so. Show these idiots who's boss.

[@AlchemicSoul]

It really is. I'd imagine its due to them having nowhere to run. Literally every WoW outlet on the internet is burning down.

[@MattWeismiller1994]

I've quit wow more than 10 times since wod and every since then I've always kept in contact with wow news through Asmongold. I'm glad to see he's the new Soda for years now.

[@LotharinCW]

She used "paper-thin-skin" twice in a single rant. $20 says someone used the term against her recently, and it annoyed her so much she decided to start using it herself.

[@imatooltoo]

shit my mother would do to me all the time. would win countless arguments with her, and every time i won with something, she'd try to use it right back at me next time.

[@ComfortableTool86]

What's her name?

[@morganzoey]

@@ComfortableTool86 steve

[@sirprize5191]

She seemed overly concerned with attacking his "fragility." I think she was probably sexist in some subconscious level. The type to focus their attacks on your identity or vulnerability when triggered. Shit person. Def seems to have had issues with the things she accuses others of.

[@rosssivertson6339]

The hair color explains it all.

[@gabea.458]

Mike Tyson: "Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”

[@connorduncanson673]

Lol ok bud

[@joshfish7385]

“I’m not going to high road anybody.. if you take the low road, I’ll meet you there” I love this .. I truly love this!

[@aristoddle8932]

Extremely Texan 100% the best

[@marystone860]

@@aristoddle8932 DAMN RIGHT!

[@subwayslut]

Best quote I’ve heard in a long time.

[@claudetteinabush2881]

10/10 quote

[@vatter099]

"I'm not gonna take the high road" then proceeds to name off all the charities they donate to blah blah blah 😂

[@SoCloseToToast]

The word "toxic" is really getting thrown around a lot these days. I never thought Asmon as someone that is toxic. If he's being an asshole most people that understand social cues knows he's playing it up for the stream As far as the critique he's giving Blizzard it seems they are the ones throwing "toxic" around a whole lot. I don't know, I just don't see a world where Blizzard are right in this situation.

[@braydensearle]

Tawksic is the new favorite buzzword.

[@TheRealHanzan]

Its interesting becouse i have a feeling asmon gets looked at differently just becouse of his excessive use of swear-words and his way of not beating around the bush. True, heartfelt honesty said with passion is rare these days. And when you mix in " fuck" "dick" and so on with that passion, suddenly people dont take you serious anymore.... This lady telling her followers on an open platform that asmon can to fuck himself. Then it tells me not only has asmon struck a nerve, but she is also frustrated about it. I belive its becouse asmon is right with his criticism and she can't defend that. So she turns personal hate. Low low low standards and she should be punished by blizzard for hurting their players like this while employed by blizz (which is also directly hurting the brand) Sure tells me alot about her in the end...

[@jmoa5758]

Works at a company for yeeears that is sexually harassing women but calls a streamer toxic lolol

[@maybecole]

funny seeing you here toast. welcome back

[@tycoonMOBevolve]

Toxic means you hurt they’re fefes

[@smithical100]

"Social media made y'all way to comfortable with disrespecting people without getting punched in the face for it ".- Mike Tyson.

[@1skorn]

Everybody is keyboard arm-chair warrior behind the screen but if you meet them face to face thats a different story

[@forrestharper609]

Yes SIR!

[@shandorunia]

So true and it happens all the time.

[@munchyy592]

So fking true, and if by some chance you meet them in person they will either call cops on you (after they've said horrible things over social media) or pull a gun.

[@swann9147]

He's right. Asmon purely critiques the game and the company. Countering that critique is fair, but attacking him personally shows profound weakness of character.

[@darkdeath5550]

I believe the idea that, once you run out of valid criticisms to make and instead rely on brute force and personal attacks, then you have already lost, and given up any pretext of being rational, therefore I no longer must abide by the arbitrary rules you set up and then broke.

[@MinistryofOtaku]

"Asmongold Now Attacked For Being Critical of Blizzard Devs for Not Fixing their Game's Problems"

[@phateeals]

Lmao as if the game is the only thing that has problems

[@ianfitzgerald6286]

@@phateeals sad but fair point 😑

[@hadenohhh]

Blizzard: Asmon isn't a good guy and he can't take criticism. Also Blizzard: We pass around nudes of a dead employee and it's the community's fault for all of our games being trash.

[@MrOg99]

Yes

[@anthonyharding7249]

@@BigOleMatty Yup

[@hadenohhh]

@@BigOleMatty Yeah it's in the claims of the lawsuit.

[@maxmagnus377]

@@BigOleMatty She wasn't dead at the time, though most likely it was a large contributor to driving her to a point where she committed suicide. Hard to say which is worse. EDIT: It also wasn't the entirety of blizzard passing them round of course, but a group of employees.

[@ghfryw]

yep

[@hayvan89ykt]

When Sylvanas said that world is a prison, and she will set us free, no one realised that she was talking about real players in WoW and them leaving it

[@124Spark]

Damn...so she really was the good guy all along

[@michellamberg3230]

if this would be true,Blizzard would success at making greatest game ever in the world. period.

[@adventurepeaks4514]

Blizzard unknowingly for filling their own prophecy because the prophecy is so badly written that it frees a generation of neckbeards from wow addiction

[@zantesh]

Bunch of story writers probably snuck that into the game while knowing that shadowlands would kill wow. Lol

[@thebrotherhood227]

Sylvanas was my fave character in any game for a long time I legit have a tattoo of her on my arm Her writing since Legion has made me want to kill myself

[@TheRockinDonkey]

"I'm not gonna 'high road' anyone. If you take the low road, I'll meet you there." That's such a great statement.

[@mrillis9259]

It's always best to cut your opponent down to your level, then beat them with experience.

[@FinalFlash1000]

But ...that way he will give up his high ground advantage ..... Obi- Wan will be disappointed .

[@tonjoubasara5259]

Imagine blaming the streamer, that kept your game above water throughout the years, for making the community toxic, when in reality you were the one that made it that way to begin with. Blizzard employees are absolutely disgusting man.

[@user-fp3le7mp3p]

its players as well and thats a fact. I've seen WoW players attacking FF14 fans countless times in comment sections. They had and still have no reason for that however the FF14 fans took kill them with kindness to a new level and have done nothing but welcome new players to the game both to new and old MMO fans. I played WoW for two months but I hardly saw anyone and noone was friendly however then compared to just this week started FF14 and on my first day everywhere has players, everyone is helpful and seen multiple messages in chat welcoming new players offering help and advice to anyone. The contrasts between a healthy and toxic fan base there cant be ignored because while sure both have toxic areas one of them at very least has shown players to be friendly.

[@Kanamon22]

@@user-fp3le7mp3p people say there's still toxic shit in 14,haven't encounter that, but i believe it. But asmon is right, blizzard don't give a fuck about enforcing shit, you get harassed in 14 and the suspension or banhammer will be fucking quick. One game cares, the other doesn't give 2 fucks about you.

[@TheREALHugo4]

@@user-fp3le7mp3p That's why the ff14 community is infinitively better.

[@laneysatm]

"the streamer, that kept your game above water throughout the years" how fucking true is this

[@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg]

Leftists. Leftist Blizzard employees. Name the actual problem, don't be a coward.

[@Biggsgaming]

Asmon living rent free in ActiBlizzard’s mind right now because he’s so fucking right.

[@prdgmshft9107]

.

[@userunknown1030]

more like they live free in his head because he is crying they like tweet that are mean about him lol. if he truly didn't care or he thought he was getting back at people he would be going after the people who made the comment not the people who liked it lol. since he went after those people then the people liking the tweets would go away after he got the original poster to stop being "mean". just because you do some good things doesn't mean you are your community isn't shit the other 90% of the time like he said blizzard does with the act of supporting all these cause right. he think blizzard is in a bad state at the moment right with the lawsuit and wow but blizzard did the same as him they run charty spots all the time doesn't make the good people or a good company just means the know how to do PR. asmond here he knows how to do good PR is all. pretend like he cares what his community does but really doesn't stop any of them from doing anything. though i don't hold that agains t him what can he do about that really but is farce caring doesn't help matters.

[@pt9373]

@@userunknown1030 Nice book. No one cares.

[@sslingo]

@@userunknown1030 tldr

[@Psytinker]

It's evident it's a pathological *need* to deflect blame on others at this point. Blizzard employees have no intention of being held accountable for anything. The Diablo 3 devs going "Fuck that loser" to a Diablo 2 dev situation is 9 years old at this point, and apparently nothing's changed, and likely got even worse. It's pointless to engage with these sorts of people. The entire company must be purged. Glad you could make it, Uther.

[@SmugCanadian]

Look, all I'm going to say is the people tweeting against asmon looked exactly how I imagined they would.

[@NepTunezzzz]

Exactly

[@benjaminwallace2971]

Laura Shortridge-Scott on twitter, is her name.

[@grzegorzflorek5623]

Why am I not surprised?

[@Zamix69]

Lmao true

[@VictouffeVideos]

@@benjaminwallace2971 Asmongold: "Please don't harassa them. And don't mock their appearance" The fanbase: *mocks appearance and links to twitter* great job lads, proving all these people right

[@Gnarlcharm]

"Hey, we have this big streamer who still plays our game with a big community, imagine the amount of knowledge and feedback we could get from them to improve our game and make it better. A real opportunity to work with our community" "Actually, he doesn't like our systems, let's call him toxic" Laughable. When I played WoW the community was mostly toxic, when I returned it was still mostly toxic. Hard to believe Asmon and the WoW players who follow him are the cause. Toys out the pram much?

[@charlespanache7047]

It's been toxic forever I remember trying to get 1600 in rated 2's.

[@BearInThaWoods]

Their hatred of him started with his support of Trump. Now, regardless of what he says, he occupies a negative space in their minds and is instantly wrong. They have created a hugbox within a company who's reputation they've inherited but dont deserve.

[@freshprint5679]

Mfs really never played on Mal’Ganis and ran with Goon Squad lol

[@Gnarlcharm]

@Glenn Krenz Does that promotion come with groping rights?

[@alexander1055]

@@Gnarlcharm Not Rights but rather a Free Card.

[@Forgeblaze]

"asmon getting attacked for reasonable takes against a garbage company" honestly is whats actually happening xddd

[@thehatter9400]

From blizz fan boys? Any amount of simping

[@evan11233]

?

[@oppaikunoichininjashadow919]

yeah that is just the go to for companies these days. Don't take the blame for anything but pin it all on something else, it always the fault of the fans somehow. Which honestly who the heck brings up ggate these days? Didn't that die years ago? Gee are these people living under a bloody rock?

[@FLFleXx]

It’s the people who claim to be from asmongold stream / band wagons on hating blizzard harassing people personally . I don’t think I’ve ever heard asmon harass a blizzard employee, just the game

[@thehatter9400]

@@stingcool9455 yeah but ego can make even pea brains can become rice grain sized

[@petervernon4063]

Asmon calls the community trash, Everyone proceeds to to prove him right

[@BerryBabaBear]

So true lmao

[@skivvy3565]

The best part is all of us agreeing with asmon Are the community hahahaha

[@86250r]

@@skivvy3565 and you're a product of the root problem, the creator. Blizzard.

[@leradmuiel7634]

@@colorsstones8957 this is what they call projection.

[@BabyzDevil]

@@colorsstones8957 i would give him a standing ovation tbh. The more prominent part of the WoW community is REALLY REALLY bad. Be it players with no patience, or boosters in LFG or the really horrible game design (as of 9.0. didn't go back for 9.1).

[@let_me_explain8572]

Blue check mark ✓ Colored hair ✓ Blaming others for own failures ✓ Spreading hate & doxing people yet calling others for being toxic ✓ Criticizing someone's appearance while simultaneously looking like an RGB strip light ✓ Yep, Asmon just walked into a real Twitter community

[@spagetti5309]

Imagine saying its not okay to be toxic yet be toxic themselves and attack someone's appearance and what not.. WHATS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

[@Trakesh]

@SmashStomp Inc >far left you mean the mainstream left lol

[@papabones8753]

@@Trakesh Exactly. Mainstream opinion shifted so far left that this is now the normal left and people like me who're moderates are now the "right wing trolls", lol.

[@princessjello]

@@papabones8753 breh its got nothing to do with left or right. You will literally see ppl on the right malding over something as dumb dr. Seuss. Its bad identity politics on both sides

[@bangthehankers1985]

Executive Expression Overseer at Blizzard Entertainment. Wine, plant-based food, furmama. Genderoscillator, sher/xhem. Opinions my own debased lunacy.

[@nathanflannery3031]

I'm a viewer from the FFXIV community, haven't decided to subscribe until now. These quotes sealed it for me: "I don't punch up. I don't punch down. I punch back" "I'm not going to take the high road. you take the low road, I'll meet you there." I feel these so much.

[@Dreydan]

He may be the dark knight we need right now.

[@meh8650]

Welcome! ^^

[@ForgottenMyth]

"Those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks." Twitter is the most fragile glass house of them all.

[@userunknown1030]

that is why i am not on it nor why asmond should be on it but i guess so long as he is there he will have to deal with mean tweets and blizzard lol. if he doesn't like maybe he should stop playing wow altogether or at least until a new wow dev team is made which seems to be right around the corner anyway maybe he should move on for now and come back in a year or two when they fix the team up.

[@mavolent6332]

literal sugar glass houses fuck that place and everyone who uses that shit platform like its some sort of religion

[@Gsdizzle19]

Laura Shortridge-Scott is the user

[@21joebloe]

Every day I thank my lucky stars I've never been into Twitter or Instagram

[@Lion-tq7ob]

DiscordianKitty is the twitter account. Enjoy it before the inevitable protected status. Don't chase clout if you can't handle it LUL.

[@marcieconrad9413]

The fact that all these Devs and Blizzard employees over the last few months have been publicly making statements like this, tells me all I need to know about why the community is toxic. Most companies make you sign an agreement about social media and what you can post, because you are representing the company. The fact that there has been no consequences for these people, even a little bit, literally explains everything.

[@BinahAtala]

Yep....is obvious that the company is a trashcan of sick culture. This same people are more than certainly looking away while other employees are harassed.

[@waldineytorres8578]

Cool to see a lady having this take. But don't get the wrong idea, I'm not simping, it's just cool! Neither I will cube crawl towards you. :^)

[@The_Desert_Tiger]

Oh management will step in if what these people are saying starts costing the company money, so all you need to do is send a message that this is costing them money and these people will lose their jobs pretty fast.

[@Raumplestomp]

Blame bobby kotick. He started it.

[@belstar1128]

These companies endorse these kinds of insults the problem is bigger.

[@dominicdo2719]

"I don't punch up, I don't punch down I punch back" "If you take the low road I'll meet you there" Those quotes are gold

[@andrewbarnett536]

they're not just gold... their Asmongold

[@nicogaiden1498]

Sounds like og wise head stuff you'd hear from a father or a granddad, just raw facts.

[@dominicdo2719]

@@andrewbarnett536 get out

[@andrewbarnett536]

@@dominicdo2719 ???

[@proteinflakes4688]

@@andrewbarnett536i think they dont like your joke

[@warrenoakes949]

Always remember, Asmondgold wanted the game to succeed and made suggestions on behalf of the community, Asmons complaints were not the cause of Blizzards downfall, it was a combination of Blizzards ignorance and bad behaviour that exacerbated it.

[@warrenoakes949]

@yohan tristram aaaaaaahhhh, i see, that proves it then.

[@MrRhoadsRules25]

"You take the low road and I'll meet you there." Asmon is way too good at analogies

[@shroud4269]

Wasn't really an analogy but I get what you mean

[@futurecultleader3060]

I caught onto this line in particular and set it in stone in my mind. Defo using this myself in any shitty altercations I may find myself in in the future.

[@reclaimtheframe]

Asmon for Congress 2020 use them time travel powers...

[@Eksile8]

"I'm not punching up or punching down, I'm punching back". I've always believed a bully is a bully. Not defending yourself tells people they can walk all over you. No matter who they are to you.

[@meadandmilk]

He doesn't punch down, nor does he punch up. He punches back.

[@dhybiak]

The WoW community IS awful, I remember opening 5 tickets with WoW GMs about a broken quest and they kept closing it saying it was fixed when it wasn’t (was old TBC daily content and they clearly didn’t care). Then I posted this frustration on the WoW Reddit (no insults, just “Why isn’t this stuff being taken seriously?” with the description of my experience) and was flooded with trolls telling me to quit the game then if I don’t like it, get out, etc. Just absolute trash mentality.

[@xychogaming]

Yup. Only takes spending a few minutes on WoW forums to understand just how toxic the community is. A LOT of it coming from Asmons community though on those forums, as they love to brag about it and quote Asmon all the time. What i find interesting, that a lot of people arent really talking about, is how many people have been transferring off of the Aether datacenter in FFXIV because of Asmon and the people who followed him. Yesterday we had quite a few show up in the novice network that all said the same thing...they left because they were getting annoyed being over there with Asmon's community. Even today on Asmon's stream, his community was trying to mass report people to try and get them banned. Its just a horrible trash community, and Asmon does indeed play a part in it...especially his mods who were hyping it up and supporting the toxicness in his chat today.

[@papabones8753]

@@Burlehmangus With the example of posting it on the subreddit didn't they also mean the community? Read the above again, lol.

[@swann9147]

It really is. I came over to WoW during BC from FFXI and I was shocked.

[@Beenbarian]

Your mistake was going to Reddit in the first place. Yes the WoW community is toxic but the Reddit community is way more toxic, it's where the toxic people go to flame others, like concentrated toxicity, it's horrible. I'm pretty sure people just go around onto random forums doing this. I bet 25% of the people responding don't even play WoW

[@Sodys_eyy]

The first person is like “Asmin gets SO OFFENDED” yet she wrote like 4 articles about how he is offended

[@L1qu1d-2qu1d]

I tend not to trust someone when they have blue hair and cat ear headphones, that already screams red flags

[@OilFreeFeathers]

Don't forget the undercut.

[@XenoSpyro]

something something glass stones

[@moonblaze4725]

Archmagos Squid all that aside. How do they not see that this angry mobb has been broooooooooding for long time. It has gotten really bad during BfA and has been riling up ever since. How do they not see recent events leading up to these hate attacks.

[@Briggsby]

@@L1qu1d-2qu1d uhh, I guess I'll just go bleach my hair and put away my headphones now. *Sad face*

[@i420PraiseIt]

"I don't punch down, I don't punch up, I punch back." and "I'm not gonna high road anybody, if you take the low road I'll meet you there." well said Asmon!

[@axson8]

feel like this doesn't get said enough, but the editor for this channel does a really good job. Keep up the great work!

[@dragonstorm7861]

I wonder if Catdany and Daily Dose actually read these comments.

[@TheCrazyDcoolest]

Heard that 👆

[@kubasniak]

SHOUT OUT TO THE MAN BEHIND THE SCENES! Always enjoy it 💪

[@kevindenis9551]

I’m actually really glad Asmon speaks his mind and isn’t afraid to say how he feels and tell how it is. It’s far better than the people who pretend nothing is wrong and won’t address the serious problems at hand. (looking at you Activision/Blizzard) the fact that they actually react to him so easily show that he’s right and that they do seem to care about what he says. I hope he never changes and keeps playing games and having fun, that’s what gamers do after all.

[@carlosthemandalor3650]

fuck blizzard period their shit is coming too and end and they know it

[@asmrawr1444]

Fuck blizzard those incompetent idiots with they check mark ✅ ? Play your own game then you can tell us how you feel about it...

[@firstlast6437]

I agree, and its why I watch him, but he's still a massive hypocrite when it comes to things like the boosts and monetizing classic wow.

[@bighatastrea]

I don't really think these twitter tweets are important at all though. That first tweet hat almost no likes, when it comes to twitter it's always like that. News and videos with titles like "twitter hates X", "twitter is attacking me" meanwhile it's 1000 positive posts with thousands of upvotes and just this negative one with a few hundred ones :D Edit: lmao why people say I'm from twitter, I fucking hate this website and never used it before, just read there from time to time and look at the number of likes. Typical toxic cringe hate stuff gets a few upvotes, positive comments shooting against these toxic idiots get thousands of upvotes tho

[@asmrawr1444]

@@bighatastrea nothing about world of warcraft is positive, from the players to the actual game itself

[@BlameMaxSand]

Sounds like BLizz are crybullies, picking a fight then screaming in pain when their victim doesn't just lay down and take it, but fights back.

[@lucasmorgan6856]

This dude ^^

[@ghfryw]

hahahah

[@stanjon7]

I’ve literally seen this happen. I went to a combined middle/High-school. When I was there this fat kid in middle school was known for bullying everyone. Pulling girls bra straps and snapping them hard, pushing people and insulting constantly. One day no lie one of the most unpopular scrawny kids turned around and decked his ass. Busted his sunglasses nose bleeding. The next day he was at school with his parents and the police trying to press charges.Thankfully the kid who threw the punch only got three days of out of school suspension.

[@kwrifles]

The SJW-dev cries out in pain as he lashes out at you

[@edattacks]

@@kwrifles "IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD"

[@TigerKirby215]

"It's not the people molesting each other in the company it's the bald man." - Pretty much what both Blizzard fanboys and Blizzard as a company seem to think.

[@pappaspence]

Are there still fanboys left in wow?

[@mitsunekolucky671]

@@pappaspence Judging from Twitter comments, yes.

[@Honyakusha]

"Toxic community", "thin skin", "mob" lmao, i love when people attack asmon accusing him being toxic and saying he shows target to his mob while they're doing exactly same thing and even worse. People are tend to forget he's a human being. I'm quite sure many people cannot handle this much of personal attack like asmon did and hell even i fell bad and down when i witness some of those attacks. Stay strong Asmon, we need an asshole like you, much love brother.

[@tianachidester1566]

I saw how asmongold determines his guildies and if an i will work hard doesnt cut it... what does? I was offended at asmongold and i like him

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

Yeah, the irony of that shit was blinding. Talking about 'pointing your mob at people' as you point your mob at people. Classic.

[@tianachidester1566]

@Reclusiarch Grimaldus ??? L2P???

[@wudly9195]

If a stupid person gets exposed and a lot of people retaliate it’s called a “””hate mob””” . Thus making the dumb person out to be the victim .

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

@@wudly9195 It's called a victim mentality and it's a problem that crops up all too often in circumstances involving these big businesses that care about nothing except protecting their brand. Investigations are always 'inaccurate', 'misunderstanding', or 'poorly executed'. External don't have all the facts straight which is why they're wrong. Internal protestors are dissidents that are disloyal and must be purged. So on and so forth. Corporations often grow to become kinda minature fascist countries. Lots of people involved, but with all the power and propaganda control concentrated at the top.

[@ColdIronCoyote]

I will admit. I am a newer watcher, just within the last month. I heard all the nasty talk about Asmon and was curious. Watched some vids, been tuning into streams. And I dont get it. I've not seen anything bad here. Sure he plays an overly cocky character, but he clearly wears his heart on his sleeve.

[@thetalantonx]

Exactly. These people claiming the "moral high ground" allows them in their minds to attack without civility because they are engaging with their ideas of him and talking about him without ever seeing him as another person worthy of consideration. Read: the people who are attacking him are bigots using their stereotypes to justify hatred and harassment.

[@NostraDavid2]

I think that whenever anyone (streamer or not) mentions someone that said or did something negative, some people have a tendency to go to that person and give them a piece of their mind. To the receiving person it will feel like they are being dogpiled, ergo the use of the word "harassment". That is maybe something Asmon *can* still do: make it VERY clear that whenever he adresses a person, viewers are to LEAVE THAT PERSON ALONE. Don't @ them, don't talk to them, don't even think about theme. Asmon can adress it in a video and that's that. But I don't think Asmon is toxic because some of his viewers are assholes and try to argue with a person that has no bearing on *their* life. And yes, I have been a part of such raids. Something I thought about and realized after the fact. That's why I talk about it: to make more people aware that even though such behavior is prevalent, it shouldn't be accepted.

[@domiasmoth]

It's just people that remember him from a while ago. He defiantly used to be pretty toxic, but has since learned and changed. I used to not even be able to watch him stuff cuz of it, but now he's like the only one I watch. People can change and it's clear he has. He def. doesn't deserve the hate these days.

[@panzerhund8511]

They have to ruin his reputation, because he is right, and the only way those devs could stop people from listening to him, is to persuade them that he is a bad person. Asmong tells the truth that they don't want people to hear. Blizzad devs want you to believe that you are "part of the problem" if you demand to get what you paid for. Blizzard employees touched others is a way they should not, and when you ask "where is the patch for the game that pay monthly fee", they say that they have more important stuff and you are somehow responsible for it.

[@fytz]

Asmond

[@connorbell01]

"I'm not gonna high road anybody. If you take the low road Ill meet you there" - Asmongold 2021

[@leadershipisaphilosophy]

That statement was perfect.

[@neptunechariots2299]

This is amazing

[@trurevu8126]

Comment of the year

[@Sneedmeister]

that's how it should be. be prepared to receive what you dish out. if you want to talk shit, dont be surprised if you get shit talked back

[@tianachidester1566]

Yay... low road kudos

[@Orchested]

flashbacks of my first wow dungeon as a healer where the party was rushing, left me behind, didnt kill all mobs so i could not reach to them without dying, and then they kicked me out: this guy is right

[@Martician]

One of my first dungeon experiences in wow was me getting sluts thrown at me the entire dungeon because I didn’t have heirlooms. I was ducking new to the game, like ????

[@Martician]

@@Timeyy that should’ve been slurs xD

[@jamiestwrt]

Ah that really sucks :(

[@otter8362]

WoW: is dying rapidly game devs: "this cant be our fault."

[@tylermills2363]

Phase 2 will come out and everybody will play it lol. They are just bored waiting..

[@yamispade]

Blizzard: Am I to blame? no no it's the streamers and players that are to blame for everything.

[@mikeshh3497]

Not dead at all

[@justanothersteve2246]

Bald man bad.

[@Crydal1337]

You forgot the COPIUM

[@kevinwalden4288]

"Don't for a second think I'm walking this back!" Hahaha love it dude

[@waldineytorres8578]

@@HiddenEvilStudios I'm always glad when I see People with capital P spreading this wisdom :)

[@warlocksk8ter2005]

Asmon: "You take the low road... I'll meet you there." Best Line hands DOWN!!

[@kjbclassics9949]

true an im on asmongolds side an all but when he says "just because im a streamer doesn't meant i cant have the same experience as everyone else" talking about the negative parts of him streaming a game... but when its positive hes all for it "im starting a group only mages" when it benefits him hes perfectly fine with it... while most of us cant find groups for shit because were not streamers

[@SeksyTimes]

3:40 “Suck a fucking dick” that was just pure art!

[@3Katapa]

Fucking mic drop. That might be my 1st tattoo holy fuck that's savage asf.

[@warlocksk8ter2005]

@@kjbclassics9949 The Devs are so out of touch with the community and themselves, its very scary. The downfall the company has been going through will be great for us as players. We have the power in this situation and it scares the hell out of them. WoW will slowly die and other games will do it better and force WoW to step up to the plate. Which will result in WoW being better but the question is... Will players give it a 124334567 chance?? I don't think alot of players will but some might.

[@kjbclassics9949]

@@warlocksk8ter2005 wow will never die this will happen after every expansion gets boring when the next expansion comes out asmon an McConnell will be laughing playing the game for 2 weeks then the cycle will happen again

[@Aussielight]

"I've been accused of harassment whenever I defend myself & defend my community - The idea I should allow myself to be attacked is driven by narcissism and entitlement. I don't punch down, I don't punch up - I punch back." - Truest of Wisdom.

[@fycat]

The mental image of him getting a time machine, going back in time and telling people on WoW to be toxic was hysterical to me and I don't know why

[@yamispade]

Same here, I genuinely chuckled at that part of the video with that image in mind.

[@chillshock2144]

PLOPP ‚sup? It‘s me, your boy Asmongold! Be toxic bitches! PLOPP Raaawr!

[@Dreydan]

He shouldn't give Blizzard plot ideas like that.

[@dizzybee4176]

Gamers: Tell us you're a loser without telling us you're a loser ActiBlizz: We ignore HR complaints and blame gamers/streamers for the sh*t storm we created

[@engeng-tu4dr]

To be fair, the people harassing Asmongold and the HR/predatory portion of Blizzard are probably two different section of people.

[@ColdRoland]

@@engeng-tu4dr Nah, they wanna create some drama in hopes that people don't pay attention to how rotten their company is, as much. Too bad most people can do both. Call their bullshit out AND keep their asses over the coals.

[@sesugawaaruno830]

"he also wants to be thought of as a good person. He gets so offended when it's suggested otherwise" okay folks, this isn't about Asmongold. I remember him saying "I'm not a good person, I'm not a bad person, I'm just me" or something along that line if I recall it correctly.

[@rinkashikachi]

Yes, he says that constantly. And these morons still ignore it

[@Ashthedon112]

It's just projection. They see themselves as 'the good person' when they know for well what they are doing is wrong.

[@EminemLovesGrapes]

Cop out

[@Poberaganser]

Even while I don't watch Asmon's streams anymore, I can't deny, that I really respect him for being himself. No "I'm sorry" shit, no taking his words back. I respect that. Keep that trait, man. Good luck!

[@petresko1041]

"I'm not gonna high-road anybody, if you're gonna take the low-road I'll meet you there." I love this!

[@raymondrodriguez5715]

Word

[@e87117]

Me too. Too many people act like if they take the "High Road" it makes them the better person automatically. No it doesn't, it makes you look weak and puts a target on your head.

[@The86Ripper]

@@e87117 In the sense and cases asmongold has been doing it, yes i agree as well. However imagine working or being part of a competitive environment in whatever in your life and getting in constant arguments. Not that i would know but undoubtedly you would have to let some things go, otherwise you are that "stuck up person" Especially when you dont have people backing you up. I mean you could still do it, but you would have to have a loooot of time on your hands. Also personal good karma and energy are important, and shouldnt be "wasted" that way. I can tell you from personal experience that every single time you attack someone, the firt person to take a hit is your psyche. But hey, just saying, dont mean to sound preachy or anything. And again, for sure when you dont stand up for yourself when you need to, sometimes it can become a downward spiral hard to control.

[@Cahrub]

"I don't want anybody to believe, I am no white knight. I am no role-model, I am nobody you should look up to. I have done a million bad things, but I've also tried to stop doing quite as many of them" DRK suits him well.

[@cameronharvey4746]

he is literally a dark knight haha over the past 3 months i’ve realized what an actual good person he is whereas i used to think he was funny but not a good person.

[@joshanonline]

@@Enderlinkpawnu Interestingly, the blizz and twitter people always think they are completely blameless and they would rather Destroy you than admitting they've done wrong. Each side is fcked up in different ways, but only one is has projecting mirror armors. That's twitter for ya. Always bringing out the worst of humanity.

[@Sanguiris]

What is DRK?

[@kaldratzarreth9854]

@@Sanguiris Dark knight, from FFXIV

[@jonmaciel]

This isn't the sign of WoW being in managed decline. This is Blizzard as a whole being in managed decline. If you still enjoy WoW, that's fine. But it's only going to get worse from here, not better.

[@Dirtyred525]

When Sylvanys said “This world is a prison, and I will set us all free.” she was referring to the game and it’s hold on the players. Her mission is to kill WoW. To free us all. She truly is the game’s protagonist.

[@belstar1128]

More like a entire civilization being managed into decline.

[@agollumcalledgandalf]

"the bad guy ruined everything before he was even a thing" actually sounds like the plot of a new WoW expansion

[@otundetchagala9560]

Honestly, having blue hair, a chekmark and posting on twitter should lose you the argument by default.

[@agollumcalledgandalf]

@@otundetchagala9560 I've no idea what having blue hair has to do with anything

[@ImperatorofNonsense]

@@agollumcalledgandalf blue hair is - I want to be special but don't do anything.

[@agollumcalledgandalf]

@@ImperatorofNonsense idk sounds like you're projecting

[@ImperatorofNonsense]

@@agollumcalledgandalf whatever you say.

[@nope.7194]

"The reality is, when you do a bad thing and pretend it wasn't a bad thing, you've lost the plot." Surprisingly profound. And moments like that one are why I subbed to Asmon. Guy is wiser than he seems. That and he's fun, but yeah.

[@Colorboy88]

I think so as well. It's the content between the lines which makes it worth my while watching his videos. It also makes me coming back to slowly dig deeper into this human called asmongold as he has something I can relate to. He's also authentic as he seems to stay true to what he says. I don't approve of all his opinions. (For example isn't punching back a way to feed the trolls which doesn't achieve anything substantial?) He's not a shallow guy. "Listen to the gaps between the words| Listen to the emptiness between the lines| Listen to me not what I say then an understanding will arise and suddenly like a flash of lightning| You will be able to see me and the original that is right now happening before you!" (Acharya Rajneesh) Well like he said he's no saint and nobody should see him as one. Also who doesn't take the time to take the time to try to see 'beyond' (see above) I wouldn't take serious. Keep up the work 😊👍

[@fragiquerence]

here we go, having common sense is called being wise now. When people happy about other people have common sense we know: the world is fucked

[@fragiquerence]

@@keenfire8151 seems like you better to calm down if you reacting like that

[@glimglam1153]

​@@fragiquerence Always great to see someone use the No u defense when called out. Honestly you're just proving his point.

[@fragiquerence]

@@glimglam1153 yeah, I should definitely not use "no you" even when somebody strongly feels need to calm somebody down, you absolutely right

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

Completely relate to the feeling of "used up all my luck" same thing over here, in high school I got very lucky a series of times and now I am just thankful I am not dead or paralyzed

[@donner7708]

Yes. Me fucking too. It's really insane to think about sometimes.

[@iannabben2]

Honestly. I was playing FFXIV and we were doing a dungeon. There was this person that was running a bit behind and we had 2 people who probably didn't have the best day so I helped her along a bit since she was new to the dungeon. Turned out she was a freshly swapped member from WOW to FFXIV and came here purely because of how unliveable it was there. That really woke me up. Never played the game but F that.

[@greenFuneral]

I unsubbed from wow months ago now but the past 3-4 years I've only played it as a single player game ngl. Just farming achievements and mounts pretty much. That is the only way it's tolerable because anywhere you go most people will be assholes. General chat in cities are full of people ranting about their insane takes, you go to a BG and everyone is malding over the smallest mistakes, I try to do some basic heroic dungeons and the group just runs around to 60 different directions because everyone wants to do whatever they want to do. Now it's not all bad, I did some LFR content for the story and most of them were pretty alright. But I noticed myself becoming very toxic as well in BGs or some raids and I hated it. It took me a while to get used to FFXIV community's acceptance of mistakes and to not be sketched out to talk to other players and befriend them/attempt to do some harder content. I haven't done stuff like this since BC lol

[@Anvillius]

Moved from wow to ffxiv and the game has blown me away, so much to do and the community has been great

[@AlchemicSoul]

The only toxic thing I've seen in the last... gonna say month of FFXIV was a tank bitching out a RDM for accidently ninja pulling in CLL a week ago or so. But it didn't really matter because the rest of the alliance turned on the tank for being a jerk. Solid-ass community in XIV. This person in the video doesn't know what toxicity in a game actually is, because they're toxic, I mean look at this shit. That's all there is to it.

[@Diet07Coke]

Speaking as someone whose played FFXIV for a while now, I've been kind of horrified to learn about how much negativity and toxicity was going on in the WoW community (and this isn't even talking about Blizzard themselves). I figured that if people had dedicated so much time to it, then there had to be something amazing that kept them coming back, but honestly some of what I've been learning about makes the worst aspects of the FFXIV community look fucking mild in comparison.

[@iannabben2]

@@HiddenEvilStudios oh definetly ^-^ she was brilliant. We talked for like an hour. Showed mounts, i showed her some cool weapons it wsd fun 😁😁

[@chriswolfe3770]

"If you take the low road, I'll meet you there." I feel this so much.

[@reynaaiken4542]

I love how those complainers are basically calling Asmon the god of wow

[@waldineytorres8578]

They're promoting him and lowering themselves, it's perfect. I feel bad for Asmon, but he's going to get a huge victory in the end.

[@clon1122]

He is the literal god 😂

[@uberpinkwarrior]

I only started watching Asmon when he started playing FFXIV cause I'm not a WoW player, I'm an FFXIV player. But from what I've seen is that Asmon is fairly positive whenever he is doing group content. In raids he is constantly trying to pep up his team, when someone messes up he downplays it while pushing for everyone to do just that little bit better. I have not actually seen much I would consider "toxic", and that toxicity is largely him doing chocobo races, where he doesn't even have team mates and I write it off as banal competitive chatter. In fact, compared to a lot of what I hear in competitive games, this doesn't even count as toxic it is so minor. With all that said, glad you are enjoying your time in FFXIV, Asmon, and hope you continue to do so. Games should be for fun, first and foremost, and I sincerely hope everyone is having fun playing their chosen games.

[@technoviking2415]

Ive never played wow i just enjoy his streams alot of his community have never played wow.

[@Chomakot]

@@technoviking2415 I started wow cause of asmon, just on private servers cause I'm broke so far it's good altho its older expansions they are deemed the best

[@omega1231]

@@Chomakot LOL there's more bug fixing etc. on some private servers than on retail servers, no shame in playing on private servers especially now.

[@Xearf]

Same here. Haven’t seen any toxic content since I started following him. Honestly, the Blizzard work culture sounds more toxic than anything.

[@algiux112]

He is cool dude, I like him because I think he is very real and I have never seen him ever hating a person, but he can be harsh to a characters - lot's of people, including myself knew him around Legion as toxic shit, but then I looked at some of the things he is doing and saying and how he does that - full videos he became someone I love to watch. Doesn't mean he is always right tho, but always open for discussion. I, for one, don't agree on WoW community being trash just because I know lots of very great people and guilds who are very friendly and supportive. But certainly WoW has a problem in pugging toxicity, especially at low levels, because believe me, when you are doing top 5% content, people are very similar so conflicts are not as often occurring.

[@sibes765]

It's almost like the devs have forgotten about the OG realm forums and elitistjerks. These where the primordial ooze for the current WoW culture. You had to be the best to loot the best. Loot was a gamble of time vs rng. Your reputation and progression was based off of playing through and with the top players, which were by nature noxic. When you base a game off swag and make the swag tough (in the terms of time allocation not difficulty) to obtain high end players stopped putting up slackers. We then passed this behavior down through the generation of new players. The good players stayed and the bad ones either went to pet battles or unsubbed. Asmon is a product of the games environment. He is popular because he is like most of the player base not because he invented it. Zach is smart enough to know this is what gets views. Go on with you my guy.

[@pinoydragon]

Blizzard is literally just outting themselves. How professional of them. Just goes to show what kind of business they have TURNED to. We love you Asmon and we appreciate you for being such a powerful force for our community.

[@CraftMine1000]

The devs: "waaaaa, waaaa, asmon is using his community like a mob and he's thin skinned waaaaa" Some narrator: "the devs said, as they themselves ironically were forming a mob and being thin skinned about completely valid criticism" Lol

[@taylorbrubaker816]

On this week's episode of our telenovella...

[@PhyreI3ird]

Classic projection 👌

[@Citation007]

Asmon is not responsible for what everyone who watched him does. He does not pay them. He does not employee them or hold them to standards. Blizzard does pay their employees. Blizzard does set standards at their workplace. They also do have the power to set the standard of the game community. However it's far easier to blame a streamer you never watch because of the perception you have of them in your head.

[@ridstock9663]

He even spends much of the time being measured in his responses to things like this because he knows how Twitch viewers can be. He reiterated several times during this short video that he isn't a role model, he mostly just laid out that he wasn't happy about being attacked but didn't really push back or fire insults or anything like that, just expressed his feelings on the matter and left it there.

[@Douge6174]

To be fair. Asmongold is an influencer which means he influences people. There is responsibility involved in being an influencer. An influencer is a person who inspires and/or guides the actions of others. I wouldn't call Asmon toxic or an harasser though since a lot of his criticism is constructive, honest, satire and comedic. I do believe his criticism is valid and I do believe a lot of people watch him because they sympathize with him regarding his frustration. He is not to blame for getting peoples sympathy regarding this. He is the voice for the frustrated mass and has been for a long time.

[@redbeardsteelskin6723]

@@Ashuowl I haven't played since 2011 and it was toxic af then , so I dunno what Blizz is on about this just happening since Asmon.

[@daicaghund3587]

Yes Douglas but thats passing the buck. At the end of the day individuals are responsible for how they choose to conduct themselves. To suggest that he has responsibility for that, while I get what you are saying, seems to suggest that individuals do not need to hold themselves accountable for their actions. Too often society seems to increasingly blame others for their decision instead of taking ownership. Noone MAKES us do what we do. We make a conscious decision to do what we do and can choose otherwise at any time.... I totally agree with you otherwise.

[@leolionheart3982]

The funniest thing as well, the toxicity that these actual devs for the game call him out for is prevalent across international servers. These devs are so disconnected it’s insane how they think they’re in the right.

[@kit6863]

Yup! As a female gamer in wow for the past 16 years… I’ve put up with a lot of verbal harassment and abuse from male gamers in both chat and voice. Blizzard has never given a shit. Reports and tickets got brushed under the rug. Blizzard Devs = nerdy man babies with money. I’ve gained so much respect for Asmon recently and I agree he knows his shit! He fights for us in the community and I’m so grateful. We got your back Asmon!

[@Eraktab]

Sorry to hear it... Nobody deserves that shit.

[@loopygordo]

Villifiying one of the largest living advertisements you have. All while the company you work for is burning to the ground. Incredible.

[@laneysatm]

Its truly unbelievable how this is unfolding. It honestly gets better and better /popcorn

[@manov32]

If they had the manual for Marketing 101, they would’ve known not to do it... 😂😂😂

[@iliketowatchvideos926]

It’s called a pro gamer move… lol

[@Croakin]

“I’m no white knight”- Asmongold, literally a dark knight

[@KresusFIN]

It's funny because the XIV Dark Knight is pretty much the epitome of a White Knight.

[@gladjohnson3117]

@@KresusFIN que? How is saving a child whiteknighting? Unless there is something more after heavensward I'm not aware of.

[@calebpetrie2206]

Hes pretty white and he is a knight HM

[@waldineytorres8578]

@@KresusFIN Nah, they're made for edgelords and there's nothing wrong about that. Paladins are "slaves" to the sultanate, they deserve the title. Not hating on paladins, btw

[@brunoseyzo2110]

@@KresusFIN they are more like a anti hero, they wont bend down, they go after anyone that do bs and wont hesitate to kill.

[@led-0185]

Like he said before, he lives inside their heads, rent-free.

[@kyle284]

@@HiddenEvilStudios you mean the 🐐

[@elysucre786]

well not free lol he's paying the sub.

[@tenebraequeene]

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 one thing i disagree on is "he's the only president laughed at by world leaders". biden is the second right now. but only cause the poor guy has possible dementia. some of the shit that dude said was wild and/or odd or outright offensive. tho i do agree with a few other things (save for the 'stole the election' thing. and 'crashing the economy') mainly because it was doing pretty well til covid hit. media even had to begrudgingly admit this. but yeah, covid fucked up everyone. if anyone i blame for the deaths around the world, i blame the ccp. trump was pretty bad but i think the hate for him is wildly out of control. it's like he became a scapegoat for everyone's unbridled hatred and frustration. not healthy at all. i may not have liked him much, but i think this is why his supporters are so fervent.

[@kyle284]

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 tldr. Favorite color for your paint chip appetizer?

[@kyle284]

@@HiddenEvilStudios can’t make that shit up any better.

[@ValsorimKhan]

8:45 That one didn't age quite so well

[@operator-zm8bp]

So tru

[@redgeoblaze3752]

"I don't punch up. I don't punch down. I punch back" "I'm not going to take the high road. you take the low road, I'll meet you there." God-Damn, this dude's on fire!

[@LiveLXStudios]

He literally punches up regularly, lol. Often punches down. Or at least down relative to how he frames them. He really does like claiming a weird high ground then immediately contradicts a lot of it.

[@davipenha]

@@beattheovenludwigvan don't forget the fast jabs

[@AndrewHadi07]

@@LiveLXStudios regardless of punching up and down with provocation he will fight back. As long as the other people hit first he will fight back no matter if it was upwards or downwards. Here i'll help you understand some english, seems like you struggle with it.

[@occy127]

One downside to that , is that you're no better than the ppl you're criticizing.

[@obi2fred]

I've only been watching these for a few weeks, but he hardly seems like a bad person. I see the "asshole" attitude but honestly it comes across to me more like just a personality that doesn't hold back punches, not malicious. I've enjoyed watching some of this stuff so far!

[@williamk52]

It’s simple, he doesn’t care about strangers. They call that toxic, what it means is he is a normal person.

[@Chocobow9]

Blizzard's using the wartime strategy of turning internal conflict on an outside force. And the easiest target for both the devs and the shareholders to turn their sights on is the most influential WoW streamer that recently made the switch. The fact the company hasn't punished anyone for attacking Asmon despite how much of an impact he can have on their already diminishing stocks is because the company's silently (or maybe even intentionally) encouraging it. If it goes in their favour, they let it keep going. If it turns out bad due to more of the community turns on them, then they'll backpedal and punish the devs they're using as scapegoats. Also doesn't help that Blizzard is plagued with the kinds of people you'd expect to see on twitter calling everyone toxic for ever minor thing, pretending they have some moral highground for cancelling people, and has an all-around SJW culture (minus the recent harassment issue). Makes it very easy to start slinging buzzwords at people and pretend you actually have a point.

[@gusty9053]

I would say "the recent issue" is perfectly typical of the SJW mindset. It's always all right when they do something despicable because it's never their fault, it's always someone else and somehow they always find a justification for acting like assholes towards normal people (like orange man bad, or white man bad or something else equally stupid). Plus the rule of thumb seems to be: the higher the volume at which they screech "look at me virtue signaling!!! over here" the more skeletons they have to hide.

[@DamienDarksideBlog]

Shareholders are actually extremely disappointed and have directly criticized Blizzard for not doing enough. It's hilarious, the comment above me is screeching "SJW" crap like he is still in 2016. Meanwhile the investors are directly telling Blizzard "Get women on your board, do more for inclusion, you are not doing nearly enough for equality."

[@juvenileygo]

Behaving like that on twitter, imagine how that employee behave on blizz office irl. So disgusting

[@alexander1055]

@@Voidelevator Do you feel personally attacked?

[@Opeloth]

Why would u think anyone would stop playing WOW just because Asmongold ? :D

[@Acegro]

This blue girl in the beginning literally represented everything she accused Asmon of. lol.

[@nevarbennetts]

I know right

[@AlchemicSoul]

WoW is the most anti-social online game I can think of, it's designed to turn people into stressed out husks. There's no longer any social elements, no wind down, nothing to do to relax and chill with friends. Its an MMO where the game world is dead. Its been turned into a seasonal Diablo-like on an agressive montization system. People are fucking miserable because the game makes them like that. I know you want WoW to eventually bounce back, but unless you're willing to slash your standards you know that won't happen. This petty arguing and gaslighting will be the future of the game in lieu of any talented design. Also, I'll just say it: you can tell just how insanely frustrated they are that they can't call you anything harsher and have to resort to stammering the same few quasi-insults over and over.

[@brino508]

>WoW is the most anti-social obline game I can think of Hey now. Give LoL some credit.

[@tylermills2363]

That isn't at fault of the game itself though if you want to get down to the actual issue. People just play it alot differently now..for instance; getting to 70 3 days after release because you dungeon spammed and now you have nothing to do. That's not the games fault. People just take the game too seriously now and try to speedrun it. Alot of the older people dont care about that and are still enjoying themselves

[@NightpireVideos]

I agree if you talk about regular servers, but I moved to a populated RP server and made many friends. These servers are mostly excluded from cross-server phasing and you will see the same people around you more than once, they have real communities. I quit a while ago, but I will leave this as advice for anyone that looks for the laid back social aspect the regular servers used to have. And no, you don't need to roleplay.

[@belstar1128]

Yea and even in classic the community mysteriously became terrible you can't escape it that is why i am skeptical of the ff14 community being good because even classic is bad runescape is a better game that i play but the community is also not great compared to back in the 2000s but much better than wow.

[@edavenome]

I’ve been in a company like that, not too long ago, where there’s a gang of bad people defending each other , and harassing and abusing the people who are professionally good because those people are focused on the work and not on maintaining friendships with whoever will be in power next

[@jabberwookie50]

That is basically Leftism in a nutshell.

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

@@jabberwookie50 Haha, what a dweeb. Probably thinks Liberals are Leftists.

[@supersloth1667]

"The paper-thin skin" Ironic coming from that person.

[@The1rust]

People who maliciously project their own insecurities on to others are always super toxic.

[@coltiskool]

‘I’m not going to high road anybody, if you take the low road I’ll meet you there!’ This is one of the greatest lines I’ve ever heard hahaha.

[@drake128]

Someone somewhere with green hair crying about Asmons paper thin skin in a twitter waterboarding of irony.

[@ottercry3064]

Every single fucking day I like you more and more. Stay safe man and don't take shit from anyone.

[@saphironkindris]

Blizzard: "You disagree with us? Hmmmm, smells like disrespect."

[@matheusbianquincera3104]

they would use the word "Toxicity", its the current buzzword from what it seems

[@danielcastaneda3286]

Facist company*

[@thomasway0320]

Just like how they treat their employees, I guess there are some consistency when it comes to Blizzard

[@Dreydan]

Asmongold might be rough around the edges true, and he does have a lot of influence. Also true. He'll even call himself an asshole. Anyone who's watched his stream can see that he isn't perfect and tries to separate himself from that toxic culture. This is coming from someone who didn't like him at first glance. Then I actually watched a stream and thought to myself he has a lot of insight. Watched a few more and just didn't see the same toxicity from him that I had found in the community when playing the game. He's simply a scapegoat for people who can't take accountability for their own actions. Every person is responsible for their own choices, and if somebody acts like a scumbag because everyone else is doing it. Guess what, they're not acting. All it takes is the decision to be one and be just another drop of water in the toxic ocean. It's always a choice and it all of it adds up. It's that simple. Not everyone needs some grandiose villain backstory to explain why they decided to be a sadistic prick one day. Even fewer have a good reason. Humans are easily swayed by things they can do collectively, but it doesn't excuse them of responsibility. And anyone going around blaming others for their own actions, well what does that say about them? Are they easily manipulated sheep incapable of thinking for themselves? Blizzard has proven time and time again they're collectively clueless about their own community's wants, needs, or motivations. It's a broken company full of unprofessional hypocrites who are going to direct as much negativity toward someone like Asmongold as they can. Gullible people will jump on that bandwagon immediately. Never realizing a simple truth. Asmongold of all people, while being hated on, blamed, and his named dragged through the mud by Blizzard, is still trying to get people to support the honest, hard working, decent people who may still work there. Would even one toxic person ever do that? To stay in the fire when you can easily just move on? Only someone who truly loves the game would put up with that much crap even when he's clearly having more fun playing other things. Asmongold clearly has more faith in the company and community than I do, but it doesn't matter. He'll win in either scenario. Blizzard will either turn themselves around and make Wow good again, or they'll be the final straw to break the camels back. Either way Eorzea will still be there.

[@Dreydan]

@@robsterlobster6068 Neither of those statements are true.

[@pragmaticbias2050]

The "entire community is literally held to ransom by this guys paper-thin skin" line.... *projection skill increased to 100*

[@pragmaticbias2050]

side note - They have fostered the community their content appeals to.. Everyone knows how "elite" players act... when the only meaningful content in the game is M+ and mythic raiding... who tf do you expect to stick around? The most toxic elitist cretins. GG.. reap what you sow Blizz.

[@Plasmacat1]

@@pragmaticbias2050 I mean I been playing for years it's not even just the hardcore stuff. I seen and experienced toxic shit you wouldn't believe in the most casual environments. The game breeds and thrives of it because it is designed as a solo experience that just has others around. No incentive to be good or treat others well.

[@pewthepuny2849]

Indeed. You haven't seen true toxicity before you join a m0 as an arcane mage.

[@TheSchnieder6]

@@Plasmacat1 the toxicity has a trickle down effect. The mythic raiders and high key M+ keep strict requirements when it comes to their groups. Eventually someone will get in that don't meet their expectations, they get kicked and then they get mad. They then form their own groups with their own strict requirements, etc, etc. It eventually gets down to LFR/D groups that are doing the easiest content but without a way to regulate against who gets in, so they start spewing shit at the most blatant mistakes(aka the only ones that they can recognize). And down there at the bottom, all of the toxic shit starts to boil and mix together and spills out to public content and chats. At that point there's nothing the player-base can do, the devs have to step in. But we've seen how Blizz reacts to toxicity now, haven't we?

[@FingMou]

Blizzard has had a toxic relationship with its consumer for years, and now that shit is hitting the fan they are big mad

[@sourceeee]

Sorry that we hate… uh abuse of women and toxic work place environments??? Even then, pointing the finger at Asmon like he’s done anything wrong at all is completely insane

[@morgothastartes]

Amon is at fault,. his toxic act is what made Blizz workers do harassment to their female colleagues. Blizz taking moral high ground in this situation is very very "brave" from them

[@stevenhowie1135]

@@morgothastartes thats insane to say. You act like people dont have control of their actions. Only thing you really get in life is a choice. Whether or not you can control them is on yourself.

[@markosmarkou8156]

@@stevenhowie1135 did you seriously not notice the blatant sarcasm or was that an attempt to mask your matter-of-fact reply as a continuation of the joke

[@stevenhowie1135]

@@markosmarkou8156 i mean sarcasm is only really noticeable though face to face human interaction. So if you think its sarcasm its "sarcasm". But honestly just shut up lol

[@Dodgegame]

@@stevenhowie1135 bro it's obviously sarcasm sorry that you're dumb :/

[@ari_woof]

"Blizzard doesn't want women to get harassed." Welllll, I don't know about that lol

[@BBQMork]

I use to not like Asmongood but this whole situation has actually made me respect him and subscribe. He calls it like it is and acknowledges he's not perfect but isn't afraid to call out stupid bullshit

[@noxus158]

I respect him in that regard however not enough for me as myself to subscribe to him. I just don't like the fact that he swindled a mount that won't ever be used again. And before anything else , yes I am aware he said all loot was his during the Kara run however he never specified the mount. Also not a big fan of wow streamers as a whole they just get free stuff for the community just because. All in all. Good debater and resourcefulness but -50 points for not being a good person at least in wow perspective which were his own words. Come at me

[@Permuh]

@@noxus158 although it's a shitty trait, he's very open about those things too, so whoever raids with him would be ignorant not to know the risk of him loot-whoring at their expense. Doesn't justify it, but people join his raids anyway

[@blacksunshine9995]

@@Permuh Those players that join his raid just so he can reserve those items, and stop playing the game once he has them, are beyond idiotic. Good luck to them on farming for weeks on end while he has a fully decked out toon just waiting for the next raid release.

[@blacksunshine9995]

@@noxus158 He acts like acknowledging his shittiness as a bad person is in any way a defense for him. "At least I can admit it!" doesn't take away from his treatment to the playerbase and the way he milks his supporters dry.

[@noxus158]

@@blacksunshine9995 I agree it's no sub. But I do aknowledge his responses. I really just don't think MMORPG streamers should be helped at all. I can't get anyone do to anything back then in legion and this dude here can just milk anyone with ease

[@Nesiex]

"I'm not going to highroad anybody, if you want to low road me I'll meet you there". This is now a quote I will live my life by.

[@Ravnican127]

your honesty reminded me of something a close friend at work told me one day, "I'm not proud of alot of things I did when I was younger, But I will always own up to them."

[@UnstoppableDWade]

He’s “toxic” because he has an opinion and thinks for himself. They just want sheep to give them all their money and praise them for their shitty work.

[@UnstoppableDWade]

@@robsterlobster6068 what?

[@Skyblade12]

Imagine thinking that a single streamer or content creator has more power over your game than your entire company does. How delusional are these people?

[@BearInThaWoods]

Any reason to refuse accepting responsibility for the situation they find themselves in. They know deep in their hearts that Asmon is right about the game and the company.

[@aspiringnormie9499]

I think he might actually be able to effect the game more than any individual dev

[@Skyblade12]

@@aspiringnormie9499 Morethan any individual dev (discounting leads like Ion)? Sure. More than their whole team? No chance.

[@sbsftw4232]

The thing that gets me is that you can tell when people talk about Asmon, they have no idea who Zack is as a person. I don't pretend to know him, but having watched him for this long, and watching his treehouse videos, he's a genuinely good guy and honestly wants the best for the game and the people that play it. For many of us, WoW was just a second neighborhood that we grew up in, and to see it turn into this shell of what it was when we were younger, it hurts. That's why people get emotional when it comes to this game. True friends stab you in the face, not behind your back, and that's why we never back down from trying to make this game and community the best it can be.

[@bodybuilder6350]

I love asmon. he never lies. only straight facts!

[@jasongeorgiades4787]

Wow should be let go. Time for a new game. I'm never going back. Shadow lands was a waste of money

[@Sylentmana]

Love Asmon’s unwillingness to back down. Never back down or apologize.

[@whiskeySe7en]

That's a stupid fucking motto.

[@Raumplestomp]

Never back down? Asmon apologizes when he is wrong.

[@suspiciousmushroom2921]

Never apologize? Wow u must be a really nice person 😂😅🤣

[@northwestclasspnw7974]

He knows when he's wrong and he's willing to apologize. But when he knows he's right there's nothing that can move him other than some piece of truth he didn't know.

[@Neopolitan420]

It's 'never stop going big dick'.

[@Vod_MacDuff]

I can relate to his story about using up all your luck, and almost getting caught. Back in the day, I would run a Mephisto bot on Diablo 2 while asleep and at school. My friend who gave me the bot got hit in a ban wave of hundreds of thousands of accounts, but I did not. Stopped using the bot immediately, lol.

[@Neuromonada]

I am so happy, you have grown on the Internet. I remember really disliking you when you were a smaller youtuber, possibly even hating you, I despised your videos, but the more of your current content I watch, the more I think you are more real and more standing firm on the ground than 90% of people I know. I am genuinely happy that you succeeded in your life.

[@luketfer]

It is quite funny to see Asmon having changed over the years. When he first started out he WAS a toxic asshole BUT, like he said, he's becoming focused on being a better person. It's like the Blizzard devs and these people calling him toxic are basing their preconceptions on old Asmon. I'll admit, I was one to do that too when he mentioned trying FF14 I was like "oh fuck...here we go..." but then I sat down and watched him stream it (with chat turned off) and it was the FF14 community that disappointed me so much more than Asmon did. Those assholes on their whale mounts, people constantly spamming effects because they didn't want 'him and his community' in their game. I began watching more of him and Rich and...yeah...turns out Asmon isn't the person he use to be years ago. Perhaps the Blizzard devs could look at Asmon as a story of character development...since they can't do it for their own characters without resorting to fucking awful writing...

[@MrBmantheman]

@@luketfer Disagree. He was never a toxic ass hole, but a big part of his public image was that brazen, unapologetic, opinionatedness. In reality most of it was a character, and still is to some degree.

[@MrBmantheman]

@@luketfer I also disliked Asmon at first but his personality is very deep. At first you would see that toxicity. But as you listen to him you realize that it's mostly for show and his real thoughts and opinions on things tend to skew more towards being positive and good. IMO being a good person who appears to be a dick is much better than being a bad person trying to appear good. We have lots of holier than thou people running around these days acting as if they're above certain others because of their beliefs and opinions when in reality a lot of them are cowards who would step on a homeless man's neck to reach the next rung in their social hierarchy

[@kingofth3fall392]

Honestly i really see eye to eye with this. The fact Blizzard responded in such a manner to you is unprofessional and ultimately hurts them even further as a company... And taking the personal attack route is just the easiest route in an argument whether the person is right or wrong... its a lame tactic.

[@Fransens]

"...and don't think for a second I am walking this back!" Based. Thats our boi! That's why we love you.

[@Kyle-xv5kv]

I love the irony in these tweets, twitter is literally an echochamber for some people to share in the collective fart sniffing. I'm with Asmon on this.

[@commonchannel3273]

“I don’t punch down, I don’t punch up, I punch back.” Gotta do what you gotta do

[@waldineytorres8578]

Self-defense is always morally correct, this is the neat trick about it.

[@Lagbeard]

Hey, what all of this means is that Blizzard and their defenders officially acknowledge that Asmongold has a bigger following than Blizzard. For Asmon and his community to make WoW's community toxic, it means they are the majority of the community.

[@williamk52]

And of course by toxic that mean disagrees with them in any way.

[@montaudon49]

I’m not an asmongold fan, but I stand by him on this one

[@NostraDavid2]

We appreciate it :)

[@camil-jr]

Same here

[@trvrt1cl3]

8:37 Asmon expecting his chat to know 5 women each

[@ArchieRatsworth]

I'll bet at plenty them are capable of staying civil enough in a discord group so they have 5 women they could ask.

[@wideboi5179]

"I'm not gonna high road anybody. If you take the low road, I'll meet you there." lol. Truly, it's my boi, Asmongold!

[@bigcharlie1411]

"If you take the low road, I'll meet you there" lol. You're the best, man

[@keirarez]

may i ask whats the meaning of that? im not an english speaker so i didnt understand

[@voidheir9793]

@@keirarez u talk shit, ill talk shit back

[@tsharpe4457]

@@keirarez taking the "high road" basically means he won't stoop to their level and be the "bigger person", taking the "low road" means he sure as fuck will stoop to their level and clap back lol

[@bigcharlie1411]

@@keirarez what voidheir and T sharp said

[@saysay8920]

Asmons been talking shit for 2 months straight what the fuck do you mean? The insuiation that this is even remotely worse than all the shit Asmon has said and there is now a new 'low road' is such bullshit lol.

[@Dinkminker]

Blizzard is pointing fingers like a child caught red handed...anything to reduce accountability lmao

[@jamends1220]

The irony in her saying "paper thinned skin" then tweeting a full fucking novel on how one guy pissed her off because he called a community she is part of "trash".

[@itsSmiv]

"I'm not gonna high road anybody. If you take the low road, I'll meet you there." Very well said.