Asmongold Reacts to The 14͏͏ Types of FFXIV Players (Social Hierarchy Explained)

Asmongold watches a video by Misshapen Chair, who breaks down the different kind of players you will encounter while playing this new MMO, ranging from Final Fantasy 14 normies to the most elitist FFXIV raiders, to Final Fantasy XIV RPers and more...
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[@Cahrub]

The most hardcore FFXIV player I've seen so far was someone who looked exactly like Snow White, had an apple/fainting emote and everything. I was extremely intimidated.

[@JrodG14]

@@bigbay1159 That shit is fucking hilarious

[@chloekaftan]

most of them only do that because they want you to see, before the wow exodus most ffxiv players were pretty laid back, but now they go out of their way to turn you into one of us 😁

[@JrodG14]

@@MrBraffZachlin You okay bud?

[@orionar2461]

@@JrodG14 well hes bot lying

[@tenkuken7168]

the strongest one is the peter griffin cosplayer

[@patti6178]

"if they manage to decorate their in-game house like this, their real life house probably looks like shit" -- don't you judge me

[@AC3handle]

Makes me wonder what their car looks like than.

[@Avatar_of_Chairness]

A box of Cheezits with 7 crackers in it, mismatched socks (numbers vary), a vacuum cleaner extension, usually a hose but no vacuum, and a trinket from some bar or con that they 'absolutely loved' but has been rotting on the floor since August.

[@jaeusa160]

Much like my real life house, my in-game house is really just a storage area for all the things I've accumulated. Unlike my real life house, my in-game house also glows pink at night from a half-dozen moogle trees.

[@joeyriddle428]

@@Avatar_of_Chairness very specific CHEERS 🎉👍😎👍🎉

[@MekareP]

Hahaha my in game house looks so good right now I'm going to decorate my irl house like it 😂

[@DallasX]

Lol Yoshida wouldn't fix Cyberpunk. he would cancel that shit and rebuild it from the ground up and call it Night City Reborn. xD

[@brick735]

That'd actually be sick though

[@NicolasMendoula]

Cyberpunk: a city rebuilt

[@ArchieGamez]

I mean in the lore the place got nuked once, might as well nuke it again hmm

[@ezekial7028]

I would totally buy a Cyberpunk game with Yoshi on the development team.

[@CommandoMaster]

Set it in the year 2177.

[@soundscape3065]

It's so true about the glamourers, and also about the free trial players. I have a friend who put over 1000 hours in the free trial. He already bought the game and shadowbringers, but he hasn't redeemed his code yet because there's STILL stuff in heavensward he wants to leech for free. Absolute legend.

[@one909]

Im basically not a good player, and never play MMO before, for last 2 weeks I max 6 job with 5 of them Range Job and 1 PLD. I still bad at this game so I play range because I can't dodge properly yet. I basically want to play until all available quest done and all Job got Max and most of Log complete (the one that possible without expansion) The downside is, I cant do gardening, I dont have retainer for my Disciples of Hand/Land item, I must keep spending money before it max....And I dont have friend. I wish I can do hard content but my ping and comp spec screaming no.

[@cr0sx90]

this is like me haha got very much around 350++ hours (played since Square enix implemented FT max level cap to 60) on free trial with all main class maxed except some crafter class and BLU, and finally i got graduated from that and redeemed my Complete edition code in this month, not a hardcore mmo or doing all the content available myself, i just hanging around, do DR (include DR frontline), collecting some glam, and other casual play, i just enjoy to being in game, even just AFK or sit on gridania chating and listen the ambient music. on that time, i feel like if i graduate from FT, i just dont enjoying thing like this anymore. i feels like i "forced" to do all the content and not laying around doing nothing because you pay the subs andd so, not a single money wasted.

[@soundscape3065]

@Bronze Wolf When did I say "a month" there?

[@Vengir]

@Bronze Wolf I think you are confusing the free 30 days that you get when you buy the game with the actual free trial that has all those memes about it (free without time limit, up to level 60, etc.).

[@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686]

@@Vengir welp I Know what MMO I'm going to try first on PC

[@DanSaffioti]

"You don't pay my sub." Absolute classic.

[@thickac7579]

Every mmo has them lol

[@andipants777]

@@thickac7579 ff14 is the first game ive heard of them

[@wanderingmiqote9606]

@@andipants777 ditto. I played wow for 15 years and never once heard anyone say it. Heard someone say it in FF14 in the first week I started playing

[@Asiankido]

@@wanderingmiqote9606 iirc the whole "You don't pay my sub" thing started with a reddit thread someone posted a few years ago telling a story of a rando they partied with that refused to heed advice and criticism. It caught traction and became a meme since then.

[@voldemort008]

@@wanderingmiqote9606 I'd be okay hearing it, just to know people actually talk in game lol. I've yet to see anyone speak outside of a couple people in dungeons in the week+ I've been playing.

[@anankha82]

"It's Ram Ranch? I didn't know that. How do you guys know that?" You know what they say: curiosity spreads the cheeks.

[@redgeoblaze3752]

the other answer is that the guy said it was Ram Ranch in the video, and Asmon just missed it.

[@grimmow187]

Kel'thuzad: Your curiosity will be the death of you.

[@Fant]

only true homies do roadtrips to ram ranch with mandatory stops on every roadside motel for ramming practice

[@Kamexe]

Inb4 he went through every ram ranch.

[@xensonar9652]

They do say that.

[@shadow0fx]

“I said ‘Every MMO needs a boob slider’ and NOBODY complained” Of course not. You’re right

[@zynix3698]

Butt sliders are neglected and it's truly sad.

[@shadow0fx]

@@zynix3698 True

[@mauree1618]

@@zynix3698 The saddest part about Female Rogaedyns is the flat butt.

[@redgeoblaze3752]

I can do without it in ToonTown online, or Wizard101 though.

[@shadow0fx]

@@redgeoblaze3752 Ah, fair enough. The 101 games are barely MMOs though. They’re cash vacuums with MMO mechanics

[@NauKuu]

As someone who has run dungeons and raids several hundred times over just to get a single outfit piece... Yeah, you learn that content. Then you optimize your play to do it faster to farm faster. THEN you start explaining mechanics and helping new players understand the content so you can finish runs smoothly. AND THEN you start making macros to explain the content even faster to optimize your teaching. You become a hyper optimized player AND teacher, for the sake of that ONE HELMET THAT STILL HASN'T DROPPED FOR ME THIS IS MY 98TH RUN AND IF I DON'T GET IT BY RUN 100 I WILL take a break and play some music in town, fish a bit, grind a bit in diadem, maybe do some Eureka or Bozja. Still gotta murder Rathalos more for that coat too... When players say Glamour/Transmog/Fashion is the true endgame, it always feels lighthearted and joking at first. A fun way to recognize people who have great outfits. But when you're a part of that endgame... You must ascend in order to achieve your outfit composition ideas. Oh god someone please help me I never have more than a few million gil on me. I can't stop spending it to get more fashion. I own every single outfit on the Mogstation/FF14 Store including both female and male variants, I fantasia every month just to wear more outfits.. Yoshi-P please... I need more room in my Glamour dresser, 400 slots isn't enough, my outfits are spilling into my retainers to the point where I had to buy more retainers... More Glamour plates, I will literally pay per slot for more... I already *CONSUME* Glamour prisms like water... Farming three to four sets of end game gear just so each class of their respective archetypes can have a unique outfit... I need to play something else for awhile..

[@willywithaw]

Truth

[@ZoraKurosagi]

You are a trooper

[@diskuslars7527]

Everytime i hear "Glamour is the true Endgame " i think: Ok..have Fun but God dammit stay away from Savage. Most of those Players are so Hardcorecasuals, so noobish. Maybe you are one of the few exceptions.

[@mrdoesmoe]

This reminds me of mabinogi when it was popular.

[@kupoe]

how are you so broke? I barely play and I have like 100m gil. what are you doing wrong?

[@Demkkai]

I give him 2 more weeks before he says “uwu” casually.

[@cooleroconnor1718]

lmao i would pay for that shit.

[@jamestomlin5525]

UwU

[@christopherjordan4495]

it only took me about a week and a half uwu \o/

[@LevaniaMeyano]

there's a fight called uwu, so its bound to happen.

[@Holyhallucin]

I play this game for a year now and i still don't know what that is xD

[@D3th10rd]

Clarification: Limsa Lominsa isn't the ERP hub, that dishonor goes to the Quicksand Tavern in Ul'Dah on Balmung. Regular RPers do not associate themselves with that garbage as it is the Goldshire Inn of FFXIV.

[@AftermathRV]

are you sure? because i once participated in an unwilling abduction due to Saturday night limsa being, well saturday night limsa. Also im pretty sure private brothel mansions on any data center are the true erp hub, tho i heard they no longer exist since those hotspots tend to get banned? sounds like a stupid rumor to me.

[@KevinSatron]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 im interested with this, please tell me more

[@Darteghoster]

I have seen a lot of RPer in New Gridania. I think they choose place at random

[@notnice8]

All rp in a mmo is haram

[@Reavyr]

QS on the RP servers Limsa everywhere else *and* the RP servers Balmung's got a funny shoutpost cult though :^)

[@MapoTofu24]

Video forgot the lore collectors - the completionists that 100% the game without skipping a single line of text. They’ve even analyzed every single UI element in search of hidden lore content. No player knows the game better than these Chads. They can even find their way through the settings menu. Think about that.

[@ash-gms4562]

he already mentioned them and he's right about their ego, their ego is so big that they don't even want to associate themselves with the plot dipshits, you're all the same shit.

[@MapoTofu24]

@@ash-gms4562 Not the same people. The video only mentioned those that play solely for the major plot beats. Big difference.

[@kzorander8577]

E T H Y S

[@BW-CZ]

Hell yeah. And we can understand Urianger!

[@ZoraKurosagi]

@@BW-CZ THIS LMAO

[@CulltureShock]

Basically at the end: "If you wanna be the Best player in the game, you'll have to look the part"

[@King-2077]

Rpers make the game alive too. They are like the bottom feeders of the sea, without it the whole ecosystem will crumble lol. Also, rpers make the world of the game alive. They crowd places and you see them conversing and doing weird stuff. Without that, the places would have looked boring and empty.

[@PrincessofKeys]

Im like rpers aren't bad in my opinion. Im nee to playing the game don't think I've seen any rpers personally but it seems fun in all!

[@williamcobbett4943]

cope

[@jamesmaclennan4525]

Oh the horror that people should RP in a RPG.

[@MrBraffZachlin]

agreed, rpers are the commodity that corporations can count on investing too much irl time and emotion into their game to ever leave moohoohahaha. you ppl think you left wow but you ran into the hands of another over lord is all. just a cute cuddly more gender neutral one is all, sorta looks like winnie the pooh

[@King-2077]

@@jamesmaclennan4525 not all rp’s are bad. Some people rp and immersing themselves in the world of ff14 like some people do mercenaries or group of adventurous making up their own little side stories. And I agree the worst rp is when it becomes sexual and weird.

[@Colaschnittchen]

Im not surprised Asmons „hearthstone“ is bound right next to a popular rp sexdungeon

[@christopherobrien8105]

That’s disgusting! Where is this rp sexdungeon so I know to avoid it?

[@SyaitanBDO]

@@christopherobrien8105 Lisa Lomasa i suppose?

[@TheNightsythe]

well theres like 3 starter towns based on class and limsa just happened to be it for him

[@felipevega484]

Sex cult confirmed

[@Colaschnittchen]

@@christopherobrien8105 where ever yashlota is

[@XionAvalonArcadia]

"Transmog is the true endgame of MMOs." Dear lord.... No one tell him about Phantasy Star Online 2.

[@SunGodNika69]

Hay there is a anime also called phantasy star online 2 😃

[@raiverns9620]

Shadow its a spinoff of the game

[@IAmKnightsDawn]

I love carrying 🌱 through dungeons as a healer or tank. They want to explore the dungeons and see the scenery half the time. I don't mind. Have at it young 🌱. Enjoy the game.

[@udinamursona1064]

the reason why chinese players are impatient is because they pay their subscription fee by the hour, every hour of gameplay is 50 cents, so ye that shit adds up very quickly

[@KevinSatron]

wait really?

[@udinamursona1064]

@@KevinSatron yes my cousins played during wrath, I watched them play when I was little, the system they have there links the account to their citizen ID cards so it tracks how many hours they played that month.

[@petree]

Sucks to hear but it's dope they get shit done. Get that mediocrity outta here lol

[@decemberferret]

@@udinamursona1064 interesting, I didn't know that. Not that it has any effect on me, just interesting

[@eternalvigilance5697]

@@PolyAndroidBenzene I always love my government telling me what to do and how to live.

[@nyxislost553]

Honestly I love having rpers around, even though I'm too shy and antisocial to RP myself. When you're not someone like asmon who will constantly have people around following him and interested in his every move rpers really make the world feel a lot more alive to me. Just having people gathered around having casual conversation, interacting with each other, and in general just having fun is great. Going from a non RP based server to a RP heavy one is like a whole new world. Even when I walk into a place and people are mid conversation it's just somewhat comforting knowing that there are things going on outside of just killing monsters. Honestly if it wasn't for rpers I'd probably have left the game a while ago because the world would just feel kind of dead

[@Cool3reeze]

That was something I noticed as well. In WoW Stormwind on Moon Guard is a really cool experience to go around and see all the different things going on that players are putting on.

[@mlt3496]

Tbh the ‘rpers’ he described in the video aren’t even really rpers.

[@Darteghoster]

Yeah, game feels alive. Thanks to them

[@floof4256]

@@mlt3496 yeah the video more specifically mentioned ERP

[@Reavyr]

I remember watching my friend when he started on Mateus (Crystal), going through Thanalan as a thaumaturge and every zone we'd spy at least one group of RPers hanging out and I think it honestly sold him on it even more, trying to kill ifrit and passing a pair of mages, heading to the Sylphs and passing a Keeper tribe.

[@terrybeaurone9052]

Can absolutely confirm the mentor thing. Got the status, was looking forward to venturing onward and helping sprouts. Joined novice chat and saw mentors acting like toxic children while sprouts were the ones helping other sprouts lol.. I keep my status hidden now. Also usually the ones acting like elitists. Its baffling. As if most of them just wanted the icon as a flex or something.

[@jaeusa160]

@6:35 Back when people died in Aurum Vale regularly, I often said that it was far easier with new players than veterans. Because the new players were timid and cautious, the veterans were arrogant and prone to overpulling.

[@viriatrix9874]

There is people now not wanting to burn Diabolos, a really nerfed boss :/

[@koncentra5767]

that is true but at least vets know when to eat the fruit most new players will listen when you tell them when to eat though, as long as you're patient with them

[@roetemeteor]

To be entirely Fair, the only dangerous part of the piss caves is the first room. It's very easy to kill in that room, but once you get past it, it's not that bad. Especially since they took away my main source of Fun by giving coin counter AOE markers. It was always great to watch the sprouty get struck by a hundred tons swing

[@apachers2807]

Misshapen chair is the fucking best lmao. Asmon should totally watch his Wumbo warrior guide

[@k33mal]

hot take: Misshapen chair is basically cr1tikal of FFXIV

[@yordleirl5642]

@@k33mal he kinda reminded me of like a mix between cr1tikal's way of talking with the editing of sseth

[@Lakanus]

man hes gonna love that

[@tokiri5680]

such kindess, much forgiving

[@TWILIGHTQUEEN]

This speaks to my soul, I know plenty of Mentors who are legitimate mentors that hide their crowns for this very reason.

[@VampireSultana]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 I do too. When I’m done my weeklies, or even when I’m in a group of sprouts, I make it my duty to help and teach ☺️

[@VampireSultana]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 Very true, but I usually always want to help everyone I come across :]

[@vampjoseph]

There are exceptions to every rule but almost every mentor I've ever met in the wild has been the biggest and most toxic piece of trash in any party I've been in.

[@VampireSultana]

@@vampjoseph I usually report the Toxic ones. Lol they don’t deserve their crowns.

[@davidbrooks2872]

Yeah I hide my crown a lot sadly 😥

[@obe22099]

"Tanks don't have to dps" - Random Mentor

[@nokturnallex2160]

Yea sadly the people that are drawn to the "Mentor" role are players who want the prestige but don't necessarily know how to play the game lol. I've seen sprouts with better knowledge of fights because they actually do their homework and watch a video before queuing.

[@rustyjones7908]

-me as a Dark Knight: Ha ha darkside go brr

[@axis1247]

The Gunbreaker who used a level skip just to get the class. "So do I just not press buttons?"

[@TheRedMage01]

laughs in gunbreaker

[@obe22099]

@@AuspexAO The tank stance not penalizing output damage is relatively new.

[@kuyt20]

"You don't pay my sub." "Well, neither do you. You're playing the free-trial."

[@shybandit521]

God Misshapen Chair is fucking HILARIOUS. He's like the FFXIV version of Asmon, before Asmon came to FFXIV.

[@miqotesoulia8620]

I can see that, but he is his own. when this vid first came out it was already popular in the reddit I thought. Good for him getting all these subs.

[@shybandit521]

@Norman Freeman oh true!

[@boomkruncher325zzshred5]

You know, “glamour” just sounds better than “transmog” for a description of changing the appearance of your gear. FFXIV is… GLAMOROUS!

[@rustyjones7908]

I guess "mog" wouldn't work lol.

[@randomusername707]

You must not be a Calvin & Hobbes fan.

[@scoobiusmaximus9508]

Which may in fact be the only thing better about the XIV Transmog system. If they keep the name glamour but then rip the entire transmog system off of WoW it would be a massive improvement. I'm not saying the appearance of gear btw, I like the way XIV gear looks better, but I also have to pay real money to get extra storage to keep all my glamour because the system is terrible.

[@YazzPott]

@@scoobiusmaximus9508 yup. And sadly they just rejected the idea of adding glamour log AGAIN.

[@absintheminded866]

I mean, the word glamour also means a magical appearance

[@ObscuredByTime]

I started playing FF14 and came to the realization that age and health has finally caught up with me big time, and I can't handle raiding at all. The good news is I'm finding that I barely have to fight at all to have a good time in this game. Crafting in this game is gonna be enough for me. It's actually damned good.

[@kneeslappin4581]

how old are you if you dont mind me asking? Im 22 and wondering if im getting too old for games, although I still have so much fun. I play in healthy amounts.

[@ObscuredByTime]

@@kneeslappin4581 52

[@romanbloomfield9066]

@@kneeslappin4581 most of my classic wow guildies are in their 40s+ bro, there's no such thing as too old for games. That's like saying you're too old to read a book

[@eve_______]

What kind of pve game requires top physical athletic ability just to function

[@ObscuredByTime]

@@eve_______ It's more about mental acuity and reaction time

[@ramenslaw326]

Lost it on his story about raids with Chinese people "this dude if he is going to his LAN café he is not gonna have his time wasted by some god damn piece of shit in England sipping a cup of tea, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO WAR"

[@MrDAVIDGBJONES]

Lmao same, litteraly got to your comment split second after watching that part lol

[@PersonalityWorship]

He forgot about the hidden elite who are above all others. The mahjong gang.

[@theprogram1950]

THIS

[@wilkinlow]

Still have no idea how it works until this day and I'm not gonna touch it

[@future09021]

Lmao Dan 3 here

[@lebanc571]

I didn't even know mahjong was in this game, that's how exclusive the society is.

[@randalica92]

@@wilkinlow played it in the Yakuza games, still don't have a grip on basic strategy

[@joshthehomesteader229]

That last one was so great, Ihad never thought of glam being so involved in everything

[@saltfah1987]

Glamour is the true endgame of FFXIV

[@Kirusei]

Even in games that aren't exactly MMO, transmog is endgame Literally spent over 2000 hours on Xenoblade Chronicles X

[@miguelcom13]

in every online game the end game is always cosmtic and to gaing the higher level cosmetic you have to be good at the game

[@joshthehomesteader229]

@@miguelcom13 the only online game I have endgame experience with is Ark survival evolved and it is just grinding.... from starting alone till your tribe controls multiple servers just grind grind grind lol part of the reason I'm looking forward to starting FFXIV it will be a nice calm friendly experience compared the the offline wiping pvp hell hole I'm coming from

[@miguelcom13]

@@joshthehomesteader229 thats a survival games, thats the end game until the server is wipe, but in most online games the end game is cosmetic, in pso2 is fashion, in league what you gain atfer gaining gold rank is a skin and a border, in valorant you after gold you gain a badge and a gun budy, in sea of thieves literally all the gold you gain is to get more cosmetic, etc

[@burningflag3679]

"Every game needs a boob slider. I was surprised no one complained." Here's the thing. Players asked for a bigger bust slider. Got it. Then asked for a butt slider. So yeah of course nobody complained.

[@spike5062]

@@largecoffee9934 only thing I'll use one of my collector's edition Fantasia's for.

[@user-pj1ec5om5g]

But slider? Meh. Thigh slider though… now that’s what’s needed!

[@bellamango6708]

@@user-pj1ec5om5g thighlanders ftw

[@Noryll1327]

If I'm not mistaken, Yoshi actually responded to the request for a butt slider. I'm pretty sure he said it would be difficult to implement with the current way gear is modeled and other systems, so that's why the 2B pants were designed with the larger ass for your character, so players can have that as an option in some form.

[@burningflag3679]

@@Noryll1327 lol yep. Really respected his answer. Because it means they at least tried to do it.

[@peytonibarra8992]

The funny part is that Asmon is technically the top 1% in WoW. He will run the same instance a billion times just to get a single mount. Madlad.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Not even lying, it's pretty nice hearing there's such dedicated crafters in game. Eventually I'd be honored to join their ranks as a crafter/forager/farmer/hunter/etc.

[@Aniaas1]

The guy is complaining about the wrong thing - crafting isn't a pyramid scheme, it's a bait & switch. You want to be a master weapons smith? Great! There's the blacksmith's guild. Of course, you won't just need that class, you'll need carpenter, alchemist, leatherworker and weaver to make the ingredients for the weapons. In FF14 you're an omni-crafter because all gearsets usually need almost all crafts (Except Culinarians - they live in their own special recipe bubble). Source: I'm an omni-crafter salty about being sorted below returners.

[@kevinkertarahardja1836]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 if they just could give y axis.

[@Aniaas1]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 It's ok, I'm enough of a glamour crafter that I can promote myself a fair ways up :P

[@jamestomlin5525]

@@Aniaas1 niiiice! It's hearing stuff like this that makes me want to try ff14 more and more as I love the profession grind, hearing you can do it all on the same character is just awesome. Lol not really worried about it being a 'pyramid scheme' or what have you I genuinely enjoy gathering mats. What is the economy like in game? Is there like a trade chat? Can you become a merchant, and have like a booth and sell your goods?

[@Aniaas1]

@@jamestomlin5525 No booths as such - you have retainer characters (effectively your item bank) that can sell items on the market board. The economy is fairly simple, you can make some money by making High-Quaility (HQ) levelling gear, or by selling crafter-only glamour gear. Personally, I use it for levelling secondary classes - since the MSQ only gives you gear for your main class and I refuse to level up looking like a hobo with mismatching dungeon drops

[@BadaBadger]

There’s an unusual eldritch of a player Ive recently ran into. Roleplayers that actually raid…

[@MrJesuisOMG]

Hey, that's me!

[@kevindelgado1459]

good lord the ancient seal must have broke

[@Eppon6]

Depending on the person, that could either be a normie player who branches out in rp to keep busy between challenges, or the larval form of a glamour player, seeking to look as fly as possible while emoting. Actually quite common.

[@jariu9612]

@@Eppon6 I wouldn't say they are common, it's just that they play the game so much you are bound to see them often if you hang out at relevant content hours.

[@NixViche]

I do whatever it takes to get my glam item so I can rp looking fly as fuck

[@hwb929299]

As a Chinese guy, I totally get Asmon's story on that Chinese raid experience LOL. "Why do you play the Karazhan raid if you are not graduated from Karazhan?" The Classic.

[@evandavis5223]

"Some guy in England sippin on a cup of tea." Josh Strife-Hays: OI!!!!

[@umbralflow6883]

The good mentors took off their crowns after the surplus of bad mentors came.

[@budakbaongsiah]

The worst stream snipers of Asmon's first day in FF14 are crowned mentors, apparently.

[@stormkeeper1741]

Exactly! Accidently left my crown on once and felt incredibly self conscious.

[@ultimatecalibur]

A good mentor dislikes the crown icon and really wishes it was a watering can.

[@ygnizemcenia6059]

I only got mentor so I can join back to NN after my sprout expired. First thing I asked after I rejoin was how can I replace the crown icon into a sprout.

[@mainspringeverwound]

Sprouts don't usually know any better- I keep mine on so they know they can ask me stuff, it happened several times. Also to defy the expectations of randos in DF. In a way, good mentors who hide their crown enable and perpetuate the reputation mentorship has

[@Denamic]

After a while, you just get numb to all the people petting each other while unironically using 'uwu' in a sentence

[@jamestomlin5525]

uWu

[@lucidstrife7939]

What is uWu?

[@user-bf7sl3uo9p]

Never really understood it, I've only seen that expression on porings I killed on Ragnarok Online

[@jamestomlin5525]

@@lucidstrife7939 basically saying it's 'awoo' It's cutesy furry talk

[@lucidstrife7939]

@@jamestomlin5525 ohh ok

[@apex3606]

The problem with mentors is that they become so jaded whilst farming the mount. Sprouts can be real assholes too, and I imagine after 300+ mentor roulettes it begins to eat away at your soul. Would not recommend that shit to anyone.

[@Angarato86]

the problem with mentors is that the crown is made of led and they all have brainrot

[@damir_van_kalaz]

The bit about mentors is too true. In the nearly 8,000 hours I have put into this game, I have seen maybe 3 mentors that actually were respectable players. The vast majority do half the work other players put in, don't understand even the most simple mechanics, and somehow play their class worse than the players who skipped the entire leveling process by spending money, all the while they remain completely silent when a new player asks for advice, leaving a non-mentor player in the party to explain things instead, because unlike the average mentor, they actually know what the hell is going on. And then there's the real special mentors. The ones that not only suck at the game, know nothing, and help no one, but also play healer only to rush ahead of the sprout tank at every single opportunity, demanding they speed up. Even if you go at the fastest speed possible, it's not fast enough for them, because they don't understand the game enough to know that the tank actually can't just run forward non-stop, especially WARs, who don't have an oGCD AoE to catch additional mobs with whenever Yoshi P decides a dungeon's mobs should be impossible to hit all at once with just one GCD, or that they should take a moment to fully spawn before you can actually hit them and hold aggro. These are the mentors that use rescue as part of their normal rotation, use damage spells as often as WoW gets content updates, get passive aggressive when new players make mistakes, pressure sprout tanks to pull harder than their gear can actually handle and get the party wiped as a result, and for some reason always show up as either a half naked catgirl, or a lala in the most "UWU so cyute" outfit they could find on Eorzeacollection and throw together in 10 minutes or less. The only reason they're even playing healer is because it gets them the fastest possible queue on mentor roulette, which they are only doing to get a mount so they can have something other than just their crown icon to boost their fragile ego. Should mentor roulette queue them into EX content, they will stay just long enough to see if the party can carry them, and if the party wipes, they will immediately leave, often choosing to spend the penalty duration RPing in Limsa until they can queue into another party of unfortunate players who have been randomly selected to be the next stepping stone on their path to the mount. If this specific brand of mentor chooses to play tank instead, do not bother praying, god cannot save you from their on-cooldown provoke because they believe their crown, gaudy resistance weapon, and ability to turn the boss into a beyblade means that they are a better tank than the other tank in the party that was actually handling the fight correctly until the mentor took control.

[@damir_van_kalaz]

@Sonic Mobian It's not that mentor status corrupts people who get it. The people who are awful mentors were already awful players before they got the mentor status. It's not that mentor status turns good players into bad ones, it's that the mentor status tends to attract all the worst people in the game's community. Like you just said, you don't need the mentor tag to teach people. Normal people help other players all the time, the only ones that pursue the mentor tag are the people that want to have an icon that makes them feel superior to everyone else around them, even though what it's meant to suggest about them doesn't actually apply - they're not helpful. I was not expecting the out of left field RWBY reference, but putting that aside, mentor status kind of is just a glorified title. You can get it with relatively little effort and/or any real game knowledge, as you really only need 1 DPS, 1 Healer, and 1 Tank at level 90, 1,500 commends, 1,000 duty clears, and, if you want to do Mentor Roulette, all non-savage and non-EnW EX content unlocked and cleared, which is a lot easier to get than it may sound. You can get both DPS and healer at the same time just by leveling SMN or SCH, as leveling one will level the other, and then you can pick up GNB and skip 60 levels of the tank leveling process as well. People tend to commend healers a lot more than they do DPS, so just play the game as SCH and by the time you reach level 90 you'll already have a pretty good chunk of the commends you need. If you do your duty roulettes every day, then, coupled with playing through the MSQ, you'll probably have almost all of the 1,000 duty clears you need, if not all of them by the time you reach the end of the EnW story quests. If you still need some duty clears and/or commends though, you can just farm the first guildhest over and over as SCH. You don't even have to do anything, you can just let Eos do all the healing and generally you'll still get 2-3 commends by the end of it. Most players end up meeting the requirements for mentor status without even intentionally working toward it. There's no review process that gets you approved, just a set of arbitrary and easily passed requirements you need to meet. There's no system in place to ensure that mentors are actually helpful or even decent at the game themselves. That said, it's exactly like you mentioned - players are given no reason to bother asking mentors for help. Even most new players at this point know that the average mentor is not going to help them even if they ask, and the ones that don't know very quickly find out.

[@influentialdetour]

finally he reacted to a Misshapen Chair video let’s goooo

[@Ajkkl21]

Returning player here. I felt like I had no clue what I was doing in my 'at level' content anymore, so I am just playing through the game again with a new character to relearn everything xD

[@JJellMeister]

WeskAlber is the only class guide person i can legitimately watch. Incredibly informative

[@dangerwarg9682]

Yes. Mentors are so bad, you'll be praised for doing your job because of how almost all of them DON'T. When someone expressed their gratitude for having guided the newbies through the Aery and how mentors don't normally do that, I dropped out of the mentor program. The Astrobe mount is not worth it.

[@TheFalazure]

I am a mentor myself and to shed light on why a lot of us older types keep our mouths shut most of the time...people get really ignorant when you try to help them, you get that "you don't pay my sub" bullshit or they are unresponsive to advice, or otherwise shit on you for it...so most of us suffer through the bad play...if asked i am happy to help, otherwise deal with it, and as a mitigator of putting up with the worst "you don't pay my sub" types, I tank so i don't have to see idiots running around mobs in circles while tanking...

[@dangerwarg9682]

@@TheFalazure You'd be better off as a healer. That way no cure 2 panic spamming or glare spamming dipshit can turn what would have been 30 minute slog into an hour all because some moron taught that dipshit how to be shit at the easiest, least challenged job in the game.

[@Lowezar]

Yeah, you can still "mentor" without the crown. Didn't drop out myself, though, I like the roulette that can drop me into a random extreme from time to time. Unfortunately it also forces a crown on my head for that run, but oh well. Necessary evil. :) Also usually going tank or DPS. I agree with going as healer would probably be safer/faster, but I heal for our static so these random roulettes are a way to play something else.

[@emiwiaffxiv776]

Can confirm, currently progging ultimates for glamour

[@hirokjyotideka5571]

Agree with No. 1. Every MMO game gets their charm from fashion/cosplaying guys, gives them identity.

[@kanrath2301]

I'm honestly surprised at the hostility to new players. They are the ones that keep the numbers growing and fill in the openings left every time someone on your main raid team leaves the game.

[@iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis]

I know for a fact the second I lose my sprout i will practically freeze in fear. No more excuses for being bad, no more asking questions and expecting to be answered, and dear god if i start getting blamed for people dying o.o

[@brandonmurray204]

My sister is the person who would emote for hours/bank stand in RuneScape 3 that’s also the same type of person to get 120 defense and 120 mage and 120 health by barraging the abyss creatures for literally months probably half a year

[@brandonmurray204]

@@kyero8724 not bottling and not afking she could definitely talk to anyone all day

[@brandonmurray204]

@@kyero8724 yeah she didn’t leave her room, she was probably 14-15 years old with 3-5 rs boy friends

[@TheRealChappie]

As someone whos been a mentor and savage raids its frustrates me that the other mentors have reached such depravity that we are viewed as scum.

[@WebweaverActualFiller]

Asmon watching misshapen chair is so good, I hope he watches the class/job guides they're so good.

[@JuliaJedi]

Lol I'm literally leveling my Dark Knight to level 80 to wear cool glamour, I don't even really like tanking, I didn't know I was at the top of the final fantasy 14 community

[@voilavoila196]

@Big Tatsu the sigmas

[@isaacxi3514]

He totally forgot the very top players. The players that can actually break the game. Walk on water, break through walls, swim in the sky, summon housing items in lower limsa. Sure breaking the game can be do easily if your using cheat programs. However doing it legit takes way more understanding of the game. There's so much out there to learn about the game its crazy.

[@jakeheape8349]

The crafting one had me rolling becuse I literaly peeped that pyramid sceam I'm waiting to do that last last lol

[@Kesvalk]

"do pvp just to glam" Wait, are there other reasons to PvP?

[@aegisofficial3819]

My main reason for doing The Feast every season is to be top 100, not just for the glam, but because I want everyone to know how much better I am than them.

[@itsatentaquil3152]

I play pvp just do have a minion others wont have.

[@katarh]

There's also rare titles, but that's just another form of glam.

[@De2t3ny]

@@aegisofficial3819 virgin

[@aegisofficial3819]

​@@De2t3ny You're half way correct, I haven't had sex in 3 years. So yeah, gotta show off my E-Peen

[@recjr7685]

I... I actually wanted to become a mentor! I spent the past few weeks power leveling different classes so I can do all the role quests and get enough player commendations to qualify, but I was going to take it super seriously. When I first logged in, there were so many veteran players who helped me out, teaching me mechanics and strategies, giving me Gil so I could afford better gear, all sorts of stuff, and I wanted to be a mentor so I could do the same for new players. But if having a mentor symbol next to my name means that no one will take me seriously and think that I'm some sort of troll, I don't think I want to...

[@thomsnvykovski6135]

I'd say do it. Somebody eventually has to do the dirty work of clearing Mentor's names. And I'm sure people wont be quick to forget that helpful mentor that was actually helpful. Especially if they are far in between.

[@Yuiiski-]

There's this one player on my server who literally just sits in Limsa, in the exact same spot, every single day for years, they're just afk all the time.

[@pyttpytts2690]

That's called a NPC - none playing character.... Right? =)

[@Itherael00]

Yay he covered Misshapen chair! His guides are great to start with too.

[@snaplash]

I never suggest stuff directly to players. When I see someone screwing up in a dungeon, I might say, without naming anyone: "If you get the red beam on you, run behind the pillar to remove it." I've never had any complaints when doing it that way, but the player starts doing it right.

[@OLBarbok]

Gotta love how asmon has been on the site for years but was always so deep into the WoW bubble in his own community that he doesn't know stuff like Ram Ranch haha

[@Nuinwing]

Just had the "pleasure" of meeting a mentor for the first time after 3 months of playing...I was tanking and he was the healer in a dungeon and while he was polite and friendly enough with his words, the tips he kept giving however were just common knowledge, like yes as a tank I know I can pull more than 2 groups, I just chose not to do so. What really annoyed me was him sprinting ahead and pulling mobs, now I'm a healer main and personally consider it very rude and disrespectful towards the tank to even walk ahead of the tank in a dungeon. Tank sets the pace, healer makes sure the party stays alive and dps produce lots of big numbers, simple as.

[@TheRealMrJester]

2:19 lmao asmon was thinking alright I know where to go off stream then

[@Riine]

The channel from this video now has 21k subs. Gratz man

[@bamsgirl12345]

I'll just say that i usually afk in limsa before I log off because I like how much is going on. All the live music, And occasionally some nice person will come up and give me something. it just warms my heart. Not everyone is a digenerate in limsa lol

[@JamieBarrington]

Limsa is fine. It just looks like a fashion show social to me. I got gear shamed the other day, because I was basically wearing slops, which I thought was hilarious. They're cool for the most part though. It's always lively with people playing music and running around the Aetheryte

[@roguenpc5574]

Haha reminds me of this one samurai while doing my dailies. Would never use his aoe skills so the run lasted longer than it was supposed too. I asked him if he could use his aoe and he said, "it'll go by faster if I focus on one at a time" 🤦‍♂️

[@FlaVaChAsA]

So I usually take months off and tend to miss major changes but I always make sure to let people know if I'm unfamiliar with mechanics and I always let them know if I'm trying to experience a dungeon for the first time. After that first run of a new dungeon I always study up.

[@ThisOrThat13]

16:02 that's me! Got my White Mage almost to lvl 40, along with all available DoL and DoH. I never have any free storage space sadly. Been playing about 3 weeks so far.

[@malifex9922]

I like to think of this breakdown like the circles of Hell. You're guilty of something. It just remains to be seen where you end up.

[@Bopoeoaelic]

When I started playing this game I spent about an hour just sitting in my starting area watching some bards do there thing. And /clap-ing, I am no monster. It was great.

[@BigPapaSpeedwagon]

I called out the limsa crowd a few days ago and the first thing someone hit me with was “YoU DOnt pAy ThEiR sUB”. Like cmon man you are paying to stand in one spot for a week straight and do nothing,not talking to anyone,locked on to your minion. I bet the one guy I was talking about is still fucking there he’s been standing there for a week and a half and I know he doesn’t log out cause I can log in at various times in the day and he would still be there. It’s like he died at the keyboard.

[@chloekaftan]

6:20 you say that but i only ever really avail the returners gift to get that sweet exp boost, plus getting access to the novice network (since that is literally the only global chat the game has and the only other way to access the novice network is by becoming a mentor)

[@valack03]

try playing old school FFXI. that was hardcore. I died as a tank so many times in a group I LOST 4 levels. had to go back a zone to recoup some XP.

[@spaceboundrhino3246]

As a mentor, this video is completely and absolutely accurate. I’m a mentor because I enjoy helping my fellow sprouts. Mentors helped me, so I enjoy paying it forward. But oh so many mentors just want that golden crown, and when they get it, they go mad with the perceived power.

[@MrJonboy]

I've played ff14 for around 2 years and on and off before that, maybe i've been lucky but in the past 2 years the ONLY person to leave my dungeon group halfway through because we wiped 3 times on a boss because the sprouts were still learning, was a mentor, most of them just use the tag to get quick groups it seems, incidentely a new player joined and after i explained the tactics to the sprouts we got it down first time.

[@DarthZ01]

Got my first taste of being a glamourer last week. Decided to grab a gear set from a level 50 raid, took forever to get all 5 pieces. Must have run that raid a dozen times, had every single mechanic down and was at a point where I was doing multiple peoples' jobs when they got things wrong. I had the luxury of it being old, easy content on duty finder, I can only imagine trying to do that on current content savage difficulty or god forbid an ultimate.

[@Desmont123]

As an interior decorator and full-time glamour composer, this makes me happy.

[@TheHeartThatRunsCold]

Collecting Every Transmog/Mount really is the modern equivalent of collecting Every Star in Super Mario 64, except you can spend your entire life doing it.

[@yammez1]

It's true. I've played Dun Scaith so many times to get the Caster gear. I'm so good at that raid now, I still die because I still don't know what that spooky hand status effect does. Didn't even like the glam in the end too.

[@cortexauth4094]

18:30 I have not played FFXIV yet since my computer is not powerful but I enjoy the music and I have noticed that SO MANY times already lmao

[@zavi3rz]

He missed one really important group though… The music players.

[@absintheminded866]

Eh RP

[@funnyvalentine6670]

The music boosts morale after a raid after a few wipes, nothing beats that feeling after coming back and hearing someone playing LoZ music on a Lute

[@-El.Inexperto]

you mean bard players? haha

[@JesziePVP]

"it's worse when somebody has done something before and thinks they know what they are doing when they don't over somebody who just doesn't know what they are doing" THIS APPLIES TO ALL LIFE

[@esmolol4091]

There's one more group. The completionist who did EVERYTHING, just stand around somewhere in their shiny armor waiting for someone who asks for help, and one second later, they let you hop into their flying car and show you the wonders of the game, blowing your mind with one interesting thing after the other, bury you in crafted gear and minions that they present to you as if you are billionaire in a car shop. They are Bruce Waynes and Tony Starks that makes miracles happen in an instant.

[@wearex1992]

I was joining an extreme trial yesterday and two mentors show up. After the first attempt failed two of them just left without saying a word. Turns out we have to wait another 30 mins for a healer to join and we succeeded at the second attempt. Mentors should get a license before getting the title.

[@AleXannon92]

chat spamming o/ was too good. it's so true lmao

[@jbinfa7k]

There is a type of players that is trying to repeat/rerun their WOW life in FFXIV.

[@BWA85]

We have a bar next to our FC house in the Lavender Beds. It's a max size fully decked out Bar/Restaurant. Some people have way too much skill/time

[@xXGhostStalker]

Mentors really depend on the server. Are there mentors that are total trash? Yes. Is every mentor trash? No, there are as many great mentors as there are bad just like there are good and bad sprouts. Bundling every single mentor with label "bad" is a little unfair

[@ZoraKurosagi]

Very unfair but then people will come in here and say “relax he was joking, but most was true” and that’s just cap because I believe he genuinely meant every word and more or less laid out that mediocre hierarchy well.

[@unlucky8888]

Kinda Odd Asmon doesn't know Ram Ranch, I thought 90% twitch viewers/streamers back in the day knows it.

[@Giliver]

Right! I recognize the song immediately now.

[@Aj9Livess]

He knows it, it's just been banned on twitch for a long time so he's likely forgotten about it 🤣

[@anantchakravorty2522]

@@Aj9Livess asmon was banned from twitch?

[@Aj9Livess]

@@anantchakravorty2522 nooo The song lol

[@alexandredauphole5755]

To be fair Asmon was introduced to gachi rather late

[@Joeyfield0]

it's one thing for asmon to get called out, but asmon to call out about half his chat, nice.

[@erdnuzz8368]

Savage Raiding, Housing Ultimate - that my jam. Walking around the servers and making hours and hours of home-design for other is a passion and the biggest time-eater next to Savage raiding. Now i just need to get to the point to run the ultimates and im happy as a Ronka in water.

[@flipthecat]

I'm a crafter 😭 I love it, not for money but it's just fun to do but instances give me anxiety, so I beg my friend who never touched a craft and has every class maxxed to run me through dungeon and I make whatever he wants, hell I'll even get the mats. It's a mutual relationship 😂

[@Rob6990]

Mentors just play so much they've dragged themselves through x amount of dungeons and are the last possible person to vote for to get your own achievements

[@ablynn_thegalewinds]

You know I'd like to be a normie instead of a plot-watcher but... * sobs in "i'm in college i'm broke i sub like twice a year to catch up on story and maybe get some alternate classes leveled if I have playtime left over send help *

[@Nobody1707]

I have a separate FTP account for when I can't sub on my main one.

[@rangergamestudios3353]

10:45 "Beware the Sprout who doesn't wish to blossom"

[@s_guedes]

That random jab at Josh Strife Hayes....lol

[@KurvaNedaSeSemNicDat]

Glad to see myself on top of the hierarchy :D Farmed 20k wolf marks the other day just to get the right horns for my meme glam without doing any pvp before

[@Sasha-mb3rv]

Same I got hooked on pvp just because I wanted to look good

[@soltymc172]

i would say about 90% of the mentors are crap in my experience

[@righthandoftyr947]

Real mentors don't need an Icon by their name.

[@DoctorMcHerp]

The worst ones are the ones who get powertrippy in the novice network.

[@pascalheinrich3990]

I try to get Mentor status because I am helpful normaly and stay friendly. Except to Lalafell. But to or Three thing Made it hard for me. I need nearly still 1000 recommendations I am german and my englisch is not the best and I Play on ps4 so writing is slow.

[@Nixo66]

@@pascalheinrich3990 ps4 has mouse and keyboard support and it’s IMO a much better experience playing with mouse and keyboard try it out with a cheap mouse and key it’s super easy to set up

[@pascalheinrich3990]

@@Nixo66 I m not Used to this in rpgs. Never played one one a PC and so in keyboard

[@lifeonhigh851]

there was a person who literally meowed for Gil in limsa. limsa is so cursed and I love it

[@JamieBarrington]

Limsa is interesting. I still remember that one dude that ate a 999 eggs straight. That had to be hard

[@-SovietChan-]

Had a mentor player as a mage that tried to tank

[@Jozaros]

This is in crystal data center on the RP community, not on Aether DC

[@Nhyufll]

Chair plays on aether adamantoise its just worse on crystal than on other data centers

[@Longlius]

aether copium