Netflix Witcher Is Officially Dead | Asmongold Reacts

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[@FirstStrikeJAS]

the second they got rid of henry they should have used their collective 5 braincells at netflix and realized no one is gonna watch this without him

[@logirex]

That is funny since nobody is watching his movies. Last two was catastrophic failures and he even managed to tank Superman 🤢

[@chuckchan4127]

​@@logirex lmao the cringe

[@mandogundam5779]

Interesting, so you just happen to know every person that watches movies and also know that they are not watching any HC movies?

[@Zoyanold]

​​​​@@logirex Still this is one of the reasons. But my opinion is that: if they adapted story properly and added thier own story/spice/agenda or whatever on the side, then maybe would have fine overall. Problem is that they prioritize thier own B.S more than actual story. It would have just declined slowly instead of just falling from the sky.

[@yewtewbstew547]

@@logirex Nobody is really watching any movies though. Cinema, and by extension the box office, never fully recovered from the coof lockdowns. Combine that with most movies releasing now being complete trash, and it's pretty much a dying business.

[@gcelite36]

They should've listened to Cavill. Good riddance.

[@TJPranksNet]

haha

[@logirex]

Funny since everything Cavill touches turns to dust. His latest two movies will cost the studios hundreds of millions.

[@PandarenCH]

they are brainwashed by the woke. They are not able to use their brain.

[@carmineglitch]

Yeah its cause the producers and writers work in their own vaccum. They believe their own bias' and ideals, so you tell them something different they think your stupid. Hollywood is dead and won't change till these people lose many millions more and its all under new management

[@streetside2833]

They hated him because he was right and they knew it. They didn't respect games as a valid medium for storytelling and ended up screwing up Netflix's entire planned universe because they couldn't be humble. This could have been their game of thrones and it was easy. Use the visuals from the games and the writing from the books. They fucked up something that was unfuckable

[@samuelgelinas6855]

- Making a serie about a beloved serie of books. Check. - Hiring a writer that hates the source material. Check. - Make nobody read the books and source material. Check. - Fire the passionated people that work on the project. Check. - Still hire writers that have no experiences and hates the source material. Check - Create god aweful ideas and do not following the source material. Check. - Push your political agenda. Check. - Celebrate failure and blame the fans. Check.

[@yimwee2401]

I'm fine with them blaming the fans. If we don't like it, we won't fucking watch it. End of story.

[@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut]

I just know that every single person working on this, voluntarily spends multiple hours of their day self- satisfiedly(is that a word?) reading witch hunt threads of their favourite twitter echo chamber.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

Cancel Culture at work.

[@lacker101]

And they paid MONEY to the rights for this. Jesus what a colossal waste. This and Halo.

[@SkrzekuZenmasters]

- Making a series about a monster hunter Geralt. Check - Making it so there is less and less monster hunting each season and Geralt is less and less of a main character. Check

[@kylemundy8871]

It's not that we wanted Henry, it's that Henry was the canary in the coal mine. He kept telling them to just keep it to the source material. They refused. It's all we wanted.

[@JUST-IN-HORA]

Yup that’s why he left. And I respect him for that. Also those who don’t know Henry Cavil is a big warhammer 30k fan and he plays. :)

[@nickDasgunnar]

@@JUST-IN-HORA And he will probably will also have to dropp the Amazon WH40k because of this. It is reported that he is also in conflict with Amazon as they want him to make female astartes etc...

[@asir9129]

@@nickDasgunnar damn ain't no way that's a thing

[@genevievec.8002]

To be fair, I also think Cavill did an amazing job as Geralt because he was a fan, but I agree. If he left on good terms and happy with the direction, having a new actor could have worked. But the direction of the show was trash and he knew it just like we did.

[@kylemundy8871]

@@genevievec.8002 100%. Henry was the best casting choice for that role.

[@MrLuao]

Instead of going full polish medieval lore, paired with monster slaying they went full American tumblr tier.

[@KoXlm4t3k]

Based

[@nicknevco215]

The Author pushed this he turned lucas don't give a sh!t

[@matthewhedgepeth398]

​@nicknevco215 pretty sure the author has little to do with anything outside of the writing of the books.

[@wickian9571]

Are you trying to say that writing fanfiction and making close friends hate each other and sidelining the main character isn't good writing? Or are you trying to say that race swapping characters isn't a well loved tradition? What? You want to see the Witcher go fight monsters? No we need soap opera drama with characters you don't like but we really want to push.

[@StackingGains]

That's where they got their writers from

[@TheToastyy]

Expected it when they refused to get rid of incompetent writers; they were actually sitting on a goldmine and just threw it away

[@PumpkinHoard]

It was doomed to fail. Their initial casting was for a BAME Ciri, regardless of the VAST changes needed to the setting to make that work.

[@zuriyel5368]

Instead they threw away Beau DeMayo, who spoke out about how the writers actively disliked The Witcher. Meanwhile, we've seen what DeMayo's done with X-Men '97.

[@talesofgore9424]

reverse midas touch leftists lol

[@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc]

@@PumpkinHoard I thought the actors for ciri and yen were miscasts although as time has gone by I have become fond of them. It's too bad.

[@nlingrel]

It's worse than that. They purposefully destroyed it. It's the same pop-cultural vandalism that's been happening for a while.

[@evilhobocheeky1280]

Bro, they did Eskel and Vesemir so dirty. In the games he was such a great fucking character. Yeah he was a dick some times-- but he always had a proper head on his shoulders. And Vesemir? He was practically Geralt and Ciri's father figure. And they turned him into schizophrenic old man. Wtf Netflix

[@seafatt]

Blame (Lauren Schmidt Hissrich) the producer and screenwriter of the show. Blame her instead of just Netflix a brand name that is faceless.

[@SageLykos]

Oh as a book fan it makes me die inside

[@BoredInTheComments]

​@seafatt Netflix hired her and green lit the ideas, so at the end of the day, it's on them. I do see what you're saying, though.

[@SageLykos]

@boredinthecomments I feel like they got bamboozled. Season 1 wasn't bad. Then it all went downhill. She probably inserted her agenda after the fact.

[@metalassassin8841]

@@seafatt Yeah, I still remember idiots saying her work is based on the books, d riding her :). Not sure what books they or she have read.

[@drawbyyourselve]

The funniest thing is that sapkowski wrote strong, compelling and intelligent women beacause he grew up with women picking up the slack as many, many men died in world war 2 and they did a damn good job. But apparently this is not good enough and they need to more like drama teens.

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

Goes without saying Netflix wasn't doing it to represent women in a bright light but to just show off that they have the power to change things and present them in THEIR own ways.

[@jakeclement6656]

I would say that that is the only thing the show does better. Yen carries the show at points and she does not have that page time. I hope that Milva gets good scream time next season because she’s the best.

[@kamilekzdun6929]

You're very much correct, there's just to many well written, gifted women in this universe that all the Hollywood writers should take example from the books to learn how to write "strong, independent woman" - Ciri, Triss, Calanthe, Milva, Nenneke, Meve and so on.

[@karolinakuc4783]

​@@GlassesnMouthplatesBut Yennefer very positive at the beginning of the novels because she is mean and vengeful but she helps Ciri heal and discover her feminity and never complains about what could have been always thinks of what can be done and that is why a lot respect her.

[@klaymoon1]

The director of Witcher was off from the start. I cannot understand Netflix always sided with her. She just didn't get Witcher. I think she was trying to make Outlanders.

[@Mvgical]

They dont give a fuck if movies or shows flop, their goal is to push agendas. They get paid more to push agendas then make media.

[@aedankor2961]

Woman + Progressive thinking ( imo the reverse tbh ) = failing up the ladder. Has been this way for a good 10+ years.

[@theworstcatholic7247]

@@aedankor2961 More so just identity politics but you're not incorrect.

[@newp0rt]

@@aedankor2961 honestly its netflix that does this more than any other platform and its not close. "woke" hollywood isnt even that common but almost EVERY SINGLE netflix production is focused around it.

[@sunderland666]

The biggest irony is, she was the one that told Henry about the books. Before that, he just loved the game and thought that books were some low quality game fanfics.

[@scubasteve2189]

Two things I just can’t understand: 1. You buy an IP because it’s so popular, then hire people who don’t want to do any of the things that made the IP popular. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 2. The people who made the decisions in #1 still keep their jobs and then do it all over again with another IP. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@drachenaura]

"Why are we losing subscribers? Better increase prices and produce more smash mouth!"

[@Overloaded45]

imo they actually doing this on purpose to willingly kill good IPs

[@poonpoon1604]

feel like asmon analogy about these writer being that bug alien from men in black 1 just expect people to go along with it still hold up now

[@iainansell5930]

yah, netflix are becoming the streaming version of fox channel, where great IP goes to get fucked up by clueless box ticking executives

[@CubiCNooBiC]

They have orders from the ESG to use IP's as propaganda tools... People come to watch something that they like but instead will get brainwashed

[@NikushimiDouble]

Sapkowski didn't say he hated the games, he said he never played them because he just doesn't care for video games in general.

[@kasagure.]

somehow, that's even worse.

[@30noir]

He was very disrespectful about them, I wish CDPR hadn't settled with him. He deserved what he got. The old jerk. CDPR made the Witcher a household name - Sapkowski did not.

[@NikushimiDouble]

@@30noir You're not wrong about the later stuff (as far as I know), but that particular statement was in fact mistranslated.

[@Pico141]

@@NikushimiDouble I'm Polish. Sapkowski said that he doesn't know many people who played the games because his circle of friends are intelligent people. He's known for being a jerk.

[@wiktoriajedrzejewska7287]

@@Pico141Mnie zawsze rozwala ten jego nacisk kiedy mówił, że ma ''ciekawsze, O WIELE CIEKAWSZE zajęcia, niżeli granie w gry'' xD

[@antonsundin2974]

"Lets buy the tv licensing rights for an ip because it's popular and then change the story and characters." Fucking brilliant.

[@oRnch199]

"Fan" fiction implies they were fans in the first place. They're explicitly against the fans and the lore. They literally said it on camera. Like most of our beloved IP's in the last 5-10 years. The creators actively hate the fan base and or the IP. Coming in wanting to do their own thing while wearing the IP as a skin suit. They actively tell actors to NOT read the source material.

[@everythingpony]

Source?

[@monkfishy6348]

It's Butcher Fiction.

[@3adgamd3r]

@@everythingponyit happened in the Halo TV show

[@David_randomnumber]

​@@everythingponyFor the "they shouldn't read the source material" there's a pretty famous interview with the Ciri actress.

[@Adanu191]

@@3adgamd3r They called the 'Halo' TV series the 'silver' timeline. Basically just an excuse to write bad fanfiction. Master Cheeks will be an infamous nickname for years to come.

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

Adapting the Witcher novels should’ve been the free-est slam dunk of all time.

[@Film_Sushi]

8 books. Then they could adapt games - the visuals are there, already premade... Instead, they felt like Blood Origins was the real deal... lol.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

That's the way it is with most novels.

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

@@TheForbiddenOne55 The Dune novels were notoriously difficult to adapt into cinema.

[@tnightwolf]

They are simply bad books

[@simonbelmont1539]

If the series were made in 2013, probably.

[@GravitasZero]

“30 characters that have no business still being in the story” I think we know why they are still here and it’s to check certain boxes if you know what I mean.

[@JeyesFluid]

When even the cast want it to be over...

[@bernhardlabus8511]

The Yennefer storyline was so hard to watch... - Doesn't get chosen as a mage, so therefore they refuse to give her the operation that makes her infertile but gives looks etc. - Refuses to accept that decision and forces someone to give her said operation, making her infertile - Spends the rest of the show complaining how the mages could do that to her, when we actually saw her doing it to herself with noone pressuring her into it or even wanting her to. How are we supposed to feel any sympathy for her at all with how the show handled her?

[@rubbishopinions6468]

Its amazing how unlikeable they made her while also making her the real main character.

[@timothyoreilly6571]

Yeah total bummer too bc the actress herself was really charming and good. They wrote her so badly.

[@David_randomnumber]

​@@timothyoreilly6571charming, yes but good? As an actress maybe but as Yennefer she was unfitting.

[@jpb2366]

WOMEN EMPOWEREMENT

[@kyledabearsfan]

This is modern feminism. Step 1 cry that you don't get something til you do. Step 2 cry that it didn't go your way or did go your way. Step 3 blame men anyway.

[@rx7what]

The one thing Yenifer wanted more than any other was a child. She spent decades trying to figure out how to have a child. Then Geralt gives her a daughter, the best gift she has ever been given. In the books its the happiest she has ever been and she will easily die or kill for her daughter. In the show she treats her like garbage and is going to sacrifice her to get her powers back? Its like they had no idea what the books were about.......

[@Senorbenignhillarity]

They probably do, the problem is they don't care. They thought they could do it better. Shit see the new doctor who for another example. These people don't live in the real world. They live in 2020 twitter lol

[@GholaTleilaxu]

Too much input of modern bigoted inclusiveness, progressiveness and political-correctness lead to immersion-breaking in The Witcher series.

[@nightshadehelis9821]

The show seriously lacked (among many, many things) chemistry amongst characters. One thing I liked about the books was that Geralt, Yen, Ciri, and their close friends all felt like a big lovable family. Sure, it was a little dysfunctional due to the circumstances, but in a world filled with hate, racism, and war, they all truly cared about each other. I loved when Yen arrived to teach Ciri about her powers and she became a friend, mentor, and mother figure. Their relationship was downright heartwarming. In the show? Absolutely nothing. I don't understand how they could've messed things up this bad.

[@kakarotto2523]

I don't remember from books that Yennefer wanted a child. She was more like modern feminists XD

[@AgraxGaming]

@@kakarotto2523 she did. Geralt even gathered money and precious stones for experimental magical procedures for her to be able to have a child. Yes, at the beggining of being a witch she might've been a bit obsessed with power, because it fixed her looks, but ultimately by the time she and Geralt met, she was struggling with the idea of not being able to be a mother

[@christopherrichards4225]

Yeah, little monster missions per ep with a wider background arc that wraps up near the end, the odd fan-fave returning character is all that was required like Mando season 1.

[@supersonicboom6460]

Sapkowski drama with game and CD project started when his son was dying and he needed money to try to save him. Media presented it like he was some greedy old guy. I kinda understand him, he was desperate and even though he was the one who did not believed in game success and sold rights for let's say not much money. Also he was really angry when his books were published with visuals from game - that's when the meme that his books are based on the game started. Maybe someone will find it interesting.

[@PasiX2]

They really had it all, they had Cavill who is an actual die hard fan of the universe, they got the fanbase of the books AND the games, the universe had a big hype after The Witcher 3 and yet they absolutely butchered it. Like, you actually cannot make it that bad by accident, it must've been done on purpose and even then it's hard to fuck it up THAT badly. What a dumpster fire.

[@pepinlebref7585]

I agree, this is done on purpose. They hate the original fans and wanted to spit on their faces, same with starwars, lord of the rings, etc.

[@aightm8]

Of course. He's a strong masculine character. It simply cannot stand

[@NemesisX94]

​@@aightm8More so that combined with the fact he's white.

[@patricknez7258]

I agree. Having an actor and contributor like Henry that is super committed to the work should be a huge advantage and very desirable. If having an actor that is knowledgeable and passionate about the source material is being seen as a negative, or is seen as threatening or undermining to director/writer or higher-up, then for me, it says a lot about them, not the actor/contributor.

[@RamboTheArtist]

@@patricknez7258 I wish that in future someone gets the rights to the IP and gives it right to Henry with unlimited creative power. He knows it, he understands it. There is literally no one else better to do it again.

[@selendile030]

How do you have Henry Cavill and blow it this badly? It requires truly awful management and writing…

[@PasiX2]

Showrunners who think they know everything better and inject their own bullshit into a finished and beloved story.

[@Greenthumb6a]

Sounds like Amazon is blowing it with him and warhammer as well

[@MrVvulf]

@@Greenthumb6a Amazon seems to be trying to "Out-Disney" Disney. As if Rings of Power didn't toss enough money into Mordor's volcano, now they want to force "initiatives" that are going to doom Warhammer before it even starts.

[@guyfromdubai]

"Sheer, fucking, hubris"

[@Adanu191]

@@Greenthumb6a Wait, how are they trying to blow it? I haven't been paying attention, but I thought Amazon was smarter than that after rings of power.

[@TrafalgarKiri]

3:30 THIS! If they decided to not stick to the books anyways, then why don’t make a series about Geralt and his Witcher friends fighting some monsters every episode? There is so much creative room of untold stories before the main story of the books take place.

[@metalmarinelj]

another example of why i dont spend money on streaming services anymore. if they can even bother to finish a story there usually trying to make some modern statement even if the characters they invent couldnt have anything to do with the timeline the story takes place.

[@joshm3484]

I hate this. That feeling of loving something, and slowly watching it change into something you hate, but you still remember what it was and know what it could have been.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

I say witcher came out relatively unharmed this show will be forgotten most people still associate the brand with the games and even in the show at least Geralt wasn't character assassinated. If you want to see something dead look over to that mangled rotting corpse called star wars over there.

[@stremstrem3632]

i usually would agree with you, but you need to understand that this show is SO BAD that nobody even associates it with the books or the games lol

[@BunjiKugashira42]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 Yeah, for StarWars I don't see any way to reanimate the franchise except deleting episodes 8 and 9. Don't get me wrong, episode 7 was also bad, but at least it didn't violate the established rules of the universe and it didn't mangle any existing characters.

[@declancampbell1277]

this is why i unironically endorse gatekeeping now. Like i thought that kinda thing was plain evil when i was younger, but i've seen so many things i've loved absolutely destroyed that i've reversed my opinion on it.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@BunjiKugashira42 agreed there is simply no future for star wars without abandoning the current canon the entire skywalker legacy was burned to the ground, the prophecy of the chosen one rendered meaningless, the legacy of the jedi a joke, and the world building is less coherent than watching teletubbies on LSD.

[@MCBeremus]

Wokeness is really a parasite.

[@Fastwinstondoom]

That's only half the reason this turned to shit. The other, bigger reason, is the ARROGANCE of screen"writers" thinking they can make better stories than what was originally written.

[@kueapel911]

The world is diverse, they have regions of different ethnic like ours. You can immediately tell that someone's a traveler from other part of the world by looking at their ethnicity. But they decide to make everywhere looks like modern day new york, and now we can't tell shit who came from where, or where they are, because no matter where they're, it looks like everywhere else.

[@Ingeborga_Dapkunaite]

I was reading the hole story last year and decided to check the difference between the book characters and the series characters just to laugh)))))

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

​@@Fastwinstondoomthose go hand in hand woke ideology is a privileged belief of an arrogant elite class of Hollywood nepo babies that think they are deep.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

​@@kueapel911exactly as someone who travels ethnic authenticity and good diversity go hand in hand by making everywhere new York it's no longer special. No location in the show feels rooted in a specific ethnic grouping or culture it just looks like LA larping at a fantasy fair, it takes me out completely.

[@lynnhollie]

I agree with you saying 'it's fanfiction; it's not real anymore", but the anger and resentment is for the loss of what COULD have been. They had SO much at their disposal to make this good, and just didn't..

[@Morfe02]

Fanfic writers of the Witcher can pull a better Story Than the 3-5 writers of Netflix that thinks they are Tolkien by creating the worst ideas ever

[@stryfer1989]

West ruins media. Audience moves on to anime. West goes "Hey, this is popular now. Let's do that!"... Do you realize the reason it's popular is *because* you're not the ones doing it? It has nothing to do with it being animated in a certain style.

[@CampaignerSC]

Yeah well the woke mafia has already ruined the main western IPs that we all loved. Hopefully their money runs out before they infect the entire world.

[@MinscS2]

Its scary how accurate this is. I started watching anime about 18 months ago, and I can count the number of US-made shows *and* movies I've seen since on one hand...

[@l0kk016]

​@@MinscS2 fuck, I've been watching since 2014-ish and I also can count on one or two hands lol

[@MinscS2]

@@l0kk016Yeah as someone in my mid-30's, I wish I started sooner, but you know what they say, better late than never. ^^

[@CarlosRivera-cg4cs]

Exactly, thats why asia should NEVER listen to the west, they should keep their style, globalism ruined the west

[@superbnns]

What Disney did with Star Wars really infected every other company with brainrot. How is spamming 10 spinoffs of the same franchise within 3 years a winning strategy?

[@oscardalmatiner8724]

That's the fun part: It's not. At least not in the long run

[@jpb2366]

you mean wokeness? We all know the common denominator...

[@bubeable]

Quantity over quality i guess

[@chairmanmayo133]

Esg and blackrock

[@superbnns]

@jpb2366 yeah woke is the reason why it's bad. Nothing before 2012 was bad

[@themaster4576]

People always say changes from Book to TV/video game/Movie and vice versa are bound to happen but they never ask do the Changes make sense?

[@mikeincarnation1484]

Hey Asmon, pretty dope of you to play the OPs ad in its entirety. 💯

[@notYisan]

netflix witcher: "dies from DEI" what a waste of potential, they only need to follow the source material for a surefire success and they failed because they have to be "creative" and meet the "western sensibilities".

[@ladytwinklefangs921]

what "westerns sensibilities"? the games and books sold out fast! perhaps you mean 'western egos'? 🤣🤣🤣 But 100% agree with you that it was a surefire success that could have made them millions and us happy. But no.

[@LezArtist5iG]

They failed cause they wanted to increase the storyline of "diverse" characters. Show runners went off-script to expand the story for DEI reasons.

[@lepathewarrior4445]

​@@ladytwinklefangs921western sensibilities means insane californian sensibilities,

[@ElessarFrey]

@@ladytwinklefangs921The fella is probably referring to the ideas normally held by society after years of propaganda and indoctrination, not the ideas and notions held by the target audience of the media we used to enjoy. Another completely different thing it’s the fact that the ideas of the “modern west” are so toxic to the west itself and it’s people that they are paving the path of it’s destruction as a culture and as an ethnic group (But we are not allowed to talk about it)

[@guyfromdubai]

As a westerner, these are not my sensibilities. These are far left sensibilities

[@1XcysX]

They complain about AI taking writers jobs. Things like this makes me root for AI.

[@Adeon55]

AI certainly wouldn't have f'd up season 2 as badly as they did.

[@potentiallyacommentor5648]

Just imagine what could be written if they only trained AI off of shows and movies written after 2010.

[@Khann_2102]

@@potentiallyacommentor5648 probably a mess but better than all these shts nowadays

[@EddieHallslittlebrother]

They'll just program AI to be inclusive and ruin that too

[@MichaelJP]

Sounds good on paper but you just know they're going to program the AI woke.

[@you_tube6733]

read back of box. see number around 400f or 200c. and turn oven to 400f or 200c and set timer.

[@NuclearWinter69]

When they had yen just straight up try to have ciri killed, i was like ok this is a twist and she was doing a chess move. Nope tried to kill her.

[@jaredc5169]

It's like being handed a goose that lays golden eggs and then chopping the goose's head off.

[@stevencalef4550]

Actually a very good comparison lol love it

[@SadMoribund]

Ironic, considering there is a quest in Witcher 3 where Geralt saves a Goose that lays golden eggs.

[@jonnytaylor9852]

Im glad it flopped. The changes to the original story and the lack of lore for the cast was bs

[@CanalDesenhando]

The Rats were probably given to some writer that have good connections inside Netflix, that's how the world works. They knew it was gonna fail, but someone's nephew needed a favor.

[@barbarossa5700]

We had the Witcher as described by Asmon, it was called Hercules: The Legendary Journeys with Kevin Sorbo.

[@Dr.Dementor]

It's kind of fascinating how little witcher is in a tv show called the witcher from season 2 onwards.

[@dennisdouglas5941]

IT became The Witch Her

[@laughingman212]

Just imagine how bad it really was if even netflix said "this is bad cancel it"

[@Film_Sushi]

It´s more like they´re running out of money too. :)

[@dannys9074]

Dude forreal. Probably looked like a highschool project

[@kralexprofill4571]

@@Film_Sushi Hm hard to figure out why they're running out of money considering their past decisions...

[@Film_Sushi]

@@kralexprofill4571 Yeah it´s really hard. :) Damn mystery, if you ask me! Lol!

[@protomato6427]

Saw it from the beginning, they mangled the source material back in season 1 and there was no possible way to salvage it from there. Most of the people didn't realize it because they are sadly not familiar with books

[@Texshy]

Friends and I watched season 2 together when it came out and we were bored. Also we got a good laugh at a pretty bad wirework for a jump Cavill does.

[@94tegLSatMSC]

Knew it was cursed when one of the showrunners was talking about challenging the ideas of beauty with the Yennifer casting

[@windatar6351]

The Witcher, a story about a guy whos part monster that goes and hunts down monsters for cash, with multiple love interests and a journey into becoming a great father figure while doing his job when big events happen around him. And the writers took all that out, and are shocked the fans revolted against them.

[@KindOldRaven]

9:45 this is going to be a golden one for the out of context quotes together with the ''I hate all people'' quote xD

[@mdavissq3d]

Gotta love that the covers shown of the books Netflix skipped all say "Now on Netflix"

[@martymcfly6914]

Henry Cavill was done. He was like: I cant take this shit any more

[@rationalcynic8416]

You could literally see the enthusiasm in Henry's eyes drain with each episode, starting towards the end of season 2, and continuing throughout season 3, I couldn't even finish season 3. He remained professional, but you could tell he was so over it all and just wanted to be done with it.

[@Double_Vision]

The writers and the director wanted him to laugh when Roach dies. He refused.

[@julianmorgan79]

Henry actually read the books and plays the games, the writers never had read any material or played any games which is why season 2 makes zero sense. They stopped half reading and just said fuck it lets do our own thing fully.

[@HUSK3RGAM3R]

Imagine taking a beloved IP and not do anything that made it good in the first place, couldn't be Hollywood.

[@randomgai7531]

Every time he says "Ooooh my god" I chuckle

[@Ramegon01]

You can not pull a long sword out from the back. Unless you design a special sheath for that.

[@chinchilla505]

The producers were told it needed to be a DEI game of thrones, aka a soulless imitation. If you look at it like that, all the decisions make sense.

[@Metallijosh100]

Stop blaming DEI, they want you to do that because they can just label you racist. The problem isn't black actors. The problem is awful writers who don't care for the materials they write and put their own awful stories in.

[@Bash70]

​@@Metallijosh100 Being against DEI isn't racism, that's the narrative these activists are trying to draw. There's numerous minorities that are against DEI but activists will pretend as if they don't exist. You're eluding the root reason why these writers are awful and it's because they feel entitled to privileges for being a "marginalized victim" over sole merit.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

@@Metallijosh100 DEI doesn't just mean black actors. It also means California people who don't anything about the world writing said stories. Even the black elf has California dreads.

[@chinchilla505]

@Metallijosh100 nono. The show was supposed to be based on polish folklore/myths, so that narrative is automatically destroyed when you turn it into 2024 modern DEI rainbow land with every race. Nothing could be done with writing at that point. If the writers and directors Cleary care more about DEI political activism, then the writing importance is placed lower in importance. You can have good African leads, good asian leads, when the show or sourced material is based around them

[@emmanuel_40]

@@Metallijosh100 DEI didn't just stop at the casting of actors, but the "casting" of writers too.

[@Fraulein_Sausageball]

Why? Turning a boy franchise into a girl franchise always works. Always. Works.

[@MurrayLime]

xena was a spin off of hercules which was pretty successful....but that was because of good writing and Lucy Lawless

[@dannys9074]

Yeah not like the majority of the Witcher fan base is men too. Probably like 90%+ are men

[@AlexiosLair]

It was never about that. Lots of girls enjoy the original premise and story of Witcher as is without Netflix stuff

[@ryanbeatbox]

Well, the books are mostly centered around Ciri and Geralt initially, and Yennefer is largely out of the main story after Thanedd but it's definitely I would say 50/50 Geralt / Ciri in the 1st 2 books, then it's largely Ciri focused afterwards with Geralt doing stuff on the side. The original book set as a whole was never just focused on Geralt especially towards the middle to end of the books where in the latter half of the books he's just "there".

[@aightm8]

Strong masculine character, feminist writers. Result is inevitable

[@mityakiselev]

bro Netflix is the living embodiment of the meme where the guy shoves a stick into his front wheel, crashes, then blames %insert_joke%

[@Poraggg]

In game is mandatory to diverge in order to have mutiple possible paths, but the books and the tv serie are mandatory same linear.

[@Baka578]

It won't be history. It will be herstory. 😎

[@ElessarFrey]

You…you win this round

[@chexmixkitty]

Boooooooooooo lol

[@ArcanistBlack]

It’s amazing how much they fucked up what was so difficult to fuck up.

[@anthonycrayne2835]

Amazon did the wheel of time like this. Hard to mess up because the books are complete but they still did.

[@tyty8484]

Its not quite as bad as starwars tho. They took an ip that had a built in billions of dollars hardcore fan base and drove 90+ % of them away from not just that ip but any ip associated with them in any way, forever!

[@ladytwinklefangs921]

and yet here we are 🤣🤣🤣

[@ericmontiel3234]

Sirens of the deep actually looks dope af. It was a really cool atory in the book. I actually really liked Nightmare of the Wolf.

[@barriath8841]

I do remember no bookbased show that was once good ended up remaining as such as soon as they drifted off into "fantasia" realms

[@itsnagamers]

Netflix fucked around with the gamer community and found out... you can take SOME artistic liberties, but changing the story completely is just a bad move.

[@creamyusbport4647]

they turned the entire show into an artistic liberty. and even worse, the art style they chose was finger painting.

[@ronn201]

Nah, they didn’t learn. Captain Lazerhawk is a dumpster-fire. Whoever the show runner was, must’ve absolutely hated Ubisoft because nearly every Ubi character died like a dog.

[@tdfbbfhk786d]

What "gamer community"? Games themselves were only an adaptation of books, in terms of story more of a fanfic. Books are the true source material. Because they are that good.

[@neotronextrem]

Not even just the gaming community. I'm a fan of the books and the show was just trash. A shitty Tumblrized GoT in the Witcher universe, with forced US demographics

[@zolikoff]

@@creamyusbport4647 Finger painting... with their own feces

[@UnseenIncognito]

Yet another case of someone thinking "So those books are successful? I can do it better!" Surely they can fix this when they try again, and throw a few more millions at it.

[@eliaspanayi3465]

The witcher would have worked great as a netflix seasonal show where each episode is a self contained plot involving a monster that geralt is contracted to kill, with an overarching journey where the last 3 or 4 books is setup to fight a much greater threat and geralt is involving a bunch of characters throughout.

[@gamejew123]

i saw the writing on the wall at the start of season 2 when they killed eskel. Also when they made Fringilla Vigo a black woman when being very pale is actually a part of her character.

[@JayUchiha17]

Imagine the actual writer of the books tell the World in an interview, "I tried to give the live action writers some advice, but they didn't listen to me" 😂

[@piotrj.451]

At first Sapkowski was ok with what they did because he couldn't probably throw any shade at the show, he get the cash but he clearly isn't happy about it, as his recent words are rather negative. I mean they changed almost everything... after Eskel becomes a fucking tree i dropped that shit, unbearable.

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

CKProjekt's game storylines didn't come directly from the books, but they're wildly successful so we know they didn't need to copy the source material perfectly to get good results. They just needed to respect the source material and worldbuilding.

[@everquestonline1600]

Big oven works basically the same

[@Junk_Yogurt]

I watched 2 seasons and the only episode that was good was the first ep of season 2 because it was very reminiscient of a deep storytelling quest from the Games

[@NotLookinGood]

Its like they hire their writers and producers not based on skills, oh wait a minute.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

The Witcher is what happens when your ego outpaces your brain.

[@user-ec3rm9wr1n]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Babshoka

[@mchlearle8385]

100% right. Diverging is fine if the divergence is better/good. IE; the show runners of last of us said that every change they considered is this better? If it was they did it if it wasn't they didn't.

[@markiversen1590]

funny enough Lars Mikklesen (Stregobor) is in a game being developed called Neon Knights: Humanity Erased ;)

[@headshot531]

do yall understand how bad a show has to be for netflix to cancel it MID production? 💀💀

[@the7blargs]

Its a constant cycle of people being in charge of a project that dont give a damn about the project over and over and over again

[@morallyitsdisgusting.perso6534]

It's probably because of nepotism that standards have dropped so much in entertainment, I can't think of another compelling reason, it's just that simple 🤦🤦🤦

[@Grognaflaxs]

I never read the books and played like half of Witcher 3 I didn’t know how bad they diverted from the books until I started looking into it lol what’s funny is the stuff Netflix came up with is the stuff I didn’t like having no prior knowledge of the actual lore

[@thewingedserpent5823]

It's crazy how something as obvious as "the people adapting something should like the source material" seems like such a foreign concept to many of those productions

[@h0113r0]

they really butchered The Witcher, it´s worse than I thought. It´s like they never wanted this show to succeed, judging by their decisions it seems like they wanted it to bomb

[@maladyofdeath]

Yeah it's become meta to destroy the thing that you are building up. They hate culture and want to destroy it while getting paid royally.

[@betelgeux6010]

and just wait: in a few months, the typical journo-activists will come out and have the gall to proclaim there is just no audience for stoic masculine fighter types like geralt, else the show wouldve been a success ahahahah

[@VRGamingTherapy]

Looks like they pulled a "game of thrones" move. How can they fuck this up so bad?! So much potential!

[@aightm8]

Worse. The game of thrones show runners ran out of book material and only then it got bad. It also got rushed around this point because they wanted to leave the series. Witcher was bad without running out of book material or time.

[@juvenileygo]

Books: popular. Writer: nah lets not follow it

[@thelorddarkam3563]

@@aightm8 GOT was lucky, cuz when they ran out of the book materials they already had a solid plot made by Martin to follow, here they chose to ignore the books

[@firstactionhero]

The oven is an indoor grill and a pots and pans storage. Do not put plastic microwave dinners in the oven.

[@robinburkart6445]

Funny you bring up dragons, because in one of the first books they actually want to kill a dragon with the dwarves and the dragon turns out to be a pretty chill dude. And the plot with the actual father of Ciri was mindblowing but it is only revealed in one of the last chapters of the last book. The show did not cover anything from the books which is so disapointing.

[@rcmunro22]

What Netflix did to the Witcher is an absolute travesty. No two ways about it.

[@randysalsman6992]

lol It's a TV show, not a bus full of dead childern

[@IrrelevantPlease]

Fictional Bus full of dead children no one cares about vs fictional story and setting loved by millions of people, id say the latter is more important

[@Xeanowos]

Anything Netflix touch breaks.

[@yummdiddy]

It ain’t Netflix… it’s the whole woke wack ass industry

[@dingickso4098]

Go woke, go broke

[@Zenbon111]

Weeb

[@mattandrews2594]

Wrong. One Piece, Love, Death & Robots, Blue Eye Samurai, Edgerunners, and countless other successful productions prove it.

[@Pandemos]

​@mattandrews2594 Delicious in Dungeon is spectacular, as well. It's really this (The Witcher) and a handful of high-budget production pieces that have put the stink on Netflix. They killed two things I was a fan of, The Witcher and Cowboy Bebop. Otherwise, One-Piece was fantastic, and there's a lot of good stuff on there. And they're willing to take on risky Korean shows, that could have been divisive, like Squid Game (they paid for it, but Hwang Dong-hyuk made it without bowing to anyone). They just need to showcase, but let the production be by independent companies that are passionate, not studio politicians.

[@polypumkins111]

Have you guys watched Uhtred of Bebbenburg, Gave me witcher vibes but no monsters

[@Hehe-1026]

The first thing that comes into my mind when i hear The Witcher is Geralt hunting witches, im sure theres also a lot stories but im a bit biased because the very first thing that i know of THE WITCHER is when i watched the trailer "The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt" and thats pretty much the only information i have on the The Witcher😂.

[@JafferBasha14]

Vesamier sacrificed his life for ciri. Wtf are they thinking

[@AndrewRyan-zv7zb]

"Strong independent girls can do it all by themselves" probably

[@howser5826]

I am confused, does the Netflix Witcher take places in Wakanda?

[@Film_Sushi]

Since it´s Netflix, anything medieval is Wakanda. :)

[@Hunlor-]

6:51 my exact view with WoW. Jailor? Dragonflight? Nah bro we just arrested Garrosh in ogrimmar and found out he was being controlled by a Sha, crazy i know.

[@SmorgasLord]

There should be a term we can use for when book or game adaptations disregard source material and just make shit up. It's so common yet rarely succesful. It must be about money. like they don't want to pay original creators or something.

[@Canuck.Collector]

it was dead when that one guy left

[@user-ec3rm9wr1n]

Ew Cavill is horrible stiff and boring...too much in himself

[@Xinamon98]

No, it was dead from the beginning, Cavill just made the corpse walk.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

The reason why he left is why this series died. Incompetence is why this show bought the farm

[@mikiggs]

It was shit from the beginning. Only the Ciri actress and some side characters were doing a decent job. Cavill was stiff and the Jen sucked.

[@Whiskey_EST97]

Producers ruining shows is becoming a thing. It’s like they get to it first and drain out what they can until they realize nobody cares and then bam they throw it down. With that nobody can go back and try and redo it because everyone will remember this 💩

[@KingCeryn]

"I have an oven that works, but I don't know how to use it," LITERALLY as I laughed at this, I realized I haven't used my oven in maybe 3 years.

[@theunstoppabletryhard751]

The thing I could never understand is u have the homework right in front of the books and game but you want to take a big gamble trying to do something different plz copy the homework word for word then add a little here and then

[@Amanda_move]

Thank god shit was going to go down hill anyways after my baby boy Henry left and without sticking to the source as well.

[@MangaGamified]

Bot

[@hollowknight459]

but not a bad one this time. lol

[@MangaGamified]

@@hollowknight459 how hard is it to pretend? "I will miss my baby " that's all you ever need to learn in identity theft

[@wraithkind]

This is why writers should always remain involved in the writing of their TV adaptations. In almost every instance when writers simply sell off the property for TV adaptation and take a "hands off" approach, the adaptation is horrible.

[@bitharne]

While true: they’ll never do it since the producers are egomaniacs. Basically explained by Kevin Smith and his story about his Superman movie: one of them wanted a giant spider in it…just because. Also check out Strazensky and Babylon 5 problems. The rich people ALWAYS have to make their mark and mess up productions. They’ll never be convinced otherwise so the OG author on hand would do nothing. Cavil was just as good, if not better (better due to his enthusiasm as a fan to recreate it faithfully), than the Author and he accomplished little.

[@todd8398]

​@@bitharne The producer with the giant spider fetish is Jon Peters. He was a producer on the Wild Wild West, which is the reason for the giant spider tank at the end of that movie. He also tried to get a giant mechanical spider into Smith's Superman movie and an earlier movie treatment of The Sandman, both of which were eventually shelved. To his credit, Neil Gaiman was dead-set against the idea. Peters was also a prod on the movie Man of Steel, but Christopher Nolan barred him from the set entirely, which was probably for the best.

[@HatakeHyei]

We have The last of Us as a proof of that. The game writers were there the whole time to help bringing it to the screen.

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

2:45 meh this is the reasoning of the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory defenders when the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory defenders push back against them regarding on which is more faithful to the book

[@SmorgasLord]

I said it from the beginning, they should have worked with CD Projekt on the witcher show. CD already had the world and monster designs nailed( and all the characters). Also cd projekt's writing would have helped them get ideas for the stories. OR they could have just followed the books, that's an idea..

[@Chafins]

I still don't understand how they had multiple sources of references such as the books and games, and YET they still created something similar to Amber Heard shitting in your bed and then finger painting with it to create this dumpster fire of a tragedy.

[@FlatMarssSociety]

Eh games have a lot of fan fiction. Show was supposed to be based on the books and not the games. The blood and wine dlc was one of the best dlc ever but none of that was in the books.

[@malchir4036]

Games aren't canon plus some of the directors are on record for wanting to create something apart from the games, given that they're just a continuation of the source material.

[@seedem7861]

It's on record that the director and writers do not like the source material. At best, they haven't read it. At worst, they hate it and want to subvert it.

[@Ungood-jl5ep]

I wonder how many people complaining about the studio making up their own lore are also cheering for fallout? It seems to have worked for Amazon, but I guess it's only season 1.

[@Xfghstryhfghfg]

@@FlatMarssSociety BUT STILL, that fan fiction is much better than what they did....

[@rogthepirate4593]

The entirety of Netflix's attempt to adapt the Witcher really just feels like an exercise in taking an essentially un-failable project and fucking it up in the most ridiculous, insane way possible. I have NEVER BEFORE in my entire life seen a series of increasingly worse and worse decisions like this. The bad decisions started in season 1 with the Nilfgaardian dick armor and some questionable casting, which are both things I could kinda look past because other designs looked spot-on and casting Henry Cavill as Geralt was a stroke of utter genius (entirely by accident, I am sure now). But holy shit, it's like someone asked them in every meeting: "OK, how badly can you fumble this next bit?" and the whole room loudly yelled "YES!" in unison. It's beyond satirical, no satire writer on this planet could come up with a plot this ridiculously contrived and nonsensically on the nose, and this ACTUALLY HAPPENED. The fact that a fairly large number of people making decisions on this needed to be so completely and utterly inept at their jobs to result in what we see before us now just *boggles the mind* so hard it's not even funny any more. You had a show that basically created and wrote itself and was guaranteed to PRINT MONEY, if you just bothered at least somewhat respecting the source material, and you turned it into a pile of steaming gorilla shit that nobody on this planet cares about. How much of a joke do you have to be to achieve this?

[@Arasaka]

Just a another day ending in "y" in Clown World. You can check out but never leave...

[@dillonporter4686]

The fact that Yen trying to kill Siri TO GET HER POWERS BACK was the dumbest thing ive seen....

[@lyraezaniah2496]

"Really, why don't we get a director who doesn't care about the books and thinks he can improve an already very good story and turn it into a weird mutation with things that don't make any sense in the context of the universe of the witcher, what could go wrong?"