Hollywood Wants To Ban YouTube Movie Critics | Asmongold Reacts

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[@Max_Ohm]

The problem isn't the critics, the problem is that the critics are far more entertaining to watch than the films.

[@irishbob26]

I'd sooner watch the critical drinker break down a shit movie in 15 mins, than spend my time and money watching said shit movie.

[@necrisro]

"You can't criticize the propaganda" vibes. These people are literally thinking the same way Stalin or Mao did and need to be called out ASAP

[@StatusVolt-hi3ft]

facts

[@juvenileygo]

I like the part when Hollywood says "it's critic time." Truly one of the movie.

[@-Rook-]

Exactly, I watched 'The last jedi' once and hated it but I've enjoyed professor tosspot taking the piss out of it half a dozen times.

[@aeonstar293]

Banning critics won't magically make their absolute garbage tier writing, cgi, everything better. Hollywood is a relic.

[@immapotato1]

they can scam thousands of more people when the only reviews would be the paid one's they write and publish themselves.

[@jaeslow6347]

I increasingly think Hollywood as a whole has decided the plot to 'The Producers' was actually a legitimate way to steal seed money and they can just get away with making trash and keep getting paid.

[@gabegu5102]

And now with AI and tools like unreal engine becoming easier for everyone to use anyone with a good story idea will be able to flesh it out and just bypass Hollweird all together. They are slowly becoming less relevant and vestige of a bygone era. And I’m here for it 💯💯

[@SmittyWJManJensen]

I don't think their CGI is bad. I just think that it's overused af. Like bro, just make an animated movie at this point.

[@hisaffliction2138]

That’s just gonna piss those of us who like the not bought reviews and we’re really not gonna go see the movie

[@RetroRobotRadio]

Is all started happening with the all girl Ghostbusters. Fans didn't want it and then Hollywood blamed the fans. Now they do it with every movie they can to generate buzz.

[@skull8534]

i think it started there too

[@lurtiskoe]

YUP. i still havent seen it. was never interested in that. and i grew up with the original movies in theaters and went to all of them. love those old movies

[@d.b.1176]

It started when Netflix got rid of disliking videos. Thx Amy Schumer.

[@STEVEIAM1]

First time I read a review where they slated the movie and gave it a five star.

[@Nope-w3c]

@@lurtiskoe I tried. I genuinely tried. After 8 minutes I absolutely couldn't bear it anymore. It was SO bad, it's incredible.

[@bobshewmake5369]

When my daughter was young, she entered paintings and drawings in an art show with intent to sell. Nothing sold. She was distraught and almost gave up art. I sat her down and told her: If you do art for yourself, do whatever you want. But if you do art with intent to sell, you have to do what 'they' want. The years that followed, she did more art that catered to the public and practically sold out every show. The first rule in marketing is KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. All Hollywood cares about now is having whites and straights as a minority in their movies. Too bad that alienates around 70% of the population that buys movie tickets. Well played.

[@gravekeepersven82]

This is wholesome

[@Ryan91487]

It is more than just demographic casting, that is just one part of it, real rot is the fact they turn entertainment into propaganda

[@Adjacentpossible-qm7vo]

Honestly, as a gay guy, i dont care about *representstion* I dont need to see 2 dudes liking eachither in orser to enjoy a film, thats what pron is for, i watch movies foe the action, not for no g*d d*mn love interest, i hate love interests its just filler, Aliens are invading earth, but wait i love you lets have 30 minutes of pointless relationship buildup I need a movie where the aliens just go after the relationship fillers, it wohld be a comedy scifi film

[@niallk9336]

75.5% of US citizens are white. The % of people who pay for tickets at movie theaters... do you think that % is higher or lower than that?

[@FreePigeon]

And then everyone clapped?

[@shinestar2912]

They thought buying rotten tomatoes would fix all their problems

[@Judge_Dredd_XXX]

So true, they can't turn shit to gold by simply buying reviews. We literally have an infinite supply of critic websites & video sharing platforms for movie reviews 🤣

[@logirex]

People still don't know how rottentomatoes work do they 🤦‍♂ They don't do any review they aggregate the score from hundreds of reviews around the world including from youtube. Also Madam Web has NOTHING to do with Marvel it is a Sony movie.

[@TheR3alRyan]

​@Judge_Dredd_XXX Unfortunately, the average person sees those because they are built into the streaming apps. They don't generally realize that those reviews are nonsense.

[@inksday]

@@logirex Rotten Tomatoes literally deletes reviews from their Hollywood masters

[@IIMiikexDII]

@@logirex They manipulate the scores. Yes it aggregates the score from hundreds of reviews, but if they regularly refuse to aggregate negative reviews, the score gets padded. Nobody is saying rotten tomatoes does their own reviews.

[@pras6]

Hollywood : "We hate it when people say the truth"

[@MB-em9ek]

Small hats and truth...just like water and oil.

[@VBTB]

😊😊​@@MB-em9ek

[@JKnksrsly]

..... this is pretty thoughtful

[@danmcmurphy2823]

The critical drinker doesn't review movies based on their content, he "reviews" them based on if they agree with his political views. YMS blows critical drinker out of the water any day.

[@OtwBingung]

​@@danmcmurphy2823 what political views,he ignores those when the movie is actually good

[@KodamaoftheWeastTree]

My homie and his mom used to watch LotR and the Hobbits movies together because she used to read him the books before bed, so they’d watch the movies together every year on Tolkien day. She passed in 2020. He said, serious as shit, “I’m kind of glad they came out with this show after she died. This show was so bad it would’ve crushed her.” That’s how bad it was.

[@WalrusWinking]

I wish it would've at least come out after I died. I hate knowing it exists.

[@docmcquack7252]

It's got nothing to do with Tolkien. It's a bad fan fic.

[@Matt-bp5vy]

@@docmcquack7252 it had a lot to do with Tolkien family though

[@lordomacron3719]

@@Matt-bp5vyyeah the grandson who is a lawyer wants his cut of money so sold the rights off with no control over what will be done with those rights. This only happened after his father Christopher Tolkien died and couldn’t stop him anymore.

[@MrMouth-ld6kt]

Hollywood: We’re not making this movie for you!! Also Hollywood: Why didn’t you watch the movie, bigot?!

[@GrzegorzDurda]

Hollywood is like 90% LGBTQIA+++P.

[@boomerlizard3184]

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

[@erocgittens5962]

Well said

[@GM-cw1zr]

he can still write tho, would need to get his hands also

[@lehahiah81]

​@@GM-cw1zrhe can still piss

[@Darth0308]

​@GM-cw1zr maybe he can write with his feet. Maybe he can write with his mouth, how stupid do we wanna take it trying to make a proverb literally..

[@GM-cw1zr]

@@Darth0308 i didnt know we were calling trash lines from got proverbs now

[@Tyhar93]

It's like when Amy Schumer complained that the Netflix rating system was the reason people didn't want to watch her specials, then they removed the rating system and people still didn't watch her specials lol

[@eldendad5743]

Also she's related to politician chuck Schumer. Nepotism much?

[@luminous6969]

Yeah I wonder when they're gonna change it back? It's so dumb when companies take the ol' " make dumb decisions and then leave it that way forever" approach.

[@natmarelnam4871]

@@luminous6969 There's no greater admission of being wrong than implementing something and then rolling it back.... Ego-driven potato ass CEOs that should be fired for being cowards instead of poor managers.

[@luminous6969]

@@natmarelnam4871 Yeah, they would've had to admit that they were wrong, they could've spun it like "because we're the kind of company that's always looking to improve, we decided to try it, and we didn't get the result we wanted, so because we're the kind of company that doesn't have such a big ego that we will just stick with a decision that we got wrong, we decided to reverse the decision because we've heard the customers loud and clear.

[@bm373]

Wow didn't know this!! 100% nepo baby!! ✌️🇺🇸

[@jerodwolf5582]

Banning critics is the equivalent of plugging your ears with your fingers and shouting "la la la" to ignore someone calling out your shit

[@BTrillJ]

Talking about exhuming old ip’s so they don’t go public is such a great point that not enough people are talking about

[@rompevuevitos222]

I am a believer of IPs belonging to the public. Let them do non official stuff only after the copyright expires and that's that.

[@homelander2243]

@@rompevuevitos222 tell that to Disney who is in fact openly suing people over steam boat Willie still

[@deltor5849]

I love how everytime a movie or anything for that matter gets a ton of negative review on release, it's called "Review bombing" and not "Y'all just made a fucking shitty ass product, deal with the consequences"

[@drunkencowboyagni]

"and then for no reason at all they 'review bombed' the movie"

[@denkerbosu3551]

Review bumping is never a problem for these bad movies too.

[@Sas-ym4gg]

They’ll run out of money or trust from the companies to make content (make them money) soon enough.

[@ass4sale2]

Yeah and when people who rate things as a 10/10 isnt a problem. You really going to put the new little mermaid as the same category as the godfather or lord of the rings? GTFO here. You notice every 10/10 review is like 2-3 words also. AMAZING in all caps. Stunning and beautiful!

[@Djuntas]

Agreed. I dont get how bad movies even happen. They know what works 50 years ago. Just make another terminator 2 or dark knight

[@RealitySlipTV]

This is the reason you can't leave a Netflix review anymore.

[@TyyTheFlyGuy]

I forgot that was even a thing. I had Netflix since they started streaming and would also get the mail in dvd’s so I remember now after you mentioned it that it was definitely a thing. Back then they would only have 1-2 A lister movies and the rest was foreign or B flicks and some were actually hidden gems from Korea or Japan.

[@conorbeech5914]

I think 'Cuties' (or w/e was called) caused that 😂

[@xv6701]

@@conorbeech5914it was Angry Schumer’s stand-up special that saw that feature disappear.

[@kjohansen4088]

That was the Amy Schumer special that got that taken down

[@hope-cat4894]

It was pointless because it's not like that is suddenly going to make people think she's funny. ​@@xv6701

[@shinmalphur2734]

The only time i’ve ever heard the name “Madame Web” was from an old Spiderman cartoon, she was an old woman that would drag Peter into her little world, spit some of that cryptic/sage advice and leave.

[@GoFidoGo]

I immediately recognized the character. I don't think she's too much of an unknown for audiences. We forget that before the MCU, characters like Thor, Captain America, and Iron man were similarly unknown. Marvel was equal to Spiderman and X-Men as far as the general pop was concerned.

[@glados4765]

Whats funny is that some actors/directors for disney have been in interviews and accidentally said "M-She0U" and then immediately corrected themselves to MCU proves that youtubers are in living rent free.

[@scottsummers4154]

Imagine kicking someone off of your sports team, but expecting them to watch your games. That's Marvels logic with the male audience.

[@Mikebrowski]

Id say that metaphor is pretty accurate even across multiple continent and countires

[@freakklomp]

your comment is so popular. spam bots have copied it.

[@beerosaurusrex]

It's not even really the male audience, it's just people who actually liked the character/IP in the first place. Even if that existing fanbase was 90% male, the women liked it for the same reasons. The women they're trying to cater to now were not that female audience from before.

[@solomani5959]

Truth.

[@dbttsrecords3296]

And star wars

[@fidelitycreate]

What's changed with Hollywood is that these people no longer believe they are entertainers. These people believe they are social engineers

[@Max_Ohm]

I think they always have, I think they just had a lighter touch back in the day.

[@jessesmans9791]

if they didn't change every character we're used to, we would like movies more. But snow white wasn't black, and aladin was not a ginger.

[@charlespanache7047]

Instead of addressing the writers strike were forced to watch trash shows. This won't get better

[@teekay220]

They are! Not saying it's a good thing. It's unfortunate truth

[@leegaul2161]

During WWII, the government commissioned many studios in Hollywood to create propaganda for war time efforts. Hollywood had only been in the big studio business for at most 20 years at this point. Hate to educate Americans on their own history, but Hollywood has pretty much ALWAYS been a propaganda machine for industry, government, and activism. I'd say it was during the late 70s through the 80s that there was a lull in this behavior, hence why there was an explosion in more explorative film making. While the 20s to the early 70s, tended to adhere strictly in very specific genres and - to the credit of whiny liberals - leaned heavy on the "white hero complex" narrative. I'd say Hollywood went from being motivated by one propaganda to another. We are just on the other side of the pendulum swing. Hopefully we can get back to the "do whatever you want" period like in the 80s.

[@yobogoya4367]

15:30 "It's as if you had to make Iron Man and you only had $35" 🤣 i'm fuckin' dead

[@p4bl04]

That reminds me of a quote in Iron Man "Obadiah : [shouting] Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps! Scientists : Well, I'm sorry. I'm not Tony Stark." Rings of power had a lot of resources at their disposal and yet they failed to even compare to the original LotR.

[@shinmalphur2734]

To me, they look like someone in costume design in a children’s school play poured their heart out.

[@MrHeavy466]

A lot of the screenwriters making these adaptations or new series are routinely cited as either not having seen the source material or outright hating it.

[@MattIsLoling]

"Hollywood wants suppress freedom of speech"😂

[@Mvgical]

World Economic Forum*

[@AlbikerkyIsNotReal]

@@Mvgical "You own nothing, and you will be happy"

[@DrHuxley-]

The haves want to suppress the have nots

[@digduck9463]

Not A Weapon to Surpass Metal Gear?

[@Sjakkel]

@@Mvgical J's*

[@piefrosty319]

Will never forget the showrunners of Rings of Power calling Tolkien fans “patently evil” for calling out the BS in their fanfic

[@tonythaler8472]

A move right out of Disney's play book.

[@swizzamane8775]

​@@tonythaler8472I WAS gonna say, Marvel Studios started that... but then remembered Disney bought then out 😂😂😂

[@isaiahgoodley6188]

But rings of power was actually good. And doesn't have to follow a book specifically because it's just based off of the story.

[@nolilado5452]

​​​@@isaiahgoodley6188that's exactly why the Lord of the Rings film was popular. It didn't deviate too far from the books, but changed it enough to be a different thing. Rings of Power took the book. Changed everything, and pretty much altered a character's personality and origins which affects the overall lore and whole Tolkien storytelling. Rings of Power isn't a Tolkien story, it was a modern story using Tolkien's characters. And that's why fans didn't like it. And for other people, they just didn't like the show.

[@h.a.9880]

@@nolilado5452 The funny thing is, this isn't even true. Rings of Power covers parts of the lore that are mainly explained in the Silmarillion, but Amazon only owns the rights to the Hobbit and LOTR books (and appendices). So at best, they only have very vague and very brief blips of lore to work with from the source material that they actually own the rights to. If Amazon had made a show that fits the actual lore of the Silmarillion/Tolkien World, they'd be in violation of the Silmarillion's copyright. In other words, the very moment they set out to make this show, they never were able to "take the book" and make something based on it, they were always required to fuck up the plot. Of course, fucking up the plot by shoving modern idiotic sentiments and fads into it, picking the most obnoxious tropes and boring clichés of modern """entertainment""" and topping it all off with hilariously bad writing and horrifyingly unlikeable characters made it all the worse.

[@LinkIsMine]

We need an Eragon remake but a good one. 🙏🙏 And I want Sephira to be Game of Thrones/Smaug level of badass with a voice to match like the dragon from Damsel. Would be so epic if they did it correctly and followed the books exactly with good CGI.

[@seetoe_]

Great example

[@levistrauss5378]

A Eragon remake would be cool. I didn't hate the movie but it definitely wasn't the best. The books were excellent and still have a lot of potential.

[@LinkIsMine]

@@levistrauss5378 Yeah the books were amazing and even better on audible because the guy who read it did the voices so well. I really feel like if they did an Eragon remake correctly it would be close to LoTR status.

[@brendofire2084]

That movie was terrible

[@LinkIsMine]

@@brendofire2084 Exactly! They did such a bad job on it and it deserves a good remake and done right because the books were so good and the movie didn't do any of the books justice at all. XD

[@Sanetless]

Hearing Underworld referenced brought back a wave of nostalgia

[@joebyron2984]

Henry Cavil said once that “as fans we are entitled to our opinions and be passionate about them” it’s not being toxic.. toxic is a word incorrectly used nowadays to describe when someone does not follow suit

[@FemNate]

The woke crowd struggles to use a lot of words correctly these days..

[@jondubois5347]

There is a line between passion and toxicity that often gets crossed. Being passionate about something doesn't give license to be an asshole. Look at the way Hayden Christensen was spoken about after the Star Wars prequels. That amount of hate might have started from a place of passion but it still was toxic to the fandom

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

​That's deliberate ​@@FemNate, communists (like the cult of intersectionality in modern days,) and authoritarians in general LIVE for the subverting of language and changing of definitions, because if you can do that you can directly influence how people think. People THINK in language. Styx made me aware of this years ago.

[@Lizards_Lounge]

@@FemNate Thats the whole point, When Marxist authoritarians take over, they change the meanings of words and gasslight until people question reality and believe the opposite of reality (like trans) so they can reprogram people how they want to.. they have ZERO tolerance for those who dissent.

[@sakamotosan1887]

@@jondubois5347 But at the same time you can't just disregard valid criticism by calling it toxic or trolling. If you can't look at yourself and your own work and realize that certain criticisms have a point, you're in a cult.

[@Fraulein_Sausageball]

When a studio has the audacity to call the audience "ungrageful" for not seeing/appreciating whatever flavor-of-the-week they're doling out, it's indicative of their entire mindset. They do not consider us CUSTOMERS that they must impress, they consider us peasantry who are "withholding" the money that is "due" to them.

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

Yeah, the entertainment industry is a very cutthroat place. Especially when it comes to the audience.

[@ian-flanagan]

@@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324 I disagree. A real cutthroat industry improves the product and product-market fit etc. Entertainment is dominated by big companies and big franchises that get automatic views, almost regardless of quality. It's no where near cutthroat, and they've got too comfortable. It had to get this bad to have any affect on their profits

[@DoNotFearTheReapa]

@@ian-flanagan Whoosh. That part was sarcasm to set up for the "audience gets cut" joke.

[@euridionvult7814]

Marvelously put. Bravo.

[@DoNotFearTheReapa]

I think obviously there is a large divide between the audience and people who work on these things. I am sure the people that work in media have a deeper appreciation of the place things are coming from and the individual performance of artists and actors, compared to us who judge nothing but the finished product and measure it up to the giants we've seen before. I am on the side of "fuck Hollywood" and "it's all trash these days", but just saying, the people who are involved in working on this type of stuff have a much different appreciation and much different, lets say, priorities, from a viewer, and I can see why they may be flabbergasted by the general publics uncaring perception of things. It is largely the producers who greenlight this stuff and from get-go it's sloppy garbage, but let's be fair, we have been happily consuming sloppy garbage for a decade, so it must be jarring to suddenly have a lot of missing appreciation for the actors and directors who try to make it work.

[@Destroyyyahhhhh21]

Yes bro the first avengers movie was so amazing, Thor dr. Strange and captain America were my favorite individuals

[@kydayearctic5988]

There are two ways bring an unknown character to the screen. the first is by advertising it to be very intriguing like a hot or funny character. the second is to introduce them in a known character's story, and then make a movie, show, or game of them afterwards

[@wardog77]

Here's what's wrong with The Marvels 1. Captain Marvel sucks. 2. Ms Marvel was made for a niche audience. 3. Monica Rambeau was in Wandaverse for about 5 minutes. 4. the bad guy (girl) was horrible. 5. They stole the plot from Spaceballs.

[@OnePeopleOnelife]

Reasons why you thought The Marvels is bad 1. You're a guy 2. It's a bad movie

[@lupolinar]

You don't have to be a guy, to find The Marvels awful. @OnePeopleOnelife

[@tjwatson4324]

@@OnePeopleOnelifeyou’re part of the problem. The characters were great but that script was trash. The villain was horrible and spaceballs did it better. @wardog77 is right, sorry to burst your bubble. This has nothing about being a guy or girl. This purely entertainment and story telling. In my opinion, the marvels failed in both.

[@PineappleBaconPizza]

​@@OnePeopleOnelife Tons of women thought the movie was terrible. I have 3 sisters, and they all hated it and thought the first one was way better. Or are you saying my sisters are actually men as well because only men didn't like it? 🤔

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

​@@OnePeopleOnelifehow does one's gender have to do with a movie? Soo you're saying The Marvels are a movie for girls?

[@edmeister4031]

It's literally The Simpsons; "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are out of touch!" "Do we make bad movies/games/content? No! It's the fans who are toxic!"

[@joshh102]

@@aaakkk112you forgot Israel

[@Mubvekhar]

@@aaakkk112honestly, Soviet cinema was better than what Hollywood puts out these days.

[@araamahasla555]

@@Mubvekhar You just don't see the absolute shitpile of bad movies and cherry pick the ones that turned out good, usualy despite the state meddling and through impossible odds. Like Stalker or Come and See, there are thousands of movies for each that are unbearable propaganda slop.

[@Mubvekhar]

@@araamahasla555 have you seen ASSA, or the Shurik films, or White Sun of the Desert? Sure, for every movie that western audiences know, there is propaganda that throws all of that in the trash. But the Soviets, despite their political and cultural degradation, were able to create beauty, and I believe a lot of that came from imperial Russia. Film as a medium may have been corrupted, as it is in the west today, but real artists find a way. That’s what modern Hollywood is missing.

[@arctic3007]

​@@Mubvekhar Sputnik was pretty good tbh.

[@dominiciannucci5217]

My plastic lightsaber was my prized possession for awhile, so much fun with that thing. And yeah, no girls ever playing with them.

[@jurgenolivieira1878]

16:47 That armor looks like level 1 armor in a RPG... looks like it made of recycled soda cans. Even movies like Excalibur (1981) had amazing armors with just a small fraction of the budget they had.

[@siliciaveerah9327]

monty python and the holy grail had better looking armor

[@jurgenolivieira1878]

@@siliciaveerah9327 Ni!

[@kyphe.]

The Anne Hathaway part is a miss quote by the news agency. She never used the phrase "toxic online hatred", she said her identity had become toxic to Hollywood producers as they were afraid that her presence in a movie would cause harm due to how much anti Hathaway sentiment there was on the internet at the time, which no one can really explain the cause of. Christopher Nolan saved her career by giving her a part in Interstellar for which she is eternally grateful.

[@limlaith]

Thank you! Absolutely everyone misuses Anne Hathaway's situation.

[@MrKrusten]

@@limlaith What do people have against anne hathaway?

[@K05H]

I wasn't there were people who hated Anne Hathaway.

[@RiseofMortals]

Funny, because I think her character was pretty lame in TDKR. She's so scrawny, there's no way she'd ever be beating people up lol. I don't think she's particularly attractive, so all the seduction stuff was difficult to buy into. And her character was selfish with no real redeeming qualities, yet she gets with Bruce Wayne in the end.

[@kacpadestro8086]

Simps, all of you !

[@mattfromwiisports4910]

Step one : make terrible movie Step two : get mad people say movie terrible.

[@SmittyWJManJensen]

Step three: claim that you are being harassed by an elaborate conspiracy of incels

[@FZJanimated]

Hollywood is so rotten that i dont want US movies anymore. There is plenty of enterteinment overseas to enjoy.

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

​@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hellyet the quality of these products end up better than the ones in the US nowadays, nobody cares if its rotten.

[@Zeitgeist6]

@@SmittyWJManJensen Step four: Make fun of it at the Oscars. Cause they even made fun of Madame Web there.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

The thing that sucks is that this kind of mentality isn't limited to the entertainment industry. People do dumb things then make you seem like you're the devil for being realistic

[@khristophertanase3324]

Whatever the listed budget of a film is, you have to double the amount, due to the promotional budget usually being the same as the production budget, to determine the total cost of the film. Madame Web lost $270 million dollars, effectively.

[@Caiyde]

After Endgame, Marvel should've collapsed their roster down to five or six heroes again, and started building a cinematic universe from the start for each. Instead they just kept inflating the balloon until it popped. Should've let some air out, man. Imagine if they'd wrapped it up and just kept: 1. Spider-Man in New York, battling Kingpin. 2. Doctor Strange travelling the Multiverse, battling Kang. 3. Rocket having space adventures, doing the weird and wacky shit. 4. Sam & Bucky doing spy stuff. Then you give each of these concepts the whole treatment all over again, starting from the beginning. With Spider-Man you introduce all the street-level heroes and villains and maybe reconstruct the Defenders against a pyramid of villains with Kingpin at the top. Doctor Strange gives you the opportunity to do What If...? But live-action - introduce Captain Carter, Skrull Coulson, King Killmonger, etc. Then with Rocket, you rebuild the Guardians with new characters just like they did at the end of GOTG 3, and finally just do Secret Invasion with Sam, Bucky, and Fury. Basically take the air from the balloon that's about to burst and split it between four other balloons.

[@ericventurino9011]

The biggest problem with mainstream media anymore is the lack of creativity. They are just pulling from other pop culture sources and trying to ride the names. The halo show is a prime example. The director came out and said he never played or read halo and didn't care what people thought cause he was making his own story. These name grabs are just slapping actual fans in the face

[@Squeekysquid]

It's been like that for a bit now. It's been year since I've seen it, but there is a video that goes into why a lot of adaptations are shit. It highlights DragonBall evolution and the atla movie as examples. It's just like you said, they're just cashing in on the brand.

[@kyleellis1825]

That sucks. But look at how many people still go and see these things. The real issue is willful ignorance of society. Doesn't matter if we refuse to engage with terrible movies, the 50% or more of average people will.

[@cronus-kumo]

This! Honestly that halo thing was like the last nail on their coffin for me.

[@aftermodesmusic7440]

even that actress who is playing the role of snow white

[@multibeasty]

@@aftermodesmusic7440 the columbian? well they just call her snow, white

[@Bonesawisready926]

How about Hollywood focuses on writing good stuff. I love that instead of fixing their product they want to ban the people who point out their bad product.

[@bynflew8552]

it's cheaper

[@afurinperil]

@@bynflew8552 actually it really isn't. Writing is free. Lawsuits and buying media are not. They could fix their products by focusing on story and characters instead of political agendas and it would, not only be free for them to do, but would make them more money. But that isn't their interest

[@BrandonDenny-we1rw]

​@@afurinperil ....? Writing isnt free. Where did you hear this? Did you not hear about the writers strikes demanding more than $10,000 a month to write this garbage.

[@bynflew8552]

@@afurinperil idk majority of movies look kinda ass these days

[@RMartian76]

@@afurinperil Writing is not free or do writers not get paid where you are from? lol Writing also requires drafts and time which is also not free. Buying media is not all that expensive since most of them will do things for access and little else. Lawsuits for a company with a lawfirm at the ready cost peanuts.

[@taz275]

Oh wow, its almost like having critics in your pocket like an echo chamber doesnt help improve anything, wild

[@Zzazs]

15:47 when you make armor from a old chimney covers/vents lol

[@casualcausalityy]

"Who were the Marvels?" That says so much, a $250+ million dollar movie about characters no one cares about is madness

[@ryebread2603]

They fr took the character from their least popular movie, a character from their least popular show, and a character who was in wandavision for like 5 minutes with the cheesiest looking powers imaginable and thought it was a good idea to make a big budget team up movie about them.

[@Mattfreeman89]

At the same time you can't keep rehashing the same old thing. I think the real issue is the writing just isn't good.

[@ryebread2603]

@@Mattfreeman89allot of the newer movies/shows they are making also take material from comic series that failed like female Thor or falcon as captain America and die hard fans defend it by saying “well it happened in the comics”. And those things didn’t fake because of racism/sexism when Miles Morales is so well received and popular. Hes awesome. Why not do a movie with him instead of Jane foster as Thor when it was almost universally panned in the comics while Miles was loved.

[@stevensparks19]

@@Mattfreeman89I agree with this. I’m fine with them making movies about basically any character. All characters in comics have SOME epic moments and storylines to draw inspiration from. The issue is pushing an agenda and altering characters, their powers, backstories (which I’m FINE with if the writing is at least good, some things can be changed), and then doing a piss poor job at writing a script on top of that. To me, the reason marvel movies are doing poorly is the above reasons combined with seemingly a sacrifice in individual movie quality under the assumption people will still have the same interest and engagement towards the entire franchise. The infinity saga drew so many popular characters onto the screen, the post credit scenes didn’t take 6-7 movies to become relevant again, the individual movies (while I do maintain a lot of them aren’t very good) were just better than what they’ve been releasing. They’ve just given up, is how it ultimately feels.

[@Mattfreeman89]

@@stevensparks19 one hundred percent agree with your take.

[@PopcornMax179]

It's like they say, "the customer is always right". That doesn't mean the customer is actually right, but if you aren't working in service of what the customer wants, then the customer is going to leave.

[@yonkokaido6955]

The real quote works better. "The customer is always right.... in matters of taste". This is exactly the time to use the full quote.

[@MrInternetHermit]

@@yonkokaido6955 Exactly!

[@drewprew]

Hollywood misheard this quote as “The customer is always alt right”.

[@matthewmosier8439]

People forget that in c-o-m munism, the customer is at the mercy of people in charge. The saying is from ca-p-i talism and a lot of Hollywood is not c-a-p- italist

[@andrewgreeb916]

@@yonkokaido6955 "in matters of taste and dress." doesn't fix the customer having poor taste, but if the customer pays we will take their money.

[@judechauhan6715]

You know how they always tell you in art, in relationships, in adopting a cat etc just do your thing and who likes it will like it... trying to rebuild an already established franchise is like forcing someone to like you by including their favourite food in your top 10 list.

[@roidgaming1928]

the armor the people are wearing at 15:40 looks like they bought a lvl boost in Wow lmao

[@theatrain3568]

It's funny how when the movies before Endgame were successful, they didn't say it was because of the fans or the critics. But when they started to fail. That's when they shift the blame on us.

[@multiversity6290]

I agree. Imagine Hollywood being in the hamburger business instead of the movie business and decide on a whim to swap out their burger patties for tofu. Then when they wonder why no one goes to buy a burger from them they then lay blame for their business failings on the customer and attempt to fix their problem with guilt marketing by calling them animal killers. It boggles my mind that they are unable to recognise that it was their decision that put them on this path.

[@dkail08]

​@multiversity6290 this happens every day at work. "Hey there's problem x, and here's a possible solution ". Response: "I can't believe you're causing problem x. It's all your fault. " "The people pointing out the problem are the problem and should be attacked" - most people.

[@taku-ruki]

as someone who works retail. yes! customers somehow assume that me, stocking shelves, sitting at cash registers or cooking meals at our dinner can somehow decide what higher ups order, or i can control the fact that one person decides to buy up the entire stock of certain items, or that our delivery of food ingredients just didn't show up yet so we cant make our whole menu. people really love putting the blame on the first person they see or who looks like an easy target. @@dkail08

[@schwarz8614]

Of course, before you accepted all the slop, but now you don't wanna eat anymore. Its obviously your fault for not continuing to consoom

[@Tetrathegod]

They started to fail because of woke culture

[@rickallen8767]

Imagine blaming your failures on external factors versus taking responsibility for you own actions 🤡

[@WallNutBreaker524]

That's called "Woke Ego and Narcissism". 😂

[@rickallen8767]

@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hell Critics have zero fault on if a movie is bad what are you talking about?

[@ZebsAlleyOriginalMusic]

​@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hell You failed to actually address his point. How are critics responsible for a film being bad. Stop obfuscating by bringing up irrelevant things. What you described is literally a crime. Sending hate towards people and being vitriolic towards them is literally harassment. So to use a crime to obfuscate and act as though critics share some blame in a bad film is absurd. If I crash my car, it's not the manufacturers fault. It's mine. Let's say there's a manufacturing error that causes the crash, if I happen to be drunk then I'm still responsible not the manufacturer. Same here, it's not the reviewers fault that the film is bad. It's the reviewers fault if they intentionally send hate towards people and only for that. Them being a harassing dick doesn't magically make them share in the responsibility of the film being bad. Genuinely sit down and consider your argument and apply that logic to other situations and you might realize how absurd that position is.

[@casualcausalityy]

@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hell Just a weird coincidence there's never good word-of-mouth for the "unfairly" criticized movies huh?

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

In this case, yes. But sometimes it's a little bit of both. Regardless you can only control what you do. Not what others do. (Other than like information control and stuff)

[@hansethetooly5421]

part of why prey got flack was the director saying this was the first instance of the predators EVER being on earth ignoring the lore of the old days. i tried watching prey but fell asleep. alot of the modern hollywood movies and shows has me watching chinese korean and japanese movies and shows, upside found a bunch of cool shows i want to buy the box set of once made, can post if some want later.

[@carlstanford7607]

Prey was good. The drinkers review of it was that it was just ‘okay’. He wasn’t very negative. I don’t know why they misrepresented his position

[@6brutaka6]

If a movie is good, it will be watched. If its bad it will be ignored. If its an insult to its fandom, it will be hated. Take a guess as to what type of movies marvel has been making recently.

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@Get-me-out-of-Gacha-hell lol not the amount if people Disney wishes. Kenobi will have no 2nd season dude. What does that tell you? If it had been a success, ofc they would milk that. Btw OP, no, good movies can fail, and bad knew succeed, financially. Obscure good movies have been a thing, and Carl Manvers did succeed... Allegedly

[@marcfragezeichen8319]

Yes but they don't make any money, the acolyte series probably cost 200 million dollars and watch by around 800 k Person's in the US. Disney plus cost 11 billion since it's creation and ~16 billions in DVD sales.

[@mechwarrior13]

SW is dead, they butchered my boy. Never cared for Super hero movies because they are lazy bums. Imagine if all those heros existed, why would there still be crimes? They have to be the most inefficient workers of all time!

[@RainOn2SunnyDay]

if a movie is good or bad it will still be watch, otherwise how else would you know if it's good or bad, which is why the critics and reviewers are getting silenced. but it won't matter even if they get silenced, with enough money getting burned on low quality shows, people will find whatever ways possible to not spend more money on anyone related to the low quality movies

[@dannymoontattoos]

Seriously wtf was that last dr strange movie 😂😂😂😂 so much forced “woke” bullshit, ruined multiple characters and questionable power gaps, horrible CGI, confusing plot, I mean…..

[@aaakitsune]

There is 4 main "target audience" that works. 1: For men 2: For women 3: For boys and 4: For girls. "The modern audience" is a tiny niche that does not exist outside of California.

[@Fr00stee]

The trick to expanding your target audience is to combine 2 genres that each group likes individually into 1 movie, not trying to force one genre onto an audience that doesn't like it.

[@fernandocalzada9042]

​@@Fr00steeexactly, the movie pearl harbor comes to mind

[@jazg275]

@@fernandocalzada9042was a banger movie, also interstellar is amazing

[@justinsixx90]

Exxaactly!!!

[@hermanmelville3871]

Doesn’t exist in California either.

[@jjacobs4263]

Underworld borrowed a /LOT/ from world of darkness TTRPG universe, the world was fleshed out and many players of those games recognized it which helped it a bit in a cult-following sort of way. The hotness helped probably more.

[@DennisSlungard]

Phase 4 - 6 should have been centered around The X-Men and the F4 fighting Dr Doom and Magneto as their main villains with Galactus on the horizon like Thanos was in phase 1 - 3. The whole multiverse thing was dumb to focus so hard on. It could have been so good.

[@jvd3339]

Rings of Power was Blatantly Anti-Male. - Every woman was the smartest Warrior commanding all the power while Every Male was inferior in every way.

[@husky3g]

Which is hilarious considering all of the Kings of old were male. Galadriel was supposed to be an incredibly powerful sorcerer and incredibly old. Instead they tried to make her into something she's not, a "strong female fighter". She was a sorceress with immense power and said to be the most beautiful woman that existed, yet instead, they chose to nuke her character for wokeness. Tolkien would be ashamed of that abortion of a series.

[@TheSteelmushroom]

I didn't think that was the case. Elanor Brandyfoot and Poppy Proudfellow were just random female hobbits who were just trying to befriend the stranger who they didn't believe was completely evil and that was a pretty big storyline. Durin IV and Elrond had some prominent storylines and they weren't involved in the action but were pretty high ranking in their races while trying to settle a dispute between their factions while becoming closer friends. Though the series could of been better honestly. Like the pacing was quite slow and they didn't engage the audience enough or tie all of these storylines together well enough but I wouldn't say it was bad necessarily.

[@steak5599]

Nah... there is that Elf guy who kick everyone's ass. But my issue is they are making everyone around him dumb and weak to make him look strong.

[@user-jj2ip3bn9j]

So is Resident Alien that new show it's annoying af

[@gordonlove5121]

​@TheSteelmushroom the majority of people, like myself, didn't finish the series. I think I made it like 3 or 4 episodes in. I LOOOOVE LoTR and I couldn't stand it. It was so clearly an agenda pushing pile of garbage that had NOTHING to do with the world, characters and story Tolkien wrote. You're right, it wasn't bad, it was an abomination.

[@someone890]

"Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product"

[@JoshDTech]

That meme is a classic.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Peak consumerism.

[@asallee2]

Peter Parker is Spider-Man and Miles Morales is Miles Morales.

[@rayner1427]

I literally fell asleep during the 2nd Hobbit. No fucking kidding. I was like 22 at the time and literally fell asleep at the CINEMA

[@osier769]

Another thing that ruined Hollywood, far more than any YT critic, is social media. Actors, directors and the like no longer stay in their lane as entertainers, there's no mystique left around them, many would be better off keeping their real selves and idiotic personal thoughts to themselves.

[@popopopoool]

brother as much as I agree with u. u cant stop ppl from having an opinion I do agree they should just act and take the bag and not say shit but thats mostly cuz i'm still poor but i imagine if u were rich enough u dont care as much about money hence they start to tell others what they think. if they make less money because of their opinions thats their decision and they know that i just dont think that money is as vaulable to them as much as expressing their opinion

[@domehammer]

I miss when actors just acted... a lot of actors are just such awful human beings they are unwatchable. Which you never heard about before because actors wouldn't go on social media.

[@SammEater]

The whole circus back in 2020 showed to the average joe that the usual Hollywood clown is completely disconnected from reality.

[@PopeMical]

Hollywood is upset that instead of going to the theater and finding out you hated it you are going to KZbin and realizing A LOT of new movies are just really bad.

[@xaayer]

For free!

[@questlazy122]

I think what these studios are missing is. Channels like nerdrotic and Critical drinker were not always negative channels. During phases 1-3 most of the reviews were positive. The negativity is a reflection of how the audience feels. Getting rid of the critics won’t suddenly change peoples minds.

[@roscoepcg]

As a 55 year old comic nerd I had never heard of Madame Web or Morbius. That is why I did not go and see them. Not because of review bombing. I have never, nor ever will, watch or not watch a movie on the basis of reviews. Either in Newspapers/Magazines or youtube. I have enjoyed movies that were panned by critics and not liked movies raved about. It's about personal taste and interest.

[@glenmcl]

Funny thing is, The Critical Drinker is a successful Published Author. He knows about writing.

[@RodrigoEmanuel]

Nobody knew about the Guardians of the Galaxy before the movies. The group was on the back side of the B Tape from Marvel HQs. It took one good story and one good director to make a movie hit about them. Doesn't matter if the people don't know the characters. Just give them a good movie and they'll get interested.

[@VerGiLL1]

Yeah, the whole "Nobody likes them, because nobody knows them" is pretty flawed. People don't like them because they are bad movies. It dosen't help that the super hero genre is extremly saturated and almost every movie feels the same, they on top of that release garbage movies. The genre needs to expand and brake the mold, that's why Joker, Batman, Logan are success and hilghly rated, because altough they are still "comic book movies" that is not their whole identity. Joker is a self-contained story about a disturbed loner, Batman is a noir detective mistery ala Seven, Logan is a road-movie western about a fallen hero. These are all wildly unique stories withing the Super hero genre that iis why they are hits, every Marvel movie feels so similar at this point that people are just tired of it.

[@edvaedan9161]

Yeah I agree. Sure it helps if the characters are known but word of mouth made GotG big

[@emi-ber]

madam web is not even supposed to be a hero. she is supposed to be the omniscient cosmic being responsable for making so the spidermen in the multiverse become spidermen instead of dying from mutated spider poison. But that’s not the problem of the movie. The problem of the movie is that the entirety of the movie is a massive narrative plot hole. As soon as you start thinking about what is happening in the movie you realize that nothing makes sense.

[@cooltiger2439]

As someone who got some DVDs of the old 90s Spider-man cartoon, madam web was awesome. While I haven't seen the movie , it looks like they tried to make a spiderwoman movie and call it Madam Web. The og was like if you crossed aunt may with the watcher. She served a sorta yoda role , it was implied she had great power and all the awnsers but it wasn't here place to save the day. She was a mentor not the hero.

[@mykra9905]

Jeremy Jahns is probably the fairest online critic I've seen during my entire time on KZbin. Trying to claim he's an online toxic troll attacking their franchises instantly loses me.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

Yea they have no credibility for going at the guy Jeremy Jahns. You can tell he makes a conscious effort to be fair even if the movie is a steaming pile

[@fersuremaybek756]

is more on the other end of it lol swallowing the tripe

[@dandel84]

Agreed! Jeremy is very fair in his reviews!

[@PrimoPete]

You are either with them or against them. So of course someone's who's inoffensive, has never talked politics and not peddling their rhetoric is evil.

[@summerrunner1755]

Dan Murrell is great too

[@ZerO_Manzoku]

Isn't this the whole reason Henry cavill got pushed out of the Witcher? Cause he wanted to follow the story and uphold its original story

[@NathanKnight-kc7yj]

Yes it is. And that’s why Henry cavill is a chad

[@glenmcl]

Yes. Writers wanted to follow the woman and not the Witcher.

[@ryebread2603]

The writers even said they read the source material and laughed at it on set. They made Fringilla a black woman and Yennefer an East Indian woman when in the books they are supposed to look so similar that Geralt accidentally bones Fringilla thinking it’s Yennefer

[@artistanthony1007]

Yes, definitely is that reason.

[@Billygaming1447]

24:43 oh I remember getting that I got the green one I loved it was so cool I still have it it's actually with me in my room right now, I love how you just brought back a old memory that I cherish, I really love the Mandalorian series on Disney because I grew up with Boba Fett and the other mandalorians love Mandalorian so when I see my favorite Mandalorian oh that made me happy.

[@sethjacobs8523]

Most movies now n days feel like 1 season of a TV show than a movie

[@Heidao623]

After Tony snapped his fingers, it was done, we just have a years long epilogue

[@carlosalbertogarciajimenez5879]

The only epilogue I cared was Guardians of the Galaxy, and boy I wasn't disappointed. Goodbye MCU.

[@Zanroff]

It was over when Thanos snapped his fingers and marvel didn't leave half the marvel universe dead.

[@SF-eo6xf]

​@@Zanroffyep IW was the end. EG already was part of the decline

[@hannahloumen2241]

The 3rd spider-man movie with TOBY MAGUIRE was the epiloge and the very end of the MCU for me. 🤐

[@MysticCat21]

the only mcu stories and heroes i'm still invested in rn are TH's Spiderman & Shang-chi. Spiderman cuz after no way home we finally completed the prologue to spidey's story, where he's now a friendly neighborhood spiderman who struggles to juggle his work, finances, social life, & relationships with his heroism. So i hope to see more mature & grounded spidey stories since i've gotten very fond of Tom Holland's iteration of the character. Shang-chi i'm mildly invested in cuz the movie was decent, and i want to see more martial arts action in the MCU. Shang-chi i feel kinda underdelivered the martial arts aspects and i want to see more of it. Then there's Deadpool 3 finally joining the MCU. Not sure what to expect cuz i love the deadpool 1&2 movies, but unsure how they'll tackle his entry into the mcu.

[@gracelynwow]

The thing I don't get about hollywood pushing females to be the primary cast is like, why not hot men?? Since when do women only want to watch other women? Legolas was hot. Anakin was hot. the entire TWILIGHT movie? Women WANT to look at men more often than not, sexual appeal goes both ways... and nobody wants to watch a show where the entire cast is mediocre-looking women on top of terrible writing.

[@beerten202]

Exactly Women wanna watch hot dudes I wanna watch hot women And nobody wants to watch an obnoxious character

[@ryebread2603]

Which makes it even funnier to me that modern movies and games will still have hot men but allot of the hot women are excluded or toned down for the movie to be “more realistic” for the “modern audience”

[@SilencedWind]

@@ryebread2603because the people complaining don’t play games.

[@Usmc86]

This is such a good point definitely a break through revelation

[@DumbCreative]

They've thrown everyone else under the bus for the trans people.

[@ExeErdna]

They spend 5 years plus making things with THEIR OWN FOCUS GROUPS going "this some trash redo it" yet they blame critics? Their own in house is why something had 4 reshoots. It's their own fault their movie has weird cuts because so much footage is on the floor that was force to be removed. It's THEIR scripts that are scorned by their own first before we even get to see it. This show Hollywood really lost the plot...

[@galaxybird8063]

Who would have thought retiring almost every hero that makes marvel, marvel, would end badly

[@denkerbosu3551]

Ironman wasn't a popular character at all before the movie. It took a good movie to kickstart the MCU.

[@metronome8471]

It wasnt even a superhero movie, it was a documentary of RDJ life if he had a suit of power armor.

[@haplessgolem805]

And Ironman was cast, filmed, edited and produced before Disney took over Marvel Studios.

[@ryebread2603]

It’s wild to me to see how easily recognized iron man is for kids when back in grade 3 for me a kid brought in an animated iron man movie and 97% of my class was like “who tf is iron man?” Same thing with deadpool. We would play super hero’s at recess and one kid would always pick deadpool to be and a bunch of us thought he was making that character up.

[@nemdenemam9753]

I definitely think that iron man 1 is one of the best marvel movies. However Iron man was a pretty big deal if you read comics and he even had a pretty cool cartoon. Although I agree that the movie elevated him to a new level

[@Omegeddon]

​@@haplessgolem805Barely. Disney bought Marvel the very next year in 2009

[@Secret_Pickle]

Peter Jackson completely mic dropped LoTR. There is no reason for anyone to touch it ever again.

[@devyncole2043]

I'd like to see a new really good Hellboy if they bought hellboy's IP and I don't know if a reboot would be good, but something I'd like something more

[@playerman120]

32:35 because it’s THEIR movie/game and everyone NEEDS to love it. Everyone.

[@D0S81]

its funny that they whine we ragged on Disneys Pinocchio remake, but dont mention how many people loved Guillermo Del Toro's adaptation of Pinocchio because they dont want to admit that they made a bad movie and would rather say we hate bombed it, instead of admitting it was because we just preferred the way better written movie.

[@Alorso_]

This reminds me of the backlash the sonic the hedgehog movie got for the character designs, except they actually listened to the criticism and resigned accordingly, which not only saved the movie but turned it into a successful trilogy, criticism is valuable and companies need to listen to it because ultimately consumers decide what's successful in the end

[@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm]

It really is the simple principle that you cash in big if you just give people what they demand. If you're a child in an adult body clinging to your doctrine ideology and rather double down and huff and puff...you flop. Because how dare anyone critisize your perfect work.

[@TommyTipex]

Turns out giving the customer what they want is profitable, who could have imagined?

[@darthmalum6024]

i think that was a marketing strategy to get everyones eyes on the movie, they were never going to release the movie with that design, people are too dumb to see the obvious.

[@fuwamiusagi]

The studio went bankrupt because of that iirc

[@antares3030]

@@darthmalum6024tinfoilhat squad is already here, I see

[@sun_beams]

To the point about movies being controlled, check out the film Babylon. The state of movies prior to sound was a totally different world.

[@hisdudeness7564]

I went to see the Hobbit with my brothers and step dad, and as we're getting up and leaving my stepdad is like "well that sucked!" 😂

[@Iscream4j0y]

First they came for the dislike button, now they're coming for literally anyone speaking out

[@danielthecritic88]

And they are winning that war. These big corporations are absolutely caving. They are pathetic spineless virtue signallers.

[@DavidTMSN]

They want NPC consumption. They're not interested in receiving actual critique. They're not interested in whether or not you like their video games. You're supposed to shut up, purchase the product, consume it - rinse and repeat. You'll ingest whatever ideological dogma they want you to. Any wrong think is problematic. Anyone not with the program will be deemed at hate monger. "Don't like She-Hulk" - hate monger. "Don't like denigrating video games"...hate monger.

[@TheChudoviste]

EXACTLY!

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

Basically using race, gender and Sexual preferences for money laundering.

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

It's more like they wanna remain in a system that is failing them rather than restructuring their system to make more long-term profits.

[@acemax1124]

Yes that's exactly what they want 100% 🎯

[@SammEater]

​@@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324All the talented people left, either retired, blacklisted or died of old age. That is why they must keep the circus going because they have no talent left to make something that people actually want to watch.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

I'm a big time Marvel comic fan from way back. I know just about every obscure character. I would love to see those characters in movies if the movies were good!

[@respawnredemption7997]

Hollywood: "Your dumb and wrong and we don't want you!" Us: "Why do you beg us to pay attention than?"

[@super_tang0_64]

I was in Milan, Italy before Rings of Power came out, and the promo was INSANE. There were giant 20-stories-tall banners plastered on luxurious buildings and boutiques everywhere in the city. Your eyes couldn't escape it. This had the highest budget for a TV show (and its marketing) EVER. Not so different from the Marvel or Star Wars brands of this world today. Yet these companies have the audacity to claim that youtubers and online comments are the source of their failures; that they sway the masses away from their wonderful content. Not their abysmal scripts, lack of vision, terrible editing, trend chasing tendencies, poor production value, staggering budgets, bad hirings, incalculable reshoots, overdone ideologies/politics, and overall incompetence. No. It's the mean comments on the internet. Of course.

[@MrCandDproductions]

Jeff had to pay for his divorce somehow.

[@carljohan9265]

The fact that they claim internet critics are the reason for their fails is kinda funny when you think about it, because it means they are indirectly saying that said critics have immense power :)

[@SammEater]

The fact they want to blame american youtubers for movies failing worldwide is the funniest part. I am the only member of my family that speaks english, no one else here is watching the Critical Drinker yet the Hollywood slop still flopped here and everyone is making fun of Hollywood.

[@Sentinelll]

I still don't understand how they made a (half?) billion dollar series and then let two guys with ZERO real experience take the lead. Maybe get at least one good writer with all that money? ChatGPT could have written that insane script.

[@super_tang0_64]

@@Sentinelll Supposedly they were recommended by JJ Abrams, somehow, for some reason. I don't think a proven track record has more power than just.. good connections.. in Hollywood nowadays. Check the writers for Madame Web, Rise of Skywalker, Aquaman 2, the last Jurassic World, etc. - all movies with bloated budgets employing writers that do nothing but hot garbage. No idea how this can actually happen.

[@pinkafboi2525]

Underworld, Æon Flux, Elektra and Ultraviolet. Damn, those were the days of femme fatale movies.

[@scottneil1187]

Only Underworld is any good, the other 3 were bloody awful, didn't see Hollyweird pissing and moaning at fans when they massively flopped back then.

[@vexile1239]

... I went to see all 4 because the leads were hot

[@lupolinar]

We saw Ultraviolet in the cinema..what a waste of money and time.

[@SammEater]

He is right about Underworld, I really watched because of that lady. She was hot.

[@trelard]

Wasn't Madam Web in the Spiderman game where you played different VERSIONS of Spiderman as a central character? It's been a while since I played it, but that's what sprung to mind when she was brought up.

[@cooltiger2439]

In hindsight they should scraped the live-action spider-woman wanna be film, and just put her in spiderverse. That's her thing , she oversees the web of life.

[@billcipher3180]

3:00 Madam Web is the REAL Spider Woman(people called the other Spider Woman Spider Gwen to avoid confusion) she also ended up replacing that storyteller or whatever the fuck it was called when it got eaten by extradimensional vampires that exclusively feed on superheroes and eldritch beings(comics are weird) and that's what lead to her being renamed to "Madam Web"... she also appeared in Spiderman shattered dimensions for the PS3

[@Justintime2grow]

I can't believe he didn't point out the fact that "Madame Web" is a terrible fucking name for a super hero. Hell, "Spiderbitch" would have done better.

[@RoyalStarlord]

A movie titled something like "The Infinite Bimbo Spider Brothel" would create an instant cult following im pretty sure.

[@shant0]

no, lol

[@GorpaDorpOrp]

She's in the comics, but she NOT a main character by any stretch

[@aredjayc2858]

She's a secondary mentor type character, not a superhero

[@JonaD757]

She's a blind and paralyzed woman who can see the future. She works fine as an advisor or helper to Peter, but she's not meant to be a superhero.

[@Niikkos]

Anne Hathaway slight was out of context lol. She is not apart of this. She made a statement that studios were turning her away because her online brand in 2013 come off toxic to the studios from the typical online trolls giving her hate. Chris Nolan didn’t care and gave her another role in Interstellar. Her career bounced back. Thats it, thats the story. It has nothing to do with the modern era of being ‘woke’ or women in movies.

[@cmoney163]

Some KZbinrs need to actually read some of these articles instead of just copy pasting to fit a narrative.

[@CaptainCastle]

​@@cmoney163yeah just youtubers, not the population writ large

[@cmoney163]

@@CaptainCastle Did I say that though??

[@danboyd6180]

15:45 they bought the armor from Medieval Times

[@ironyusedincorrectly]

Kind of feels like everyone forgot about Siskel and Ebert. They made Roland Ememerich so mad with their criticisms of Stargate and Independence Day, that he parodied them in Godzilla (1998) and made them the grossly incompetent mayor and his aide. I think it was Roger Ebert who said he didn't go far enough, and should have had the parodies killed by the monster. Critics and Hollywood have been going at it for a very long time.

[@MrSlapdash243]

Back in medieval times actors were classed as the lowest of the low. Now they think they’re holier than thou.

[@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam]

Make Stars into Gypsies Again!😂

[@dickbehringer7064]

Ancient Rome, too. They weren’t even considered citizens.

[@-RXB-]

Because being good at acting is the same thing as being good at lying. It's essentially the same skill. In these cases I think it's often more a film production company thing than an actor thing though. They're making films to make money from the plebs, and not to make something that's actually good. A great movie starts with an idea that would make a great movie, not "ok now we need to come up with something to make more money, we need to release another movie next year". It's completely backwards. The story just ends up being generic, soulless crap with plastic-looking props and half-assed acting. And when it flops and the audience doesn't like it, they get angry because they don't get returns on their "investment" and try to find scapegoats.

[@Hexley_Vexley]

Acting is basically playing "Let's pretend" for money...

[@flatline8199]

The crazy thing is that Disney bought Star Wars and Marvel specifically to bring in a male audience, 'cos previously it was mostly women. Men were the new audience Disney wanted.

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

If that’s true, that is hilarious

[@K05H]

3:13 Just to prove how bad it was at Marvel, they had the chance to give us a Black Widow movie before they killed the character in Endgame and they decided, no let's do a Captain Marvel movie instead.

[@K05H]

It's not just Marvel either,lwe can all laugh now at Madame Webb but on paper anything you put Sydney Sweeney has no excuse to make a loss. People will show up for at least two of her talents on the big screen and you'd never recognize her in the film.

[@SammEater]

Word of mouth is still strong. They can ban all they want. People will look at a bad movie and then they tell their friends, which will tell to their families which in turn will tell to their friends.

[@dantehajime709]

They will sue them too. How dare they have a justified opinion!

[@Kefka2010]

​@dantehajime709 Who is suing? The Black Gamer Girl thing sounded like someone accused them of illegal hiring practices and they're suing for defamation. I don't see anything wrong with that. Is someone else from "Hollywood" suing people for reviews and I haven't reached that part of the video?

[@crashzone6600]

Thanos was the end. Why do i need to continue watching movies that dont want me to watch them? They keep saying, "this movie isnt for you!" And then getting mad when i dont watch the movie. They arent making action movies for men, so is it really surprising when men dont watch? They arent entitled to our dollars, but they sure act like they are. They targeted women and racists, so it is entirely women's and racists fault if those IPs fail.

[@JK-jw3po]

Do you know what caused the drastic change after endgame? I mean, I thought Disney got the rights to produce marvel movies after endgame, so I thought that's the reason why the quality dropped, but it says they already bought the movie rights in 2009. So I was wondering what the reason was for such a drastic change.

[@WereWolfWoody]

I'm sorry but phase 4 wasn't doomed at first, bro. Loki was fucking awesome and so was Wandavision. The started making everything woke is why it is failing. People are claiming that they are tired of marvel only because they can't let it seem like all the woke bullshit is ruining what they used to love!

[@KiryuSeiran]

I like the epilogue.. But after Spiderman and their multiverse crossover I got done... it was epilogue peak... heck I loved the bamboozle us into believe they skipped the intro of the basic story. But then outside Antman (guilty pleasure)... in place of Eternals I would have gone seen a Daredevil movie again.

[@crashzone6600]

@JK-jw3po no the change started before endgame. It started with black panther and then captain Marvel, which was when Disney started their ESG push into marvel, however the change started even prior to that with star wars. That was their "the future is female" or rather the "force is female" motto started to appear, and it simply went into their other IPs. Although many people will try to gaslight and say those films weren't woke, the first massive backlash and advertising for Marvel films being woke happened then. That was also the first real great fall in the quality of Marvel films. If you've heard about it, there was preferential treatment being given out for investments for projects that adopted ESG principles. This is why many companies have been adopting woke ideology because investment managers are prioritizing giving money to companies like the current Disney, or at least they were. I don't know how much longer they can do that if these investments don't see any actual returns. Is suspect that the investments managers would be opening themselves up to anti-trust laws, seeing as the investments they are making is infact now purposefully losing the money for 401Ks across america. I've also been hearing that the ESG dollars have been drying up, especially in Japan (since I'm more concerned about anime and gaming at the moment), but I don't know how true that is.

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

​@@crashzone6600I feel like the ESG money comes out of the government's pockets. Which is why Japan stopped, because once Japan's money dries up, no one can get bailouts.

[@TizianuMenzukialu]

they should make a realitu "hell sets" like hell kitchens but for studios

[@s_t_e_v_e_n_]

Girls don't use light sabers? Yeah, okay. My mom has a drawer full of them next to her bed.

[@01NATHAN10]

We need to go back in time where actors were on the bottom of society

[@toddtaylor6506]

Just need to go back to a time when they knew criticism of a movie wasn't a personal attack on them.

[@janitorizamped]

Lol? When were actors the bottom of society?

[@01NATHAN10]

@@janitorizamped Rome, they were looked at as freaks, maybe other cultures as well cant speak on that

[@janitorizamped]

@@01NATHAN10 that's more of a misconception. Romans hated certain actors, but over the course of nearly 1000 years of "Roman" culture with no defined end point often gets lumped together so people think that all actors were hated.

[@Madchris8828]

Most people I know already do think that. My family and most of my friends rarely watch movies at all anymore