World of Warcraft: Pandora's Box | A͏s͏mongold Reacts to the Rise & Fall of WoW by MadSeasonShow

[@davidl4312]

In the army I went to an advanced IED course and the first thing the head instructor did was play the Leroy Jenkins video to show how even the best plans can go to shit. I was absolutely blown away to see it. Circa 2007

[@SeedlingNL]

The video was staged, but it became a meme nevertheless...

[@Xazamas]

@@SeedlingNL Allegedly it was based on a previous guild run that went basically the same but was not recorded

[@jurpledrank6437]

We had a CQC course we did overseas on deployment and when we breached a building, our NCOs would blast leeroy Jenkins

[@gamerelated8985]

Yea no you didn't and there's no such thing as advanced IED course in the army... There's an IED school that all 89D go to... Nothing advanced lol... And they don't joke... You don't just take an IED course... Nice lie you made up just to tell that story...

[@Eksistenssi]

@@gamerelated8985 are you assuming everyone is american?

[@TimeyWimey.]

As a child, WoW was one of those games that I only dreamt of playing, thinking it was the pinnacle of video games. This was only heightened by the fact that my mother forbade me from playing it, thinking it was a waste of time (which isn't necessarily wrong). TBH that feeling is probably one of the only reasons why i still play from time to time.

[@ivannakic9922]

community

[@chigchug283]

@@ivannakic9922 ppc

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

my mother thought it was evil because it was an entire world... of crafting war. With a name like that, it has to be evil. I'm glad that my parents attempted to parse what was going in my eyes and ears before it did. Parents today see that it's basically impossible and don't try at all.

[@greatestever3094]

I’ve always felt like that but I feel like it’s too late to play it 😭 is it still worth getting? I really need to know

[@TimeyWimey.]

@@greatestever3094 personally, id wait for the next expansion. I've heard people say that it's improved lately, but you have to wade through the garbage built up since the start of shadowlands in order to get to the new stuff.

[@Scruffytuba]

WoW was a once in a life time experience that I truly feel we will never see again as gamers. Vanilla - WotLK was absolute peak gaming because of the pure, raw fun and the relationships we made. Blizzard is dead now, and tbf....what did we expect? You can only get so high before you gotta come back down. What I wouldnt do to go back to 2008 for a little while to drink Mountain Dew WoW Game Fuel, have Ventrilo open all night, and just run dailies with my highschool friends with Adult Swim playing on the tv in the background. RIP to an absolute era.

[@ian999ify]

You're 38

[@Scruffytuba]

@@ian999ify your math is bad

[@ClovenTerra]

@@Scruffytuba Are you playing SOD? I know its never gonna be the same again but it feels damn close

[@Scruffytuba]

@@ClovenTerra im not. I dont have the time for that anymore. 😔

[@bill0804]

Fantastic game!

[@starkdilemma4916]

Blizzard is the living embodiment of the phrase "Great empires are not destroyed by outside armies, they are destroyed from within."

[@MeatSim64]

Should be a proverb. Make it so.

[@andycanadas]

Its been destroyed by Activision

[@starkdilemma4916]

@@andycanadas but it started with the idea of bringing in outside investors. FFS the celestial steed cash shop mount made more money than StarCraft 2.

[@KyloB]

​@starkdilemma4916 microtransactions are just insanely popular, despite us all complaining, many people hand over their money constantly. Hell, genshin impacts yearly income from MTX is more than the entire sales profits of Elden Ring since it launched. Let that sink in. Fifa ultimate team rakes in something to the tune of 1.2+ BILLION per year.

[@kingpingaming4503]

Asmon is like that one guy that always reminisces about being the high school quarterback, but instead it's about when Blizzard made good games.

[@AndersonHershey]

Yasssss king, and what a glorious time it was

[@minimalhostage]

Could throw a football over them mountains

[@qunt100]

@@minimalhostage Here, watch this kip.

[@arax20]

@@odenoki9571 lmao asmon's not the only human in existence. Most comments are for interacting with other community members not asmon directly.

[@Andy_Classic]

@@minimalhostage *gets steak thrown at face while riding bike*

[@rickflorida3838]

Dude I can’t believe your mom played. All I ever wanted was to play a game with my parents. I wish I could get them to play to this day. Especially a mmo it would be a awesome bonding experience.

[@brainrich1358]

That would be pretty sick ngl. Instead of movie night, after dinner gaming or holiday family gaming would be fun

[@willg1944]

If runescape never existed, wow would have been even bigger, immense

[@Vinlaell]

I got my mom into Minecraft now she's super addicted plays all the time every day for years now I have long burned out

[@CYBER_FunkER]

"PWNED - Perfectly Owned" Holy fuck I'm in my late 20s and I'm just now learning that's what that meant.

[@skraminc]

I thought it was just an assumed misspelling of owned because the p is next to o and would be a common typo. That was where "kik" came from, it was just a column over from lol

[@swampthing7234]

@@skraminc you're correct, pwned was born from a typo, it caught on as a more sweaty way of putting someone down for a loss. started becoming common use from around the time of early Counterstrike builds.

[@XDeathPenguinX]

I'm going to go back to calling people noobs and telling them get pwned

[@skraminc]

@@XDeathPenguinX it got so overused by thr late 2000s that it was almost cringe. Its probably been long enough to give it a comeback

[@ekscalybur]

That's because that's not what it meant. Not even a tiny bit. Asmon likes to talk about Vanilla, but he wasn't there. He started right before TBC launched, he doesn't know what he's talking about when its about vanilla because he was never there. It shows up every once in a while.

[@LockeRobsta]

One of the best "troll" moments I remember was on a forum where a guy was giving a eulogy for his son or brother who had passed away and wanted to let all his friends on the forum know. The FIRST FUCKING REPLY was "did he drop any good loot"?

[@tfromthasix1956]

Yoo that's beyond fucked up but I can't help but laugh my ass off reading this 🤣

[@firelord4662]

Legendary lol

[@firelord4662]

@@Vihara2 Nobody cares

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

Yup, that's WoW for ya.

[@アマ-p2l]

The original Barrens chat was more evil than that. They made people search for Mankirks wife everywhere in the world I think I ended up in Booty Bay or Westfall following the advice people gave me in the Barrens chat. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of hours have been spent looking for her in the wrong place after asking in chat.

[@BadJuice]

For those of us who were there throughout the golden era of wow, we truly experienced something special

[@imeverywhereandnowhere56]

I will cherish those memories. Some of the best times of my life. I forgot the real world existed lol.

[@Asdone22]

yes and no. best gaming memories of my life? yes. Was I super irresponsible and failed out of college my first try? also yes lmao

[@dougfoster445]

Not bragging but I was actually in the closed beta for WoW...At the time Wow and everyquest 2 were racing towards the goal of being the magnum opus of video games...I played both and knew that WoW was going to be special when I beta tested the game for a year. It really was next level shit.

[@jamesrose6751]

Damn straight bro

[@milosv123344]

2004 - 07 was the golden era for basically all of PC gaming

[@Dungaipara]

It was something about vanilla wow having these huge barren zones, everything felt like a mystery and a huge adventure, especially having to walk everywhere. I remember skipping school and just being immersed in ashenvales ambience with the wisp sounds, just such magical experience. The world felt mysterious and dangerous like running into bough shadow where the elite dragonkins were, like what are they guarding? it just felt so cool to explore. These days wow is just a themepark on rails experience.

[@johndyr6320]

You mean these days everything is available on the internet and players are WAY too busy being optimal instead of absorbed. You can still approach it as a mystery if you want.

[@RaxoFilms]

Its because the game wasnt figured out / datamined to bits look at classic and then re-read your comment

[@k1mpman]

Even without the mystery I had a lot of fun in classic. Of course, nothing can win the first time around with all the effects you mentioned but playing together as a group or slowly going through it was still a lot of fun. I took 2 weeks vacation off my work when classic release and I got to 60 within that and instantly made a new characters minutes after reaching 60 to level a new character with an irl friend. Later on, me and 3 other friends made all-dwarf playthrough where we named us after the dwarfs from snowwhite and semi-roleplayed trying to find snowwhite in azeroth. Sure, I raided and cleared everything that was available when I was active but the most fun I had was the times I found a external idea about the game and played the game according to that. Be that hardcore, a class combo with irl mate or dummy-rp dwarfs it was always the most fun I had.

[@Donnirononon]

This, WoW was for me the first game that was truly open world. WoW uses a tiled world loading approach similar to minecraft, yet other MMO's use instances, rooms and so on. No other game to this date matches the open world'ness of WoW.

[@RaxoFilms]

To add you can feel this feeling for, any expansion really if you are new to the game. I felt the same in MoP when i was new, WoD not so much but MoP was special to me

[@radekplodzien263]

WoW was the first metaverse where physically you were in real world but mentally you were 100% in the game, to the point where you could focus on the game so much you would literally forget about everything else and become a real character in online world. I think game corresponded really well with the movies like the Matrix about people who were integrated into the system so much that they didn't even know they were a part of it. Period from mid 90's to late 2000's is called Golden Age of Gaming due to fact that so many popular and influential games were released during that time but also because the games were made by real gaming enthusiasts for other gaming enthusiast and unlike today, gaming was mostly seen as alternative and even slightly childish hobby and wasn't such a massive market it is now. Microtransactions were almost unheard of back then and a lot of companies genuinely cared about developing fun and quality games with a lot content.

[@offlineraided]

Meh I couldnt get nearly that immersed into WoW, when Final Fantasy 11 launched on PS2 then PC now that was immersive

[@xx-cb2wf]

@@offlineraided how man? I have a 75DRG/35 WAR and played it before WoW and the immersion just never compared to a wow PVP server. The dynamics were so much more fluid. Like being in an area just to farm some herbs and you see a lowbie in /1 getting ganked then you go and save him and 4 months later he's in a party with you in dire maul talking about how you saved his ass back in the day. FFXI was good but it was nowhere near wow level back when WoW was in it's prime. WoW today is a joke but the old days were untouchable imo. FFXI just didn't have good PVP. Ballista was terrible and the concept of farming and how every spawn point (looking at you valkrum dunes) was constantly camped by RMT was just ridiculous. In WoW if that happened you would just kill them and camp them until they left. When Classic WoW came out I would camp RMT gold sellers and they would find my name on the server discord and rage out on me in stuff like indonesian. It was great. Too bad they're too far gone and not only removed pvp servers but removed all the fun emotes like /spit /fart /burp /sneeze /slap etc.

[@offlineraided]

@@xx-cb2wf WoW was always a bit lacking in story telling for me, Square Enix consistently writes good stories with good characters with plenty of lore and easter eggs the player can spend hours enjoying

[@xx-cb2wf]

@@offlineraided different strokes for different folks I guess. I could see that. I also made some good friends in FFXI that I miss and still think about over a decade later so there is truth to both games for sure.

[@offlineraided]

@@xx-cb2wf definitely

[@TosselMusic]

I've watched this reaction an unhealthy amount of times

[@COWENS986]

Same

[@FGazi-qf1hp]

​@@COWENS986 Same.

[@CptRonSolo]

Same

[@xSuperCartmanx]

The intro sucks me in everytime I always am about to change to another video and then the intro kicks in

[@BeachLookingGuy]

I hope y’all are giving mad season some views on it

[@dead9910]

People tend to forget how well written the story of Arthus M. (The Lich King) actually was. The books were absolutely fantastic.

[@godhero2566]

My man. That's what most people know from warcraft was the arthas arc

[@tiffles3890]

@@godhero2566 We all just wish lore standards in WC were back to those times where this franchise could put out stories like that (though it's certainly not going to happen).

[@godhero2566]

@@silentservant_ It's more amazing when lich king is Activision and arthas is blizzard

[@TornSilencio]

@@godhero2566 true...I couldn't stop hearing about it back then, before and after release. The fact that it blew up AGAIN for the re-release of wotlk on classic is incredible.

[@silver2zilver]

@@godhero2566 WE loved it because we were arthas. We were the ones decieved my mal ganis. We felt his need to defend his people. We willingly did everything so to face arthas was to face ourselves

[@darklord2626]

When WOTLK came out, I was only 11 years old. My mom took me to gamestop at midnight and we waited in line for me to get it. I got home, started the install, and couldn't play that night because it took so long. She let me stay home thursday and friday so I could play with my friends. That era of gaming was truly one to be cherished. I haven't though of this in so many years. Great video.

[@brainrich1358]

Man, I remember when midnight launches were events. A favorite memory of mine was when my brother, my cousins, and I went to the Halo 3 and Reach midnight launch. As we waited for midnight, the Gamestop would set up gaming stations to play local system link multi-player. After getting the game, we would stock up on snacks and drinks, go to someone's house, party up, and game the whole weekend, all day and all night. We would fit like 6 of us each with their own TV in a small room lol man, those were the best times

[@xyah4374]

your mom is cool lol

[@275Vet-RLTW]

Lol... We had. An epic raid team and a couple kids like you. It was an amazing release it was gamer life changing and imo we will never have another wotlk like release in any game its a bit sad but I'm glad you experienced it bro

[@juggernaught79]

I loved the server culture. After a while you and your guild developed a real reputation with people/other players. You got to know players in the opposite faction and it became real competition. You actually coordinated with 40 people to complete raids. You made real friends. I still talk to a couple people from then. Just crazy how it’s changed.

[@joelmcknight9995]

Yeah when I got back in wow retail a few years ago, and saw dungeon tinder had obsoleted groups I had mixed feelings. InstantQ for like any raid or dungeon is cool, but a lot of them have streamlined routes skipping tons of content, no quests to let you know why you’re there. And then the players are all cross realm youll likely not see again. So minmaxed and impersonal.

[@Arcexey]

@juggernaughty79 players today will never understand that about the game. That it used to be about the WORLD of warcraft. where you see the same people and build reputations, servers had reputations, you definitely knew who the pros and assholes were on the other faction. Like literally your reputation, not gearscore, got you into raids. I've played a little bit of dragonflight and nobody talks to each other EVER. just colors on a screen whizzing by.

[@C_Har]

I miss the server culture too. It meant something-

[@YohXoX]

I remember as a 15 year old writing CV for applying to midcore raiding guild(without any idea what a CV was). It was all about server rep and how easy was it to lose it, it was basically real life. I work in management for about 10 years now and WoW taught me more about management and recruitment than any professional courses I have had over the years lol.

[@jackorlove4055]

@Ahahaha I did the same thing. I was a 12 year old kid writing basically a CV to guilds on other servers. I eventually got accepted and transferred. Was able to get experience in Black Temple and Hyjal.

[@TheIndulgers]

I remember reading an article in 2003/2004 saying that everyone who is currently playing MMORPGs is all that will ever play MMOs. That the genre will never get anymore popular as the game are too niche and hardcore. The genre will never break into the mainstream. I ACTUALLY remember reading this, and was the general sentiment at the time.

[@e1ectricfee1]

WoW has been a the greatest game of my childhood. Release on my birthday in 2004! I was 11. I use to watch my older brother complete all the raids in vanilla. I use to cover for him during trash mobs while he took a nap. ( we are on the east coast and our guild was west coast) I would play halo 2 while he raided. I’ve never reached 60 or level cap myself. I just explored the game. I missed out on the classic server re-release because I battled alcoholism at the time, but now I’ve kicked my demons and been playing through classic and tbc. Cant wait to see y’all in Wrath!

[@CatherineInFlorida]

Congratulations on your journey to self improvement. That is a very difficult thing to achieve. Good job!

[@mihcim5323]

Stay strong brother and remember you can always get stronger from now on!

[@jayinc5387]

Great to hear you battled your demons Andrew 👊🏽

[@destroyerinazuma96]

Congratulations and good job.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

Congratulations and good job.

[@TallyHoBr0]

Who’s here in 2024 falling asleep to the chill voice?

[@tarikuchiha5363]

Ur falling asleep to asmongold yelling😭?

[@TallyHoBr0]

@@tarikuchiha5363 it’s like a dog snoring. It make no sense but you get used to the noise LMAO

[@Jerry-Jardorc69]

Bro wtf😂 I keep waking up middle of the night with these old videos playing

[@chriswatkin8379]

@@Jerry-Jardorc69hahaha so real it’s 4:30 am and I get wakes up to this man screaming about how bad wod is like he’s going though a episode of ptsd

[@Vagabond117x]

Me right now

[@ScoundrullonYouTube]

I love how many memories he has with his mom and dad, they seem like awesome parents that really loved him and supported him now look, he's on his way to being able to take care of them, how things come full circle

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

Asmongold is a fukn millionaire several times over. He took care of his mom till the end, his dad idk he's like a dear friend that swings by every once in a while.

[@bananasaur5209]

@randomvideoboy1 Hell? Why would you say that?

[@bananasaur5209]

@randomvideoboy1 ok, so what?

[@beeman4266]

@Keshuel So she was super based? Makes me like her even more.

[@RockThomasCinema]

3 and a half hours of reaction content LETS GO

[@pickledblowfish6178]

Well.. of Asmon watching a video. Edit: i resend my statement. This is good reaction. Better than most of his reactions.

[@USMC49er]

3 and half hours?! That's almost as long as Asmon's intro

[@n8doggy733]

all crappy WoW tho

[@Smaug1441]

I thought that was a joke when I read your comment. Then I checked the time stamp.

[@CatcherMorningstar]

youtube normies smh

[@jimjogger306]

The nostalgia at the beginning bought a tear to my eye, Just that log in with ironforge in the background, I know its a cliche thing to say but games will never be the same again!

[@justaguyinyoutube3237]

Its Amazing how the legacy and impact of WoW changed gaming and pop culture, it was a juggernaut. Very sad indeed how things went and are at the moment, i hope it gets better for the community with dragonflight and Classic WOTLK but the truth is it will never be as big as it was, no king rules forever.

[@honkbrother8000]

One can dream my friend. What did u main? I've been playing a goblin hunter ever since goblins came out.

[@daytonfunk5783]

@@honkbrother8000 I know you didn’t ask me. 😂 but. I use to main feral druid every since wrath. Quit half way into shadowlands simply because my computer is broken and I’m still in school and can’t afford a new one because that one was a hand me down lol

[@justaguyinyoutube3237]

@@honkbrother8000 my main were a dwarf paladin prot and a troll hunter BM and MM from 2004 till MoP :)

[@honkbrother8000]

@@justaguyinyoutube3237 nice uve been playing longer then me. I do love the MM specs.

[@honkbrother8000]

@@daytonfunk5783 nice man! We love us some druid bois.

[@piedriver9965]

The beginning of this helped me remember why I love WoW so much. The dark times have been dark, particularly with Blizzard and their issues, but the good times certainly were good. Vanilla through Cata may not be perfect games, but they’ll always be my favourite.

[@koenvanderrijt5244]

reaching level60, getting my epic mount, my first raid experience, seeing epics for first time, forty man nerdscreams. Some of those moments still give me the chills..

[@thejustinjustin1233]

This makes me miss so much of what gamers could expect. Big shows to hype the community, midnight launches, and a sense of community that wasn’t nearly as toxic as it is now.

[@Dustomatic]

I once got a phone call from my guild leader at 6am, then spent until 1am attempting to kill aaryonar in Temple of Veeshan. And if you think 19 hours trying to kill one boss is a long day… there were multiple other guilds hanging out behind us to kill Aaryonar if we gave up (server etiquette dictated a guild had as many attempts as they wanted until they conceded or killed a boss). Raiding in EQ was crazy.

[@brooksgunn5235]

And I thought doing Alaric's Sanctuary in Lost Ark in pubs for an hours the other day was crazy!

[@fort809]

@@gordonlove5121 D2 day 1 raids are no joke, I spent 14 hours in VoG before my team decided to call it quits after Gatekeeper

[@GeorgeMonet]

Lineage 2 was almost as bad. 6+ hours, hundreds of deaths per person (because the unavoidable AoEs were designed to one shot players). Never again.

[@SwitchTalkChannel]

Players say this about OSRS and RS3 today. They say, 'you don't want real classic/old RS back, because those days were hard, you had to really click things. You don't want that, bro'. Yes, yes I do. But, he's right: most players don't want it. But this is not good game design. You know what most players want? They want to push the game until it breaks and they quit. That's the genius of the 'average gamer'. It happened with WoW, it happened with Minecraft, it happened with RuneScape, it happened with Call of Duty. It has happened with most major games over the last 15 years.

[@epicseven3222]

I think this history of world of warcraft is why people cant just simply move on and are still playing the game until now. The impact it had on our lives and the memories that we always look back into whenever we log in is just irreplaceable. The game is pretty much shit now, but i still continue to play it exactly because of this. Its like how we can never forget our first love back in grade school, first time we had sex etc. All of it is just simply too difficult for us to walk away from and forget. Thats why no matter how bad the state of the game is at now, we still play it

[@s1xto]

Pretty much it's the same for me...playing since 2009 with Wotlk days being the most beautiful for me...offered everything i could wish for. Enjoyed MoP and Legion as well, but BFA burned me out so much that i needed to drop the game for a bit and i only returned recently after 1 year hiatus...can't say it's very exciting, but i farm mounts,tmogs, achiievements etc. so it's enjoyable to some extent, but can never drop it permanently...it's like a curse which never ends D: i still hope that MS can do something for WoW...everything could be better than Activison's policy with money-making with Bobby at the helm (i hate that guys so-so much).

[@arthas5270]

Word

[@FUnazis]

It's not the same for everyone, I'd say. I began playing in late BC and kept playing the game (with several breaks in-between) until the end of Legion. Then I stopped for good, and never came back. The greatest time playing it had been in Wrath for me; since then I was max lvl for the first time (Wrath had come up before I could reach lvl 70), and I absolutely loved it. Since then, I had very often longed to get that same experience out of a game again, but never got it, not from the newer expansions of WoW, neither from other MMOs, though I tried sum. In the end, I did move on. Nowadays, while I play much less video games than I used to back then, I still play my games, but I am most likely done with MMOs forever. It was a great time, especially with when WoW was still good, without a doubt the best time I've had playing any game, if the sheer length of how long I played it is also taken into consideration, so I don't regret playing it one bit. That's also why I still keep up with new info every now and then. I should say also though, that I also just really love Asmon and his videos, also on other topics.

[@etherealpenguin8683]

Part of life is coming to terms with the fact that nothing lasts forever and sometimes it's better to leave something with fond memories instead of sticking around because of bitter sweet memories, I stopped playing after Wrath and it was hard, all my friends were still playing, then you have the sunken cost fallacy, I'd spent a lot of time on my character, a lot of adventures and memories but I saw the game becoming something I didn't want to be a part of and I saw how deeply addicted some of my friends had become over the course of Wrath, skipping real life interactions, avoiding their girlfriend to raid, they've all grown to regret it and most if not all don't play anymore, you have the power to quit too but you have to want to deep down and it doesn't sound like you're ready to let it go.

[@Owen741.]

New wow in ue5?

[@nightmarecrazy23]

I myself feel blessed and cursed that I got to experience WoW for a short period during my teenage years, yet did not get absorbed into it because I knew it would consume me, and I am the kind of person that likes to try a new game every now and then.

[@spongiplays]

"How do you not get T1 if you play 16 hours a day?" Take it from someone with severe insomnia; lack of sleep destroys most of the progress you do in video games. Constant bad sleep equals to being as aware as an intoxicated person. I used to rank top 5 globally in unofficial (Splatter Ladder) ranking in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory when I was 16. Nowadays playing FPS games is nigh impossible to me, due to my brain decaying at an increased rate over the years; I do not have the reflexes, the awareness and so on of people my age. Just like going to the gym, when you want to build mass, you need to also give your brain a rest to process the things you learn. Playing 16 hours a day will not make you better than playing 4-6 hours a day, because this leaves only 8 hours for eating, sleeping and time off from your PC. You will notice increased stress levels and even physical symptoms like headaches, nausea, dizziness and even hallucinations if it gets really bad with some people. If you want to git gud, remember that resting is just as important as practicing and you should try to balance the stuff you do around your sleep, not the other way around.

[@jacquesdube6294]

The most impressive thing about Asmongold reactions is how often it happens that he pause the video to explain how he commented on the subject before, only to resume the video which immediately include a snippet of the video of him explaining exactly what he was just talking about before resuming the video. If it is not planned, then that is priceless.

[@MrDevelopTV]

i hit level 58 the day that TBC came out. you were allowed thru the portal at 58. going thru the portal was probably the coolest moment in my entire history of gaming. being able to fly in wow was like getting your drivers license.

[@LionUnchained]

Something I don't think anyone really understands about game development is that the problems that you encounter under heavy server loads/stress is something you cannot simply develop in context of, and that those issues are only present when under that load. It's so much more complex than anyone gives it credit for. Until you actually develop a game and then release it, the pure gravity of how much work it is to and how abstract of a concept it is to think about game mechanics/services under load is just not something that is tangible. It's like expecting to know how to launch a rocket because you'd watched rockets launched on the discovery channel. Clearly you press the button and the rocket goes into space, right? All of the normal game development must be done, and then how you scale these functions to operate online under load must be accounted for, planned and programmed, and tested... It's insane any of this even works at all to be honest XD

[@ill_will757]

watching this at the end of 2022 and MAN do i miss MadSeason....

[@piedriver9965]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@atanasdimitrov6469]

He has a new video, by the way.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

The old content creators were the best.

[@marschel6271]

The amount of effort MadSeason puts into his Videos is so insane. I love this dude

[@climbingcaverns4479]

And now someone who reacted for 3 hours will indirectly steal viewers and the watch time from the documentary unfortunately.

[@aphonos4600]

​@@climbingcaverns4479 yet here you are.

[@chad5577]

@@climbingcaverns4479 he’s actually giving him more buzz hence more subs - let that soak into your peanut brain

[@digisample]

@@climbingcaverns4479 and yet the original Madseason video has over DOUBLE the views that this react video has. Yep, definitely stealing views... Clown.

[@climbingcaverns4479]

@@chad5577 1. There's a reason why movie advertisements and trailers don't show the entire movie. It defeats the purpose of watching the movie and spending money which benefits the original creators. That is the problem with react content, it is essentially streaming an entire movie and rationalizing it as an advertisement. 2. Even assuming you get a lot of likes and subscriptions from react content (which is almost nonexistent compared to what reactor's benefit from) Subscribers don't matter like they used to, watch time and interactivity is the most important for both revenue and the algorithm.

[@sickowhale6861]

I remember first time trying WoW when WoD came out. I had been fantasized about it all my life by my brother, like how you have to literally walk for hours to get to another city, sending your pet in the dungeon first to tank and picking enemies out and etc, WoW had been THAT game in my head all my life. At my mid twenty, sitting alone in an internet cafe, my friends are too busy looking for jobs, my heart was POUNDING. When I first logged into the game, I felt like I was finally opening the Pandora's box that I had been wondering about all my life. It was a great experience. I wish I knew more about the game more professionally and achieved everthing, but it was good enough. My brother time to time says he wants to be an owner of a building and play WoW 24/7 until the day he dies. I know what he means. lol

[@erindreams1790]

This is probably my favorite Asmongold video. Also so spot on. Madseason is amazing and has some serious talent for making documentaries. Loved seeing Asmon's take. Kudos, y'all. Both of you.

[@fl3045]

LFD and LFR aren't the worst parts of wow. They were the best for me. The dailies killed wow for me. Gotta log in, do the same thing I did yesterday, hope I progress, and then get ready to do it tomorrow. Dailies made the game a job.

[@MagpieMcGraw]

Yup. It feels like you're just going through the motions. You know exactly how the next 15 minutes of gameplay will go. At that point, what's the point of actually playing? The bounties in D3 feel like that as well.

[@kanosig]

Dear God YT, please stop auto-playing this video

[@Habbs3000]

Amen

[@DamoDavis]

Literally auto played for me too lmao

[@itsGuy]

Lmfao this is my 20th time watching it

[@hotsoup1001]

Why is it so hard for KZbin to not auto play crap I've already watched and liked/disliked. Am I the only person on KZbin who doesn't want to continuously rewatch the same videos? 😢

[@slug9181]

i remember when WoW came out... and we'd been playing on a private unofficial server . it just blew my mind that it was a TPS-RPG and whole map was connected. there were no loading screens. you could run 10min in one direction and have no loading screen. absolutely insane. Unimaginable that it didnt lag.

[@HeyImBoschea]

you must be misremembering the lag lmao. most people had dinosaur pc's and this game ran at 15-20 frames, at good times

[@littlegirlshowSynch]

@@HeyImBoschea idk about when it first came out, but in WoTLK and Cata I remember it being one of the most well optimized games I've ever seen lol

[@IImforeign]

I can almost physically hold the memories i have from playing WoW, just innocent wonderful times

[@Dmhlcmb]

I remember talking about WoW everyday with a couple coworkers from a job I was working in 2008. WoW was hyped bigger than any blockbuster movie, Apple product or Black Friday deal in history. WoW was superhype.

[@MrZodiacsaint]

When I was a kid I remember my older friends rented out a trailer in a trailer park and turn the entire thing into a gaming trailer.. So many computers so many people so many good times.. Man the good old days

[@southpark1you0]

Occasionally I will buy some mountain dew, doritos, hot pockets, pizza rolls, order pizza, that sort of thing, as i spend a weekend binging games like the good old days. it feels like we experienced such a significant, impact full and joyous time that has changed the world in ways so intricate, we could never fully understand. how many people lost their jobs? got dumped? met someone significant, or became best friends over this game? it changed so many lives. it's like nothing in my life's future can ever beat my 20s. epic.

[@Mischievous_Moth]

I love listening to you telling nostalgic tales of your childhood, your mom sounds like an awesome person. My mom and I used to play the original Guild Wars together so I got a little teary eyed listening to you tell the story about TBC release.

[@ComeOnBunny]

Oh man the OG Guild Wars was amazing!

[@FrankValchiria]

man i plaid on a laptop without dedicated gpu and got addicted lol i worked my way up to lev 60 like a mf/ my shaman taurus :)

[@adeptavatar9394]

I played Ultima Online and Everquest, and then WoW. And WoW just blew the others away when it came to ease of access for the masses. Plus it was more casual friendly, with keeping your gear on death and no experience loss. It's like Blizzard had played EQ and just did it one better, improved the 2 or 3 annoying things and there you go. Plus the aesthetics and music of WoW, so welcoming.

[@ap-oe1tf]

Alot of the developers of WoW played EQ especially Jeff Kaplan who was super hardcore into it.

[@southpark1you0]

I remember being introduced to glitches, like getting under stormwind. After learning one, I would find people to show it to. Sometimes I'd come across someone who would show me something else, like the smiley under Kara. Most of these became obsolete at the release of cata. The fun I had in the middle of nowhere with some random person. I was always logged on, always found something to do Even if I was bored, I'd just go do things for others, like farm something or help them quest, or just chill in 2. Because of these glitches, I began really watching youtube. Id watch all those videos. like the ones that told you that the tents in westfall were made of human skin, and you could see faces. these are the days i like to think about when im down and cant sleep.

[@everythingpony]

And you got banned?

[@southpark1you0]

@@everythingpony no?

[@Crosswalker.]

I remember telling all my gamer colleagues at work about WoW and infecting them with the virus 😅 several of them started playing and they constantly asked me questions about the game and they quickly get better and we talked about dungeons and raids and bosses and weapons and about much more... Even work was fun at that time because of WoW 😅 such a great time!

[@torxx12]

I remember playing for 19hrs straight one day, back when i had no responsibilities(the good ol days). It wasnt the game that was addicting, its only cause i was playing with friends that made it so fun.

[@Jekiterio]

the game was tiled around teamwork and exploration, so playing this game with friends was ten times more rewarding.

[@bobdole4093]

Only 19 hours?

[@cricket5692]

Time to get C O Z Y boys! Let's watch some bedtime stories with Papa Asmongold.

[@FlameMage2]

Relax as MadSeason mumbles you to sleep so as to not wake his parents as he does his voice over. Being easily audible and understandable is overrated anyway.

[@kojirosasaki8129]

9:55 just Asians and White men. The back bone of great video games.

[@bradley163]

One of my favorite midnight launches was the one for Burning Crusade. More than Halo 2, Halo 3, The Dark Knight, and any other midnight events I've taken part in. The community was what made it so good.

[@ChillSwitch-14]

Yes! The Lich king was great too. There was about 500 kids at the GameStop midnight release where I grew up. Great times! I agree the Halo ones were good but not like those.

[@DamnSoSlow]

Whats crazy to me is that I didn't raid until LFR, I had been playing single player wow essentially until 4.3. I ran a few dungeons here and there but mainly was solo. after getting introduced to raiding through LFR I actually went hardcord in MoP and did heroic, and mythic raiding. Ironically MoP was some of the best times I had in WoW.

[@jluchette]

In hindsight, in spite of the hate at the time, MoP was amazing. By far the most visually stunning WoW’s ever been, some of the best raiding ever with ToT being a top all-time tier. The wold bosses, the island patcheS introduced content that was like a mini-game itself, pet battles and collecting took off, farming old content for gold hadn’t been nerfed… it was a great expansion.

[@Nimona-FTW]

I remember pitching MMOs to publishers before WoW came out. They didn't take MMO seriously. Even Lineage II that had 2 millions subscriber, wasn't taken seriously in the west. Then WoW came out and the got interested. When Free2Play came out the industry didn't take this seriously either at the beginning. Same thing with Facebook games, etc. etc. :) Working in this industry is painful, it is so conservative. I think World of Tanks got rejected by every publishers out there, until they said fuck it, we will do it in our own and got massively successful.

[@J_TheUncynical]

One of the greatest videos ever, it shows how blizzard once was one of the most respected gaming companies ever to now becoming arguably the most atrocious company out there

[@Melon-Lord]

1 hour in and I have chills man, I miss when wow was this good. So glad I lived through this.

[@Woadie757]

I never got to experience it, but watching all of these old wow clips and people reminiscing over them makes me wish I was born earlier to experience what seemed like such a great and nostalgic time.

[@Viroh]

Touch grass

[@chuckbass7276]

Wow is just as good. There's just more options nowadays.

[@Melon-Lord]

@@chuckbass7276 Nah, most of the social aspect and what drives friendship building and people logging on just to see the people they know is gone. It died with dungeon finder.

[@arthas236]

@@Woadie757 same

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

Please remember, (55 here) Most normal families did not have computer, much less internet access. only 7% of those few had Broadband in 2001, which means the other 97% were still on dialup.) Then you needed to pay for dialup provider another 40 bucks a month plus telephone costs... Bruh sounds brutal now but LOL we did it tho! My first ever "Game" other than board games was Dungeons & Dragons quest books, where you read, make choices and flip thru the book depending on your choice.. i was hooked on those. This is back in the days of Jughead, Archie and Charley brown... Damn i'm old LOL

[@iamthebossmanify]

I joined in MoP as a hardcore raider and man was it fun. especially SoO. I didn't even know I'd joined a dying game, we stayed a guild focused on PvP and raiding till BFA, BFA killed my guild's morale almost none of us play WoW anymore.

[@bhec7715]

It was still fun, but yeah, definitely not as fun as it had been. You still had fun pvp. You still had classes that still had differentiation.

[@wickian9571]

Does anyone else remember when the need/greed rolls in dungeons were first introduced? It was mind blowing.

[@KolyaUrtz]

When was that?

[@wickian9571]

@@KolyaUrtz One of the earlier patches in Vanilla. It used to be that every single item, depending on loot settings, just brought a yes/no roll popup for everyone. I remember running that instance in Westfall right afterwards and was amazed at how much cleaner distributing loot was when everyone didn't roll on ever single piece to sell/disenchant. You could greed everything, and only need what you would actually use. Imagine BoP's being rolled on constantly by classes that couldn't even equip the items. It was really frustrating.

[@KolyaUrtz]

@@wickian9571 damn, didn't know that. I thought it was like that from beginning. Glad they added it

[@hjallebyss2603]

2004 - best year of gaming! Wow released, Halo 2 released, Battle of Middel-earth released, half-life 2 released, GTA San Andreas, Paper Mario, KOTOR!! The list is insane!

[@ShadySKWASHA]

Wow finally someone else says it, my friend and i went back and looked and established the same, some many bangers. Pre patches to fix broken overpriced dishonest bs. The feeling of being at the video game isle with money reading the back of boxes... Oh well things change, life goes on...

[@johnnybhd1094]

Fable, Far cry, and Ninja Gaiden also. What a fuckin year man

[@Acewingman11]

When the dungeon finder was released it was weird when a player didn't greet the other players in the group. By the end of Cataclysm you wouldn't see that. Literally in 1 expansion you killed the community aspect of World of Warcraft with 1 system forever.

[@bbhawks9060]

Yes, unfortunately without dungeon finder now it is just spam with ressing the items everyone is there for. Maybe with time people can revert back to not being bastards but it seems efficiency and selfishness is priority and may never revert back.

[@アイギス-e4s]

The entire dungeon finder fiasco is a complete anomaly to me, RDF didn't kill anything, TBC dungeon design did. It went from the sprawling dungeons of Vanilla that could take hours to beat to the arcadey design philosophy we see today where you could spam like 8 of them in a single day. Spamming in trade chat for people to join you, flying to the dungeon and clearing it in 30 minutes to an hour with barely any chat interaction was common as hell, when you made a party in Vanilla you were going to be stuck with 4 assholes for most of your day. I don't personally prefer the Vanilla system but people use RDF as a complete scapegoat If anything it added an incentive to actually complete the dungeon, thereby raising patience with mistakes or wipes, before it why would people spend hours storming a dungeon where most bosses didn't drop things they wanted.

[@qunt100]

@@アイギス-e4s I honestly see it as the community changing to. I mean, even without all the classic hype, most of my groups on average disbanded because the dungeons took to long. I swear it was always something. In the digital age we live in, people just want shit ASAP. Leveling up is legit so frustrating to the average wow player, which is why the paid level boost even works in the first place. Blizzard would not do it, if it did not make money. And, even without the paid level boost or any of that shit in classic wow, there were so many different ways to make the leveling faster. Just insane. Like do people really hate leveling that much. Like i would never pay folks to boost my character or blizzard either to boost my toons. At the same time, it is important to count the players who don't have short attention spans and all that, as well as trying to be objective to both parties. Alot of people who boosted stayed for the long haul. But alot of folks dropped within a few months after boosting. I remember bc classic not lasting long at all. As much as people hated jay allen brack, i do agree to an extent with his comment. I think we wanted classic wow, but alot of folks wanted that original experience back. And you never can get the original experience back. At the same time, how long were we going to be able to be invested before we got bored of it. From what i remember of classic wow, man did it seem to drop pretty quickly. It did seem like it did not last as long as it should have been intended to last for. It lasted longer than bc classic did. But wrath will have the same effect. People just get bored so quick these days, especially with old experiences, and even new ones to. I am hoping blizzard adds some changes to wrath to make it last longer, because it will be over pretty quick for the average player. The content is not new, and even if it was, we would already know everything about it already. Like with breath of the wild. I knew everything before it even launched. I knew that the korok seeds existed. That they were worthless. I did not uncover alot of the info the first time by playing the game. Wow has the same problem, but it is community based. And i think people just need to learn how to not be bored so quick, because i think that is part of it also. At any rate, i am hoping for the best for classic wrath, and dragonflight. It will be fun.

[@davidepannone6021]

@@qunt100 The vast majority that wanted classic were just living off a nostalgia act. Classic died in 6 months.

[@GeorgeMonet]

What weird server group were you on that people didn't talk to each other in dungeon finder? Maybe my server group was the weird one but I cannot remember a dungeon group where people didn't talk. ALthough I could totally understand not bothering to even speak in the later instances because you knew the dungeon was a waste of your time and just wanted to get it done as fast as possible. Much like the early WoW dungeons that were far too large and far too poorly designed with no clear path. So they were just shit. I hate the early wow dungeons.

[@mikes.6251]

the editing is absolutely got tier. huge shouts to madseason and the help.

[@OkSureGuy]

Every time I let a video end it starts playing this video. I have watched it so many times.

[@OkSureGuy]

Oh hey I’m back again

[@OkSureGuy]

Oh looking here

[@TsarNick1995]

Same lmao.

[@vhalesfloof2175]

Only two things I'd have added, the Scourge event before Wrath. And swapping to "Triage" for Cata dungeons. Healers went from God mod to have to let 1 person die and got so abused they'd leave a group crying. Lots of them quit start of Cata.

[@GeorgeMonet]

THe change to healing was a massive leap BACKWARDS. Healers LOVED being able to constantly heal and keep people alive. MOST healers did not want to have manage their mp. They wanted TO HEAL. You know, do the job they joined to do. Having to sit there with your thumb up your ass because you will run out of mana otherwise isn't fun. THe DPS never had to stop DPSing, the tank never had to stop tanking, but the healer had to stop healing. Cataclysm was just a huge step backwards in every system. They tried catering to the elitists who were butthurt that normal people were enjoying WotLK for being easier and the Cata sub loss showed that most people are not sweaty elitists. And those lost subs never really came back. Blizzard lost trust by chasing the wrong player type and trust is a hard thing to earn and even harder to regain once lost.

[@BerserkingGator]

Killing a boss in Vanilla for the first time with 39 other people was such a fun experience. Nothing like 38 dudes and 2 girls (with no mics) autistic screeching when rag went down for the first time.

[@ivannakic9922]

community

[@chumdejam7984]

What is vanilla? Serious question idk so :)

[@mrwashywashy7188]

While "The Sword of a thousand truths" itself isnt in the game, you can get the item they used for the model the Slayer of the Lifeless has the quote "Foretold by Salzman" it drops in naxx

[@edog551]

Even that music brings me back. Such simple things as wandering out of town and seeing some raptors a few levels ahead of me and wondering if I can take them on was a blast. Going into wailing caverns and knowing you're about to embark on a long journey and not knowing what was ahead.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

If they had the character cloning capability for Classic to the Burning Crusade back in the days of Vanilla, I would have never left the retail game. How do you think those of us who had done a brutal nine month grind for rank 14 way back in Vanilla felt when they made our hard work all for nothing with that first expansion? It showed just how little they cared about the time and dedication we put into their game. I’d only ever come back to retail if Blizzard figured out a way to resurrect the state of my account the day before the Burning Crusade was released and copied that onto a classic server for me to continue where I left off. I was still very content playing the Vanilla game back then and was nothing but pissed off about the expac.

[@JimC607]

I never have and probably never will play WoW but I'm still gonna watch this whole video.

[@mekkiepoo]

Cata: "12 million people love our game... LET'S CHANGE EVERYTHING!" Crap, everyone is quitting.. what should we do? Have an epic chromie raid turn back time and fix it? Nah, nah.. let's spit on the players even more with Pandas.

[@MR_N0VA]

I was never in the WOW hype age and don't really like MMO's bus something about the huge nostalgia wave you see him going through is so fun to watch

[@bhec7715]

A friend of mine insisted he would never play. He came by just to say hi and I sat there talking to him for an hour while my screen sat there on the character creation screen. He had too much of an ego to tell me, but he went and bought that game as soon as he left my house.

[@PasserMontanus]

It's just a damn well made documentary.

[@Muck006]

Before WoW I played Everquest ... and I remember still having completely non-magical boots at level 52 ... and it didnt matter, because SKILL was more important than GEAR. Breaking into the Plane of Fear took an effort ... but once you had managed to do it ... it wasnt over, because you had to clear the entire zone before the end boss was accessible without getting assistance from roaming mobs. Obviously the graphics werent as good as WoW, but I did love my crowd controlling enchanter class, something that WoW didnt have. In WoW Vanilla I played a druid ... healing specced ... but I still made the effort to get tanking gear and due to the "Armor bonus" for bears I could tank sufficiently well on raids ... while being healing specced. MAKING AN EFFORT MATTERED ... and GETTING PERSONAL PLAYING SKILL MATTERED. Leveling as a bear while having eaten some Dragonbreath Chili was fun too, because it added quite a lot of damage (~20K damage over the 10 minutes duration at around level 54 was one count I made) ... but then they NERFED THE BEAR.

[@GeorgeMonet]

I'd rather have the power of the character be more important than skill or gear. If anything MY skill shouldn't matter, only the skill of the character whose role I am playing should matter because that character should be able to have skills I do not. The whole point of taking on a role is being able to do things that you yourself could not do.

[@calebwithak]

I think Ever Quest 2 was better as a game than WoW. The issue was that they both launched around the same time and Blizzard as a studio had a greater following, plus gimmicks like the Leroy video put WoW into the pop culture lexicon, and they finally the atmosphere of community along side the monthly fee restricted people’s desire to try other mmos.

[@leonharte9677]

The vanilla WoW days are some of my favorite gaming memories of all time. It was unlike any experience I've had in videogames at its time.

[@UnblockedOne2]

Same. Then, TBS and WOTLK. Lots of just playing the game and exploring. Gradually, just became a game of chores.

[@bhec7715]

Yeah it was fun. I remember raiding crossroads and my clan lectured me like I was evil. It was an RP server, lol.

[@UnblockedOne2]

@@bhec7715 I know. I was on Horde & used to hate the Alliance. Those times are over. Nobody even cares anymore. Once they started intermingling the factions like with Shattrath City it began ruining the game.

[@Forsakenguard]

I have a good friend that was in the "Serenity Now" guild that attacked the in game memorial service. I know this because he's only mentioned it about a thousand times. Seriously any time someone starts to reminisce about old times gaming he goes in with that. We (his friends) really don't get why he's so invested in sharing that crap.

[@skeliskull]

I mean that tracks with the guild. They really wanted the attention

[@slykeren8371]

One of the best gaming moments of all time

[@timothyblazer1749]

He's so invested likely because it gave his life meaning.

[@anduin1]

It was a shining moment in their wretched lives

[@Jade_Raven]

God I miss turning into a ghoul on death. That was my favorite thing in the game like ever. Obviously it was broken as fuck, specifically the way it worked in arena like Asmon was talking about, but the idea itself was just plain fun. "Brezzing" people into ghouls was neat too, it's nice to have the actual utility of a brez on retail ofc, but it's not nearly as cool and thematic

[@joshholmes1372]

Not only that, but death and decay had a mini terrify effect on it. So you could drop it on yourself and other melee's would just run around in fear half the time.

[@gianlucag100g]

Tokyo ghoul xdxdxd

[@TheWolfram23]

Your comments on WotLK and Cata are spot on for me. I was a launch until late WotLK player and a forever in a small guild type so I focused on PVP for a long time and also PuGs for Raids. PuGs only started to be viable in BC with Karazhan and one main of mine was a warrior tank, so, I had the full PuG experience. I agree in terms of WotLK made PuGing easier but I found the quality of players dropped a lot, like people who had no business being there with greens - same with the heroic dungeons vs in vanilla needed to farm status and get keyed. Also the way Cata blew up my virtual home of 6 years, it was a good time to split and move on in life.

[@wilazn]

How did I not see this video till now. And how did I actually sit thru all of it.

[@llwonder]

Nothing will give the same feelings of playing WoW for the first time. Wow was so iconic and well done. It was so revolutionary to play it as a kid. Now I’m playing ESO but I’m not trying to recapture my nostalgia. Times have changed and I’ve accepted it. ESO has been a lot of fun and gives me some old school WoW vibes by making the world the main attraction of the game, rather than some instances dungeon or raid

[@ZoDSeRSyLVaN]

Every good adventure story needs a villain to present a purpose for the adventure. Blizzard did an outstanding job at destroying the villain in every single expansion and now, the story is entirely out of villains that have a good background. Shadowland was their monster reborn card but they screw it up and we must say good luck to Blizzard to find another villain with a good background build-up. They are going to need more than 2 expansions to build up a villain as great as Arthas Menthil which means boring content is incoming.

[@flyinghead1147]

I love that in Wacraft III there was only Horde (Orc) or Alliance (Human). There wasn't any alliance of races or heroes. When Silvermoon was attacked there wasn't a group of heroes or other races to help out. Thats reality.

[@ZoDSeRSyLVaN]

@@flyinghead1147 Sorry dude but that is not reality, hope you pay more attention to see how Blizzard absolutely destroys the masterpiece foundation that was built in Warcraft III. Below is why: In Warcraft III, blood elf was on Alliance demonstrated by Kael (blood elf) campaign and they got mistreated by humans specifically which led to Kael betraying Alliance joins Naga and Illidan in outland. The Silvermoon attack was during this period when blood elves were no longer within Alliance and had not yet joined Horde. The part blood elf joins Horde is written in wow where they said Kael once again betrayed his only ally left and blood elf could no longer stand his failure. There was a lot of REAL TWIST in Warcraft III whereas what we got now is a "did not serve" Sylvanas and no ball Anduin.

[@flyinghead1147]

@@ZoDSeRSyLVaN Silvermoon attack happened when they were still with Alliance and they weren't called Blood Elfs still but High Elfs. Keal was still having blue eye's at the moment of the attack. Blood Elf campaign was years after the defeat of Silvermoon city. By reality I meant that was should it be but it is not. Blizzard killed it off.

[@amo5743]

@@ZoDSeRSyLVaN they never actually betrayed the humans, they just accepted aid from the naga and got imprisoned for it, then the naga helped them escape. also they were not really "allied". 90% of the high elves had just been killed so they were seeking refuge. and also the blood elves joined the horde because the forsaken aided the blood elves in ridding the rest of the scourge from quel'thalas after vanilla.. and not to mention the former ranger general of silvermoon herself is the leader of the forsaken so they've got an established relationship there already

[@shadeymcbones6707]

I remember not really minding the lfg system in Wotlk since random heroic dungeons actually used to be a bit difficult and comunnicating with your group increased your rate of succes. And well, you were going to have to spend atleast a solid 30 minutes with them. I skipped cataclysm but i remember subbing back into the game during MoP and sharing the sentiment in terms of the raid finder. I remember actually having to pay attention and communicate raid mechanics for siege of orgrimmar LFR's before moving on to a higher difficulty. But then when i came back at the end of WoD, doing raidfinder raids kinda just felt like heroic dungeons (which were also piss easy at that point) so it basically felt like playing the game with a bunch of npc's

[@justjoe9070]

This Madseason video is absolutely great. And your commentary on it really adds to it. Awesome. Thanks.

[@griffinsharp3699]

here we go boys, 3.5 hours

[@theduke1149]

Worth

[@David.Dailey]

FALSE - Asherons Call was the first seamless world with no load screens and skill based characters by Turbine/Microsoft Studio

[@wulf_za]

Regarding Blizzard,...The phrase: "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." has never rung more true.

[@jamestomlin5525]

They were pretty much always Ike that it's come to light, they just kept it underwraps better

[@TheKouvari]

I am 43 years old and still playing classic sometimes...!!But remembering the good old days tiil Cataclysm makes me wanna cry!!

[@tbcgbvcb]

47:15 That's some proper childhood experience man. Thanks for memories

[@vasilis1380]

I went from D1 to Warcraft 2 to D2 to StarCraft to WoWcraft and man I really miss those days… feels like I came to this earth realm just to experience these magical games 😂

[@Colaschnittchen]

Cataclysm was a nightmare for healer. Classes got their identity stripped from them and healing the first raids was a nightmare. Casting took forever and the healing was so low. If you had teammates, that failed mechanics, healing them was extremly difficult and frustrating

[@MK3504]

Good point played wow from vanilla to cata. I missed put of WoD because of how off putting cataclysm was especially to the skill tree. They simplified it to a high degree.

[@etownsend9116]

Yeah especially on priest.

[@Colaschnittchen]

@@etownsend9116 i played paladin and it was so bad, it made me quit healing all together

[@etownsend9116]

@@Colaschnittchen yeah i switched to mage. It was tough.

[@raymondbernhardt7617]

They should make Mythic 0, the new heroics. Mythic Plus and Mythic Raids should not allow add-ons.

[@ZxDaddyTwizz]

Started playing wow back when I was like 11 or so just before burning crusade released. Played for years with my best friend and made so many great memories . Unfortunately he passed away suddenly from a seizure In his sleep and after that it just wasn't the same, I did play again a few times and did get back Into it. But it wasn't the same as before with my best friend. I still think about wow all the time and reminisce on those times.

[@oliverlettera642]

DAOC was my first experience before WoW, it was insane and had the best PVP / RVR Systems ever. None of any MMO had this same feeling again. Good old times.. Greetz to Stonehenge / DE / Midgard.

[@josephbingham4131]

Remember the 'Naz'gul' guild? Or 'Topi?' Or 'Bonerdancer?'

[@kelog5446]

I was on Kiljaden, that place was a mad house. I remember wanting to go through the story, so I quested mop, whenever we got to shared zones. Most of the ppl in the area were about the same level as me maybe 2 or 3 levels lower. It wasn't like.,..WoTLK where players w a max level main was 2 min away. I assume these players were baddies who couldn't land a dungeon group throwing themselves at a Blood DK over and over until I just gave up and went back to org, before their max lvl friends got home from work.

[@atraxian5881]

"these people believed that vanilla wow would kill retail wow" If that is the case, then it means that retail wow in their eyes was so garbage that it wouldn't survive the competition from 10(at the time) years old game.

[@zangbangtv2889]

It always makes me sad when i see those video's... because i know i will never have that feeling and moments... and friendship i used to have back then. Nostalgia is huge right now in me :D

[@potenzaintertradeco.ltd.6970]

My italian friend used to be the top player in leaderboard at the italian server. But he died few years ago by suicide, he drive trucks for job but when he sit on pc he is the best, always have always will. Rip

[@dervel123]

A true cultural phenomenon...

[@saltiney8578]

As someone who a lot of my teenage years were spent playing this wonderful game, damn this video hits hard especially the end...no king rules forever.

[@NewbNinjas]

I left cata for that exact reason, they severed the barrens. Game over.

[@shahaf1312]

I can honestly appreciate the fact that the monthly fee hasn't changed in almost 20 years, although the value of this same amount has dropped drastically.

[@MrSaphen]

The value of the product has changed accordingly :D

[@Gelly311]

Don't need to change the monthly fee when you have Activision coming up with ways to squeeze even more money out of consumers with micro-transactions that would make mobile game developers blush.

[@rickroll9705]

The value of the monthly fee increased in almost all countries aside US because dollar.

[@4liv3]

This video is some of the most dystopian, depression-inducing stuff I've ever watched on KZbin. A true fall from glory.

[@michaelkennielsen1422]

Meh its got a lot of overstatements in it because Madseason is angry with wow. I'm not saying i dont get his anger, but a good deal of this video is unwarranted.

[@kingdavey90]

@@michaelkennielsen1422 Perfectly warranted & true.

[@michaelkennielsen1422]

@@kingdavey90 I mean its really not though. But there is no point in arguing with people who are set in stone

[@kingdavey90]

@@michaelkennielsen1422 ditto.

[@michaelkennielsen1422]

@@kingdavey90 as opposed to you i brought up actual arguments. So no mate, that dont hold up :)