Asmongold Reacts to "The Tragic Tale of WingsOfRedemption" | by SunnyV2

[@Nate77HK]

Kyle had a big heart to go so hard for Wings, but I've made the mistake of trying to tackle self-improvement at a sprint instead of treating it like a marathon, and the problem is that it hurts too bad. I see why Wings couldn't stick it out in that situation, but he also didn't treat the friends who had good intentions respectfully even when things didn't work out. To anyone out there aiming to improve, take it a step at a time. Whether its weight loss, quitting addiction, or even working on procrastination. You aren't going wake up one day and be thin, or be without cravings, or have stellar work ethic. It's not a battle that can be fought in a week or a month and then put behind you. Day by day, it may seem like nothing changes, but when the years go by, you'll look back and realize you aren't the same. Hopefully you'll be in a better place.

[@trevorroland450]

TLDR: slow and steady wins the race.

[@rayquaza1245]

The point of a "boot camp" isn't to continue doing that forever, it's just preparation. Marines don't go through boot camp because they'll be going through those struggles daily, they do it so the struggles they eventually face will be tame in comparison and easier to handle

[@Nate77HK]

@@rayquaza1245 They also go through boot camp to learn enduring habits and skills that are necessary for them to maintain for the rest of their career, but I see what you're saying. The beginning is the hardest part even if you aren't intentionally frontloading the challenge, but I think especially where it concerns weight loss a lot of people go back to old lifestyle choices after their diet/workout phase and that defeats the point of the 'boot camp.' Also, a lot of people don't make it all the way through boot camp, so that approach might not be the best choice for everyone.

[@jackj4631]

Wise words. Thanks for making me feel a little better :)

[@Grayewick]

the problem is that things take time, if not years even for most people, to be good, but things getting messed up only needs a second for anyone.

[@Gakusangi]

Someone once asked Bruce Lee if he could beat Mohamad Ali. He said, "no". He basically told them that Mohamad was way too big and had way too much reach and he couldn't have beaten him in a match. Bruce Lee wasn't a blowhard, he was realistic. He understood limitations and size advantages. He also understood philosophy and the need to remove pointless tradition from conventional martial arts in order to optimize them. His efforts may have influenced what eventually became mixed martial arts, which is a HUGE competitive sport today. Bruce Lee is a legend, but he was also mortal and he understood and respected that.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

He still would have kicked Chuck Norris' ass.

[@Sylentmana]

He probably also understood that if you talk shit then can’t back it up it will destroy your career.

[@Gakusangi]

@@Sylentmana His career was already almost destroyed from a pretty severe back injury, which is what led to some of his addictions as he was seeking pain relief.

[@BygoneT]

Do you have a source on that?

[@Sylentmana]

@@BygoneT the source is that he died which proves that he was indeed mortal.

[@SamoIsKing]

"No matter how bad you've got it, someone out there had it worse and they're where they want to be." Damn. Thats the kind of perspective I need to get some motivation.

[@maeson676]

Motivation means nothing, discipline means everything.

[@Grayewick]

good for them

[@Grayewick]

@@maeson676 discipline fucked me up and was the prime reason why I've been stuck in the shit hole where my own blood left me.

[@SSNebula]

@@Grayewick sounds more like you've experienced cruelty. Not discipline.

[@Grayewick]

@@SSNebula oh it was discipline, alright. Too much discipline.

[@MrMoles01]

The baseball bat head injury as kid is interesting. Traumatic brain injurys are known to cause all kinds of impulsive behaviour which honestly describes wings to a T. He doesn't think before he says dumb shit, he can't resist urges like raging or not feeding the trolls, he can't even resist eating excessively even with half his stomache removed. God damn if wingo didn't take the crack to noggin dude might be semi normal

[@savagellama7213]

Maybe, if that was true. He also said the doctor took out a piece of his skull. If that was true he wouldn't be allowed to box.

[@llamaczech]

I love how Sunny describes Wings having a full emotional breakdown and weeping as "raging."

[@fartnloud7411]

Yeah, he can make decent documentaries but many times he discribes events the same way the mobs do. He's lacking an objective perspective.

[@jessehenderson2967]

"I'd cut off Child P**z off at twelve." "A 45 dating a 16 year old, 16 year olds can make their own damn decisions." And all the casual N words. No sympathy from me. Especially from someone who relies on charity and community to live. Nah, no sympathy from me at all son.

[@Bigtoedilemma]

​@@fartnloud7411 its because it isnt a "he". The voice you hear is just a part of the content farm. Sunnyv2 has multiple writers and editors behind it

[@fartnloud7411]

@leonardodillpickleo7201 makes sense, just looks bad in the final product. 😕

[@fabledogify]

What people don’t get is everyone feels sorry for Wings when you first get into him, once you follow him for an extended period of time your realize why he has this cult hate following

[@ShadowMarker423]

But don’t you think being a part of a “cult hate following” is really pathetic in its own right?

[@smokeemifyagotem8851]

@@ShadowMarker423 shut up snow flake. Wings doubled down on the age of consent being 12 please

[@TumpsBudGuy]

been watching wings since like 2014. 0 respect for him at all.

[@fookinkoont]

@@ShadowMarker423 nah mate, the homie deserves everything (excluding the illegal stuff)

[@rovertcelbor7929]

He deserves it until he quits the internet.

[@kinggodzilla_9523]

Wings is the perfect case study for not feeding the trolls. They're like sharks, as soon as they smell blood it's all over

[@akaiyoru2681]

@@mrman-yj3bn Oof, yeah. Chris chan shows a lot about humanity and how screwed up we can get. And even that doesn't get into the deepest depravities, despite touching some of those topics

[@slappytheclown4]

@@akaiyoru2681 bro chris chan raped his own mother. I don't care how bad wings is, he's nowhere close to Chris chan level.

[@AustinGubala]

I agree with Asmon when he said that telling people how you feel is a bad move. It really is, because it gives people a free pass to pick on you even more. It makes the situation worse, in most cases.

[@ZeonEons]

It's always a bad move as your subscribers will take your side regardless. But they won't stick around when you start getting unpopular Then all you have left are the trolls that will love everything you share just so they can keep using it against you. They will remain loyal, as long as the person it's directed at, keeps feeding them

[@dereenaldoambun9158]

Yup, "people" using your fragility to hit your nerve is the worst thing ever.

[@ericfieldman]

I don't think it's entirely uniform and unconditional like that. Pyrocynical is a huge target of mockery too, and is the only person popular enough for me to know of with a 100% confirmed fat fetish, and a lot of other things (follicles) people are constantly making fun of him for, but he'll often counter his audience and get pissed at stuff people say. The difference there is that he also makes fun of himself, makes good comebacks for a lot of accusations, and generally comes across as somebody who won't think about the criticism long after it's said. A behavior shown with his signature "cry about it." The real trouble comes when you start going on an un structured tangent, raising your pitch and changing your intonation, making it very clear that you are in fact the one crying about it. I still don't think it's respectable to be the guy to feed on that insecurity, but it's to be expected on those conditions. That's where the (emotion here)-cows come from.

[@mkhlfdrv4031]

I really like Josh Moon's take on it. When it comes to empathy, there exists a sort of uncanny valley, where a person becomes so pathetic, that instead of compassion people around them start feeling irritated. Think Bill from King of the Hill. That dog-like whimper at 44:10 is the moment Wings gets into that valley.

[@andreaalajmo271]

Mh, i dont agree on that one. I feel like it's just that he is so pathetic BUT relatable to a lot of people, feeling empathy for the guy would mean accepting you're in his same spot, and that's a nono. Personally i feel empathy for that clip, a lot. I've been in his mental state (without his weight problem) and have recognised i was a shitty person. And for that, i feel sad that he is pretty much unredeemable, cause he's alone, he can't find anyone to help him grow into a better person, and is pretty much condemned to this limbo of being mentally abused while working, with the catch that leaving would just remove all options but suicide. I dont think he's a good person, he's done and said pretty terrible shit. But he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. Nobody does, that's some fucking warcrime level abusive behaviour and the perpetrators should be held accountable. And also, people should realise how much of a cunt Kyle aka FpsRussia was and still is. I believe sunnyv2 has a video on his downfall as well.

[@Jacob-sb3su]

Im probably talking outta my ass here but I think thats because back when we were cavemen, pathetic people like that could endanger the tribe. Its a defense mechanism to keep the tribe as whole healthy

[@ravenID429]

LOL the way you described that is so funny and true

[@ravenID429]

@@Jacob-sb3suOooooo good point

[@thedudeabides2531]

As entitled and as despicable of a person Wings was, I honestly felt bad for the guy when he had a meltdown at 44:09. That was real human emotions right there. I hope he eventually gets his sh*t together.

[@asphalt-cowboy9479]

this may be a pretty serious character flaw on my part and im willing to own that yah know but i sincerely am incapable of feeling empathy for people like wings.. he in general just isnt a good person and brought all of his problems on himself because of his shady scumbag behavior.

[@AnotherOrdinaryGamer]

@@asphalt-cowboy9479 here in support of your sentiment. some folks fall beyond empathy or sympathy 💯 and that's not our fault that we don't feel it

[@ryman1933]

This video is a lot nicer to his character than most other videos are. He has done much worse things than this video tells.

[@hypethekomodo6495]

Wing's story is really sad to me, because people went out of their way to help him, often at their expense, and he just...doesn't take it. Then begins the pity parties and how there's nothing he can do, when a lot of it is just him unwilling to do so. That and him being so misleading to the people who supported him in regards to where their funds are going. I want to feel bad for the guy but I really feel like he's the one digging his own hole for a lot of this. I don't support the actions of the people who dedicate themselves to trolling him but a lot of this is his own doing. If he was just the least bit humble in that 1v1? I doubt anything that came after would've happened. After the super weird bribe attempt, that was the last straw for a lot of folks.

[@Dom213]

His story is not sad at all. It is more of a cautionary tale. Richard deserves every bad thing that happened and continues to happen to him.

[@ksiyaskid]

People definitely fuck with him more than he deserves but he also feeds into it the wrong way. Very unfortunate.

[@ksiyaskid]

@@ZeranZeran that’s fine. He’s earned his check with all the shit people give him.

[@ksiyaskid]

@@ZeranZeran get treated horribly, himself. Constantly. Without the ability to avoid it because a bunch of losers don’t know how far is too far. I know arguing this with logic won’t end well so just do you, kid.

[@ksiyaskid]

@@ZeranZeranAnd everyone clapped. Beautiful story. Doesn’t fit with the level of attacks Wing’s faces but Im clapping really hard.

[@endybendy5699]

I was nearly as big as WoR and I've lost nearly 200 pounds over the past two years. Literally half the man I was. Crazy thing is, one of my (many) rock bottoms was this video about WoR a few years back from this guy name Knudsen or something? Can't remember. But yeah it was this huge video and very entertaining and halfway through I was like "holy hell...that's me." And looking back and having gone through extreme weight loss, I can see where WoR (and Kyle) went very wrong. They went too hard too fast. Exercise at his size isn't only unnecessary, but probably more harmful than good because the thing about being 400 pounds, it hurts to move and is very difficult. You HAVE to start off slow. When I started exercising, I would just walk a half hour to an hour straight. Excellent exercise for anyone, but probably the only exercise you can do at 400 pounds. You don't lose that much weight from exercise, you lose it in the kitchen. Eat better and much, much less. I'm not sure what Kyle was feeding him since 'healthy' is pretty vague, but if it's simply salads and crap, he's gonna fall off that diet really quick.

[@IAmTheDerg]

Kyle probably had him on the CBR diet lol, and during my 80lb weight loss last year, I found I actually ate MORE food while in a deficit because it was a lot of low calorie-dense foods. But yeah, totally agree they went a little too hard. He could've just had someone meal prep and made tremendous strides, and once his organs and joints were no longer screaming from carrying around 200+ extra pounds of adipose tissue - THEN get him breaking a sweat from activity.

[@Plu7ology]

If you want to exercise at that weight you need a swimming pool. All that weight on your joints will cause failure if you exercise too much!

[@WrangleMcDangle]

do you have some sort of crazy strength from carrying around weight all your life and suddenly being light? i've always wondered if that's even a thing

[@crucialcatalyst]

Wanna say they had a friend in nutrition that did portioning for em. Watching around the time of the hike him not wanting to go made me stop watching all of them because that was the moment a lot of pka fans understood it to be a part of his “getting better” journey. That just told all of us “I’m not changing”

[@Lamren]

Exactly. You should not do any exercise that puts pressure on your knee joints at this size, you'll fuck them up heavily. Losing weight is 75% about the diet anyway, the exercise is a nice way to go further (also if you want muscle).

Shout out to Sean ranklin and Liquid Richard

[@brianknight2282]

Shout out to wings chair for holding it down and keeping him up.

[@squidiz496]

Big ups to all the finger sniffers!

[@harioschtroliki]

real tawk

[@dare2333]

Ok

[@SweetMints]

LOOK HERE, LOOK LISTEN!

[@Writeous0ne]

Letting people down and cancelling plans last moment are huge symptoms of anxiety disorder. You constantly let people down because the anxiety stops you from living a normal life, most people looking from the outside see it as laziness but it's not, it's mental illness.

[@ujjita7350]

as someone just like that, im glad some people do understand

[@Writeous0ne]

@@ujjita7350 it's a difficult life to live being misunderstood. It might feel like we are weak but bro we are here now because we are strong.

[@cr-nd8qh]

I do that too. It really sucks

[@alvinkey3468]

That's me all over, and it sucks.

[@ravenID429]

Those are also symptoms of laziness

[@daanw6270]

Bruh I have no clue who would win between Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris but basically calling him "just an actor" is far from reality. He was certainly a trained fighter

[@FlowKio]

Not to mention Chuck trained under Lee

[@lordbrowning]

"The miserable man seeks out an even more miserable man. Then he is happy..." - some wise dude

[@battleita]

Misery loves company.

[@SaltareObscurum]

What does this have to do with Gender🙄 It’s True but it Counts for all humans. Thats why Reality TV is so big, in the Past it was the Colosseum nowdays it’s Reality TV. For example the Show where they Are in a Jungle for 2? Weeks or so and eat weird Stuff, don’t know the english. But it’s just Crazy

[@theblobconsumes4859]

@@SaltareObscurum It has nothing to do with gender and the comment never implied that, why would you say that?

[@SaltareObscurum]

@@theblobconsumes4859 Isnt „man“ the english Word for Well „man“? So Why would i think That? Bc Well he Write it like That. If i Write „Woman Are xyz“ and somebody says hey thats not fair all humans Are xyz

[@SaltareObscurum]

@Tetsui Maybe the op did Write „a man“ 🤣 so hmmmmm why do i think That? Hmmmmm 😂😂 Im not nativ english but even i understand the Word „man“ And im not triggerd LOL 😂 it’s just a dumb comment of the op. Just say „human“ and it would be True.

[@garochucollects]

I would love for that interview series to actually be a thing. That would be unreal content.

[@mr_ThreeEight_1776]

Only for 10k, real tawk perimp

[@jareddavis8062]

If he would have leaned into the memes in the beginning he would be one of the biggest streamers ever. He’s literally a direct representation of 50% of all the gamers for the most part.

[@Of-AgeConsentingNon-Related]

he should have hired a professional producer or something to generate ideas, plan his schedule and boost the production value of his content. he had a shot at being a drdisrespect type comedy gaming character

[@mattimeikalainen6963]

​@@Of-AgeConsentingNon-Related nah he just needed to lean in instead of pushing back.

[@jlo7770]

​@@Of-AgeConsentingNon-Relatedhe literally refuses to have a schedule. Lol it's funny people that don't know anything about him think they have an idea how he could better his life.

[@kevinwalter4078]

I WISH Wings could be redeemed. It would be the greatest comeback story on KZbin. But multiple people over multiple years have tried to help him out of this massive rut and he's incapable of sticking to any plans or strategies to try to fix his life. You'd literally have to lock him in a room and force him to lose weight, while also shielding him from the internet to build up his confidence and self esteem. If he has the ability to quit, he'll quit. He has no motivation to actually go through with anything. Even after his bariatric surgery, he gained the weight he lost back. The man is lost.

[@ItsSayrn]

You can’t feel sad for dude who refuses to change he was given so many chances to get a new life but he refuses too and blame everyone but himself

[@Animo2006]

Where you're pointing out his chair shaking, he's tapping his foot aggressively. I do the same shit subconsciously when I game or watch a movie and I have severe anxiety. One of my previous downstairs neighbors complained about noise on a few occasions and I couldn't figure out what noise they were hearing because I'm a pretty quiet person in general, then it just clicked one day. Now I have a tennis ball on the floor that I roll under my feet instead of tapping and haven't had any noise complaints since.

[@mattwhite1244]

Dude i do the same thing, I'm gonna try the tennis ball out.

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

Dam. Also severe anxiety sucks man. It affects my games as well. I often mess up because I get way too scared too quickly. Sometimes my anxiety doesn't hit when I feel confident. And I play way better

[@Tread1]

Just in case anyone feels any pity for Wings after watching this video, keep in mind he has literally said ON STREAM that he thinks the age of consent should be lowered to 12 years old and that he skipped attending his grandmother's funeral so he could keep streaming in order to make more money.

[@jonmcnamara]

Also his grandmothers dying wish was for him to take care of her dog.. which he promptly gave away. Then got 2 other dogs.

[@benwallace9136]

Jonathan McNamara and abuses the fuck out of them. Pray for Rocco n Bailey

[@JesusRamirez03]

Wingo also said he planned mass shootings in the past

[@DMazz441]

THANK YOU!!! He also has a deleted stream of him knowingly flirting with underage girls in a very sexual nature.

[@espoire_]

Come da fuq awn wit that man, maddafact ban Tread

[@EwokPanda]

The moment at the beginning of the video where he was "diagnosed as bipolar" sets everything else up to not be surprising in the least.

[@TheAngelThatCry]

About bruce lee vs Chuck norris. Chuck has said that bruce lee had the skill to be a good fighter but not a tournament fighter. The fight in the movie was right after chuck became world champion on martial arts. Like a week or the day after bruce called him, saying that he wants to fight him in a movie. Chuck laught and ask "who will win the fight?", bruce answered "me". Chuck then said "you just want to beat the world champion dont you? Ok I'll do it"

[@plumeofsmoke2871]

People are cruel, man. But anybody who has worked a tough job knows that you never break, you never show weakness and folk will soon tire of harassing you.

[@redeyetrey4763]

He said countless of racist shit, had a conversation with two minors, said he’s ok with a 45 year old dating a 16 year old and he’ll cut CP at the age of 12

[@plumeofsmoke2871]

@@redeyetrey4763 Apologies, I dont recall the nature of this video.

[@diyartcollege1647]

The original video is 20 minutes and we can once again see how much commentary Asmon adds. Granted he did do the unrelated Chuck Norris segment but he still tripled the original runtime. If XqC watched the same video he would skip half of it and then leave to get food for the remaining ten minutes.

[@reyna1k]

I think you're confusing xqc with Hasan

[@TumpsBudGuy]

Ive watched wings for almost 10 years. This man deserves everything that he gets.

[@judgeprime3730]

You got that right piiiimmpppp

[@henrik1743]

Me too 10+ years and I agree

[@balancebreaker1561]

@Alexander Emelianov thats like saying the justice system is as bad as the criminal for punishing him/her

[@MrIkana]

@@balancebreaker1561 Except the trolls aren't the justice system and they aren't punishing wings for his wrongdoings, they're punishing him because it's easy and makes them feel good.

[@EnclosedPoolArea]

@@balancebreaker1561 lmao you trolls really thinking you're a "justice system"? Fucking cringe neckbeards. Touch grass.

[@Evolutional]

"I can't hold down a job" this is why, even though Amazon isn't the most amazing job in the world, I'm proud of myself for sticking with it. It's better than the shit I've had to do in the past and it has decent benefits, and if I decide to, it will pay for college. I've always looked at myself as a complete failure and now I don't, it's a nice feeling

[@auto144p6]

bahaha

[@Ronnie-mx1wu]

Good on you for being able to stick with Amazon. I've tried a few times and the longest I've lasted is a month.

[@chupachupah9419]

Good shit bro

[@itsallenwow]

That’s a really good mental health approach for yourself. Big respect for it

[@m4taylor780]

Ye collected yer wulfs! And ye hold it stable! Good job!

[@3a3ylon81]

44:19 compassion... dunno if I gotta say thanks or I like you a lot for that AsmongoldTV... it's a genuine kind soul behaviour moment, pretty rare nowadays, ppl are bad at being empathic, so compassion.. it's a word a lot of people will never experience the definition. I felt bad for teh guy too, buy I'm not a streamer so I didn't think about turning off the stream immediatly like you did. Thanks

[@scottuk894]

I have to agree with Asmon, Bruce Lee today would have been silenced in mystical martial art status by the UFC. He likely would have been called out the first time he talked the way he did, and simply rejecting an actual "youtuber" style fight would make him less the legend.

[@Brian2]

Asmon: Never say what you feel! Zack: Emotionally letting out during his career multiple times.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

I think it depends on the fanbase. Asmon started as the degenerate wow neckbeard and gradually opened up to his audience and, in a way, they kinda grew with him.

[@yurtyybomb]

The context is what matters. If you make a dedicated treehouse video about your mom dying or struggling with motivation, yeah you'll get support. If you're reacting to trolls and losing it, then it spirals.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

@@Vihara2 Yeah but we also have a plethora of asmon malding videos. He wasn't this guy with muted reactions to failure, he would scream and break his face on shit. Its just his fanbase chose to evolve with him instead of continually forcing him to create negative reactions by trolling him.

[@Brian2]

@@yurtyybomb Of course it does, I was simply pointing out how he was being too broad and unclear to the point of hypocrisy, which was funny.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

@@Vihara2 That was a zombie mode where it was him and mcconnel vs 50 zombie players. They werent trolling him they were fuckin around because he couldnt find anybody to play with.

[@joly9170]

I agree with Asmon on the Bruce Lee take. We always compare modern MMA fighters with their stats.

[@michaelbeard4883]

@@Sekkizan chuck also knows judo

[@alondor8157]

@@Sekkizan Actually most of MMA IS utilizing traditional martial arts. Just not all of it. ( most mma is a combination of Taekwon do, Ju jitsu, and kick boxing/ muay tai) No, you're not going to do a dragon kick in MMA Obviously, and traditional martial artists know this. But they teach it for the purpose of demonstrating skill, and discipline. I'm a black belt in Tae kwon do, and full well wouldn't use half of what I learned. But the rest is important.

[@davipenha]

I agree that in a karate tournament ofc Chuck Norris would win. It's a sport that has its rules and the competition is about be the best at the sport. It's like fencing on the olympics, wins who has the best technique for the sport

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

@@Sekkizan No one in MMA uses Karate. Who trains Wing Tzun? Bruce Lees PERSONALLY invented martial arts? Police, FBI, Military and all over the world. Google before you talk shit. Karate is one of the least used martial arts because its extremely rigid in it's usage and mostly regarded as a tournament combat sport. MMA fighters mostly use Sambo, Wrestling and Brasilian jijitsu. CORRECTION: I was talking about jeet kune do, not wing tsun. My fault.

[@liuzhaoqi2003]

I think the problem here is Asmon doesn't know Bruce Lee or Karate that will, he maybe think all martial art is the same, not knowing Karate tournaments basically just sport boxing.

[@beaux6251]

Oh muh lord, the troll channels are about to have a field day with this one…

[@classycanadian]

This should have been labelled as Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee as that arc of this video was way more interesting LUL

[@bangthehankers1985]

Never watched him in my life, but just watching this and hearing about his early childhood, I presume that Jordie is suffering significantly as a result of traumas sustained in childhood. Need for external validation, low self-esteem, hypersensitivity to criticism, obvious depression, probably lack of motivation and learned helplessness, alienation of friends, eating disorder, poor stress tolerance, emotional lability and clear issues with rage. He has it all. He has to fix it if he wants to live a normal life.

[@blueberry5822]

Me : Sees asmon watching Wings My Brain : LOOK THERE, LOOK LISTEN!

[@asoiic]

It's no weird seeing videos made on Wings, I've watched him for years on PKA and his streams, unreal

[@gamebredbullterriers5669]

I love PKA but nvr watched Wings.

[@ProjectStarLIGHTS]

@@gamebredbullterriers5669 His videos used to be pretty good. He got lazy back when MW3 was out and started using others content submitted to him and commentating over it.

[@XionEternum]

I find the "Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee / not even close" analogy rather amusing as the two trained together regularly with only admissions of sparring but never a real fight in any interviews with Norris.

[@XionEternum]

@@VaSoapman Also take stock of the fact Norris is unwilling to claim who "won" those sparring matches. Taken at face empirical value, this means nothing other than the one person alive who knows isn't willing to answer. Taken as an implied lie of omission, he's too ashamed to admit he lost those sparring matches. Do watch those movies where they were both together, and it's abundantly clear they are at most one boxing weight class different. Bigger does typically mean longer reach and heavier hits, smaller does typically mean faster movement and smaller target. Based on their actual size difference as shown in film, these differences are reasonably minor. Original point remains. See, it's more fun when you don't play favorites~ You get to cheer no matter who wins!

[@bennymountain1]

@@XionEternum No, Norris refusing to mention who "won" means he's showing decency to friend who died. And that being in acting business himself he knows that would be a disastrous PR for his larger than life persona.

[@XionEternum]

@@bennymountain1 Possibly, but the simple fact remains: It wouldn't be "not even close" as said in the OP. As they trained together, I suspect they were fairly evenly matched due mostly to knowing how the other fights all too well. We're talking stalemates mostly with a fairly balanced distribution of wins between the two. EDIT: And even if it was fairly one-sided, they would've still been close.

[@strangeman9362]

@@XionEternum sure cool story bro

[@cam4146]

I think Asmon misunderstood the movie reasoning. Hong Kong had numerous clubs that had tourneys multiple times a year. Saying Bruce Lee never won anything is like saying Rocky Johnson (The Rock's Dad) never won the WWE/WWF, because there simply. It's always easier for you to understand items closer to your sphere of influence. There is no physical record of Bruce Lee winning because it's kinda hard to organize anything with civil unrest constantly going on against the british (curfews and whatnot). Remember, just like the soviet union with churches, 40s germany with swing music, the british were heavily monitoring the gyms where many young men were coalescing. Bruce and Chuck are the same age and both entered the movie business. Asmon is not wrong to be confident in believing Chuck might win, with him actually having a fighting record but I think, for the sake of a fair argument, he should have spent that 3 seconds to understand Bruce Lee's background. Truthfully, comparing a man who fights and regularly wins with set rules vs a man that fought policemen, gangsters, and fighting masters in the alleys of HK, it would be hard to gauge who would win. I suspect that Bruce Lee's shady HK history whilst being a respectable fighter made Chuck believe Bruce might win (Chuck is might also be being too humble and kind).

[@seangriffin5524]

I put this video on last night and was too high to watch it. It made me feel so bad for him that I couldn’t take it. I’m sober now and I still feel for this dude. Great job analyzing it though.

[@savagewolf5918]

You really shouldn't ya some of the bullying goes too far but this video omits a lot of the terrible shit he did

[@HackerArmy03]

Problem with Wings is that he was helped by his community via donation of money and whatnot. But not only did he never followed any of the health things he promised (Surgery, etc.), he also lied about where he spent the money he was given. Sad, really. He should've stopped streaming and focused on himself. Anyways, why's asmon awfully defending Wings even on some obvious mistake of his? I don't really like how he even said "(Chat accuses wings of something) No he's not! You just don't like him" Wtf is that reasoning?

[@Indiana1337]

Tbf he said "No he's not, you just don't like him" when chat said people aren't cruel and that wings was only baiting for sympathy. It's disingenous to just remove the context to why he said it.

[@arosbastion7052]

@@Indiana1337 which is still wrong because wings literally is baiting for sympathy

[@Indiana1337]

@@arosbastion7052 I'm not defending Wings though? I'm specifically saying that it's disingenous to replace the actual context behind why Asmon said "No he's not, you just don't like him"

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

@@Indiana1337 I don't like Wings either, but that don't mean I have a right to make his life hell, even if it is funny or cathartic in some way. It just makes me feel like a bully.

[@arosbastion7052]

@@ChaldeaWarmaster he literally lied abd stole peoples money. Mean words aren't the end of the world

[@librask3009]

Shortly after SunnyV2's video on him, Wings suggested the age of consent should be lowered to 12. I don't think there's any realistic redemption in WingsOfRedemption

[@connorm3040]

no excuse, but hes bipolar, i dont take everything kanye says as fact. hopefully he was having a manic episode when he said that because thats messed up.

[@beaux6251]

@King DJ south currlina

[@HackerArmy03]

@@connorm3040 Bipolar or not he still said it. He clearly has mental problems and should've never taken to streaming. His fanbase donated him money for his health and he lied where he spent it.

[@KopperNeoman]

Remember to throw in the "OK Groomer."

[@pilz4566]

@@connorm3040 being bipolar and manic doesnt make you say such dumb shit.

[@Megaman8880]

I've never heard of this guy but it sounds like he needs real friends. Tragic, because at this stage in his life the odds are against him developing a good support system of people around him that can encourage him to make good decisions. He's deep in the shit right now with no one to help him get out, and you don't find that support from people on the internet. I used to be heavy too, and you can see the progress I made in my picture here and in some videos on my channel. It makes all the difference to be surrounded by people who are in your corner cheering you on, and he has just the opposite of that.

[@Daniel_WR_Hart]

Look up FPS boot camp. He already had a lot of support but he threw it away.

[@desoIate]

he's had plenty of friends in the past, but treated them like trash. wings has a problem of lashing out at people who are the closest to him

[@MaksimY_]

He deserves friends yes, but who deserves to be his friend 😂

[@kcototheyoyoyo]

The background music went so well Asmon’s post video comments

[@jdarokhajiit9153]

I love the look of bliss on zack's face on that outro clip where he is dancing

[@jdarokhajiit9153]

@Spitsworth fair tbh

[@sniffer94]

Oh boi have I been waiting for Asmongold to react to these "Wings Documentry" style of videos. XD As a long time WingsOfRedemption fan to around 2014 becoming Asmongold fan, just going from Neet to Neet. It's great! XD

[@newgenesisdesigns4360]

just FYI CHuck Norris was trained by Bruce Lee for two years, and in the scene where they fought in The Way Of The Dragon, they actually threw blows at eachother and more or less sparred at full contact, its known as the "illegal fight scene".. chuck norris has also said that Bruce couldve beat up anyone he wanted at anytime if he really wanted to, also that he " wanted to do a lot more then just beat me" in a fight lol their friendship/rivalry is so interesting

[@mattpires607]

Totally false. Chuck Norris actually knew how to wrestle and grapple. Bruce lee never competed. There is no question. Also the thing about the “illegal fight” is a myth. Chuck got hurt Filming a scene but that’s like saying an actor is a good sword fighter because he hurt another actor in a fake sword fight. That does not make you a good fighter that makes you a bad actor lol. There’s a reason Bruce lee never competed and it’s exactly what asmon said

[@SolomonSide3]

@@mattpires607 Probably because he gained notoriety via films vs Norris in competition + w/e side hustle he may have been working at the time. I have no opinion on "who would win" but given equal or near equal weight it would certainly be entertaining given the correct circumstances.

[@bigposts6673]

44:30 This really got me. Lonely. Just wanted to stream and have a good game and have a good time. I know there's an entire wrap sheet and comments saying all the things he's done. Ok. But being a loner myself and even preferring solitude, sometimes it's gets deafening lonely. I can sympathize with this feeling and it sucks. I just want to have a good time too.

[@notanopp5053]

WINGS TOURTEUED A KITTEN HE DESERVES ALL OF THIS BY 10X IF YOU THINK THIS ISNT WINGS FAULT THEN YOUR JUST AS BAD AS HIM!!!!

[@alpha12421]

@@notanopp5053 love how you copy and pasted this comment 4 times 😂

[@ikeepcoins388]

Personally, I think the story is just sad, but its the sad reality and truth of some people. You just can't help some people because they don't want to help themselves. When you're so deep in the hole, you just stop caring.

[@seankeimakiuchi8055]

Asmon thinks Bruce Lee was just a mere actor......... That literally broke my soul, but it is what it is!

[@GoblinSlayerZach]

I went through a WoR period where I couldn’t get enough of the retractor vids. I’ve moved on but I, to this day, still say “LOOK HERE! LOOK! LISTEN!” Whenever I’m upset with my friends while gaming. Sadly they think it’s “my thing”. I tried telling them about WoR and the legion of retractors and trying to justify it but the more times I explained it out loud to other people the more I realized how fucked up it all was. Like if you saw the vid of the guy who tied his cat to a ceiling fan and you tried to explain why you thought it was funny. Not many people were laughing with me, just judging. So I gave it up.

[@brotherjamesstrang]

Real tawk

[@Of-AgeConsentingNon-Related]

ya whatever dood i hope your family arrives to their destination safely after travesing the motorways in their automobile.

[@patrickboian8545]

Real Tawk. Those troll channels were unreal lol.

[@siloren7928]

The wings of redemption trolls are way to good at what they do. To have a large community of trolls like that is beyond me.

[@EdouardPicard0224]

They mostly do it because Wingsofredemption is a genuinely bad person.

[@Mckillin]

this reminds me of this guy i used to watch named Avilo. He played Starcraft 2 which is a game i really enjoyed. The guy had so many trolls, would rage out all the time and would do really crazy controversial stuff and was kinda a creep when it came to girl twitch streamers. He was insanely entertaining though i thought. he really went down hill. but there is a documentary type video on him too.

[@v1tnir]

Was he the guy who exclusively played mech and had a wicked lisp? If so good lord I hate that guy lmao

[@Mckillin]

@@v1tnir yeah that was him. Hahaha. So many people hated him. I thought he was mad funny but yeah he was a nut job. Very hated by the community.

[@banditvinchenzo347]

I've been practice both karate and Wing Chun myself for over a decade and I just wanted to point out that while Chuck Norris was a tough SOB and a legendary champion, someone one being a karate tournament champion doesn't necessarily mean they'd be good in a real fight against another trained martial artist and I think the context is atleast worth mentioning because Bruce and Chuck's martial practices outside of the hollywood setting were very different. I'm also not saying that Bruce Lee would for sure beat him or anything either, but In karate tournaments the bout only lasts until the first proper blow is landed and a point is earned, unlike boxing or actual street fighting with no rules. Bruce Lee didn't like point matches because they're not real fighting and he didnt like the idea of stopping at a single blow because that makes no sense outside of the context of a sport, and he wanted to train for the street rather than sport because he grew up having to defend himself at times. It's a little bit difficult to compare the two when one goes until someone is down or dead, and the other only goes until a single blow has landed. That being said, seeing a real and non choreographed fight between the two would be awesome and it would be cool to see the two titans of their time clash regardless of who came out on top. I wouldn't even know who to root for

[@astrowerm]

We need more sunnyv2 deep dives. He can't push out a video every other day doing these longer ones though.

[@paakmah99]

Wow this is huge for a big streamer to come out in support for wings. People look for all kind of excuses to beat this man down and its super lame to me. I know he's said and done some stupid things but he atleast is self aware about his own problems.

[@shadow6743]

To the guy that said Asmon never wins just saying man we are both watching him. I would say that means he's won. 🥇

[@wesdavis2696]

Came for Asmon reaction to WoR, stayed for Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris

[@nafetsbrusa4803]

You mean Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee, put the winners name first. Lol

[@Dougfunny37]

Allow me to settle the Bruce lee vs chuck norris debate: They made a literal movie together during the height of chucks taekwondo career (great movie too.) while training for the movie chuck taught Bruce many techniques that he incorporated into both training and future movies. Bruce considered chuck to be a mentor and also afterwards flew out to California to train with Mr. Norris for a whole summer. It’s not even a fair comparison, Bruce lee was a talented martial artist and often considered The Godfather of MMA. BUT he was still considered a student of many styles and not truly a master of any. In the one known video of him sparring, he demonstrated a glaring number of holes in his style that people have pointed out since he died. Chuck wasn’t even the only person who was known to have been significantly better then Bruce while working with him. Gene label is another interesting story

[@tophsoutdoors]

Asmons take on Chuck versus Bruce was a perfect take.

[@MarioDMar7]

You know, in my country I had to deal with something similar. When corona came I had just graduated with a Computer Science and I couldn't get a job for a year in my area, it was already difficult here and that just destroyed most opportunities. I still don't have a job on that, I found a job as a customer service rep for a U.S. company in a call center. I hated it and I still do. I'm still looking, but it's really disappointing...

[@missdeadite9696]

on the Bruce Lee v Chuck Norris thing: In a karate tournament Chuck would win. In a street fight I lean towards Bruce Lee. Bruce lee had to win fights to live back home. and he was constantly in street fights in the US while he lived there. It depends on the setting.

[@whiteflame24]

Bruce lee was literally never in fights dude, all of that is bullshit he was just a hollywood fight coordinator. He has one recorded fight ever and it looks like shit. He would get torn apart by chuck who was a legit prize fighter in any setting

[@missdeadite9696]

@@whiteflame24 hah, cool story bro.

[@dontcare3]

@@missdeadite9696 hes right though.

[@missdeadite9696]

@@dontcare3 neat

[@liuzhaoqi2003]

@@whiteflame24 Kid, back in the day, there is no fight coordinator, martial arts isn't even a thing in hollywood, that's what Bruce lee bring to the table.

[@dannylight7022]

What is more sad are people who go out they're way just to troll or hate watch him. It's like how boring is your life if you find this entertaining to do

[@AR15andGOD]

Yea because having fun watching a fat person utterly fail at everything tooootally isn't entertaining. Must require such a boring life to watch a youtube video, not like you aren't doing the exact same watching worthless pointless videos that you enjoy

[@Spartan_83]

According to Chuck-yes! Norris once said that he wouldn't fight Bruce in a real street fight. They had many sparring sessions together.

[@charlethemagne5466]

The whole thing with the fake crying is ridiculous, everything i've seen from wingsofredemption is that he is an insecure man that isn't mature enough to handle his emotions, and considering how rough his childhood was that insecurity and loneliness runs deep. I genuinely feel sorry for him, he's never been actively malicious.

[@Xapheion101]

Same as someone who struggles with lonelyness I feel so bad for him.

[@kugelblitzkrieg]

He literally talked to underage girls ON STREAM, what do you mean “not malicious?”

[@hankthemiltanktv1306]

Shout out to kyles shower

[@ZoomNotice]

Kyle has lumi in that shower now

[@michaelrufusjones5910]

There is something very important Asmon needs to know, it's that matial arts competitions, especially outside MMA, don't really reflect how a fighter would fare in a real fight. Tournaments are sport, with many limitations, and many great fighters don't care about them. Bruce Lee was involved in real fights many times, and developed Jeet Kune Do in that regard. He was not just a sportsman, he was both a martial artist and a brawler to begin with. Bruce Lee's speed and strength for his size were unmatched, Chuck Norris himself told he was "lightning fast" and looked up to him as an exceptional fighter. According to Jon T Benn, he asked Chuck who would win between Bruce and himself, and Chuck answered without hesitating : "Bruce of course. Nobody can beat him.". Of course it's a bit of a stretch because of his height and weight, but when it comes to just Bruce and Chuck, I think it would be Bruce.

[@macho10101]

Im on no one's side when it comes to wings.. The trolls are just bad as him and he isnt good either I think he deserves the trolls in some way because he really is a terrible human being.. and yet i feel bad for him But i think the trolls go too far as well and are not even reasonable most of the time.. They hate on him for EVERY single little thing just because they can.. And some trolls do actions that go too far one of the things that i really do not understand is how the trolls are bothered about him being racist but the moment u go to their discord channel n word is being dropped every few messages.. both sides just seem terrible. I do not think its weird for people to dislike the guy because he is really a piece of shit but most of the trolls are no better than him But man is it addicting to watch this stuff.. its like some kind of reality show

[@ProjectStarLIGHTS]

They're worse at this point. When he got swatted, that should've been the end of it. That they believe he deserved potential death by cop is disgusting.

[@sarzootashoota351]

Look up the German term schadenfreude and it will all make sense

[@Digger-Nick]

@@ProjectStarLIGHTS Wings has wished death via vehicular happenstance to many people he came across.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

The legend of Bruce Lee really is incredible. The man never competed but many assume he's unstoppable. There's no footage of Bruce Lee in a real fight. Not only that, but Bruce Lee was very small (130 lbs). Chuck Norris was literally the best fighter in his sport. He also destroyed several people in street fights. Bruce Lee brought martial arts to the mainstream and made nunchucks popular. So I love him, but saying he would lose against a professional fighter is not a crazy statement.

[@MaskOfAgamemnon]

I got fired for the first time in my life two years ago and I'm still not over it.

[@rajder656]

Honestly i'd love to see another greek chad arc. Wings working out of spite for the haters. That shit would be pure content

[@rajder656]

@@Drak976 i did? He failed multiple times and fucked up his friendships with pka and especially kyle because of that. What i ment was him actually doing that and pushing through

[@IAmStickyWicky]

The Chuck Nortis vs Bruce Lee thing, has to be one of the weirdest takes I've ever heard. They both spent their entire lives training in martial arts. I imagine a good portion of that training probably involved fighting dudes. X amount of minutes fighting dudes in front of an audience, doesn't amount to much compared to 2 lifetimes of experience fighting dudes. The outcome is unknowable.

[@Ekstrax]

Asmon is a based god, a rare oasis of calm and reason in a cesspit of people. Fcking great content again

[@TheTicain]

You cant help someone who doesn't want to move on... You just can't

[@noyourewrong599]

yeah someone who actually train to beat other top fighters (and wins regularly) has a huge up on a dancer/actor like Bruce. He didn’t fight any good fighters, he made great koreography, did tons of stretching and worked on his ”fighting squeals”

[@gorlab9549]

Asmons right about Chuck Norris, you don’t see a single person using Jeet Kun Do in any mma professional fights. Hundreds use karate and have karate championships, Chuck was an actual fighter. Bruce Lee was a practitioner, there’s a difference.

[@zak725]

As someone who don’t really know who Chuck Norris is I can’t comment on the outcome of that fight. But while Bruce Lee is a decent martial artist and his way of thinking is definitely ahead of his time (people back in those days usually only learned a single type of martial art and Bruce Lee is kind of the earlier wave of “mixed martial artists”) I agree that Bruce Lee would 100% get destroyed by the top competitors back then

[@Shearsss]

Absolutely correct, and this isn't considering the weight class difference

[@liuzhaoqi2003]

Karate is not for fighting, that's the first thing my Karate teacher told me, and most MMA fan will tell you Karate is not effective, it's an old style that didn't evolve through time

[@gorlab9549]

@@Otakahunt “I don’t fear the man who knows 1000 kicks, I fear the man who has practiced one kick 1000 times.” -Bruce Lee

[@gorlab9549]

@@liuzhaoqi2003 modern karate as a base is quite different from self defense techniques, there are karate practitioners who incorporate mma techniques these days. Look at old Conor Mcgregor using a karate stance or Wonder Boy Thompson who started off kickboxing in Chuck Norris’s kickboxing league and still uses a karate stance.

[@hodlcrypto6026]

Big up wings It's clear that wings isn't all there, and that's not to make fun of him, sometimes people have to realize that some people arent okay, the fact that wings didnt comprehend the things he was saying and thinking it was okay, says it all.

[@novapheonixgaming]

fuck you fuck your opinions your wrong your actually giving this walking tub or disrespect and self pity probs i fucking hate people like you and him no excuses he didnt even have it that bad

[@GamingTeaParty]

That moment that confirms that 58% of Asmon's audience thinks movies are like real life.

[@GamingTeaParty]

"... from watching his movies, not his wins in competition, since he wasn't an active martial artist competitor." ... Seemed like you left a relevant idea off that paragraph so I just wanted to finish it for you. Because all those people you mentioned base their opinion off of movies, since they can't point to any W's this man made in a competition against national-level talent. Bias is Bias, nothing you said changes that basic idea. No one asked "Who would be the better movie fighter?" We have great examples to support the answer to that question. "Who would win in a fight?" ... We have Chuck Norris beating up national-level talent, and Bruce Lee ... beating up actors. Hey, you do you bro, you're welcome to whatever opinion you'd like.

[@TheJustifiedDevil]

@@-Gax- Like memes aside Chuck has several black belts himself and holded the world title for the midweight karate championship for 6 years. Its not that people look down of Bruce, he is also a great fighter for sure, its just that well ods are in chuck favor by simply more provable achievements.

[@sgtothemaximum]

@@GamingTeaParty Late comment but Bruce Lee is a proven fighter. His entire style of martial arts Jeet Kune Do is a combination of multiple fighting styles and is essentially one of the earliest MMA style fighters. His ideology was to finish fights fast as to reduce the chance of you being hurt. I agree that in a regulated fight, Chuck Norris would have the advantage but to say he destroys Bruce Lee is retarded. In a street fight, Bruce is putting Chuck in a wheel chair. People need to do a little research before having such strong opinions.

[@strangeman9362]

Majority of Bruce lee fans are ignorant to martial combat sports or fighting in general

[@CidZombie]

For a period of about two years, Lee and Norris trained and worked out together in Norris' backyard. According to Norris, their training together never involved an actual fight, but he has admitted in the past that some “sparring” did occur in their training. Now with this info and The knowledge that Chuck Norris has said multiple times Bruce would beat him in a fight it’s clear who would win.

[@TheLutherRed]

About a decade ago, I asked Wings if he'd play Call of Duty with me, I didn't expect an answer but I later got a notification... "No."

[@librask3009]

Asmon on that SunnyV2 binge just a few days after I chose to binge his videos

[@notoriousn.i.g.5458]

Same here haha

[@jesusofsuburbia3675]

Already finished the last one and just now watching this 🍿

[@crammerstv9463]

Seeing those real sweet kids on asmons channel is pretty mad

[@Playmakerrob]

Wings brings the trolls onto himself it’s like a person that invites trouble to their own door. Of course it’ll blow up in your own face. Especially when you stream daily and wear your emotions on your sleeve.

[@HerroItsTokyo]

The job stuff is definitely true. It seems like everywhere I go, every company hires through temp agency’s. It’s always “you’ll get hired on in 90 days” and then you’ve been there for 8 months (literally the job I have right now) and you’re still not with the company. I’m 28 years old and the longest I’ve ever worked somewhere is where I work now (8 months, still a temp) and the most I’ve ever made is what I make now, 18 bucks. The worst part is there is no where else I can go. I’m in school right now so hopefully that gets better but it’s very depressing.

[@Roman-wv4rd]

Chuck said him self they fought and Bruce won he said he has no chance. Bruce fought all of his life in Hong kong , before states

[@tac7073]

LOOK HERE! LOOK LISTEN!

[@thehaveninthehand]

I used to find it impossible, that there are people out there that enjoy inflicting this kind of pain on people. That there are people that enjoy stalking and terrorising others like these stream snipers did. But they're out there. I hope Wings and others like him get to a point where they don't get hurt by the trolls.

[@kugelblitzkrieg]

He literally talked to underage girls on stream. While I don’t agree with trolling streamers, he deserves absolutely NO sympathy.

[@Foxtail190]

People say he's fake crying because they just don't understand what it's like to be bullied. They don't seem to understand what words and actions do to others. Crazy stuff man.

[@egonieser]

The thing about championships and competitive Martial arts is: There's too many rules and you can't break them or you forfeit/lose. Someone once rightly said that a champion Karate MA won't beat someone like a competent kickboxer or even self taught, but very experienced MMA fighter becauce Karate or any other single individual disciplines have to abide by the rulesets of said disciplines. It does not deviate from it. A karate fighter is trained only to fight another Karate fighter, Judo vs Judo etc. One might be a champion in a particular MA discipline, doesn't mean that if they went out on a ring they would win unless the same exact rulesets are defined. This is where MMA comes in, which is mixed martial arts - combined all the martial arts/kickboxing disciplines for maximum effect and lethality, and those fighters would wipe the floor with all the Individual Karate/Judo/Jiu Jitsu champions because they don't conform within a single discipline or ruleset.

[@mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028]

Asmon: watching Nick Avacado spiral out of control is the best video I’ve seen. Asmon: watching WoR spiral out of control is legit sad. I feel bad for him.

[@MT-UK]

Lmfao - 43:12 absolutely killed me 😂🤣💀😭😭😭 Asmongold reaction just had me rollin’

[@TheScablander]

I just got me some Wendy’s chili for the first time, and I gotta say, I get it now.

[@vyirusxgaming8201]

One thing I can disagree with Asmong on is the fact that Bruce lee although did not win championships was however a known underground street fighter for the triades, so I would say that would be a huge exception. Considering the type of fight rules or not Brice lee may have had an upper edge considering his street fighting knowledge.

[@omganotherun]

46:10 The Barney costume troll with a trombone example hits deep.

[@lagon7830]

I always found complaints about camping odd. Firstly, holding an angle is a very common duty when combat occurs in an urban area. Secondly, call of duty was pretty much designed for it. There's no real objectives, no reason to push or pull. You simply existed in urban combat with a rifle, why wouldn't you just hold an angle. Having played arma3 since its release, there's time when you're gonna be holding an angle for 15 minutes, and there's times when you'll be clearing buildings, pushing through the environment, or disengaging. Hell, most modern combat for decades has been to keep your head down and wait for air/fire support.

[@Pikopati]

This is like reading the resume of a book on the internet and then come to say what the book is about. There are so many things that this video didn't cover that shows really how bad this guy is like never taking any responsibility. Clearly they are not part of it because of the length of the video would be more than one hour.. Which already exists and is the "down the rabbit hole" video

[@laughincoffin9842]

Chuck also created a martial art by combining multiple into 1.

[@sparkpoi]

I didn't really know the whole story here and it's pretty sad to me. I agree that a redemption arc for this guy is possible. I don't know if he's capable of it, but it would be nice to see.

[@jlo7770]

No it's not. Wings refuses to do anything to better his life he's literally sniffing his chair for donations. He's a pos and this interview is the worst one out there. Completely skips all the under age accusations he has against him. This was straight trash

[@wild5851]

I mean I understand asmonds opinion on who’s better Bruce lee or chuck, asmond is a person that believes in a past record that is visual and has actual backup, while Bruce lee was mainly a movie star. he was trained by ip man one of the greatest martial artists ever, but he never went up against a lot of the stronger fighters of the time so there is no proof who would’ve won

[@HomerNarr]

On Bruce Lee vs. Chuck Norris: Very important would have been the weight classes and height / reach. Also BL did not want to fight under the restricted rules of Karate. Which then leaves the questions under which rules Asmon thought they would fight. On the "Actor" argument: CN was also an Actor later on. Why bring this up? BL underwent multiple trainings in different fighting styles and famously created his own style. BL did insane training every day. His style was fast and adaptive. It would not have been as clean cut as Asmon argues. Chuck might also never claim to have won over Bruce. Chuck trained under Bruce. Since Bruce was Chuck Norris' "sifu" (teacher) and Chuck had outmost respect for Bruce and it was Bruce who gave the biggest push to Chucks overall career with offering CN the role in "Way of the Tiger" this is out of question. Both are/were great people, but Bruce Lee is a Legend. Oh and by the way its more "eep mahn" not I P man.