Asmongold Reacts to "Rise of the Scam MMO" | By Josh Strife Hayes

The Next WoW Killer or just blatant scams? Asmongold watches a video by Josh Strife Hayes who discusses about the characteristics of the typical Scam MMORPGs and how these "developers" try to con unexperienced and sometimes too hopeful players with scam kickstarters...
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[@AsmonTV]

Thank you all for watching! If you enjoyed this make sure to check out Josh's KZbin channel *kzbin.info/door/RWyPm7MrfotIYF8A8MGV3g* and you might also be interested about a new Scam MMO Josh recently reviewed, which aims to rise just around 500 billion dollars for its development, Earth 2! *kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqDHaISQZ651jbM*

[@dragonblade7273]

BUY SHIBA INU

[@rippaw6664]

Its not okey to defraud others in any way, whether they are "stupid" or not as you call them.

[@ohmydawg1571]

@@maxroronoa8500 and this comment makes you look like a scammer.

[@slapdisgaem6601]

Love how you explained Trumps tactics in this one. He did exactly that. When he said he'll build a wall I new he was a scam and I was out. The idiots remained. That's why all Trump rallys were full of idiots.

[@markmitchell153]

@@maxroronoa8500 this is 100% laughable. Watch Josh's videos and the others doing the same. This shit isnt some1 trying to make a living. It's someone lying and then running off with donations. That shit ain't ok it's just as bad a scamming old people, because alot of these people are kids they dont know enough to realize where it's going. Saying this is ok is absolute bullshit, they can get a real fucking job and actually make a game instead of lying putting in minimum effort and ditching

[@wiseferret4745]

"These people are 29 and have the intelligence of a walrus." I have never felt so attacked. 😢

[@Naptosis]

At least you're thicc and have great facial hair!

[@daviouscram2101]

There's a lot of people who are missing the ability to read/spell and do basic math. I find it most fun when it comes to dudes. Because looks and likeability are so important that these facilities are often overlooked. But they just assume that the person they are with, are of similar intellect. And I'm like why don't you go test her in a simple and casual way and find out.

[@azure5584]

But you're a ferret for fuck's sake; why would you feel attacked by a walrus statement?

[@greenthunder1000]

At least you don’t have the intelligence of the average hunter

[@druid_zephyrus]

@@daviouscram2101 I assume you meant "faculties". This is not not attack, but yeah. There are a BUNCH of ppl who are illiterate and a bunch that cannot add nor add negatives, it isn't funny it is a sign of a failed system. If we are talking about "western" society, most of these countries, often included in that category, are some of the richest ever in human history...and yet there is still a system in place that makes it so some people MUST leave schooling before becoming literate in reading and mathematics. Any system with as much funding as these have should have zero possibility of having any person fall through the cracks. Capitalism is bad because there are illiterate people. -Koller's Hairpick (I have a fro, so no razor)

[@waffleserzeant3327]

WoW is the WoW killer.

[@BasedChadman]

Been saying this. WoW is killing itself, but the MMO genre is so washed that nothing has claimed the throne. Everything of similar or higher quality fails to capture all the criteria WoW met for us back in the day with a stellar world, lore, gameplay, pvp, raid designs, and quality dungeons. FFXIV falls short in too many departments to dethrone it as do ESO and GW2, but maybe Ashes will live up to the hype.

[@sirnonapplicable]

@@BasedChadman Out of curiosity, what does FFIV do wrong?

[@BasedChadman]

@@sirnonapplicable Pvp is half-baked and virtually nonexistent, it's not far off from raid or die, there aren't enough solo mechanics to farm outside raid days, tomestone roulettes are boring and lack variety (love spamming 2 dungeons every day for resource), and there's no incentive to do repeatable content like m+ in the game. Relic weapon farming is basically the only worthwhile grind outside raids and is always rendered useless halfway into an xpac anyway, so it's hard to justify playing the game for any reason but static raiding aside from cosmetics and social aspects. I love the game, but it really needs more types of content and not just content in general.

[@cyrielroelofs]

Such an original comment holy shit, never seen this ur a true prioneer

[@TheRiviaWitcher]

Killer is the killer WoW

[@hypethekomodo6495]

I only recently stumbled into Josh's channel, but yeah his stuff is really good. His "Worst MMO Ever" series is fantastic.

[@Leispada]

@@SquaulDuNeant hmm. repetitive arguments?

[@darkmistico]

look out his second channel he uploads gameplays sometimes of old videogames of the ps1 era

[@tomasskala4405]

Imagine successfully running a kick-starter and actually delivering what you promised. Hard to believe nowadays huh?

[@thigh.enjoyer.]

Its honestly sad

[@MichaelNobleMusic]

Done it for my past game. We're gearing up to launch a new one and not gonna lie, the popularization of these shitty scam games makes me sad. Like it makes me feel guilty to even use the platform knowing people are so rightfully on edge about backing projects

[@SapoQLxd]

Temtem is doing great

[@nash3timemvp]

@@minuette1752 Dude the last big patch for Last Epoch was fucking amazing. the game is going in a good direction.

[@ugubu5359]

Y'all like Kingdom Come Deliverance?

[@TerkanTyr]

"never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, except for whenever it benefits somebody" asmongold's razor

[@sujimayne]

@J That's because you are an imbecile.

[@Naptosis]

Poor fellow won't need a razor soon enough. 🧑‍🦲

[@Preacher_.]

Aka, Activision's adding of a cash shop in Retail and TBC....

[@fappesaft1249]

@J There isn't even a scientific method of measuring "evil" so that statement is pure bullshit

[@druid_zephyrus]

@@Naptosis was looking for it, thanks for coming through :p

[@fadoxmeister1212]

I'm glad to have played MMO's in the 2000's. That made me learn the hard way what a scam is and how to avoid it for my adult life.

[@dongriffith2662]

This sounds like runescape taught you the same lessons it did me young in life 😂

[@Jacob-sb3su]

Runescape taught me more about finances and financial scams than any class ive taken, both highschool and college

[@SaltareObscurum]

Somebody remembers Ragnarok online? Damn old times 😂

[@NestedQuantifier]

@@dongriffith2662 Did you know that runescape hides your password when you type it out? Look. My password is **********.

[@ikikaera3402]

Hey follow me to the wilderness for free items everyone :)

[@Jeffrey_Tyler]

When Asmon is talking about "29 year olds that are as dumb as walruses" while the chat is spamming the exact same nonsense and bullshit that they are always spamming is just CHEFS KISS perfect. It's the tastiest of ironies.

[@naoko3749]

I promise you that probably at least half of Twitch chat is more intelligent and successful than you. Good chance they're all guys in IT making 6 figures, actually. No one takes it seriously. It's just that none of them are so insecure that they have to "flex" on internet strangers, like you're trying to do now.

[@Jeffrey_Tyler]

@@naoko3749 lmao cool

[@aethon0563]

@@naoko3749 r/whoosh

[@Froggeh92]

Twitch chat is just a bunch of memers. Its a bunch of 25 to 30 yr olds with jobs that need to meme sometimes :D its pure. Im studying to be a CHE PhD but i type KEKW 20 times a day

[@RagequitBM]

@@naoko3749 at least half sounds crazy generous. The majority of twitch chat is children. I'm sure theres a few really smart and succesful dudes in there though.

[@mac4491]

Asmongold nodding along to the description of being conned after he gets conned into paying to play each character in tbc because of nostalgia.

[@Bramandin]

This is a joke right? Genuine question.

[@Shellackle]

@@Bramandin I mean, there are multiple instances where asmon shits on Blizzard, the state of WoW, etc.. but at the same time keeps that subscription active and takes full advantage of numerous paid services, even ones he's directly spoken out against. That kinda makes all the takes he has about scams a li'l' sussy

[@matteoar]

thing about Asmongold is that he isn't getting conned. He's fully aware of the situation he's in. It's not being conned, it is being addicted.

[@Bramandin]

You people don't seem to understand how much money he makes from streaming. Why would loose face as the ultimate wow nerd by skipping on any however minor advantage, no matter how pricy it may be. Because for him, it's literally pocket change if that. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with what he's doing.

[@Shellackle]

@@matteoar If you can trick someone into being addicted, that's the same thing. WoW is a product made by a company for the purpose of making money. Once they reach a point with players that they can completely screw the game but know they'll still make money, you've been conned with very little you can do about it. He's conned by knowing what they're capable of versus what they're likely to produce for the foreseeable future. He's also conning himself into believing it'll get better.

[@Axelovskji]

josh: calling out scammers asmon: "if you wanna scam someone, do x"...

[@wolfen8622]

A “scam mmo” should be called “scamMO”

[@umadbroyo2388]

"I am driving" I AM DEAD!!!! xD

[@Ailwynn]

''I AM DEAD!!!! xD'' indeed that's what happens when you type while you drive! :D

[@umadbroyo2388]

@@Ailwynn makes sense :(

[@CainCorvinus]

The hidden wheel everyone overlooks with all these scams. Money laundering. What's the best way to legally give yourself money that you got illegally? Make a Kickstarter and fund it yourself.

[@karakter222]

How would you fund it yourself? Can you fund projects on Kickstarter in a completely anonimous way? Money laundering usually involves cash payment since it can't be associated with a person.

[@GlobstersMessenger]

@@karakter222 It's not about anonymous, it's about it being difficult to track exactly where the money has come from and gone to - money laundering doesn't have to be physical transactions that have no electronic signature, it just has to be easy to overlook and handwave away at a glance - by the time anyone actually investigates everyone and everything involved has had time to conceal themselves again, change identifying factors, remove evidence, transfer money to accounts that can't be reached etc. I can't explain the exact mechanisms because I'm no accountant or fraud investigator but crowdfunding has absolutely been used to launder money. Doesn't mean any of these scam MMOs are, but it's certainly been done.

[@orkinho1]

You can give your friends and relatives a 100 dollars and tell them to use them for the Kickstarter and voilá, clean money

[@Haxer19]

Charity is much more ez to use for money laundering

[@sujimayne]

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard and, no, it wouldn't work.

[@atlas874]

Life is an mmo. Play it like you’re trying to be a good player.

[@CunkGungler]

Wish I knew there were no alts before I rolled my goblin character...

[@K4LZ]

@@atlas874 I'm jewish also. Idk why I picked this char, seems like a disadvantage sadly.

[@gravint3294]

What if you wanna be a villain in an mmo? Jail?

[@BottledDelusion]

Everyone thinks I look like a ganker irl but I’ve never pvped anyone :( very rare I even do it in a game

[@dv2945]

It'd be more fun if it wasn't so rng reliant

[@wrightr]

It's so true man, so many of us MMO players are desperate to always find that perfect experience, or have that combo of things in an MMO we crave.

[@Dmytro_Kuts]

just find another game, stop talking like 79 yo old man

[@rossmore4682]

youre juknies, craving that initial high you once had when you first started playing.

[@DS-lq3dr]

I think MMO players are just trying to find real life - or at least a game that's as close to it as possible but that doesn't require them to actually do real life.

[@uncleruckkus6867]

People taking advantage of naive and stupid kids with their moms credit cards who want to be a part of a community. *looks at Asmon's chat*

[@kempolar9768]

It's hard to argue with that.

[@Narzick]

Chronicles of Elyria was pretty much the first "Nigerian prince" of the MMO Kickstarter world It seems, which is why they were able to raise such a massive amount of money, because people didn't know any better

[@gamesux420]

I have never even once in my live heard anyone liken scam-artists to these robin hood types that take "ill gotten money from rich people" let alone use that money for good. Not once.

[@starblaiz1986]

We have lived very different lives...

[@wheresmykeys]

He's more talking about how they view themselves

[@Italianchef26]

The thing about the dying game is so real, I don't know why but it just is and it's not only for MMOs. I remember back in in 2016-2017 I was playing a MOBA made by Epic Games called Paragon. In April 2018 the game was shut down due to a number of reasons. During the last months the developers were obviously struggling (fewer updates, fewer patches, less communications on their social media, less communication with youtubers that had followed the game since its inception) but people kept playing nonetheless. However, the very moment they announced the game was going to shut down in one month almost every player left immediately. It was almost surreal, a few days prior you'd be able to find games without any issue and the following week matchmaking queues were 3+ minutes long and you'd often match with the same people two or three times in a row. Only in the last day many players came back to play for the last time. It made no sense to me, after I heard the news I did the opposite, that month I tried playing every single day. I wanted to play as much as I could in the little time that was left.

[@zucrus]

Can we have Asmongold come back and react to this video after being tricked into buying New World?

[@LomanLawson]

holy shit, I haven't heard Star Citizen mentioned since 1993. It's still going? dang, going to blow us all away after 52 years of development and 2 trillion dollar budget.

[@Naptosis]

@@bane9951 yep, Chris Roberts is almost a boomer. A stinking rich boomerito now.

[@Eunjuls]

To be fair , when Face of mankind was still running, a majority of those claims were true

[@nGAGE0nline]

The worst part about this is; It's not exclusive to scammers. Much of this manipulation is common practice with actual publishers. Hense the rise of cash-shops and MEGA-transactions. Or delux editions and level boosts. :P

[@Dmytro_Kuts]

what’s sad, is how uneducated people are. Even in europe, where Internet ve been there for pretty long time, but people still prefer to learn the world around them through rumors, and “urban legends”. Just google reviews about project before putting money in it, jiz

[@nothanks1481]

all mmos are a joke in 2021 whether its a scum mmo or not. just wow clones from 2004 left and right instead of reinventing the wheel. the mmo formula is boring af and really behind when it comes to ai technology and systems we have now in singleplayer games for example.

[@Dayman87]

Walrusus are smart, just watch the documentary "The Walrus and The Carpenter"

[@blueberry5822]

Oh little oysters!

[@Vashy434]

Giving Josh Strife-Hayes his due spotlight. Dude is full of class.

[@MeIee]

Face of Mankind was one of the greatest games of all time. I only wish I had found it earlier before it went down. :(

[@kalasnokov]

iicr Furcadia is one of the first/oldest running MMOs in existance, went there once, found a golden toilet at the end of a rainbow and then found the entire userbase of five people huddled around a campfire, trying to ignore me so that i would go away. 10/10.

[@ninjaone1]

Fun fact about furcadia: it's user population has almost always been like 90% women. It's also not really an MMO, it's more like really old second life.

[@kalasnokov]

@@ninjaone1 Didn't know about that, didn't really experience much while visiting it other than exploring the barren wasteland that it is now. Though it is definetly an MMO, it even holds the world record for longest running MMORPG. Secondlife is one too, after all MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online, which fits the bill perfectly for either game.

[@SageOfHeaven]

His cup is a great relic of power. The Two-headed Eagle Of The Empire Of Man! One head looking to the future, one the past. Now lets see if there are any 40k knowers.

[@nicholasroach880]

We of the Farsight Enclaves have heeded the call.

[@aerialzdayo5869]

yo, that video from this dude is actually amazing, throwing him a sub right away

[@Khornecussion]

" You'll be called Executive Producer " in credits. Okay, but can you play the Curb Your Enthusiasm music over it?

[@Exdeathmore]

Every Asmon reaction video I've seen so far: Asmon: Mmhm, yeah, right, yep, uh-huh, yes. **pauses video** Asmon: **spits truth** **unpauses video** Asmon: Mmhm, yeah, right, yep, uh-huh, yes.

[@brentsta]

Walrus was close. The devs of these types of things call them "whales"

[@rogercruz1547]

Biggest scam in history? 1971 when the FED dropped the gold standard.

[@druid_zephyrus]

Best way to defeat scammers is to have zero money all the time. When the scammers come with their palm out. Turn out your pockets and show them how your situation is much more concerning than their scam. In the end, you may walk out with some money for lunch. If not, you were planning on going hungry anyways, so no new problems.

[@arcojin-carlosh.9435]

Barely watched the video. Just here to share some brazilian popular "wisdom" that fits the theme: "To end all scams, send all idiots to jail"

[@SuperSky9]

Or educate them to not be idiots? You see im not a fan of communism or socialism or using ad hominems to dehumanize people. If you're better then them, Help them!

[@outbreak3607]

@@SuperSky9 its too difficult to educate every single person you come across in your life, it's amazing how people want to be scammed here

[@SuperSky9]

@@outbreak3607 Not really, You just have to ask those people to question their beliefs on something they strongly believe in. If its false, it will fall apart. If its true it will grow.

[@Toastybees]

@@SuperSky9 It's not my job to educate people. You give them the information and what they do with it is up to them. Personal responsibility is a thing, no one should be obligated to babysit grown ass adults.

[@SuperSky9]

@@Toastybees You don't have to. You just have to make these people question their core believes and they will stop being idiots.

[@winds1010]

This guy is so handsome even im falling for him and im straight.

[@BANANA42k]

Not to mention that voice goddam

[@BANANA42k]

@Natty Sock imagine your heterosexuality being so fragile you cant even say a guy looks nice

[@winds1010]

@@BANANA42k Ikr lmao, people that call every little thing gay are probably just projecting their own fragile sexuality.

[@Zippism]

SOmeones really fragile.

[@orkinho1]

He kinda looks like Robb Stark from the hbo show

[@Itchy__]

my dad ordered like five board games from Kickstarter 5 years ago. Now four of them came, took about a 2 years for the fourth to finally come tho. However I see it as a mirracle that he got at least 4 out of 5 now

[@Draugo]

I tried once to clear Hall of the Grandmasters... I'm fine with never having a full atlas.

[@wolfy1987]

I love Kickstarter scam vids. Would happily watch any you put out

[@seankkg]

"Imagine subscribing to a game for 15 years when it started sucking 10 years ago." Done.

[@karrich1515]

the whole mentioning of scammers are now targeting kids with MMOs reminds me of the trend of making kid friendly MMOs like Wizard101 which main goals are too try and get kids to not just ask there parents too pay but also get them to a point where they will steal there credit cards to pay for the sub and micro transactions

[@SonyUSA]

Wow Furcadia is still around? I haven't pla...HEARD of it in forever! It's not a scam, it's basically 2D Second Life but it existed yeaaarrss before it.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

And not a single video was shown of Star Citizen, so.....that says something I guess?

[@outbreak3607]

Still a scam tho, what does it have to do with this video

[@Manlikepegasus]

asmongold you should try playing Warhammer online return of reckoning on stream. Free, and fun pvp mmo.

[@nuke2099]

He wouldn't like it because it's not WoW. It's also rather dated.

[@Mucknuggle]

Still younger than wow

[@obe22099]

The ad before this video was a crypto metaverse mech scam game. The way everything falls into place is magical.

[@JustSueMe]

Face of Mankind was an actual MMO though. It was pretty innovative even for today's standards.

[@doomdude3034]

6:45 A walrus would probably be harder to trick into doing something detrimental to it than a naive human. Animals are very keen with their instincts and especially wild animals only do things that directly benefit them (and their species).

[@zacflemo1994]

I cant wait for josh to do a warhammer online video, hes gonna love RoR, people who love pvp are missing out big time

[@steampunkpixie2643]

Something to note about Games Workshop is they used to be good, now their models from what I can tell are over priced for the quality you get.

[@orkinho1]

Games workshop models were pretty average back in the day when they were not as expensive. They are expensive as fuck now but the best selection both in individual and general quality you can find... and it’s a massive gap.

[@TheBrazilRules]

I "played" Furcadia before knowing what a furry was. It is like Habbo Hotel. Just virtual environments to chat with other people

[@tlru6504g4]

Star Citizen is better not a SCAMMO....I've bought 3 ships

[@StumbleBoy]

Face of Mankind was actually a game back in the day and had in my opinion one of the greater sandbox concepts. It was basically an anarchistic real world where you had a job and made relationships with other players and if you didn't, tough luck. You could go the bandit route, be policemen or military. Basically like GTA RP, but more advanced.

[@FamiAoi]

Of course Asmon slams on the brakes when he sees something for furries. I fucking knew it XD

[@greenghost2008]

I've played that mankind game. It is like someone started making an mmo and just gave up not even halfway through

[@orbitals5281]

Selling early access and not having free demos is what brought the scams.

[@mon0theist_tv]

"imagine subscribing to a game for 15 years when it stopped being good 10 years ago" lol

[@Random4Logic]

playing my first mmo showed me that by beeing naive you get scammed. glad i learned that lesson in a fuckin game and not real life xD MMOs are educational.

[@EduardoCadena1]

MMO development is disgusting nowadays.. what happened to the days MMOs were made FOR the players to be scammed BY the players as it is our god given right, and I'll be damned if I don't get to live another day to scam my community.

[@Joeyfield0]

5:45 Okay Asmon, you're at a 13, which is leaking into the curtains of Wow and Runescape, we're going to need to back to a 9

[@jirikrkoska1755]

Trick children to use their moms credit card?? Getting strong Jake Paul vibes here... I think you´ve really found the script :D

[@luridftwgaming8983]

Well, the people who are pretending to be a prince are also pretending that English is there a second language, so that’s another reason why they put spelling errors in grammar mistakes

[@fyrhtu81]

"If I finish the unreal engine video, 'Guys, I'm gonna make an MMO!.'" Watches FFXIV Ultimates guides and HEARS about Palace of the Dead. "Oh yeah, I'll have ultimates done by ENDWALKER, and the Necromancer title." 🤣🤣

[@GabrielGosselin]

« Half of this video will be me giving my own advice on how to scam people » -Asmongold 😂

[@CraftMine1000]

Asmons razor; don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity unless the entity is directly benefiting from the perceived stupidity

[@AgentMoray]

sounds like every kickstarter ever.

[@Darkvulpine]

ahhh Furcadia... I used to play on that long ago, but after they added the ERP section of it (aka: "FurN")... is when it went down hill...

[@Thagesthoughts]

Holy shit Furcadia is still a thing? I remember learning about that in the mid 2000s.

[@sciply]

Missed opportunity to call it ScaMMO

[@Peckh]

I actually played Face of Mankind, I have over a thousand hours on steam lmao. It was free to play with only pay for cosmetics It was actually a great mmo but it was basicly just a ported over 90's mmo. It did have a great system and working game though game shut down after a while. It was a real project though that existed and I dont think I could even consider it a scam since I litterally never paid money for it

[@talliyb]

Lol Furcadia was one of the first chat MMOs around. I'm surprised its still going!

[@MrGoofyGooberson]

Free armor trimming

[@jiriki1188]

Yeah, I fell for one of these scams. I paid for Shadowlands.

[@jessesutton7985]

These aren't just MMO problems. This is a problem all across the entertainment industry. From music to movies, to video games, to comics. You name it, it's being undermined. It does seem like it's reaching a point where its so blatant everywhere that people en masse are finally taking notice. Japan seems to have it's shit together somewhat, despite many westerners thinking they're weird. I think it's hilarious that people support the over sexualization pushed by the LGBT+++ in the west, then say Japan is perverted for having busty anime characters. Anime and manga are getting massive traction over here because it's more genuine entertainment. Same with FFXIV. It's a game made by people who want to make a fun game. The money part is how they fund their passion project. It's not the goal of the project, like you pointed out. You get the same vibe from manga and anime. Hollywood has totally lost that. Same with DC/Marvel. Same with game studios. That's why all the good stuff comes from indie groups.

[@miketike3246]

@22:52 - Wait, wtf? Why are you comparing Lord of the Rings Online's graphics to that scam piece of shit game??? LOTRO has way better graphics than you're giving it credit for. Hate to tell you this Asmongold, but LOTRO has better graphics than f'n WoW does. So I'm not sure where that remark came from.

[@xprincexofxsavagesx]

Nah, you don't want to scam kids. They're dumb but have limited income. You want to scam manchildren. They're dumber than kids, dumber than grandma. But think they're smarter than everyone else. And they love video games even more than kids. This makes them the perfect scam target. Let me present to you; the edgy asian pvp mmo. It's perfect. It keeps the kids away because they don't have attention spans for MMOs. This is necessary because manchildren will get immensely butthurt if an actual child beats him and may quit the game over it. The edginess grabs the typical manchild by his second chin and refuses to let go. Then the asian(specifically not anime though; because anime takes too much away from the edginess) aspect lures women in with a somewhat cutesy aesthetic which attracts more manchildren. Fortnite targets kids. MMOs target manchildren.

[@thescarecrow897]

After this video i just feel like becoming the next infamous scammer

[@jasonyum9137]

I thought this video was about blizzard, but realized small start ups are emulating blizzard

[@Hashquatch]

Another thing; kids don’t have liability. If the people scamming get the money from them and they’re under 18 there’s actually nothing that you can do, parents would have to report that the child stole the card and press charges to get money back. Whereas if a adult fell for a credit card scam they can call the company and have it investigated and they can get their money back that way. Kids using credit cards spend the most amount of money on stupid shit, so there’s ways to protect the credit card companies from people charging back things their kids bought.

[@drjohndee4322]

Aaahh the space marines that made me bust up laughing !

[@doomstadt2371]

Yanno, like how i got a "final notice" bill from a doctor I never went to for a Covid test I never took lol Apparently they're going for $50. I had to pay immediately of course so it didn't affect my credit. AKA - urgency, authenticity, panic, low price, and more panic. Right in the garbage.

[@neek01]

Asmon watching videos about scam MMOs while being oblivious to Ashes of Creation being just a bunch of unity store assets thrown together with almost nothing original shown so far. And there's also the fact that it's main investor ran a pyramid scheme before and their game studio intrepid Studios have 0 released games in 6 years. But nah keep hyping up the game boyyyys

[@Arkki11]

I wonder why those who spend craploads of money on games are called whales instead of cows, since cows get milked over and over again.

[@alidan]

for crypto, if I had some throw away money, Id put 10$ in them here and there, because what if it was the next bitcoin? many cryptos dip below a penny a coin but if they bounce up to even just 1 cent, you make several times what you put in, and realistically, 10$ is nothing to most people, hell many people play the lottery with worse odds and spend more.

[@ilikepizxa701]

A hat in time was a kickstarter at some point so anything is possible

[@mephisto40]

Y'all ain't gangster unless you have a screenshot of yourself playing Dragonspires

[@joaomendes8294]

What does it mean when someone says that "that guy is a whale?" or "mmorpgs players are whales" ( idk if thats the word cause i fucking suck at english). What does whales refer to exacly? Sorry for being kinda dumb in this department

[@MisterFl4sh]

I love watching these man. Not being here for every stream makes me feel i lose so much of those discussions but heh he'll keep posting that here. Thanks dude, dont want to miss any of these.

[@Rex73777]

Whenever I go shopping for a car I’ll bring along my mom and my dad. Mom runs deflection on the salesman. Well me and Dad are making sure it really doesn’t have frame damage. The plan is me and Dad never separate so the salesman can isolate us. And my mom takes up all of his time even though she’s not the one making a decision on whether or not we buy the car. Fool proof

[@yellowmellowxxx]

23:30 cant even lie to the camera has to look out the window xD

[@noobnoob4800]

baldy spends half of his entire savings on new scam mmorpg

[@Taintedmind]

I didn't know they use tells, such as awful grammar, to filter out the intelligent people; glad to know, since I was confused as to why they wouldn't want to make it a bit more professional to scam people

[@davewilliams5357]

i have stopped buying pre orders /founders packs despite what ever the y promise which now includes have cbt access look at lost ark they tried to add beta access and then gave out 15k keys when all the preorders dried up founder titles are not worth my time of effort

[@chrissre7935]

I will correct about the Nigerian scam use bad grammar. It's because language structure is different and when they use google translate and a lot is lost during translation. That is why they sound weird not because they do it intentionally.

[@JReeces]

The biggest scam that isn't shady is that Liquid Death drink. It's literally just water, and they even say its just water. But people buy it for the marketing.

[@doomdude3034]

Snake oil salesman is outdated, the new term is crowdfunded MMO creator.

[@Ikxi]

The whale video might be a cool one to watch next.

[@thren914]

Actually, Furcadia is a really old text based game thats been around for over 26 years now. I used to play it when it first came out and played it for years after. Its not as bad as it seems lol.

[@Ethan-fz6tp]

You were wrong about face of mankind as a whole, but that relaunch of it was nearly a scam. It's being remade by the players rn, it's called mankind reborn.

[@danteblack1141]

1:48 asmons great grandfather, lol i gotta say this is did play dream world on facebook (when i still logged in, lol), it was alright in the beginning but it quickly got boring