ASOIAF Theory 💀 The Greyscale Kings Under Winterfell - Part II: Stone Watchers

[@DavidLightbringer]

Hey Edric! Thanks for the shout out. I'm about 3/4 into part 2 here, and I'm enjoying you laying out this theory, but I just have to ask when you're going to address the issues with greyscale itself as an intentional device. So like, the issue of people going insane as the disease advances.. the stone men we see on the Bridge of Dream ain't fighting any white Walkers, ya know? I'm assuming you have an answer - perhaps the greyscale we see in Essos isn't the full ritual, or there's some other element missing - but I hadn't gotten to it yet and had to ask. Cheers brother and it's cool to see how much work you've put in making these!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Hey David! Thanks for watching mate! The series is going to be in 6 parts and the Greyscale content is spread out over the series as a whole In regards to Greyscale, I think that these Greenseer long night heroes that were sacrificed in front of the Weirwoods, could slip inside the trees while their corpse turned to stone In the same way we see one of our next long night heroes, Jon, residing inside Ghost while Shireens greyscale is foreshadowed to reawaken around his soon to be resurrected corpse This way the onset of the disease would not drive you insane while you reside in the Weirwood, and would create stone warriors completely sound of mind This could also give them the ability to return to the weirwood net after the war for the dawn has been won, so they can reawaken 8000 years in the future in a preserved stone body Essentially giving them the ability to more or less “travel through time”, which is why George is showing us Stone Men on the bridge of dream, which represents a weirwood, bypassing the laws of time as well Because if “time is like a river” and humans are trapped in its flow, maybe they became stone like their Weirwoods so the river of time does not move them either In fact its also interesting that the Weirwoods (trees that look like men) never die they just turn stone, as I think these long night heroes might have been Greenmen (men that look like trees), and never die but just turn to stone as well Which could be why no one sees the Order of the Green Men on the Isle of faces, maybe it’s because they are beneath the ground turned to stone to “keep their silent watch” like we see the Kings of Winter beneath Winterfell who are always noted as watching from their walls In short i think the spirits of the “order of green zombies” from your theory are still inside the weirwood net and are awaiting to return to their stone bodies buried beneath Winterfell, rising again “harder” and stronger to defend the realms of men I could be wrong but with all the evidence I’ve noticed I had to throw my hat in the ring and give back to this community that has given me so much over the years by making some theory content as well! Once again thank you so much for watching, it means the world to me mate Cheers 🍻

[@DavidLightbringer]

of course you'll probably be unsurpassed to hear me say I think the undead NW idea revolves around resurrection and wighting as opposed to greyscale or actual stone people, with the "stone people" symbolism referring to the wighting process

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah you could be right, I think the thing that sealed it for me is that every Azor Ahai parallel character has stone/hard symbolism - Berric is described as “standing so still he might have been carved of stone” beneath a Weirwood - Bloodraven is described beneath a weirwood as “some ghastly statue” - Stannis is said to have skin as hard as steel and is described as having a jaw “hard as stone” and is observed by Jon as “he is stone and she is flame” - Jon is around a reawakening Denise see that turns people to stone, is seen by Bran “growing cold and hard at the wall” and dreams of ending up down in the crypts - Even Danys Unsullied (the warriors of Azor Ahai) are described as “standing like statues”, and thought by Dany that “they could be made of brink themselves” as their “stoney eyes fixed straight ahead” - And the family of Waymar Royce with his one eye and broken sword, are said to have magical armour which made them invulnerable to damage, potentially making their skin hard like we hear of with Steelskin the pit fighter and the Ironborn who were protected by fell sorceries, the same people who “bless with stone” in a simulated resurrection ceremony Once again I could be wrong but I think it’s an Interesting theory around this amazing series and keeps us discussing these books we love so much

[@russwilliams4464]

If we believe that the original starks we’re giant, or larger than current men, then even a direwolf would seem only like a “dog” when accompanying the last hero.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Great point, hadn’t thought of that!

[@pushista9322]

I can't stop admiring your meticulous work with text! No wonder GRRM can't finish this gorgeous series. It has so many layers and threads to complete.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much! Yeah I can completely understand the difficulty of finishing the last two books, there are so many layers

[@SingingSealRiana]

its a blessing and a curse, people who shout he should just sit down and write it cant be that hard with the money he got really have no clue what they are talking about

[@russwilliams4464]

10 mins in to the video and it just gets better and better. So thorough. So convincingly we’ll evidenced. And so refreshing to see a theory where the theorist isn’t stretching and cherry picking only the supporting evidence and ignoring much to the contrary. Next 20 mins here I come! ❤

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much! Really appreciate it! Hopefully you enjoyed the rest too

[@luminousignesia372]

Ah shit mom wake up eldric stoneskin dropped

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Hahaha love this 😂

[@luminousignesia372]

@@eldric.stoneskin loving the series man very interesting topic and I'd love to see your thoughts on young griff and how that's gonna go down as well asoiaf is just so fun to think about and discuss

[@eldric.stoneskin]

It really is such an amazing series, young griff is interesting, what’s your thoughts on him?

[@luminousignesia372]

@@eldric.stoneskin well tbh I'm hoping young grif gets the iron throne from cersie and has to play the political game between his 2 big allies which I'm hoping will be Tyrell and the Martel's then we can see Margery vs Arianne political/sexual rivalry for young griff/iron throne

[@eldric.stoneskin]

@@luminousignesia372 Yeah I would agree with that, I can see Young Griff on the Iron throne by the time Dany gets to Westeroes, im still at a loss at what happens to Cersei after the throne is taken from the Lannisters though

[@KarlKarsnark]

Another EPIC! vid. May I post a link in the LML Livestream later tonight? Come on by, if you're still awake (6pm EST). Cheers!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

I’d love that Karl, thanks for your support mate! I might catch you there

[@VicLovin602]

Karsnark! I was hoping one of the mods would find and it and show Dave !

[@TheErikaGuy]

Just watched Part I….and here’s part two….here take this subscription 😤🙌🏾😩 you coming out hard lmaoo

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks! Appreciate the sub too

[@alexishenry4434]

I also immediately subscribed when I saw O2 was available

[@randominternetguyoffical]

This series gets more and more interesting the deeper you go. Great to see you put out part 2 so quick!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks RIG! Hoping to have one out on the 30th of each month in a series of 6 or 7, not sure how tinfoil I want to get by the end lol

[@randominternetguyoffical]

@Eldric Stoneskin i definitely think you should lay out as much as you have, like even if you caveat some of it by saying this is the pure speculation or whatever on parts where its tin

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah good idea man, I might try and round the tinfoil up to the last video and announce that as the plan, cheers mate

[@ginathedreamer5655]

The connections to the stone kings of winter seem so obvious when you put it like that lol. Another excellent expansion on the theory, great video!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@annmari5070]

I would love to see a video from you with Crowfood's daughter from The Disputed Lands. She has interesting ideas about ironborn, grey king, greyscale, resurrection etc.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

I would love to do something with Crowfoods Daughter, she has one of the best channels out there, I’ll be giving her a shout out in one of the later videos I’ll be doing on the ironborn as well

[@zoedickson8214]

part 4?! HELL YES

[@eldric.stoneskin]

The further I look the bigger it gets, thinking probably a 6 or 7 part series

[@zoedickson8214]

@@eldric.stoneskin wait really?! i can’t wait!! all i can say is the youtube algorithm brought me to your page and i’ve never been more satisfied from the suggestion of your part 1 video

[@eldric.stoneskin]

That’s amazing to hear! Thanks for the support

[@zoedickson8214]

@@eldric.stoneskin of course my guy, can’t wait to see more of your ASOIAF theories!!

[@chables74]

Algormancy!

[@anneconner1108]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 😱 Omg glob omg glob Just got way to excited to see this shit in my sub area. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉partyeffintime

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Hahaha hope you liked it!

[@Bluemilk92]

I feel like I've seen you in LmL's chat over the years. Fantastic stuff ser, I can't wait to see more.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah I have been for sure, he’s got a great channel and an great community, glad you liked the video!

[@leahlemieux]

Such excellent and thought-filled content! thank you so much. Looking forward to part 3.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much!

[@eldendad5743]

Criminally underviewed IMO. Great work

[@ATEAO]

This is some crazy stuff man, so good to hear some fresh theories, keep it up bro

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers man

[@brianmcfeeley9382]

Another amazing video my man can't wait for part 3

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Should be out around the 30th again I reckon

[@ohhhmindy4380]

Once again, PISSED. I should’ve seen this. 😂😂 Love your work. It’s so clear and well-executed.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Haha cheers!

[@myujmes]

I always thought "I am the watcher on the walls" was a very gargoyle thing to say so this tracks

[@IonIsFalling7217]

This, by the old gods and new, is the coolest theory with the best references I have yet seen.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Really appreciate that! Cheers 🍻

[@bichiAllen]

Already subscribed, can't wait for part 3

[@franckatuci4139]

Great video! Can't wait for the next one

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much!

[@Azaganna]

Bro your theories are so entertaining I got hyped when you hinted at this having two more parts. Can’t wait to listen to them all together. 🌟

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks! Yeah I’m thinking it’ll be a 6 part series and I’ll do a long form version of all of them together at the end

[@Azaganna]

@@eldric.stoneskin ahhhh yeah I’m damn sure gonna watch everything ❣️

[@LCommando19]

Listening to this got me through the end of my Saturday morning shift, can't wait to hear more.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Glad I could help out! More on the way soon…

[@RoisterDoister11]

So where do you think the extinct house of Greystark fits into this?

[@eldric.stoneskin]

I think they're there for us to connect house Stark with the colour Grey further, and to show that the original Starks became Grey Starks, I speak a little bit about house Greystark in part 1

[@TOKEK1ng]

I'm watching Part 1 and 2 back to back and gotta say that the intro music level is way better this time! Nice work. Could maybe go down a touch more but that could just be me being picky haha.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Haha cheers I’m still learning! Thinking I’ll drop it next time too, Im used to mixing music not videos sorry haha

[@TOKEK1ng]

@@eldric.stoneskin All up it was good stuff. Awesome theory, something I totally hadn't thought of. And amazingly researched!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

@@TOKEK1ng Thanks!

[@andygiob]

Another sick drop. Killing it Big El!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks mate!

[@VAL420]

Loving so far! I'm glad I'm not the only one focusing on a stone and Stark connection, though our approaches are very different. ♡

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers! I’d be interested to hear your thoughts? It’s a very clear connection

[@VAL420]

@Eldric Stoneskin I have some oral surgeries coming up but after I heal I plan on making videos. In the meantime, specifically I call mine the Flintstone theory or something along those lines. Via the Flint naming convention I happened on the uses of quartz of various kinds throughout the books, specifically the lines between Flints, Starks and Boltons. I theorize that these families originate from the same predecessor, the Knight King, as well of some others mentioned by Old Nan and that they originate from Skagos. There's some fun things regarding the Bloodstone (quartz) emporer and Amethyst (quartz) empress when talking about the shattered Flint (quartz) family lines. I hadn't quite gotten to greyscale as part of it but am enjoying where you pick up there.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah I definitely think the Bloodstone emperor is hinting towards what were suggesting, I've got him in part 6, your video sounds amazing, I've just subscribed, ill keep an eye out

[@strk350]

Dude.. keep them coming 🎉🤩💪

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Will do! Thanks for watchin!

[@DEANOpics]

Nice vid dude, keep em coming!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers, will do 🍻

[@alexishenry4434]

You came out swinging with these video essays

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@alexishenry4434]

@@eldric.stoneskin I look forward to the next one

[@russwilliams4464]

Giant = Bedwyck = Edryck = Eldric

[@eldric.stoneskin]

It is very similar isn’t it

[@tibbers5211]

Another banger! Great work and thanks for sharing your theories

[@eldric.stoneskin]

No worries! Glad you enjoyed it

[@leviathan8621]

These videos are so good man, super excited for the rest

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers mate

[@almab6875]

Loving your videos!!!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers 🍻

[@deckofcards5985]

Man, i love your theory .

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much!

[@Nightfort22]

Great video.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much!

[@Greenseeress710]

Loved this! Such a great new channel ❤❤❤

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it

[@theobastiaan5943]

Wonderful material right here. You made a connection between the nine weirwood trees in the grove beyond the Wall and the nine swords on the crown of the King of Winter. This made me wonder if it is in anyway related to the mansion of Khal Drogo in Pentos described as "...nine-towered manse of Khal Drogo sat beside the waters of the bay, its high brick walls overgrown with pale ivy." These walls overgrown with pale ivy makes me think off a wintery wall. In the same scene Illyrio further states that "The Lord of Light would hold our city walls against a million Dothraki, or so the red priests promise." Maybe I want to see things here but all this almost sounds like a parallel to the Wall which now also has a red priest. The Dothraki parallel the Wildlings because they get a place to live behind the wall. Another nine reference in the books is when Tyrion sees nine Dornish banners come out of the woods moving through a landscape of blackend trees.

[@joelsmith6250]

My god what a dreamy voice you have eldric xx love the content 😍

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Haha thanks mate

[@wickedskittle9917]

🤯🤯 loving this series

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks! Interested to hear your thoughts at the of the series!

[@wickedskittle9917]

@@eldric.stoneskin will do!

[@SSolemn]

I love the content, but just like in the first part, the music is too loud in the intro. thanks for sharig

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks, ill turn down again for the next one

[@Infaziation]

You should add book and chapter indicators when you show quotes!

[@chadbailey3623]

Not sold yet, but you got me interested!

[@kraftmayo]

Hahaha i just started doing research into this and now i found your channel lol 😊

[@eldric.stoneskin]

There ya go! Glad you found the channel!

[@kraftmayo]

@Eldric Stoneskin what inspired you to make this channel 3 years after it ended? Lol I wish they could make movies of the big events from the past

[@eldric.stoneskin]

After the HBO show ended? I’m more of a book canon person and the books haven’t ended yet, but I think i know how part of the ending will play out and wanted to share it with everyone

[@BeteBlanc]

This is absolutely fascinating and I think gives an important insight into Bran's Weirwood paste vision. This is totally the missing piece to understanding the the Long Night and the fall of the Dawn Empire. Coupled with the murder of Renly I totally get it now. In the Tolkien sense the Starks would been cast in the visual not moral context of the Orcs. In a more European sense you could consider them more like how Disney gargoyles function. In sunlight they turn to stone. But during a Long Night they sun is gone so they can't be turned to stone. The blood betrayal isn't between the siblings, it was the Amethyst killing her father (Stannis' blood betrayal of Renly). The Bloodstone is about the creation of Night Watch, where they sacrificed themselves to become stone.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Exactly right, I think the Bloodstone Emporer is a big hint towards this premise, spilling blood to turn to stone potentially?

[@BeteBlanc]

I've been peddling a theory for a long time that few seem to like. But I'll run it past you to see what you think. It's part of a larger theory, but I'll focus on the Bloodstone. What is a bloodstone? It's green with red. I don't think it's literal, but symbolic, of a bond/pact. The very basic way to connect it to actual eyes is not as their colour, but what they see. So start with a greenseer. He took a tiger wife. So he married something red. So what we have is a Weirwood. Green eyes through red eyes. A greenseer married to a weirwood, very simply, Bran. Bloodstone is also the founder of CoSW. How does that connect? Aside from Arya noting the priests singing to the stars, we have the direwolves who also sing to the stars. One thing I want to point out, because you've used the phrase "where winter fell." The word "fell" can alternately mean a high hill or a group of trees. In the sense of the former, this could relate to a barrow, so it may relate to the crypts themselves. In the case of the later it would relate to the godswood, as in the Fell of the King of Winter. As the two are connected as you are showing, it might be considered to mean both at the same time. While general considered to relate to the castle, I believe the name Winterfell originally referred specifically to the godswood it protects, the Winter Fell. I kinda want to make a point about the name Winter itself, but I don't want to tick you off. I will simply write it as Win Ter as see if you can see it. Remember, the hero was known alternately as Eldrick, Hyrkoon, and Yin Tar. These are not assumed to be different names by historians in world.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Wow yeah that makes a lot of sense, I never made the connection of Yin Tar & Win Ter that’s actually quite good, the colours of bloodstone being green and red like the eyes is a amazing as well, all great connections, well done!

[@ThatLadyBird]

Notice how, at the end of S8 GOT intro sequence, it shows the Winterfell wierwood tree, then turns around and goes straight down into the crypts for a few secs before it ends. I dont think the intro sequence symbolism is taken lightly on the show, in fact, Im sure GRRM had a big say in it. Likely the crypts of winterfell (or whats in them) will be pivotal in the conclusion of ASOIAF series. Great channel.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks! Yeah I agree they’re very pivotal in the story, was hoping for these kings of winter rising in the HBO series but I think stone kings rising from the crypts might have been a bit too high fantasy for Dan and Dave 😂

[@Ryngs08]

Another thought to consider on the Maynard Plumm symbolism. Plums are a “stone fruit”

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Excellent point! Great comment!

[@jacobsquare4812]

9 Weirwoods feels like a Tolkein nod in this case. 9 rings for men, doomed to die, while the men go on to become "immortal" wraiths.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah I think he’s drawing on that as well, 9 Weirwoods, 9 spikes on the crown of winter, feels like a nod to the Nazgûl for sure

[@lanananans]

Thanks youtube finally giving me a good video and channel suggestion

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Glad you liked it!

[@lanananans]

@@eldric.stoneskin yess

[@pushista9322]

Which accent do you have? It suits this story so much

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Cheers, Ive got an Australian accent

[@Loreweavver]

One doesn't put a disease like greyscale in the book unless one plans to use it. I had previously thought it would be the solution to the undead problem as if the living become stone the corpses can't move. I've got to say though that you're making good points. Do you have thoughts on the Deep Ones or the oily black rocks? That's the other loose end, imo. Not sure if those references are just Lovecraftian Easter Eggs or more Chekhov guns.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah the deep ones and the oily black stone are a huge mystery, I’m not entirely sure but I’ve wondered if squishers are just memories of people who would skinchange sea creatures, in the same way the Starks are remembered as wolf people not because they are half man half wolf, but because they have a skin changing bond with said animal, if we see literal half human half fish creatures I’ll be very surprised

[@gerardjagroo]

​@@eldric.stoneskinBut what about the reptilian webbing between the fingers of the Sistermen. The Sisters read as Innsmouth from Lovecraft's Shadow over Innsmouth where a bunch of people mate with the Deep Ones in exchange for fish and Mystery Metal I _do_ think that the Deep Ones exist in this world along with the Elder Gods that might be the 'Old' Gods. However, I don't think they will be vital to the story but just on the fringe of what is known. They will always be there and there will be crazy people trying to awaken them, however I think most of the story will not involve them. Theon's arc may lead him to delve in the mysteries of the Deep Ones and I think he may end up a Grey King figure, counterpart to All-Seeing Greenseer King Bran.

[@alexmoes3225]

Bonza

[@russwilliams4464]

Horn of winter is said to bring down the wall - maybe not THE Wall, but the wall of rubble of the collapsed crypts - check this : “Tormund: Would that I had the Horn of Joramun. I'd give it a nice toot and we'd climb through the rubble. Jon: Melisandre burned the Horn of Joramun. Tormund: Did she? She burned that fine big horn, aye. A bloody sin, I call it. A thousand years old, that was. We found it in a giant's grave, and no man o' us had ever seen a horn so big. “

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yes! You got it! That’s what I’m thinking too, I’ll get into this in part 4, well done

[@marcmartial1221]

So my own theory is that most of the ancient castles in Westeros (Winterfell, Storm's End etc.) are actually weirwood trees. That is, tthere's a weirwood tree at the base of each of these structures, that has the ability to transform into stone, and then grow into whatever piece of architecture it wishes to become. And being absorbed by one such weirwood turns the sacrificied person into a stone statue. Similarly, the Wall is just the Black Gate (i.e. the weirwood tree beneath the Nightfort) magically turning into ice. This would explain the legend of the seventy-nine sentinels, who were probably sacrificied in front the weirwood mouth, and absorbed by it afterwards. So I believe that weirwoods have the ability to grow into stone, as well as into ice. There's plenty of evidence supporting this theory, which I won't list in a YT comment , but just think about it while re-reading the books. I believe my theory explains quite a few mysteries in the story.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Interesting theory! I have wondered if the sacrificed person becomes stone once they sit beneath the weirwood, with the weirwood roots going through them and making them stone as well

[@marcmartial1221]

@@eldric.stoneskin Blood seems to be the key. When Varamyr is absorbed by the ww net, he is bleeding profusely from his wounds. Also the execution/sacrifice witnessed by Bran during his vision involves blood as well. But even the wildlings seem to have forgotten how this all works, since they are now apparently just putting bones and charred remains inside the mouths of the weiwoods, and Varamyr is utterly surprised when his consciousness becomes one with the ww net. I'm guessing it had to be a well-kept secret, known only by the lords of Winterfell - and a few others. But the process is mysterious, so bones could be sufficient to perform this absorption ritual, idk. One interesting thing is that Lady Dustin asks Theon to lead her into the crypts, apparently just to take a look at Ned's statue. That's weird. My guess is that she wanted to make sure that it is indeed a carved statue, and not an extension of the weirwood at the bottom of the crypts. So she is now fully certain that no burial/absorption ritual involving Ned was performed at Winterfell. By the way, is it a coincidence that the seventy-nine sentinels fled to the Barrowlands before being sent back to the Wall by the then Lord Dustin - to be absorbed by the Wall? I'm pretty sure that the Lords of Barrowton, who rule over the "land of the dead", have extensive knowledge of funeral and burial rituals...

[@jenniferpearce1052]

What about the Stone Crows? Stone. Crows. What's their origin story?

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yeah I speak about the stone crows at the end, I’m not exactly sure on their origins, I’ll have to look through the world book again to see if it mentions anything about their formation

[@jenniferpearce1052]

@@eldric.stoneskin I never thought this deeply about these books until I found all the youtubers!

[@eldric.stoneskin]

@Jennifer Pearce the books do go way deeper than first meets the eye, if your looking for some other KZbinrs to watch I’d suggest The Disputed Lands and David Lightbringer, both excellent channels that like mine also show how deep George’s writing goes

[@jenniferpearce1052]

@@eldric.stoneskin I've listened to some David Lightbringer. I really like In Deep Geek too.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yes IDG is fantastic as well! His Roberts Rebellion playlist is amazing

[@myujmes]

Great series but so far I don't yet believe ancient starks were giants, maybe big men but not actually apart of the giant species. The line about the stark stone kings looking down while seated doesn't necessarily mean the stone figures are larger than life, they could just be on an elevated platform, or if the statues are truly big, that it doesn't reflect the actual size of the people they represent.

[@myujmes]

the only evidence I can think of is Hodor having implied giant heritage, but he's not a stark exactly. although, maybe old nan related to the starks? i cant recall but i dont think so

[@eldric.stoneskin]

I don’t think the ancient Starks were giants I just think they were very tall men, remembered as Giant in size I’d say, we hear from Aeron Greyjoy that “men have grown smaller now” which might hint at them having been just taller men, the way hodor is thought of as a giant in a way

[@VANIT_E]

... Except Bloodraven is a Targaryen.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Yes he is

[@VANIT_E]

@@eldric.stoneskin I just don't understand the connections you're making. You had me in the beginning, sure enough. Pointing out the references to Starks and stone. But what's Bloodraven got to do with the crypts of Winterfell? What's Stannis got to do with the crypts of Winterfell? Because he was described as being a "hard man"? ... Ser Malcolm was described as a "hard man" as well. Do you remember him? No, because he was a nothing character only mentioned once when an innkeeper was telling Yoren the story of how his brother was sent to the Wall. See what I'm saying? There's no connection. Bloodraven's a Targaryen whose only connection to the Starks is Bran. Stannis' connection is Jon. But neither have anything to do with these Grayscale Kings you speak of. Or Winterfell's dead.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

George is using all those characters to give us clues of who Azor Ahai was, Jon is the next Azor ahai and he’s half first man and half Targaryen, like Bloodraven is half first man and half Targaryen, bloodraven sits a throne under a weirwood and is described as a ghastly statue, just like Jon dreams of ending up sitting a throne beneath a weirwood, they both show one eye symbolism too which George is using to hint that these are parallel characters and not every character he describes as hard is meant to foreshadow them as made of stone, but when they’re seated beneath Weirwoods, described as a statue, have one eye like the stone king Jonel One eye and are associated with ending the long night, George is definetly using Bloodraven as a character to foreshadow the kings of winter, who are statues seated beneath a Weirwood and were concerned with ending the long night

[@ofirmichael66]

Ebben - Stone in Hebrew

[@eldric.stoneskin]

That’s amazing! Ebben is described as “muscled like a bag of rocks” too which adds to the stone nights watchman idea! Great comment!

[@pdenny6326]

I think this is one of the worst theories about ASOIAF there is.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks for the view

[@Astromamut]

This is the worst asoiaf theory video I ever watched. Because of it, I want to quit writing fiction, to avoid the risk of YOU analyzing my books. I hope I never see any of your videos ever again.

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Thanks for the view!

[@Astromamut]

@@eldric.stoneskin I watched the whole video, including ads if there were any 😘

[@eldric.stoneskin]

Haha cheers