Assassin's Creed Mirage | Lore Breakdown/Ending Explained

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Walshie

Walshie

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This video is meant as an "Ending Explained" for Assassin's Creed Mirage; I mean to explore Roshan's decision, Loki's memories/Nehal, and the Alamut Vault.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:33 - Basim's Identity/Nehal
07:29 - Alamut Vault and its Contents
10:56 - Roshan - Outro
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@uppin_downers
@uppin_downers 8 ай бұрын
the clarification that Basim still makes his own choices and memories is honestly relieving cus i love that character
@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976 8 ай бұрын
That's how it's always been with Sages, even the Aita ones. All Sages are capable of making their own choices, the memores of the Isu do affect them, but only slightly.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
That's how Sages have always been; They're fully capable of making their own choices and have their own memories in tandem with that of the Isu memories. Whether those choices are actually good or not is it's own can of worms.
@jaloniwilson
@jaloniwilson 8 ай бұрын
It's better for people to not think of it as an Isu taking over someone's body or two souls merging. It's more like one human body with two sets of genetic memories. Basim still has all of his feelings and convictions but he also has Loki's too. He genuinely has them and feels deeply convicted about both of those goals and feelings. When eivor speaks to Odin in valhalla, that's just more of a physical representation of the internal dialogue that eivor(that human body) is having with herself. Wrestling between what she cares about and the memories that she doesn't remember but actually does remember fully and vividly along with any emotion attached to it.
@mrenigma1564
@mrenigma1564 8 ай бұрын
​@@tronarclight2976more like thats how reincarnation works It makes you just remember who you actually are You choose to embrace it or ignore it But by ignoring it you will not become whole
@m3rl1on
@m3rl1on 8 ай бұрын
you can see the difference between bartholomew roberts and germain for example. both are sages of aita, but has way different personality, Germain is calmer and calculating, while Roberts is batshit crazy lmao @@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976 8 ай бұрын
I loved how Basim and Loki's mental conflict was portrayed in Mirage. I loved the Sages as a concept and Mirage has my favorite interpretation of it. The reason that the memory manifestation is portrayed as a person is that in AC, memories are the core of all we do. As Clay (Subject 16) said before he died in Revelations; "What is a man but the sum of his memories?!?!?!"
@chrisgutte4
@chrisgutte4 8 ай бұрын
I think that theme of "being reborn" is so interesting. It seems to be a "ship of theseus" dilemma. I mean, the Isu-DNA in Basim (or Eivor etc.) doesn't carry an actual consciousness, just memories. So Basims consciousness is different from Lokis, yet Lokis memories can shape Basims consciousness to resemble his. So this isn't the original Loki, but someone who resembles Loki. Is that still a rebirth?
@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976 8 ай бұрын
@@chrisgutte4 It depends on how one considers "being alive" or "rebirth", does having all the memories of a person instantly make you that person, or is it something else? I think that's an intentional vagueness in how the Sages are portrayed; we aren't meant to know if they TRULY are reborn or is it something so close that it can be considered rebirth.
@mariussin1298
@mariussin1298 8 ай бұрын
I think that Basim doesn't "become" Loki because he has memories and experiences of his own. For me, the Basim at the end of Mirage feels like a new person, different from the initial Basim and Loki, who is modeled and defined by both but never only one of them alone
@chrisgutte4
@chrisgutte4 8 ай бұрын
@@tronarclight2976 yeah I agree. Just makes you think what the Isu actually tried to achieve, when their consciousness doesn't survive. (on a sidenote: just playing Cyberpunk again and it's basically the same thing with Johnny Silverhands construct, right?)
@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976 7 ай бұрын
@@chrisgutte4 Not exactly, Silverhand's construct was him being able to keep his ENTIRE personality in digital form, the Isu and their use of Yggdrasil was simple passing on ALL of the MEMORIES of the Isu into people. This is because they believe a person's entire being is based on their memories. Silverhand was able to literally keep his entire mind digitized, however it is close enough.
@IcoSonic91
@IcoSonic91 8 ай бұрын
Since the Valhalla days i've always been Strongly against the interpretation that Basim was just the reincarnation of Loki and i'm glad that Mirage heavily implied that Basim is indeed his own character and that Loki is just a part of him. The people that were saying that were truly just trying to downplay what is one of the most interesting AC characters. Period.
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
Right, it's always a shame to see "Basim is Loki" written in response to players curious about Basim and his layered motivations. It's annoying, not only because it ignores the greater, conscious half of a fantastic character, but because it implicitly denies depth in the other half of the character - "Oh yeah, Basim acts that way because he's Loki, y'know, a trickster!". It can be annoying when Assassin's Creed actually cooks for once and a large number of fans just don't really care to look.
@jaloniwilson
@jaloniwilson 8 ай бұрын
​​@@WalshieYT1yes like this human body that we see in Mirage is both basim and Loki. One vessel(human body) with two sets of genetic memories. No ones mind is taking over another. This body feels the full conviction and emotion of both set of memories. Any decision that this person would make going forward is informed by and is in harmony with their memories and convictions.
@protectbabysif
@protectbabysif 8 ай бұрын
It's such an incredible ending honestly. The djinn itself being a symbolism of torture is such a raw idea and I'm so glad they didn't go with the usual thing everyone was expecting as this was a much cooler route. And I kind of can't believe I called the Loki Nehal thing - but it makes perfect sense and their merging together at the end to fully unlock his past memories and when he steps out of the cave and you can hear the inflection of his voice immediately shift into something darker - man. Was a such a solid transition and they nailed it. Not actually using the name "Loki" and just treating players like they already had the knowledge to understand what was going on was really appreciative too.
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
Lol, your theory was in my head from the getgo, and I think I was completely certain of it before Basim had even left Anbar. I don't know how predictable it would've been otherwise. The streets (r/ac) are saying it was pretty blatant, but I don't think that's too much of a drawback. By the time that you're entering the vault, there is a sense of "come on man, the truth is right in front of your eyes", and it is! I think Nehal even says as much. But I think that the mounting obviousness of Nehal's nature only lends to the catharsis in Basim's whole "awakening". Basim's evolution was handled so well. Like you said, Majdoub really had his finger on Basim's arc and how to inject that familiar darkness. When Basim's intentionally brightening his voice to play the part of a Eunuch, I realised just how much his performance had changed. His abrupt switch to a more intimidating delivery when he's attempting to manipulate Makira just felt so right, and really punctuated just how much this character had actually changed. Although I've certainly got my issues with the story, I really like how Basim was handled. I had a fair few doubts.
@protectbabysif
@protectbabysif 8 ай бұрын
@@WalshieYT1 Most of my issues with the story are honestly just with wasted potential. Not enough time delving into the Order and character relationships to really make the ending hit even harder, and the pacing can be so breakneck. A more linear story involving less characters could have fixed this and made it even better, but I am glad there's at least nothing I thought was outright handled poorly and the ideas explored here are still worthy of being analyzed
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
@protectbabysif 100%. The non-chronological midgame might actually be the worst remnant of Ori-Val DNA in the game. The lack of commitment to any significant investigation-to-investigation change in Basim really deflates the goings on of every assassination, and the climax of his arc (to a lesser extent). What's frustrating is that each arc cuts the shape of something far more intriguing and conflict-generating than what we actually see. None of the bureau leaders really influence the investigations they preside over, when the opportunities for conflict-generation are in your face; Rebekah, Basim's peer and friend, could find herself jealous of Basim's rising status, and neglectful of important details in the investigation, causing unforseen problems later on; Fuladh, a senior Assassin who sees the future in Basim, is a prime candidate to challenge Basim's loyalties - because in this section of the game, we're told that Basim needs to ground himself and kill his past, but given no reason to believe that he'd do anything else. With the very structure of the second act being so conflict-averse, I do wonder if Beaulieu and the team were steered in the direction of non-linearity. I'm kinda baffled by it, to be honest.
@MrHazz111
@MrHazz111 8 ай бұрын
On Basim's imprisonment- In Norse mythology, Loki is captured by Odin and the other gods after they learn that he killed Baldur, Odin's son. He is then imprisoned in a cave, with a snake's venom dripping down his face as one of his wives holds up a bowl to stop the poison reaching his face. In the Dawn of Ragnarok DLC, we learn that in AC lore, Loki is imprisoned for abducting Baldur and sending him to Sutr the fire giant as a hostage. Ultimately, Loki is said to escape only on the eve of Ragnarok, where he will lead the armies against the gods in the final battle. In the AC universe, I can imagine the Isu Loki went through years of torture in what will become Alamut, only to escape and execute his plan as seen in Valhalla's 'truth' sequence, and dies immediately after that in the Toba catastrophe, so when he is reborn, it makes sense that his reincarnation carries the trauma of captivity in his 9th century self as Basim and the Djinni.
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
I had no idea! By chance, do you remember where in DoR Loki's imprisonment is exposited? That one completely slipped me by. Knowing Darby McDevitt's history, you are right - the Truth segment will have been written in adherence to Norse mythology. My initial doubt that Odin was the torturer stemmed from the omission of the torture in Valhalla. It seemed a strange choice not to include this event that would surely lend to further depth; would the inclusion of the torture imply that selfish, vengeful motivations fuelled Basim's (fairly noble) quest, distracting from core narrative ideas? Would it have made Eivor and/or Odin too difficult to sympathise with? Does Basim even know who tortured him? The context definitely makes a replay of Valhalla more interesting. Thank you for the comment.
@kevinhewston5621
@kevinhewston5621 8 ай бұрын
I love how you include the scene that Basim was the one to stab the Caliphate, too, after “Nehal” did it. I had this question I commented to you in another video, and you answered it in your inclusion of this cutscene from the game! Thank you for being responsive to fans and for answering my question!
@stevenh4669
@stevenh4669 8 ай бұрын
Always love when a new AC comes in and the AC channels start analyzing the lore. Great observations, just finished the game and you made me relive it more clearly. Will give it a 2nd playthrough after Alan Wake 2
@JUANZZIEGAME
@JUANZZIEGAME 8 ай бұрын
This is the best video of lore I have seen in months!!! Thanks for that, for sure after playing all the ac games, this is one that you can't miss
@R0N1N___
@R0N1N___ 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting, love the memory seals!
@salmankhan2739
@salmankhan2739 8 ай бұрын
Amazing lore and ending breakdown! Really well explained! God I love Mirage and Basim so much!
@grapes9h5
@grapes9h5 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!! I never read Crusade so I had no idea about that connection!!!
@aurawolf2221
@aurawolf2221 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video & very well explained! The Writers of Mirage truly understood what old school fans want to see... & they linked Alumut FLAWLESSLY to the newer lore introduced! The plot hole I initially thought was there was because I missed the seals bur knowing they're there puts me at ease! I'm curious... what were your thoughts on the ending?
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! My thoughts on the ending are mixed, but definitely skewing more toward positive than negative. I was concerned that Mirage was treading very delicate ground with Basim's backstory and that a wrong turn or reference could recontextualise Valhalla in a negative way. But, I don't think the game actually made any wrong turns - it's strongest moments actually deepen Valhalla, which is really cool. My more negative thoughts - like most of problems with the game, honestly - come from a want for more. The game's non-chronological midsection feels completely resistant to character progression. Because each series of investigations is predetermined and Basim cannot have changed much from assassination to assassination, the game sets Basim at a standstill. Because the game doesn't want to conflict Basim so much that he may change, the second act falls flat; this is our protagonist's test, and we're told as much! Despite Basim being told to remember his allegiances and stay true to himself etc. etc., this can never truly be tested because of the game's structure. Basim's final commitment would've resonated with me much more had Basim's arc felt more "bumpy", I guess. That's just my biggest problem with the game, though. I did like it, all in all.
@aurawolf2221
@aurawolf2221 8 ай бұрын
@@WalshieYT1 all very valid points & I suppose that's the issue with making a prequel, I mean... I respect that they DIDN'T mess up what we knew of Basim from Valhalla & hell Mirage even made me like him more than I did initially but... my main issue with the ending was Valhalla itself, we knew how it HAD to end & as a result we haven't exactly... moved forward. That's just me though, I still really enjoyed the game & seeing Alamut brought a tear to my eye as a lifelong Altair Stan 🤣
@grapes9h5
@grapes9h5 8 ай бұрын
@@WalshieYT1totally agree
@lovely1762
@lovely1762 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down I really appreciate it.
@misterw591
@misterw591 8 ай бұрын
1. DLCs continuing Basims story (Loki) 2. Roshan origin DLC like the original AC Mirage was suppose to be for Valhalla but shorter. 3. DLC for what happened to Roshan after she left the Hidden Ones. 4. DLC of Roshan on how she made it to Jerusalem, giving us the origin of the first Assassins Creed game.
@shannon6695
@shannon6695 8 ай бұрын
I'm hoping for a DLC, or standalone game with the same length as Mirage, of Basim and Hytham going to 9th century Constantinople and meeting Sigurd. They could make some connections with Assassin's Creed Revelations.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@shannon6695 They'd have to be pretty loose connections, then; By the time of Brotherhood alone, Constantinople was already gone, and it was even more gone by the time of Revelations. (The city was literally pounded into rubble in the 1450's.) On the other hand, 9th Century Byzantine Empire would be pretty cool to explore, and it would also be interesting regarding the Order of the Ancients being there since the Byzantines were a complete powerhouse of a nation at the time. Only time will tell for what comes next.
@voidoflife7058
@voidoflife7058 8 ай бұрын
You’re not getting any of this lol
@misterw591
@misterw591 8 ай бұрын
@@voidoflife7058I didn’t say I was. Stop being an arrogant hater. You also have no facts in your comment
@bigbooger938
@bigbooger938 8 ай бұрын
@@voidoflife7058prick
@thefalseflagshow
@thefalseflagshow 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful video and explanation thank you
@bigjuciy-jr3bf
@bigjuciy-jr3bf 8 ай бұрын
Yeah happy to know that basim is still there and that he agree with his path
@janosnagy3661
@janosnagy3661 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Al sila ( the woman who roshan kills in Valhalla) is definitely Makira in Mirage.
@salmankhan2739
@salmankhan2739 8 ай бұрын
if thats true then that makes me so happy! God I hated that woman and that we didn't kill her ass.
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
Now THIS is interesting. With her fanatical Qabiha-obsession, it wouldn't be out of the question for Makira to follow in her footsteps, or even to try and become Qabiha.
@uppin_downers
@uppin_downers 8 ай бұрын
@@WalshieYT1yeah i was thinking that too cus after you find out makira poisons one of the girls and plots some stuff i think Basim calls her “al sila” tbh but i need to check a video back to that quest to be certain💀
@uppin_downers
@uppin_downers 8 ай бұрын
@@WalshieYT1yeah basim says “ya si’la” which means treacherous hag. uh…. cool order and mysterious order name makira 😭
@Noctuam734
@Noctuam734 8 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY missed that, holy shit
@HookahDoncic98
@HookahDoncic98 8 ай бұрын
My new favorite AC. Has such a rich story with a pure lesson behind it
@jholla
@jholla 4 ай бұрын
this made me understand a bit more. thanks!
@glibchubik4090
@glibchubik4090 8 ай бұрын
A great, comprehensive analysis! Even my "havent played since Unity" ignorant ass could understand the plot, that is definitely a compliment to you. I'm kinda interested in playing Valhalla now
@codytarman5971
@codytarman5971 8 ай бұрын
one thing remains that keeps sticking in my head is the possibility that Basim and Altair are related it fills a lot of gaps and fits to well for it not to be possible. the fact that sages have the highest concentration of isu DNA and the fact that Baism is in the nearest proximtier to altair only a few hundred years apart and Mirage leaves a big epic question mark on that.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 ай бұрын
Odin was a crazy yelling old man. Loki is smooth and persuasive. No surprise Basim accepted the merge
@yourmother9747
@yourmother9747 8 ай бұрын
The twist worked for me because I chalked up nehal always being around and her weird quirks to be bad writing, very glad I was mistaken and it definetly added to the reveal
@cbhat5
@cbhat5 Ай бұрын
I remember a scene in Mirage where Basim goes to the assistant of a scholar who asks him what books him and his friend Nehal used to read in childhood after sneaking into libraries to which he says he used to read stories of culture and his friend Nehal was more into Pagan culture. A very nice Easter egg thingy.
@ABDILLASOUR
@ABDILLASOUR 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoy the complexity of Roshans character and motives.
@Luger0312
@Luger0312 7 ай бұрын
Now, Loki being Loki, it makes so much sense his consciousness would be represented by Nehal. Because the moment Basim realises that Nehal was never a real person, he has the choice to either embrace that consciousness as part of himself, or lose Nehal completely forever, which he would never want to. Gives him an even stronger incentive to embrace his "second me".
@OJSenpai124
@OJSenpai124 8 ай бұрын
Remember that in the animus anomalies, Loki kills Odin’s son (an Isu who may represent Baldur given that Loki kills that Isu with mistletoe) sometime after fenrir’s imprisonment but before the toba catastrophe. While the torturer is never confirmed to be Odin it would make more sense for it to be him than to introduce another character we haven’t seen before. Ofc I could be wrong but I’m willing to bet I’m not. The anomalies also state that Loki and Alethia got captured by soldiers, the implication being that Odin may have found out who killed Baldur. Stuff to keep in mind. Yes Odin originally did all that he did for self interest but with baldur’s death he would become relentless in hunting down Loki.
@danzetterstrom7917
@danzetterstrom7917 8 ай бұрын
I think the torturer is possibly Milad, the owner of the armour we find in the Isu cache at the Northern Oasis. The dagger you find there looks very similar to the one we see the hologram use. Could just be reusing models but still something to think on.
@kurhanchyk
@kurhanchyk 8 ай бұрын
the story feels great with all the lore background, if only the lore was a bit more accessible
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
I definitely get that feeling. I'm very interested in how the story plays without the context of Valhalla.
@hisword8531
@hisword8531 8 ай бұрын
​@@WalshieYT1I came into the game knowing Basim was a sage using the animus but that was the extent of context I had from Valhalla. I watched the ending on youtube a while ago. I thought the game was great, but was looking forward to some modern day dialogue at least.
@bilalitani803
@bilalitani803 7 ай бұрын
This is The BEST theory out there. Basim in mirage is taught that such great knowledge is a shame if it was in the wrong hands, which makes me assume that basim will have some sort of control over Loki and actually leverage his new memories for a much greater purpose.
@MrRaxicorniopholus
@MrRaxicorniopholus 8 ай бұрын
Loved this game. Although not the best writing all around the ending was probably my favorite besides Black Flag and Revelations
@impressions1812
@impressions1812 8 ай бұрын
Really makes me sad that James and them gave up on covering of assassins creed. Like George jokingly said to Tyler in their spoiler cast. “What if it’s everything you want and you’re a assassin again and it’s 20 hours length with one character and a focused narrative” 3 years ago and weren’t those words ever to come true as they did😢
@salmankhan2739
@salmankhan2739 8 ай бұрын
it is what it is man, its unfortunate, I would love for them to come back too but we gotta respect their decisions to walk away from the franchise, its like seeing that favorite couple breaking up.
@impressions1812
@impressions1812 8 ай бұрын
@@salmankhan2739 bro I saw the cinematic trailer for this during the reveal for the 15 year anniversary a couple days before I left for Marine basic training and then it finally came out this year and it’s been so successful and it just sucks it just sucks that they refuse to cover it
@salmankhan2739
@salmankhan2739 8 ай бұрын
@@impressions1812 it does suck but it is what it is, I'm glad we got other OGs sticking around like Leo K, Walshie, Jayvee, Access the animus, AltairStealth and some new AC youtubers like MasterAssassin who is probably my favorite.
@kalifate23
@kalifate23 7 ай бұрын
They said Roshan's full name for a reason..Roshan bint La'ahad and Altaïr Ibn-LaʼAhad...possibly makes Roshan the ancestor to Altair somehow
@RodZombie
@RodZombie 8 ай бұрын
I'm curious about all those other memory seals under Alamut. There's potential for a Mirage sequel where Basim explores these further maybe after each main target is assassinated Basim goes back and studies the memory seals, and we play those memories. So essentially similar to Revelations. I imagine that there has to be more he learns about between the end of Mirage and when he meets Sigurd all those years later.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Then again, when Basim and Hytham meet Sigurd, they're already transferred to Constantinople, so who knows what Ubisoft will do next or if Ubisoft Bordeaux will even be the ones to make that connection?
@Cyifu
@Cyifu 8 ай бұрын
There’s a scroll in Mentor Rayhans room found in the final mission of the game that talks about a rumour of a powerful artefact found deep under the city of Jerusalem and how the hidden ones lack a firm foothold in the city to be able to protect the artefact. There’s also talk about a vacant lot for a home base just north of the city which is most likely where Masyaf is built.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Correct on the first front; Additionally, Masyaf was located in modern day Syria, and Damascus was one of the explorable cities in AC1, which is also located in modern day Syria, so a nice little bit of connecting the dots. Sidenote: I think it'd be interesting if there was a side game taking place after Valhalla, but over 50 years after the events of Valhalla's final DLC in the mid 10th Century; It'd be a great way to explore the impact of the Raven Clan on early English history while also checking out how various iconic cities throughout England once were, but in a new light compared to how they were in Valhalla. This would also be great for linking back to Syndicate since there's an Isu vault beneath Buckingham Palace as shown in Syndicate's final mission, so what does that look like almost a thousand years before the palace was even built and still in England's early years?
@anasobaid6603
@anasobaid6603 16 күн бұрын
Will i be alone? Loki: Allow me to introduce myself
@gasmaskvaporyt8314
@gasmaskvaporyt8314 Ай бұрын
i still believe that basim is not the same on the basis of enkidu rejecting him
@laurendaniellejones5117
@laurendaniellejones5117 7 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that the Norse equivalents are there for Evior to understand. Minerva , Juno and co are all in the story but in Norse filter . At one point we even see the Norse version of Minerva tell Odin that they are using a mirror which is actually the eye. She asks for the prophet - then as they walk away from the mirror ezio can be clearly heard asking who are you ?
@samzorn4656
@samzorn4656 7 ай бұрын
In my honest belief, I think the torturer is Odin prior to or after his adventures in "Dawn of Ragnarok," where he tells Frigg that Loki has been imprisoned for his role in Baldur's capture and death.
@AdApT3Rx
@AdApT3Rx 8 ай бұрын
W video
@Daytruin
@Daytruin 2 ай бұрын
ya, there where so many hints that nehal was not real, starting someone (i forget who) saying that basim was wanted for killing the caliphate and then also nobody ever mentions nehal's presence and whenever basim interacts or meets her she is never acknowledged. I like how they give you another nudge she is not really there when basim asks about her during the ambush towards the end and we clearly saw she was knocked out but then we are told nobody was there which just confirmed it for me. the Jinni part kinda went over my head since i did not play valhalla and must have missed some other things since i also didn't play odyssey. All the same, AC franchise has a lot of story to explain as they have been super cryptic in past games with the ones who came before and the whole thing going on with that. Just feels like they expect to release 100 games till we know what is going on and with the way things are, it's hard to digest with the games not catering to the people who loved the first games and the direction change they made causing some including myself not to play those games.
@Swedb4nk
@Swedb4nk 7 ай бұрын
When it comes to Loki's torturer there is kind of an explanation in norse mythology. Granted I've mostly read Neil Gaiman's book on norse mythology but when the Gods of Asgard finds out Loki is the one responsible for Balders death and they catch him. They bind him in the entrails of his son and has a Snake (I think) drip poison on him. While he's bound his wife holds a bowl over him.
@saintjimmy_ajh
@saintjimmy_ajh 8 ай бұрын
I think the Jinni is meant to be Odin. According to Norse mythology, Loki is imprisoned by Odin for poisoning his son Baldr, which apparently (because I haven’t and cannot be bothered to play it to verify) is the story for the Forgotten Saga in Valhalla
@uppin_downers
@uppin_downers 8 ай бұрын
Basim at the end says “for those who thought to bind me…” which is Loki talking
@AdityaSathya
@AdityaSathya 8 ай бұрын
No
@benjaminclark4558
@benjaminclark4558 6 ай бұрын
Do u think when assassin creed japan come out next year they will add some of the missing pieces of loki's memoires?
@speediskey9503
@speediskey9503 8 ай бұрын
I believe that the Djinn is actually Loki and that Loki haunted him in his dream to make Basim question more about his past. This leads him to want to learn about what is behind the vault in Alamut and learn the truth. Also, I believe that there is nothing in the cell and that Loki tricked him into believing that Nehal was in the cell. As Humans, we tend to remember stuff by going back to the places where we experienced our experiences which is the same case for Basim. He started to remember what this place was as he went into the vault and the holograph also helped him to. Another thing is that Basim isn't gone instead Loki and him merged, and I believe Basim did it so that he could get revenge on the jailer who he believes caused him the nightmares. I believe that the jailor could be Evior as Basim during Vahalla is searching for Odin's reincarnation and Odin in the Norse myths was the one who tied Loki to a rock and tortured him or it could be a new ISU. Loki being the Djinn inside of Basim's brains would be an amazing twist but I don't have any evidence for it instead it is just a theory. Roshin doesn't let Basim in the vault because she knows that ISU objects change humans and they don't become the same.
@tronarclight2976
@tronarclight2976 8 ай бұрын
That's a nice idea, but it's not. The Djinn is actually Basim and Loki's shared view of Odin. Loki sees Odin as a monster because of his torture and what he did to his children. There wasn't anything in the cell, Nehal being there was the games way of representing that Loki was in that cell. Basim isn't gone, he never was gone, he simply fully gained Loki's memories back and decided to act on them and let some of his own beliefs be influenced by Loki.
@borutosdad3873
@borutosdad3873 5 ай бұрын
How did al Mualim active the Apple? Is he part ISU too?
@HumanSculpture
@HumanSculpture 8 ай бұрын
Did you mention Roshan and Altair having the same surname?
@mjarkburgio8621
@mjarkburgio8621 8 күн бұрын
So all questions except one where answered just one hasn't been answered if the jinni is supposed to be loki who are the other people in the "loading screen" and in scenes where the jinni can be seen/heard I think after this video they could be other isu or reincarnations
@MoistLlama69
@MoistLlama69 8 ай бұрын
Odin is the torturer. In Norse mythology, Loki is tortured and imprisoned in a cave for poisoning Baldr (one of Odin sons). The torturer is Odin himself.
@lucasdiazjr5679
@lucasdiazjr5679 7 ай бұрын
Damn wish desmond was still alive wish we had the modern main characters meet and help each other
@BullsAllDay
@BullsAllDay 8 ай бұрын
I wish they cleared up the modern day story on what basim would do next in the present day. Also game was too short with an incredible city design of the round city. Hope they change their mind and do a dlc
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Well, judging by the ending of Valhalla's final DLC, it's implied that he may be trying to teach the modern Assassins somewhat since he describes them as infants compared to those he left behind. (Which could either refer to the Isu if it's Loki talking, or the Hidden Ones if it's Basim talking.) Otherwise, who knows?
@ac_nerd9794
@ac_nerd9794 8 ай бұрын
Mirage was amazing. Basim is by far one of the best characters in the series now and that ending was a bit of a shocker for me. But once I looked back, it was interesting to notice Nehal never talked to anyone else.
@sapnamaygoswami5814
@sapnamaygoswami5814 8 ай бұрын
Can you make this clear ..like the ragnarok from legend is actually the toba catastrophe, life tree as yggdrassil the super computer....who or what is fenrir from legend in the real world projection? though he's loki's son from legend but in nrmal timeline what is he that basim and alethia as hermis staff are so obsessed to unlease him.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
1: Ragnarok IS the Toba Catastrophe or at the very least closely connected to it. 2: Yes, Yggdrassil is the computer; It's just the distant human reinterpretation of it. 3: That one is actually unknown; Presumably some other Isu, but he almost certainly didn't survive the Toba Catastrophe.
@PurpleHazeG
@PurpleHazeG 8 ай бұрын
The sarcophagus still trips me up trying to work out where it fits in. In Loki’s Isu days, was he transported to Alamut to be imprisoned there ? Why Alamut of all places, why a sarcophagus and not a cell? For what crime? Is it ever actually shown in any the Valhalla dlc or any other media ?
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
1: Presumably so, but no way to tell. 2: Alamut wasn't a thing around that time; In all likelihood, that was probably the Isu form of a maximum security prison way back when. (And even then it wouldn't look anything close to what Iran is, which is where Alamut was located.) 3: Who knows? 4: Valhalla gives backstory to his actions, though the prison scene is completely new as far as I know.
@salmankhan2739
@salmankhan2739 8 ай бұрын
Copy pasted from another comment: On Basim's imprisonment- In Norse mythology, Loki is captured by Odin and the other gods after they learn that he killed Baldur, Odin's son. He is then imprisoned in a cave, with a snake's venom dripping down his face as one of his wives holds up a bowl to stop the poison reaching his face. In the Dawn of Ragnarok DLC, we learn that in AC lore, Loki is imprisoned for abducting Baldur and sending him to Sutr the fire giant as a hostage. Ultimately, Loki is said to escape only on the eve of Ragnarok, where he will lead the armies against the gods in the final battle. In the AC universe, I can imagine the Isu Loki went through years of torture in what will become Alamut, only to escape and execute his plan as seen in Valhalla's 'truth' sequence, and dies immediately after that in the Toba catastrophe, so when he is reborn, it makes sense that his reincarnation carries the trauma of captivity in his 9th century self as Basim and the Djinni.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@salmankhan2739 Interesting. We already know that various mythologies are just simply human reinterpretations of bits of Isu history, so maybe some parts of the old stories and the events depicted within are more real than we think. (Well, in the context of Assassin's Creed, anyway.)
@Noctuam734
@Noctuam734 8 ай бұрын
1. To know the location of Baldur. 2. It is a cell, not a sarcophagus. 3. Conspiring against the Aesir. 4. Yes.
@PurpleHazeG
@PurpleHazeG 8 ай бұрын
@@Noctuam734 can you link to where it’s shown ?
@DayNineteen369
@DayNineteen369 8 ай бұрын
You should rename this video to Assassins Creed Explained because I finally got it lol xD
@XavierStanley-zg7vv
@XavierStanley-zg7vv 8 ай бұрын
Basim should be our new lead character there's so much the could with his character and the other sages
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
That's the thing: The other Sages from Valhalla all either died during the events of the game or died after the events of Valhalla's final DLC. As for the rest of the Aita Sages, there's too many possibilities.
@user-hc2vk2ic3u
@user-hc2vk2ic3u 8 ай бұрын
ubisoft is gonna throw him away same as they did with bayek😕
@m.r4841
@m.r4841 8 ай бұрын
At least he's now our new modern day protagonist
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@m.r4841 Presumably.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@user-hc2vk2ic3u Not even remotely the same situation as Bayek; For one, we were first introduced to Basim in Valhalla, and he later got his own prequel game. Bayek didn't stick around after Origins and it's DLC's.
@TheHiddenPrankster
@TheHiddenPrankster 8 ай бұрын
if loki doesnt take over basim, then what about the change of voice and his want to find and punish his captors? once he leaves the vault, he sounds like basim from valhalla, and calls Rayhan mentor in an almost mocking way. i like to think of it as instead of basim getting loki's memories, that loki is now in control, but has access to basim's memories.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
It's most likely meant to be somewhat unclear; However, given how Sages work, it's only the memories of the Isu, not the actual Isu being in control.
@TheHiddenPrankster
@TheHiddenPrankster 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 The Nordic Isu used a different method that Aita though right? Who's to say if it has the same outcome. Its just strange how he has such a shift in personaloty after he melds with loki.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHiddenPrankster Different format, but the same tech; Like I said, though, the lack of clarity is probably deliberate.
@yeleoh
@yeleoh 8 ай бұрын
you sound like Whitelight
@WalshieYT1
@WalshieYT1 8 ай бұрын
tfw the motivation is intrinsic
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 ай бұрын
Odin pretty much a templar based on his actions
@isma5386
@isma5386 8 ай бұрын
Did we get to know what William Miles asked to Basim at the end of Valhalla?
@redharlow7705
@redharlow7705 8 ай бұрын
He asked for his blood so he can access his memories in the animus.
@saiyanspartan2625
@saiyanspartan2625 6 ай бұрын
What game is this scene from? @11:21
@capsule2323
@capsule2323 5 ай бұрын
its from the ending of syndicate im pretty sure
@mariussin1298
@mariussin1298 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree with the conception that Loki doesn't "take over" Basim, that Loki's memories just add another layer to Basim's persona, but they never replace Basim. Isu reincarnation is not like a parasite taking over a body, but rather another life already lived that can be added or rejected to the human in which the memories of the Isu are implanted
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
As it does with all Sages including the Aita ones; They still keep their own personality and memories.
@officemaxpro6960
@officemaxpro6960 5 ай бұрын
Reminds me of MGSV
@WarriorStarXI2005
@WarriorStarXI2005 8 ай бұрын
Honestly prefer this one than Valhalla or Odyssey
@windingroadelven
@windingroadelven 8 ай бұрын
Oddessy was amazing can’t beat that story
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@windingroadelven That is a lie.
@windingroadelven
@windingroadelven 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 it’s my opinion you incel.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@windingroadelven You clearly do not know what that word means; Go outside.
@windingroadelven
@windingroadelven 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 yeah are defo 30st no girlfriend and sits in your own piss
@yt_hatesfreespeech
@yt_hatesfreespeech 6 ай бұрын
The story in the game makes the main quest line in Starfield feel like a children's short story. I cant believe we are living in times where Ubisoft is humiliating Bethesda in the narrative dept lol
@FatalJapan
@FatalJapan 8 ай бұрын
Jailer was milad the armor basim can obtain
@LowlyEidolon
@LowlyEidolon 8 ай бұрын
People talk of the ending but not of the opening
@spark0420
@spark0420 7 ай бұрын
Basim and nehal basically die when they come out.
@victormarquez5940
@victormarquez5940 7 ай бұрын
Loved Mirage. Man, I was losing hope in AC lore after Valhalla, but with its DLCs and now Mirage, it's amazing how they managed to redirect the story to a very interesting plot. Now I have so many questions about the story and I love that. It reminds me of that time when AC 2 was out and we were digging for theories to explain the ending and the Adam & Eve's video. So cool!
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 ай бұрын
Man they best continue this via game and not comic
@GoronMerchant
@GoronMerchant 8 ай бұрын
5:40 it’s Odin.
@m.r4841
@m.r4841 8 ай бұрын
What?
@nicholasalexander9866
@nicholasalexander9866 8 ай бұрын
Ac Origins > Ac Mirage >>> Valhalla/Odyssey. The Dlc could bring Mirage equal to Origins for me honestly. I really enjoy the none choice based AC games. I think Odyssey and Valhalla could’ve been great Ac games if Kassandra and Female Evoir were the canon characters in both games, just like the comics. Having a linear story about Basim was awesome to witness, due to us knowing from start to the end that this is his story. Same feeling I had with Bayek’s story, it just felt right.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
That's the thing: In Valhalla, female Eivor IS canon, something that is especially cleared up in the final DLC.
@kurhanchyk
@kurhanchyk 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 i believe he means it would be great to play canon versions without choices. and i agree with that. if female eivor was the only choice we would probably appreciate a twist with her being odin more since we wouldn't have male eivor (basically odin) as a clue. and it would be more obvious why basim recognised sigurd as tyr but didn't recognise eivor until the end
@nicholasalexander9866
@nicholasalexander9866 8 ай бұрын
@@kurhanchyk Exactly what I meant. Especially the reason you gave. I didn’t even think of that situation of Evior being revealed as Odin, that would’ve been an amazing reveal.
@nicholasalexander9866
@nicholasalexander9866 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 That’s what I meant in my comments
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@kurhanchyk To be fair, I'm willing to bet that's what the team wanted to do, but it almost certainly got shot down by executives. Same happened to Syndicate, Origins, and Odyssey.
@yvenusbeshears5287
@yvenusbeshears5287 8 ай бұрын
I’m still confused is Loki just a memories or is it his consciousness
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Moreso the former per the rules of Sages.
@yvenusbeshears5287
@yvenusbeshears5287 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 So then why did Ubisoft make it look like their consciousness are taking over like in Valhalla or did I and many others interpreted it that way
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@yvenusbeshears5287 It's not really the consciousness; Basim just feels all of Loki's memories and the associated emotions, which is why it's sometimes hard to tell if it's Basim or Loki talking.
@cesramm1120
@cesramm1120 4 ай бұрын
rashan was right hate what happened to her
@Cyrex_XIII
@Cyrex_XIII 8 ай бұрын
I wish they used the memory seals correctly. Your explaination was amazing but it still doesnt excuse odysseys mythical content or the forgotten saga in valhalla for me. I tolerate valhallas og mythical stuff more now tho. I got a question though, why is nehal the manifestation of loki instead of the male loki we see?
@kurhanchyk
@kurhanchyk 8 ай бұрын
i mean it must be easier for basim to perceive loki's personality as a friendly human. if compare to why eivor saw odin himself, because 1) odin is a god to her, while basim likely doesn't know about loki 2) eivor is a woman, which means odin looks different from her. basim would just look at himself. loki is also a trickster and a shapeshifter, at least in mythology, and we know mythology in ac is always "reworked" isu history
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Except they DID use the Memory Seals correctly; This is just long before Altair comes across them.
@Cyrex_XIII
@Cyrex_XIII 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Instead of actual memories, its just holograms and projections. Hell nah they aint used correctly.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@Cyrex_XIII Except they ARE memories; They just aren't from the perspective of those who recorded it. Remember the cutscenes with Altair in Revelations? Chances are they're holograms from Ezio's perspective, which makes sense within the context of Isu tech; You really love to make up complaints, don't you? Get your head out of your ass.
@Lockleytrailers
@Lockleytrailers 8 ай бұрын
In terms of AC story, I think they’re almost running out of history settings since most games always end in the modern day. We wanted Desmond to finally stop the Templars in the modern day, but he ended up sacrificing himself to save the Earth. We get multiple unnamed protagonists in the Kenway trilogy, and finally another person who sacrificed herself in another trilogy. What if they implement a story like Ezio in the modern day? Basim would be able to accomplish ending Abstergo finally. I’m saying this because Ubisoft made the old AC games about Assassins throughout history, Then the new AC games are about pre-Assassins. What about the next few games? All they can do now is fir tiny more bits of games in the history timeline like AC red, Make remakes like Black flag, but yet still no modern day setting game. I say that if they ever create a modern day AC game, They should take notes from the recent Watch dogs game especially WD legion. WD legion was able to implement a futuristic assassin in a futuristic setting and her abilities were so well made that it was more Assassin’s creed than AC Odyssey and Valhalla combined. Not only this but also implement usable guns in the game already like Aiden in the first Watch Dogs. The mechanics in the first Watch dogs was a pretty cool, stealthy, and john wick style gun play that had so much potential to create more games with the same system. There was even a time when Aiden killed the CEO of Abstergo from black flag, which was cannon because of them mentioning this in AC origins.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
No, there's no shortage of historical settings to pull from; Got thousands of years worth of it, in fact. I don't think they're ever gonna go full modern, but one of the available games in the Helix Screen from Unity WAS set in the 1920's as it was called "Jazz Age Junkies", which was a common nickname for the decade itself before the Great Depression, so Ubisoft could go for that if they want something more modern. It'd be very interesting if they decide TO do that, though, since, despite common belief, the 1920's were anything BUT sunshine and rainbows for most of the population: Racism, economic disparity, police brutality, poor working conditions, eugenics, the whole nine yards; Basically think what was shown in Syndicate, but cranked up to 11 and somehow even worse. This could even allow for some interesting twists regarding the works of HP Lovecraft: Perhaps he was a Sage, and so crafted his nightmarish stories based on the visions he saw.
@Lockleytrailers
@Lockleytrailers 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 I know that, i’m saying story wise. Because we already know most of Basim’s History, he has no ancestors because he is one himself, and if he’s going to be the main protagonist in the next games, why would he need to go in the animus for?
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@Lockleytrailers That's assuming he will still be the one in the Animus; We don't know for sure. Like you said, most of the Kenway Trilogy had multiple unnamed or even unseen protagonists, so they can always go in that direction if they wish. Alternatively, they could always do another Subject 16 situation like in AC2 onwards if they want to keep Basim in the driver's seat. There's simply no way to tell.
@Lockleytrailers
@Lockleytrailers 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 I just hope they don’t just waste the story line in the present
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@Lockleytrailers Lord knows; All we can do is wait and see.
@jazz322alllwaysswing
@jazz322alllwaysswing Ай бұрын
I stopped playing after Brotherhood. Thought id watch this as a lets see what's going on type of thing. ....wtf
@TeamWnJ
@TeamWnJ 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Just wanted to say that I don't agree with your analysis that Mirage Basim is still in there persay. You can see after Loki is released that Basim's attitude completely changes. Look at his interaction with Rayshan before and after Loki, he starts smirking and mockingly says "mentor". Also his modern day interaction with William is entirely NOT earnest at all. He mockingly says he has "always" respected the brotherhood but from Mirage we can tell that this is clearly not true. Mirage Basim has merged with Loki and is no more.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
I don't think that lines up.
@TeamWnJ
@TeamWnJ 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 To put it simply, you can't say Nehal doesn't exist anymore but Mirage Basim still exists. They merged. If Nehal doesn't exist anymore, neither does Mirage Basim. If Mirage Basim still exists, Nehal must still exist.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@TeamWnJ Thar's not how it works; This is the same situation as Eivor and Odin. (Quite literally so given it's the exact same process and technology.) Loki doesn't have a consciousness anymore; Just memories: Basim simply just accepts those memories as part of his being, which is why it's sometimes unclear in Valhalla if it's Loki talking or if it's Basim talking. This is how Sages have been since Black Flag: The Sage is still their own person with their own memories and personality; They just also have the memories of the Isu they're connected to.
@TeamWnJ
@TeamWnJ 8 ай бұрын
@@dragonbornexpress5650 I see I see, thanks for explaining!
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
@@TeamWnJ Glad I could help.
@ssgoku89
@ssgoku89 4 ай бұрын
Eivor was a man before cry babies went to the internet. Btw you can pick him as well.
@GoronMerchant
@GoronMerchant 8 ай бұрын
Eivor is a male. It makes zeros sense for Odin to be a girl.
@jasonrobinson4924
@jasonrobinson4924 8 ай бұрын
I am KOZUKI ODEN
@m.r4841
@m.r4841 8 ай бұрын
Eivor is female
@kevinhewston5621
@kevinhewston5621 8 ай бұрын
But if the Order of the Ancients believe in freedom, then why are they involved with bad stuff like slavery? And do the Hidden Ones think a “Pax Isu,” or a golden age of glory and enlightenment (like “Pax Romana”) will be established with the Isu’s reincarnation?
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
You got it mixed up; Other way around. As for the second question, the Order of the Ancients presumably believe that to be the case.
@ParthPillai
@ParthPillai 8 ай бұрын
I mean, are we really gonna overlook that Roshan's full name is Roshan bint-La'Ahad? Like Altair ibn La'Ahad?
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Names hold no weight in this context until fully connected; Besides, Altair was born over 300 years later, so it makes no difference regardless.
@justyoutube1377
@justyoutube1377 7 ай бұрын
Honestly thought the ending was terrible. Lazy by Ubisoft
@RetardedSealBro
@RetardedSealBro 8 ай бұрын
so mirage is fight club..
@fernandor.1387
@fernandor.1387 8 ай бұрын
When a ending needs to be explained, it's a bad ending.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
That is not how it works at all; What are you smoking?
@m.r4841
@m.r4841 8 ай бұрын
That's one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen 🤣
@RussianAssassin100
@RussianAssassin100 8 ай бұрын
Just curious - am I the only fan of old AC who is still very disappointed in Mirage, both gameplay and storywise? Gameplay - clunky and sometime unresponsive with stupid ai. Story - rushed and poorly delivered with no dramatic stakes and conflicts. Characters and dialogue - poorly written with almost zero personality, dull robotic dialogues, unclear motives. I trully wanted to love Mirage and was ready to give it a chance but left very dissatisfied and also feeling that maybe I missed something. This explanation helped a bit but still left with a feeling that the story was written deliberately vague, and not in a good way.
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, most of this comment just sounds like you didn't actually play the game as very few of this tracks.
@windingroadelven
@windingroadelven 8 ай бұрын
Just give us Kassandra basim is an awful character
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, no; I want to know what you're smoking to think this.
@ataibsaleem7419
@ataibsaleem7419 8 ай бұрын
Kassandra’s generic af. I quit less than halfway through Odyssey because it was so bloated and boring. I don’t understand why people like generic and mediocre rpgs.
@redharlow7705
@redharlow7705 8 ай бұрын
​@@dragonbornexpress5650some good ole crack💀
@sergiu4631
@sergiu4631 7 ай бұрын
He is a thousand times more interesting and cooler than Kassandra
@redharlow7705
@redharlow7705 7 ай бұрын
@sergiu4631 I like Kassandra a lot but Basim is just another level
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