Assassin's Creed Odyssey | A Game Out of Touch

[@MilkBoyFilms]

Ubisoft mistook "changing it up a little bit" with "changing the entire game"

[@jordanjames2956]

Yeah they made it actually interesting and good.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@jordanjames2956 We are in denial.

[@fast7710]

@@jordanjames2956 wtf the old ones where better black flag was better

[@Pankypops]

@@jordanjames2956 Your delusion would be interesting to psychologists.

[@Hc4697]

Andree Tungcab sales and reviews aren’t in denial ;) the majority really liked odyssey

[@flatpepsi]

I'd actually like the game more if it was simply called "Odyssey" and marketed as a game that took place in the AC universe. That way, them breaking the commandments would've been justified.

[@flatpepsi]

@Steve Robertson oh cool so i'll just call the next cod "ac: black ops remastered"

[@insanenero2922]

@Steve Robertson ...you're kidding right? He literally put the commandments in the video. And linked it.

[@traficantedepildorasrojas4900]

@Steve Robertson this fanboy didnt even bother to watch the video lol gtfo

[@moosejuice4231]

Steve Robertson did you watch the video???

[@Joeysaladslover]

Soggy Lip fucking freak.

[@ZeroOmega-vg8nq]

This was my issue with it. Bayek was the origin they shouldnt even have gone further back other than finding some bullshit way to play as adam and eve.

[@curtisbell9203]

Zero Omega2100 exactly , the game and story was perfectly fine , I feel like the writers semi racism just couldn’t accept the original assassin being egytian so they had to mess up things with a pointless rushed “action rpg game” it had nothing to do with Assasins creed

[@chaoticgreece]

Nothing to do with racism. It was just easier to release one more game with different enough setting but mostly the same assets so soon. Easy money.

[@devaneboyd5284]

@@curtisbell9203 Ubisoft literally said they did ancient Greece because it was highly requested by the fan base. They just wrote themselves into a corner making the origin 400 years later

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@devaneboyd5284 Then just let Ancient Greece be at Bayek's time. It was still Ancient Greece despite under Roman occupation.

[@theresarayner5726]

Quebec loves Greece for some reason

[@witchywoman2008]

“They’re trying to do both but doing neither very well.” Yes. That’s it.

[@archielong3297]

Origins was actually my favourite assassin creed game as it was in ancient Egypt, which I love, and it was still, I feel, an assassin creed game. Unlike odyssey

[@stunner9005]

It also tied into the other games (kind of).

[@splintex862]

Archie Long I think it was my favourite with AC 2 aswell!

[@briannamoon6207]

For me, I like learning about ancient societies so I get excited about any game that allows me to explore them.

[@filipbrcko]

I love Greece so im sad that it was this bad game also origins is my fav ac game as well

[@zacharybrown8054]

@A K nah I hate this game but I love origins

[@RodrigoRosseeuw]

wow! the way you used their own rules to highlight the fact that it is not an AC game, that was awesome man, great work. Hopefully they will take their own franchise seriously from now on, or just create a new IP instead of breaking their own rules.

[@kysonruskamp2963]

Rodrigo Rosseeuw your wish came true

[@syedinsaf7481]

@@kysonruskamp2963 how?

[@atanki5682]

@@syedinsaf7481 they're making a new viking assassin's creed game, I hope it will be a true ac game... I'm afraid it will have too much norse and gods and creatures... We don't know yet tho.. I personally think it's gonna be an odyssey knock off, just different characters and equipment, and of course in norse countries, like Norway, and norse people write stories about God's just like Greek mythology..

[@thegrayyernaut]

Ubisoft is making Gods and Monsters, which is a new IP about Greek mythos. Guess they love making mythical stuff so much they had to use AC as a lab rat.

[@mikebrushing1851]

@@syedinsaf7481 yeah, HOW?!

[@Daniel__Nobre]

Such an on point review! It’s frustrating because they did improved a couple of things from Origins but they did so many moronic and absurd decisions. The level scaling, the grind, the damage sponges enemies, the fire behaviour, the mercenaries system, no shields (in Ancient Greece... WTH!), and so many more! I think this team just doesn’t like to do AC games. Think about it. Black Flag is a pirate game. Syndicate was a Batman style game. And finally Odyssey is a MMO inspired action RPG that shares little to nothing to AC..

[@Killicon93]

The only sensible explanation for Alexios and Kassandra being interchangeable by the animus is that two of their descendants definately did something incestious.

[@coldorder8412]

@ Which is still a lame explanation for their BS.

[@musclegang8255]

THE1NONLY1 I’m not playing any game as a bitch

[@fisticuffsmate]

MUSCLE GANG this is why you can’t get laid dumbass

[@coldorder8412]

@@fisticuffsmate Big oof!

[@musclegang8255]

Fisticuffs Mate yeah I can’t get laid..... good one

[@joeyacevedo5267]

Odyssey’s interpretation of Ancient Greece is so nauseatingly colorful. Remember when you went to Greece for one of those Naval missions in Origins? It looked just like one of those old renaissance paintings of Greek Myths. It was dripping with atmosphere and a sense of believability as a place. Meanwhile in Odyssey, I NEVER felt like I was in a real place, something that Origins managed to accomplish effortlessly.

[@shikniwho7215]

well another thing Odyssey throw away is the tomb's designed, compare to the pyramid in Origin, all with it own design and challenge, it even make me feel like something gonna jump out at me anytime i enter one of them but Odyssey's tombs are all the same thing and instead of come up with some puzzle, they just throw snakes in there with bunch of spike trap that completely pointless. I pretty much just run as fast as i can to get it done for the skill point.

[@Johnny-ny3ko]

to be fair, Odyessy takes place during the golden age of the greeks while also at the beginning of the war. Origins takes place around 50 BC to 30 AD I think, when most of the known world was conquered by the Romans or were forcefully allied through conquest

[@janmeder975]

Totally agree, but it's not only the colors. The giant statues, the mythical creatures, mystic places and a bit over the top fantasy weapons and armor... with Odyssey most of the time I had the feeling to explore a kind of "Ancient Greek Disney World" but not the believable recreation of a historical place or region. Something Origins was way better at.

[@Bardim18]

It was an accurate depiction of ancient Greece. Ancient Greece was indeed that colorful. Origins' depiction of ancient Greece on the other hand was like a museum tour.

[@Arianeria]

The bigger bullshit is that they insert feminism and sjw political agenda in this game too.

[@jvinsantos6861]

I kinda hate that there's no shield.. The intro itself when Leonidas throw his shield was kinda dumb.. when Spartans really depends on the shield. There should be an allegiance or choice if you want to support Athens or Sparta.. hence Athenians will attack you if you side with Sparta or vice versa (You should have different benefits when siding on each nation).. Conquest battle is so dumb.. Damn so many missed opportunities.

[@vrujinko1699]

(ICYMI) that allegiance thing exists though sadly not in a grandly useful nor relevant way. When you complete the “Daughters of Artemis” questline, you can walk around their camps without confrontation. I expected the “kill polemarchs” questline from both generals to do the same. Instead I got an epic spear I don’t use nor have much incentive to do so 😒

[@jvinsantos6861]

@@vrujinko1699 the level scaling is annoying here whether with enemies or weapons.. It's like no weapons to stick up as well as you can just kill a new one and own that weapon with a new level.. hence making the upgrade weapon mechanic useless thus making the coins super useless as well.. goddamn Ubisoft!

[@daddyhatesu]

@@jvinsantos6861 nah I completed the game with legendary Armor that I used from level 45 all the materials are useful. If you can't handle grinding you don't deserve ethe level up. It's like the story of fox and grapes

[@thecommentguy9380]

Quite an insult on spartans in Thermopylae ngl. They dont throw away their shield or break formation like a bunch of idiots.

[@unstableguy8191]

**********SPOILERS********** Dude you hit the nail on the head when you said it felt like a worse version of the Revelations ending. I literally thought the same exact thing when I inevitably KZbin searched the ending of odyssey, (because ofcourse I refused to buy this imposter of a game.) I was in such disbelief I gave them the benefit of the doubt assuming, oh it's the "bleeding effect" finally something familiar but no. It was real and it was garbage. I even went to watch the ending of revelations afterward to remind myself of golden times. Even though the ending of odyssey was like the next level in terms of bonding with the ancestor of you can even call it that I guess, it was leagues behind that pivotal moment of Ezio accepting his fate and speaking out to the phantom who he only knew by name. I think that even just the barrier of mortality being between both Ezio and Desmond made the moment so much more epic. I still get chills just talking about it and especially rewatching it even in this day and age causes my eyes to water a bit. But that's when I realized, that game despite being nearly a decade behind in terms of technology and graphics had more impact then this modern next gen story made me feel nothing. I never thought I'd play an AC game that's story made me feel nothing. I still wonder if I'm even awake right now. But I NEVER EVEN KNEW about those Ten Commandments. That makes it all the worse. God. But Thank you for sharing your input. I always value it very highly. So I agree. This is not an Assassin's Creed game and it's why it's the first game since Brotherhood I haven't bought and pre ordered the collection edition for. It's also why I've decided that if they don't return to true form in terms of lore and even historical accuracy, I'm done with "Assassin's Creed."

[@DRFESTERPUS69]

Underrated comment. The story is a big problem for me. It was forgettable. The games that came before up to AC3 for me at least had moments that were not. Even unity had some memorable moments. Like when his crush died i was sad and relieved at the same time. This game made me feel nothing. At least Origins made me feel anger for Amunett.

[@clefton3112]

Alright RPG shit AC game

[@molhenson]

More like Not a ac game Incredible rpg

[@every60secondsaminutepasse74]

More more like Shitty ac game Shitty rpg

[@peripateticguy55]

More like, Good game, Shit AC game, Average RPG game.

[@nomanja6816]

@@every60secondsaminutepasse74 it is a great game if they made a game like every other one you would hate it too smh

[@kassandraofodyssey6475]

More like Stfu no one cares about this game anymore

[@DennBoy11]

That piece of monteriggioni music means more to me than all of odyssey

[@the_seer_0421]

Yeah that's just beautiful😊

[@Artyom_Alekseyevich_2033]

Agreed

[@andrewbarro9506]

So I agree 100% that this isn't an assassin Creed game. However, it simply can't be anymore. After unity and syndicate people got tired of the formula which you read in this video. The franchise was dying and could have been killed off completely. The point of origins was to reinvent what a AC game was, and it did. And because of that people loved it. Odyssey was to continue the changes origins made, and it did. The 10 commandments you read can't be used anymore because the series was reinvent in 2017 because of franchise fatigue.

[@rondaniels5089]

Absolutely, the old formula was outdated and the franchise needed reinvention.

[@memecliparchives2254]

But ORIGINS managed to be both new and old. And Odyssey was another Rpg flick slap an AC title on it. I can play this game, if I'm dumb...... Yeah now I'm dummy, wait I played this game?

[@andrewbarro9506]

@@memecliparchives2254 No. Odyssey builds on what Origins was. It feels more of the same because that's simply how game development works. Origins had 4 years to create something new and we're successful, however Odyssey had 3 years, but that's not entirely bad. They used assets from Origins so they didn't have to reinvent the wheel twice. Games take a really really long time to develop. Look how long it takes rockstar to come out with a game. So in order to push them out faster they reuse assets and build on top of that. I believe Odyssey may have taken a different approach to the series as a whole, and they definitely gambled on it, but it should be praised for trying something new. Not everyone is gonna like this approach, but that doesn't matter because what they looked at was sales of unity and syndicate. If they stuck with that and kept pumping games out in the same manner, sure there would have been the hardcore base, but obviously that base wasn't large enough to hold the franchise afloat. Odyssey apparently sold the best on this console generation so far, so I feel like they are doing something right.

[@jax_wildguess]

The formula was perfect before the Syndicate game. At first, i thought they fucked up one game, but then origins, and then this piece of shit unplayable game came. Really fucking depressing dude. I am sad people bought this. No sense of identity whatsoever. But hey, RDR2 is on the way

[@memecliparchives2254]

@Yo Momma Yet Unity had a bland story. Only interesting character was Bellec. Only in Dead Kings that Arno actually was interesting for me. Take out Elise and you have a good story. No, instead the game being about Unity, it's about fighting for a Templar chick.

[@null5071]

No fucking way. The original development team even wrote instructions yet they still manage to fuck it up. Holy shit.

[@DeadFool321]

Oydessy wants to be a good game, it is not concerned with being a good Assassin's Creed game however.

[@diesenutss]

Well we haven't had one of those for years so idk what to tell you

[@DeadFool321]

Fair enough, but I personally rather see a series retire than lose it's identity over the years. I'm all for evolving the series, but this direction is getting further away from the unique qualities of the original with each installment.

[@yzmleex5506]

the fighting liberal Lol good luck on saying that in front of the OG AC fans your gonna get jumped after saying Ezio games are overrated trash. And besides you sons like a newcomer to the AC franchise.

[@grandconqueror5712]

Well this generation of gamers likes to grind, look at mobile games. AC had to be reformed in order to survive, do you think that old AC would have survived today? It would only be bought by hardcore AC fanboys and some outside of that. PS. Played through AC 1, 2, 3 and other AC games except for handhelds.

[@Kassassin2]

"The movie was great really enjoyed it"-Lazerzz

[@baroquechevalier8516]

James was on some serious drugs back then. Even Tyler tried helping him in the podcast.

[@549eric]

Yep it was good 😭

[@Cyorex_XV]

the movies was descent but I still give it a 5/10 in my opinion

[@joshuareynolds23]

@@549eric ac the movie was absolutely garbage

[@549eric]

@@joshuareynolds23 I was joking

[@_eRuDiT0_]

Your opinion is so true. Assassin's creed isn't what it used to be. Back in the day it was magical, its weird to say I know. But every game felt like a trance, you were hooked to it like a drug. It used to mean so much. But now, it's something that should never be classed as an AC game

[@_eRuDiT0_]

@the fighting liberal you are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. Its just my opinion is right

[@_eRuDiT0_]

@the fighting liberal funny you say that. But I just made it work.

[@DaniyalAhmed-lb2eo]

@@_eRuDiT0_ the gameplay for the ezio trilogy is bad due the the facts theirs more fun games to play,however the story was magnificent

[@DaniyalAhmed-lb2eo]

@the fighting liberal THE Story WAS Phenomenal tho

[@_eRuDiT0_]

@@DaniyalAhmed-lb2eo yh completely agree. But the very reason I loved AC was because of the story. It was so full of mystery. It made you look at all the little details to find the answers to the many questions. It's what AC lacks now. The recent ACs have been dense but with no substance. It all feels artificial. I don't know how to explain it properly. The story used to feel organic but now feels forced.

[@masterspark9880]

‘He avoid collateral damage as much as possible’ So I was never an Assassin

[@adomasnarbutas9008]

The Cult of Cosmos is also my favourite thing about this game. Enormous secretive organization that controls all pillars of ancient Greece. Best example of Templars in my opinion.

[@christianarroyo2056]

It was so gimmicky though, IMO the Cult would have been replaced by the order of ancients. Having so many different shadowy organizations is getting tired. Instead of getting an origin story about the assassins brotherhood this game should've been about the origins of the Templars and how they took root throughout the world. Anyway I feel like AC games should be more like guided story telling that you play through (like GOW) so that it follows the commandments directly because that's what made the original trilogy with Ezio so good. It was excellent storytelling that captivated the audience who experienced it. Giving the player major choices in someone memory that you shouldnt be able to change is B.S even if its fragmented DNA it doesn't explain the modern day protagonist scene with the staff of Hermes.

[@MistahJay7]

Truth in plain sight

[@mikehawk1444]

Christian Arroyo the cult is the start of the Templar’s bro?

[@apathetictaco6944]

@@mikehawk1444 Isn't the Order of Ancients the true predecessor? The cult of Cosmos, given the similarities, could be considered a branch, but I feel the Order is the true predecessor given how all 3 of the newer games treated it

[@Bardim18]

@@apathetictaco6944 Both are predecessors of the Templars. If you spare Aspasia after you kill all the Cultists the strongly hints that she joined the Order of the Ancients and she brought in several elements of the Cult of Kosmos.

[@adaytoremember592]

Its a shame to see how far the franchise has fallen from the desilets' vision, Its refreshing to see genuine constructive critiques well done james 👌🏻

[@Alrahmahstudios]

If Ubisoft wants to do this with every AC game then they should really stop making assasins creed games. I miss the golden age of assassins creed when it felt like....you know....ASSASSIN'S CREED? ever since Ubisoft fired Patrice assassin's creed never felt the same and this game is a great example

[@yourboy4005]

When did they fire Patrice like what year

[@d00m3fanatic]

Agreed should have been a full Egypt and Greek game duo. Then made a completely separate AC game

[@Oatlis]

@@yourboy4005 I think he left halfway through the production of brotherhood. But they didn't fire him I believe.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@Oatlis I red that he left, came back and then he was fired.

[@DarrenL2009]

dank lord 69 they can do whatever they want with there own franchise. It’s there’s not ours. And it is connected to the Assassins lore.

[@thehiddenone2875]

Minute 8:58 so its ok that Ezio multiply himself??? there has always been something mystic to that Franchise, you cant deny that.

[@646-48]

Every time someone whinges about “ohh you guys wanted change this IS an AC game” I’m going to point them in this video’s direction, and to Patrice’s commandments

[@XProjectHunterX]

He should have had a clause in his contract that said if ubisoft broke the commandments he would get his franchise back lol. At least then it would have been in good hands.

[@mrjonathanvella]

Change in itself is good, but it depends on where the changes are made. In this case the changes hurt the franchise

[@RamirezR]

Jonathan Vella i dont agree at all, the changes were very good for the franchise. i think the commandments limited the AC games, they were probably originally only thought out for AC1 to 3, seeing as how thats where Patrice wanted to stop the series, or so i have heard. but thats just my opinion. i have enjoyed all the AC games, but my favorites have been Origins and Odyssey.

[@RamirezR]

@David Digi then get Odyssey, you will have a blast

[@RamirezR]

@David Digi hope you have a great time!

[@lyjahthomas9556]

wit dis new canon, its safe to say Bigfoot is da greatest assassin of all time, cause nobody spotted him at all in III thru Rogue 😱 lol

[@PatrickProductions19]

Ubisoft doesn’t care, they should watch this essay for the next game

[@wazirtahfiz3087]

But ubi doesn't care Get it??? no okey bye

[@ahumanbeing5781]

This makes me want to replay all the older assassins’s creeds . I want to relive that nostalgia. Excellent review btw James.

[@arnlmoihuyy1797]

Deadly Gamer you should play All ac games from ac1 to Ac rouge best games

[@SpinningTurtle66]

I’ve committed a sin by never playing any of the games up until Black Flag, definitely gonna but those... 4 games? Roughly that, and then all of the ones I also enjoyed

[@Abraun897]

You wanna relive horrible tailing missions and terrible sidequests and one button insta kill combat that has enemies literally waiting to take turns attacking you? That's fine, but this is better. It's different and new and it's a lot better.

[@SpinningTurtle66]

Adam Braunstein Nope. I want nostalgia of games that I love.I don’t care if you say that there are many bad aspects to the games, there is a reason I loved them. And I want to play the beginning of the series. Sometimes I’d rather feel like an assassin than superman who can cause a hellfire of arrows to rain down on someone.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@SpinningTurtle66 I know you might disagree, but I love Origins. It's made by the same people who made Black Flag after all.

[@FelipePalha66]

Honestly i would feel better if they just started a new ip or a spin off similar to Liberation, where in the whole experience is just one of Abstergo's entertainment 'experiences'. They could go complete wild with it since AE's experiences are normally edited to make the templars looks good.

[@benharris8099]

Excellent video, it's so nice to have a review from someone who actually knows about AC and knows what AC should be and how wrong it's gone

[@HovektheArtist]

The fusion of man and piece of eden was an experiment that was scrapped and the apples of eden were then made to instead create illusions as physical creatures made with pieces of eden were too unruly

[@khaldounyounes]

You sir provided the best and ultimate ac odessy review, and nailed it! Thank you! Finally someone understands what ac game should be.

[@LazerzZ]

Thank you!

[@AdityaSathya]

Great video as usual . I do feel that this game is a million times better than syndicate. I think that the main villain was infinitely better than Flavius or Starrick. I personally really liked the naval and exploration (I turned off the question marks in the pause menu) and I had a good time playing this game. However this is by no means an AC game and the way Ubi Quebec treated Loomer is not acceptable. There is literally no one at Ubisoft who has been working on AC from the beginning . No matter how passionate Ash and his team are,they have to follow what this team has done and AC is forever FUCKED

[@AdityaSathya]

And it was a good modern day as well

[@ggb7302]

@@AdityaSathya it was shit

[@assassinsbleedacwalkthroug9947]

who is loomer? if this is what i think it is, the same exact thing happened to destiny and halo

[@dragan3659]

Therriffic Gamer flavius was pretty cool, but he was underused however the mini quests of each other villain was pretty solid.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@dragan3659 However, I only see it in order to keep the twist unpredictable. If Flavius was shown a lot of times, I would instantly make him a suspect involving Khemu's murder.

[@yousefalsalqan79]

I agree with all you said and unfortunately ac is screwed forever. Man I just wanted a bayek sequel

[@yousefalsalqan79]

the fighting liberal ok mate ??!!!

[@memecliparchives2254]

@Bobby Three Yeah man

[@karatemaster87]

When you realize Assassins Creed channels are endangered: 😔😔😔😔 Pray for Lazzerz,Jorraptor, Fizhy 🙏

[@AliceSpeltRight]

I dont know why Ubisoft doesn’t just make it a stand alone game. Why bother tacking on the ac title just to piss off fans

[@kronosleblu888]

Not to piss off fans. But more so to make money. If they called it Greek yogurt gladiators they wouldn't make as as much money. So they had to slap on the Assassin's Creed logo. Wouldn't be surprised if they made a First person shooter and named it assassin's Creed.

[@THEYCANTSTOPME]

It's in the world of AC tho

[@headbangerdnb]

Sure, it's not an Assassin's Creed game, but it is easily the best in the series. AC games have always been linear and I've honestly never cared about them. That said, I love RPG's, so I found this game to be very entertaining. Far from my favorite RPG, but easily the best "AC" game.

[@ReignSupreme2014]

If you think this is the best AC game in the series you need your head checked quickly. It doesn't hold a candle to the Ezio Trilogy! Not even fucking close.

[@nava93s]

@@ReignSupreme2014 ikr this guy is a crazy to think that

[@recreatedwings9314]

@Han Duong So, this person is a newcomer because they have an opinion and their own thought on what they think is best? Okay. I forgot its against the law to have opinions on the internet.

[@ammarkhan9353]

Am I wrong to have a personal grudge against this game just because they threw away bayek? I know that it's stupid to dislike a totally different game over an unrelated character but bayek was the only character sincd ezio who I think could've had an awesome triology, but they threw him away just like that

[@rondaniels5089]

They didn't throw him away, both games have been in development for years, and what I have noticed in AC since the Ezio era is that the focus has shifted from the character to the setting, nothing happened on Greece during Bayek's time, so they opted for the Peloponnesian War which was a very important period in Greek history. Also since there was no guarantee that Bayek would be a popular character they have decided to have another character since the early stages of development.

[@memecliparchives2254]

No my fellow fan, rage all you want as Bayek is the best since Ezio and they threw him away.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@rondaniels5089 Battle of Actium: Octavian vs Mark Antony and Cleopatra. After that battle, Cleopatra decided to commit suicide or should I say........ Yeah that happened in Greece.

[@ammarkhan9353]

@@rondaniels5089 Like the guy above this comment said, a second game in greece wouldn't have been much of an issue. Also, the setting of the game doesn't always need to be at a pivotal moment in history. Look at ac brotherhood, it's set in the ruins of rome with almost no defining event happening, but what it lacks in that storyline, it makes up by focusing on the assassins' brotherhood, and the secret war between them and the templars. An ac with bayek could do this very easily, by focusing on the newly formed brotherhood and waging the secret war. There was so much potential but yet thrown away

[@JakenTheGreat]

I hated Bayek. Id strongly prefer if ubisoft left him in the dust of Egypt forever.

[@EpicGamersAustralia]

Idk why it should matter if he is an Assassin or not. No one said anything during Rogue. But that gane was made to explore the other side. And so thats how this game should be taken. It answers the question "What was happening before the Assassins and Templars were first established?" and that's how it should be looked like. It shows us a time where someone from the bloodline somes to the realisation that there is a group trying to control the people, and that should be the main element of every Assassin's Creed game.

[@Yarenoglu]

You've clearly joined the assassin's creed club yesterday sunshine, we were quite vocal about both unity and rogue's representation of templars. In fact there was a minority of people who outright boycotted the game because it steered away from the first 3

[@Yarenoglu]

and, it doesn't matter if he's an assassin or not? I bet you're the type that says "why does it matter? you don't need to be a boy to be a boy scout" you make me sick

[@DRFESTERPUS69]

Well because at least Rogues character Shay Cormack was an assassin at first then changed to a Templar. Unity had the love interest and father figure be a templar to show how not everything is black and white when making decisions. AC3 you play as Connors father who is a Templar. It is not a problem that you are not an assassin because honestly, you can be either assassin or templar. Its because it has nothing to do with what came before. Nothing about assassins or templars just some side quest in a DLC that explain the hidden blade. Wow so CoOllll.

[@YoshiLupus]

Because Rogue still had Assassins and Templars... 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@benrussell-gough1201]

To me, the Big Reveal exposition in the end of the Cultist storyline is where Odyssey finally fully links into the Assassin's Creed lore with a strong implication that the protagonist has been a central and pivotal figure in all events between the past and the modern day. The big problem is that Ubisoft's writers fumbled the ball in making this sufficiently clear and not requiring a huge amount of player interpretation.

[@daylenmanley6507]

I really appreciate your views and opinions following the assassins creed legacy and everything involved. However, I've noticed you've become very biased in the way that you judge the franchise, savagely critiquing the smallest details because they haven't given what you, as a fan, want. Which is fine, it's natural to be disappointed by what a game offers, especially when you've come too expect the most from the series. However, it's counter productive too judge the individual game by itself if you're going to compare it too the rest of the franchise anyway. That being said, there are a plethora of connections drawn between Odyssey and prior games. It's a story diving further into the mythos of the first civilization. Ubisofts 10 commandments for an assassins creed game were created for the Brotherhood, not for mercenary descendents of the Isu before the Creed existed. As a dedicated fan myself, I'm grateful that Odyssey takes even more steps too further expand and progress the lore and world of Assassins Creed, even if we dont have a hood or hidden blade. Even with the plot holes and inconsistencies. After all, most of our actual history is shrouded in much of the same. We've had protagonists that are Assassins, and some that were Templars.. why not the Isu.? I do enjoy your content, just wish you'd be a little more open-minded sometimes. Can't wait too see your reaction too the next game

[@musicalmami9]

He went into this game with clear bias because they did not continue Bayek’s story like he wanted. I too was concerned when they announced Odyssey and wondered how it would fit into the AC universe. I agree with your comment completely.

[@m.r.mziyard434]

+Gigi Nova I agree, Lazerzz was already biased he still is. I mean the ISU is a main pillar of the lore, and he should know that cause he makes videos on that lore all the time. He was already biased regarding it before, he still is. (To be honest this was much less savage than I expected it to be. He doesn't want to admit it but he is surprised by how good it feels to play)

[@m.r.mziyard434]

+Gigi Nova I agree, Lazerzz was already biased he still is. I mean the ISU is a main pillar of the lore, and he should know that cause he makes videos on that lore all the time. He was already biased regarding it before, he still is. (To be honest this was much less savage than I expected it to be. He doesn't want to admit it but he is surprised by how good it feels to play)

[@m.r.mziyard434]

+Yo Momma Shows how much you've played the game, because regardless of the lore, (which is still upheld) the gameplay and story and its writing are the best it has been for a very long time. The story is the best since revelations, and gameplay is the best it has ever been IMO, and according to a vast majority of reviews a lot of other people's opinion.

[@m.r.mziyard434]

+Yo Momma first of all I finished the game and I only saw the store about 80 hrs in the game, and you know why? Because of the bullshit some reviewers are spewing about the grind. They might have a review deadline, nobody else does. The game wasn't meant to be rushed through it, it was meant to be played by partaking in the countless other side activities simultaneously, it can hardly ne defined a grind.(And this is a fucking huge RPG for god's sake, you should know you are in it for the long haul if you buy it.). There is nothing wrong with having a few micro transactions in a single player game, if it is not pushing you towards it. Odyssey doesn't. Second, this carries the MD story forward in ways that it hasn't gone in 4 games. It provides a connection to origins before it and to the games following it. Unlike the standalone Assassins vs templar battles in different settings that was boring everyone to death. And this game focuses on the First civ (a main pillar if the franchise) a hell of a lot more than any of the previous games. In other words this game is more relevant to this franchises overarching story and future than all the games since black flag.

[@lucian6273]

I love the Patrice era games and I believe that is the definitive Assassin's creed however I believe that Origins evolved the franchise in an immense, amazing way. Odyssey just fell flat after Origins in my opinion.

[@lucian6273]

@the fighting liberal well I really like Bayek. I thought the voice acting was phenomenal. And the combat was more satisfying. The map may not be as big but I think Egypt is more exciting as a setting.

[@RamirezR]

Art Collector i liked Bayek too, and who knows maybe since they saw how popular he was they are making another game with him in Rome right now. and we may even see Kassandra, when you finish the game you will understand why (for anyone that hasnt finished the game). but i think Odyssey took everything that was great about Origins and improved on it.

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@lucian6273 Origins was the point that Ashraf can revive if not continue what Patrice intended to. The passion for that game was a treat and I felt that Assassins Creed would be great again and Patrice would be proud of Ashraf.

[@DRFESTERPUS69]

Origins was a good game. I hated the RPG elements but i could deal with them because they were not that bad and for the combat I could use the cursed weapons. Now Oydessy is stupid and all accounts accepts for map design.

[@Thomaskh7]

A huge thing about Origins though is the Parkour is terrible and basic instead if a fun traversal mechanic that the map is build around

[@user-vr5zk9ox8d]

But the Cult of Kosmos does become the Templar organization (possibly The Order of the Ancients as well?), and the protagonist comes into possession of pieces of Eden which leads into one of the prime reasons there’s conflict between the Assassins and the Templars... so it does still uphold rule #1 (that being it all happened within the Peloponnesian war).

[@rikiishitoru8885]

11:01 Wasn't Tyranny just showing what Ratohnhnhake:ton and Washington saw when they touched the Apple?

[@matts8791]

Grognak The Destroyer yes. Connor was showing Washington what would happen if he became more tyrannical and embraced the power of the apple.

[@Sonoboy7]

I love AC Odyssey! I love that I can do whatever I want in the game without failing missions and being forced to only explore certain areas. Play the old games if you are looking for nostalgia.

[@Nicholas_V.]

Technically Tyranny wasn't an uchronia but I agree with everything else.

[@joeb8617]

Personally I live this game but I do respect every point made and I do see where your coming from

[@apathetictaco6944]

Same here. I can see why it shouldn't be categorized as an AC game but for me it was a great RPG type game which I could easily pour hours into. Where a regular AC game to me felt very linear I greatly enjoyed this games more open world design.

[@stevendunn8897]

I love this game, and I love the direction that the series is going...I’m not sure why people don’t like the premise, I think the assassins brotherhood had been played out, even rogue had the AC title and it was about a Templar...this game adds a 3rd group to the mix and lets you play as the closest thing to a person from the first civilization as we have ever gotten. It’s based in Greece and they gave you a character who was as close to a Demi god as we are likely to get. It’s a great game.

[@loreseeker6604]

But who says what the detergent has to be to be "real detergent"? Butthurt narcissistic fans who have no understanding of AC history or RPG mechanics?

[@stevendunn8897]

Assassins creed is a brand, but it’s also a game universe where there are many different facets and sides. How much of the story can you possibly learn if all you ever see is one side of the story?

[@stevendunn8897]

Yo Momma the thing is, this isn’t a box of detergent...this is a fictional universe and it’s multi layered. They can do whatever they want with it, it the highest grossing AC game ever made so I’m guessing your in the minority opinion. If you don’t want to play it, that’s fine, it’s your choice and no one is going to force you to play this awesome game, I just think you getting hung up on the name is stopping you from enjoying this epic RPG.

[@stevendunn8897]

Yo Momma you realize you keep touching on the same argument no matter what I say right? Your argument is that Ubisoft isn’t doing the right thing and I disagree, you say that it was just for a weekend but only time will tell...I say we revisit this argument after a few months and see if it’s following your prediction or mine. As to your pathetic whining, leave that shit out of the conversation next time so that we can have a real intelligent conversation.

[@stevendunn8897]

Yo Momma ok, let’s talk facts then...you haven’t even played the game, refuse to in fact based solely on the name meaning that every game has to be the exact same shit every time. I’ve played the game and enjoyed it, how dare I...go fuck yourself you whiny pathetic piece of shit. There, I stooped to your ignorant level, does that make you happy. Now either play the game or not, but if you don’t play it, your opinion on it is shit.

[@Ghost-ql3hl]

Why didn’t they give bayek his sequel ffs

[@13thHollows]

Ok kinda unrelated, but Altaïr is so fucking underrated. For starters he was a Mentor. Was demoted and had to reclaim his title, kill his mentor who was more of a father to him, made sure to expand the brotherhood across the world, and wrote the Codex ! There a lot more about him we still don’t know but in my opinion he’s still a badass.

[@violetrose740]

Mary Read, Caroline Scott, Cristina and many more female characters did ALOT while still being bound to historical accuracy. And, here it comes, they were awesome.

[@archieforsyth5211]

For me AC odyssey felt like the assassins found an artifact and decided to put the dna on it into the animus because they were interested. Almost like a side quest of the overarching narrative of the assassins vs Templars war and so it felt really disconnected from the rest of the franchise. Hopefully they just did this to test how people responded to rpg style gameplay and will now continue the story 🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@pizzatime1107]

ArchieMF 23 I completely agree, but all the Assassins creed games from after 3 felt that way even black flag and origins which I love they need to have an overarching story like when they used to with Juno.

[@archieforsyth5211]

Pizza Time AC black flag I’ll agree with you, it wasn’t really related but origins was an exception because it was the founding of the creed so it kind of needed to be past heavy (you really got this with the hidden ones DLC). But yeah they would have benefited from doing more modern day in Odyssey to balance out Origins’ past heavy style as well as a more connected story. Hope to see this with the Viking one coming up 🤞🏼

[@ya2121]

I thought it was a great game. Ancient Greece is so special anyway, and the detail was off the charts. Good story.

[@TheB0sss]

The details are great until you notice they copy pasted half the map around.

[@rpgislife]

I had no idea that Assassin's Creed had a fucking Ten Commandments lol But yeah, I agree with them 100%

[@ManvendraSK]

After watching reviews for phones, electronics, and games, I have learned to trust your own knowledge and interests. These guys criticized AC Origins, which stopped me from playing that in the first place, but one day I bought it and played and found this fun enough.

[@gino1802]

The Cult of Kosmos is what the Templar would grow to be.....

[@nevanr2558]

"8/10" james is hilarious. love the vids

[@tyer1997]

It’s a nice, fair review. I subscribe to you because of your love and knowledge of the AC games and lore. I disagree with you on some things (mostly AC3 and Connor haha) but I appreciate your honesty and the STANDARDS you have for the AC games, because they used to be amazing. Odyssey is a cool game, but the quality and assassins story is still not there.

[@diabetusultrainstinct7737]

i feel like im the only one but i think odyssey is a bloody masterpiece. it has to be one of my favourite AC games

[@GhostInPajamas]

No I agree, idk who you played as but I chose Kassandra and she was one of the most charming and likeable characters I've played in a game in a while, and the dynamic with her brainwashed little brother worked out really well. Also idk if you finished the story but I loved the way it ended I think the first civilization stuff is actually awesome for the first time since the original games.

[@diabetusultrainstinct7737]

i think the real thing they got right was that, to me, nearly all the side missions felt like they had good story and usually felt somewhat worth it in the end. also the map just somehow feels fun to explore, i dont know how or what they did but i know i love it

[@GhostInPajamas]

@@diabetusultrainstinct7737 Exactly, this is something that has been lacking from virtually all other Assassin's Creed games. In others, once you finish the story the game became dull and pointless, but in Odyssey the side quests are fun, thought out, and sometimes lead on their own little storylines with 5 or 6 side quests. And I agree on the map too, they made a beautiful game world that genuinely made me want to complete all the locations and go for the platinum. It isn't by any means a perfect AC game but it's huge steps in the right direction. The music was stunning as well

[@-alitewfeeq4383]

The answer is simple : It's a game of greatness.

[@GLIDGaming]

It’s a great game best one yet 10/10

[@thomas35835]

One more thing I just noticed is that every city or town feels modeled after the same the generic fantasy rpg template. There’s blacksmith and the obligatory guarded areas. But never I felt like ”wow this is what felt walking in ancient Athens” for example. Historical tourism has always been one of the highlights of this franchise for me but this game feels empty in that sense. Even in Origins which I don’t like that much you at least felt you arrived in historical Alexandria that felt living, breathing real city.

[@giomr7923]

Yeah, Unity is a game that really made you feel like you were in the old France. Even when you play the small ww2 fragment you feel as if you were climbing the Eiffel tower during the ww2 era

[@bikkyychaudhry4510]

Your BEST review to date!! Couldn't have agreed more.

[@Se-du7sh]

The game has alot of dilemmas. It's like " It's amazing having such a huge world to explore, yet I am sick and tired of this huge world because of all the back and forth " In my opinion, it is a great game. But when the title says Assassin's Creed I expect Assassin's Creed. Just because there is some first civilization stuff in the game doesn't make it Assassin's Creed. And the most retarded part is that everything that has with the title to do comes with a 3 Episode DLC. But that's my take on it. I just bought it so im occupied until RDR2 releases :P

[@adomasnarbutas9008]

And also how this system is presented to you : Exploring the world to find clues about certain cultist, Then unveiling their identity and finally tracking him down throughout whole Greece. Something similar was done in Origins and other AC games, but this time Ubisoft perfected it.

[@adrianvelasquez5867]

They should create an assassins creed that isn’t in a specific historical moment. Instead, kind of like a bug that mashes many time periods together in a certain place. It’d be interesting

[@zekez952]

The humor just keeps getting better great vid

[@niallbrooks3492]

Im going to pass on it for now but I might get it later. Just hearing what you have say it is everything I thought it would be.

[@Max1990Power]

Yes, it is a great action RPG. And the ending of the cultist/Atlantis storyline prove that it is an Assassins creed game. It would also be great if you made a follow up on your video about a Bayek sequel. You are great when it comes to narratives so it would be cool if you could give us a beginning, middle and ending of the next chapter of Bayek :)

[@definitelyhooman7939]

I know I’m pretty late to this, but you nailed every issue/criticism I had with the game. Just wanted to say good job, and you’ve got a new subscriber.

[@antoniomanaligod4423]

For me this is a good game, a new perspective for AC gamers, I love all the side missions both in origins and odyssey, those question marks on the map are meant to help the player to explore, but the player still has the discretion to explore that part of the map or not

[@turtleztheshitpost3910]

Had to give this review a clap! Great video James, enjoy being blocked by Ubisoft.

[@JoHnSapla7LordSapla9]

Odyssey is a great game. Its is (with RDR2 and God of War) 2018 best games of the year. You really do overthink this. Sales numbers prove that most people think it's the best AC. If it continued to be a vintage AC it would have been discontinued as a franchise and you'd be criticising the lack of creativity. 😐

[@strangebrw1]

Im glad they are expanding the universe and direction. If they strictly followed the 10 commandments you would get the exact same game over and over reskinned which is what was the past criticism. The worst thing the franchise did was to get too bogged down into strictly adhering to only doing specific things and having a linear forced narrative. Odyssey is close enough to be AC and far enough to be an enjoyable change. The best things about Origins had nothing to do with the main story, and that is pretty much true for most of the best games in the franchise. If a strict lore cant hold up past the 3rd game its time to move on rather than get stuck in trying to tick certain boxes, otherwise its just the same game and same story over and over and over.

[@strangebrw1]

​@Yo Momma​I literally never said BF and Odyssey were reskins AT ALL, that was more aimed at ACII, Brotherhood, Revelations etc which is the games everyone keeps going back to as the pinnacle which was 3 full games in a row with the same character, same engine, same gameplay and almost identical locations. There is a big difference between utilizing background Lore and sticking to a specified formula. Sorry its confusing for you. The 10 commandments are not Lore, its formula guidelines and all I am hearing is complaints the "formula" is not stuck to. And using phrases like a developers 10 point guideline from 12 years ago, 11 games into the series, as the "ULTIMATE AUTHORITATIVE PROOF" is literally the saddest thing a fanboy can do.

[@strangebrw1]

Yo Momma I never said BF and Odyssey weren’t great games despite their deviation. They along with Origins and Syndicate are my favourite in the franchise and only Syndicate out of that lot would be said as a rehash of the earlier style. And was trying to point out that sticking to the “10 point formula” doesn’t guarantee a better game. And no it’s not the ultimate authority on anything the owners of the IP can literally do what they want with it. And doesn’t make sense why you are still arguing that the series should stick to the guidelines when u have highlighted some of the best games already part of the franchise didn’t. You can keep the spirit of the originals without going along with every restrictive dot point. The commandments are badly written anyway. No developer would use that language as base development requirements to be met. Still don’t know why fans are using it as “proof” of an argument that doesn’t make sense using evidence which is outdated and currently worthless 11 games in (considering they ditched it over 5 years ago)

[@strangebrw1]

HAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! you have the MOST AUTHORITATIVE OPINION STATING OTHERWISE!!!That is literally the funniest and saddest things I have ever heard. You would make a great lawyer.

[@memecliparchives2254]

Origins had nothing to do with the main story? It had William Miles and Abstergo on it.

[@strangebrw1]

​@@memecliparchives2254 William Miles didnt seem to have any impact on the modern day in Origins, he was just there at the end and then not there for the next game. It made no difference on the quality of the game and was still very easy to disbelieve it is part of the AC universe.

[@CamachoBJJ]

I'm having loads of fun with Odyssey. Mainly because I'm a history buff. That's really why I play AC games. Not so much for the assassin lore. But it being loosely based on history

[@darkshadows6328]

"Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" Well that didn't go over so good with AC Odyssey

[@musicalmami9]

That tenant was created 300 years after Odyssey by Bayek.

[@darkshadows6328]

@@musicalmami9 huge thanks letting me know cause I thought that tenant was for everyone including non assassin's

[@musicalmami9]

It was established in the Hidden Ones DLC for Origins. :)

[@bencaldwell9931]

One of the best games I’ve ever played!!

[@themoonsshineinc.4460]

Slave 7796 stfu

[@spark0420]

“But I’m not an assassins, not any more” 😂😂😂

[@thomasfleetwood7006]

At least I tried... made it a solid 5 minutes into your review.

[@Wveth]

Go to 6:21 for the most interesting part if you're a fan of older AC games.

[@slyte0x674]

Fans:Give us Japan Ubisoft:whats that u want a spartan game that has nothing to do with assassins

[@DRFESTERPUS69]

Pretty much

[@niz167]

I get were the game comes from though. Since they did orgins, they couldn't really do anything Greek timeline wise that involved the assassins and templars since they wouldn't exist for another 400+ years. So storywise it makes sense why the MC kills people too since hes not apart the ethos of the brotherhood. In the end though I dont know because of the time period and what was already set it just seems it be hard for them to create an "AC" game for that time period. I still enjoyed the story.

[@anteriorlobetube]

I find it to be very fun. It's also a game where you have to track down a shadowy organization that is seeking to control the world, which is very AC. But whether that is tacked on or not, I am having a blast, and that to me is what matters in whether I think its good.

[@pepeedge5601]

EDIT: I know that this comment is really long and probably nobody will read it... I agree on many things, but there are some points that I disagree with. The thing that Assassin's Creed lacks in comparison to Witcher is the quality of the side-quests/writing, but I think that it would be ignorance to not acknowledge that the writers for Witcher have more opportunities for good variety since they can add a magical twist to things. But even with this there is not excuse for weak quests. I think they should have put in less quests with more effort put into them. Longer side-stories which are not just 10-15 minute distractions. I think they should have waited with the release until at least early 2019. I think that only exploring time periods with Assassin's and Templars is very restrictive. Look at the sanctuary in AC2, most of those people are not actually assassins. Should we never have games that revolve around/feature them? I think that would be a missed opportunity. No Babylon, on Persia, no ancient China. I think that it is a good idea to explore other setting in the AC universe.But if they are not called actual AC games what should the name be then? The AC universe has no specific name to use. Would it have been better if the name of the game was Odyssey an Assassin's Creed story? Or Odyssey a story set in the AC universe? I mean was there any doubt that in the "normal" sense Odyssey is a spinoff? Because I looked at it always that way. Still I really liked your review and I respect your opinion.

[@Sultan-vj9ll]

Pepe Edge I read it

[@YoshiLupus]

Most of those statues in AC2 were of assassins at the time. Game explicitly called them assassins and states they were some of the greatest of their own kind. Origins and Odyssey retconned that, which goes with his points just fine.

[@jadshokor]

The best review I've ever watched, I agree with you on every point you've made, you're my new best friend haha, subscribed!

[@scrillrock]

This is the best way someone could've described Odyssey ever. That's why I love your videos man, I just got nothing else to say. Keep it up gamer

[@HappyHeretic4]

The only AC game I haven’t played is brotherhood. I’m an avid fan, but I also embrace the change. I cannot stop playing odyssey. It may be almost unrecognizable at times, for an assassins creed title, but a great game is a great game. Let’s hope AC Vikings is great🐐

[@MedIevalCyrax]

The rules or commandments from AC2 restrict what developers can do and its like walking on egg shells,i'm actually glad they ditched that old crap from 2009,things change and evolve over time.

[@LazerzZ]

You can easily change the way a game plays without sacrificeing the fundamentals of tone and lore. Plenty of games do it. To do what Ubisoft do is simply lazy and a lack of care. It can be done, it's not a question of there was simply no way to adapt ac while keeping the lore, tone and focus correct. it's a question of Ubisoft being lazy and simply not caring.

[@MedIevalCyrax]

@@LazerzZ you have to remember people wanted change in AC,if people didn't complain,this game along with origins would've never been made,we would've gotten another syndicate or unity styled game,it's extremely difficult to follow something from 2009,most comics,movies,cartoons and even games ditch old material to create new material that has nothing to do with what happened before,Templar's are mentioned in this game once when layla meets alexios or Kassandra.

[@Oatlis]

@@MedIevalCyrax your right it is hard to make something from 2009 so why not just make a new franchise?

[@strangebrw1]

Yes, yes, 1000 times yes

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@LazerzZ And Origins was that example.

[@thomassams9418]

I really appreciate the way you did this video, and you make a lot of good points. However, some things of note with the 10 commandments you mentioned. Most of them the player could choose to follow. I for example, never kill innocents. It's all about what you as a player choose to do. Which I think is exactly what they were going for. I understand why a lot of people could say it isn't an Assassin's Creed game, but in my opinion they're just choosing to not make it one, yourself included. This isn't meant as an insult at all. I totally see where you're coming from and understand why you feel that way. I simply think you're incorrect and holding yourself back from enjoying something and acknowledging that Assassin's Creed as a whole has simply changed. I like to think of Odyssey as a sort of spin-off prototype for what AC has become, and I really really hope that the future involves more RPGs based directly on the Assassin Templar war. You have to admit that the old format was getting stale, and in my opinion, full blown RPGs that are much more closely involved with the main focus of AC would be amazing

[@1nicko29]

Origins was the prototype. Odyssey is the second RPG style AC already with some improvements and some new short-commings.

[@didiervanvliet7405]

2 different ways to save AC; 1. Sequel of Bayek. 2. AC: Asia (Japan and China)

[@surbhimehta526]

China is done.AC Chronicles

[@LamTran-sz5li]

he meant a real AC game, not some sort of 2 and a half D

[@noskcaj7242]

The RPG assassin games just dont work for me because i feel so weak in the early game, i want to be an assassin not a meat bag in some fancy clothes. I cant find it in me to get through the early game because so much of the world feels locked off by levels and gear.

[@cloudclass1]

I know I'm impossibly late to this party, but this actually just helped me understand why I had fun with this game but felt super unfulfilled

[@alexstockton3024]

AC has provided me with some of my fondest memories within gaming but you cant deny the fatigue it had. I personally think Odyssey is easily the best AC game since Etzios first outing.

[@sofuslee]

"Does the name william miles ring a bell?"

[@filandrianos]

Hahaha He just said that Syndicate is better than Odyssey. You are out of your mind. Odyssey is phenomenal. Im greek and I loved it. The amount of research Ubisoft made is out of this world. The game is excellent. Deal with it haters

[@LazerzZ]

I never said Syndicate is better than Odyssey. I never compared it to any other AC game in terms of it's quality.

[@filandrianos]

@@LazerzZOh then I understood your I ntro in a wrong way. Even though I get what you were trying to say with that whole 10 commandments section I have to say that we can accuse all games of the series in the same way. Not just Odyssey. Sure the apple isnt a magic item but then again Rodrigo Borgia was able to create phantoms of him self physically attacking ezio. Ezio did the same thing. I do agree that odyssey doesn't feel very "assassins creedy" but every game suffers from the same problems after AC 3. Odyssey is an assassins creed game in the same way Black flag is an assassins creed game. As the Assassins vs Templars strugle. I really believe that many people understand allready that Assassins and Templars are just the modern names of the same ancient forces who battle each other. Freedom vs Opression. The names are different in odyssey. Not the nature of the "struggle " just because they arent called Templars or assassins that doesn't mean there werent people who expressed them selves accordingly. I really think that you are very knowledgeable when it comes to assassins creed. I love the series but i do think that yoy will agree that what the game really needs is a proper and cohesive Modern day story. we have to blame the toxic kids who were complaining about modern day for its death. The core of the story was nodern day and the real protagonist was desmond. Every game after Ac 3 tried new things and explored different themes. Im okay with that as long as it makes sense

[@filandrianos]

@Yo Momma have you played odyssey?

[@filandrianos]

@Yo Momma not mad at all : ) Play the game first. Then you can be a negative scrub all you want

[@filandrianos]

@Yo Momma Critisism without knowledge of what you are about to Critisise is stupidity. Keep that in mind and please be silent until you ve played the game. We dont care about your feelings.

[@strangebrw1]

The movie was actually pretty enjoyable, better than most video game movies, they probably wont make another but it could have been a cool trilogy. Overarching stories don't go well past 3rd installments anyway.

[@cityzenblue4500]

I love Odyssey and genuinely love all the other A.C. games. They're not perfect, that would be virtually impossible to achieve. However, the countless hours of fun I've experienced says they're perfect for me. Keep up the good work Ubisoft.

[@ashrafali1022]

Till Rouge I have enjoyed all of the games especially assassins creed 1,2,3,4. Now it feels like a joke I watch videos and reviews about it, it's just not what it used to be. Odeyysey is really just a hard turn about being an assassin. There was goose bums when u played assassins creed 2,3,4. But now u only feel like skipping some stuff. It used to be like a very addictive drug, play and finish it whenever u got time, even if the story is finished I feel like to max out everything and finish it completely. But that's again just not the case now. Ubisoft for God's sake put a bit of ur passion and skill into the next ac game.,we always hope "OK this ac game was a bit shabby but the next one will be great, that guarenteed". Somebody plss make the ac games better... Who will hear us?

[@memecliparchives2254]

Origins was great you know.

[@loreseeker6604]

Ok so you heard him ubisoft, MORE GOOSEBUMPS! Lol whatever that means. You toxic fans crack me up, your like a crying teenage girl.

[@ElDookie0143]

@@loreseeker6604 If you think this person was toxic you clearly can't read.

[@loreseeker6604]

@@ElDookie0143 he has no clear ideas of what he thinks ubisoft is doing wrong, he is crying and whining. How is ubisoft supposed to listen to this garbage? You want ubisoft to improve on something but cant gove them clearly defined ideas.........that is toxic

[@ElDookie0143]

@@loreseeker6604 He was saying Ubisoft lost its spark and what made the other games great and well received. They stopped caring. This person wasn't whining they were voicing their opinions on a game series. This person wasn't writing an essay telling Ubisoft to improve certain gameplay aspects and stuff which is what you want, they were saying the newer games lost their spark and that Ubisoft need to listen to is and actually put CARE into their product. And that's valid.

[@nightwing2804]

You said everything i Feel about this game... love u man

[@geewhite2241]

Dont LazerzZ knows that in the options that he can just take away all hints, question marks, or any type of help so it can feel the way he wants it. I say stop complaining or join/apply to Ubisoft to make AC better. Also, Ubisoft did attempt to make AC: Unity a full RPG back in 2014-15 if I remember correctly but as an app game on your smart phone.

[@smiff513]

Ubisoft should’ve just cut the ten minutes of real world animous stuff in Egypt and Greek and the sync reference stuff and call it a new tittle

[@robsonwaterkemper]

I think you could have seen those rules by other point of view. First of all, the 10 rules were written by a Dev team more than 10 years ago. The changes for the core of the franchise can change, but anyway, let's use them but analyze by other point of view 1. Assassin’s Creed will always tell the story of the secret war between Assassins and Templars The name of the franchise is Assassin's Creed in singular as in the Creed (the system of beliefs) of an assassin (which could be a person with a mindset of an Assassin, who lives by the motto "Nothing is true, everything is permitted") and not plural like Assassins' Creed as in the Creed (brotherhood) of Assassins. So, if the story tells a story of a person who has a mindset of an Assassin and how his beliefs are formed and/or changed, it could be a candidate for a proper Assassin's Creed story. The war between Assassins and Templars could be interpreted as a war between Freewill vs. Control. It doesn't need to be the exactly organizations of the Assassins and Templars. 2. Being an assassin doesn’t make the main character a ruthless killer. He kills, but he has principles and never murders innocents. He avoids collateral damage as much as possible That is a thing that Ubisoft didn't abide, but you as a player could choose to abide. It's not because you don't get a desynchronization because collateral damage that you couldn't do it yourself in the game. It's not like the game is unplayble unless you do collateral damage. And in addition, since you are an "Assassin" by being a person that favors freewill instead of control, but not a member of the Brotherhood of the Assassins, you could be more "flexible" on collateral damage. 3. The war between Assassins and Templars is the foundation of our Franchise story in the past and present Like point 1, the war between Assassins and Templars could be easily translated by a war between Freewill vs. Control 4. The Assassin should always be agile, socially skilled, unbeatable with a blade, and a stylish bad-ass. For what I've saw on Odyssey that item applies, even without social stealth. In past games, I was killed by a lot of enemies that wore blades when the fight was rather difficult. I had to use the win button of smoke bombs so many times to avoid being killed in a sword fight. 6. History should always be portrayed as relevant to our core audience, with facts that tie in to present day common knowledge and edgy modern Art Direction 7. Assassin’s Creed is based on Technology - Nothing is Magical, Everything has a plausible technological explanation. 10. Assassin’s Creed can bend Historical accuracy but cannot create an Uchronia. All those itens are criticized in Odyssey because of Mythological figures being portrayed as real. But assuming that in AC Lore there's a lot of First Civ laying around in the world, wouldn't be logical that a lot of things that we considered as myth and fantastical would have happened as real things fueled by First Civ tech? In the AC Lore there's some examples like Jesus using a Shroud of Eden to perform his miracles. Why not Greek Mythology? About Pegasus and Unicorns, I think it would be considered more as Eater Eggs than anything else, like when you wear an outfit of a previous AC character in a recent AC game. 8. Assassin’s Creed is about digging in a character’s past through their DNA in order to understand what really happened in key historical moments. In previous games you didn't WATCH the ancestor memories, you played them. And as you did that you changed a lot what REALLY happened, even in key events like major assassinations. Even with the Synchronization bonus in later games, you could choose to kill major characters in previous games in a variety of ways and every player did it differently. So, if this was OK for previous games, I don't see a big difference when you choose dialog. If it was OK to choose course of action, why not dialog? I think in Odyssey they bend the concept a lot to justify the gender and dialog choosing but it was a plausible explanation. But the core remains. You are in the present trying to unfold a hidden fact in the past by PLAYING an ancestor memory through a memory SIMULATION. In that simulation that fact would be revealed and you would attain your objective. It doesn't really matter if you PLAYED the simulation exactly as it had happened, only if the way you PLAYED helped revealed the hidden fact you were aiming to unfold. I didn't play Odyssey yet. I'm making this observations by seeing the promotional materials and reviews alone. When I played I will have a more substantiated opinion. Maybe this game really doesn't feel like an AC game. But I think it's not because it didn't follow this 10 AC rules.