Assassin's Creed Odyssey | A Narrative Critique | Luke Stephens

[@Kolket1389]

i think that the fact that a baby (younger sibiling) survived is actually cool think because greek mythology is full of those unbeliavable crazy plot twists and stories

[@RoboGamerNL]

The devs actually confirmed the whole main story (except for the Assassin's Creed Isu stuff etc.) is based on a Greek story

[@Kolket1389]

@@RoboGamerNL i mean the everything in the game is so clear that is historical mytholigy related. If they said that they think of that stoty and missions nobody would believe them

[@andikanntia-james6471]

What myth is it based on?

[@Kolket1389]

@@andikanntia-james6471 im not talking about this particular one, im just saying that things like that happen in greek mythology for example someone to survive that kind of fall or to not die when somone put a spear trough him ....

[@Heldermaior]

The story of Zeus is like that. Sure Zeus mother replaced him with a rock but the principle is the same. Judeo Christian narratives also talk about child sacrifice where the children survives.

[@Virtually_Hidden]

1st of 3 videos? Goddamn Luke your dedication is inspiring. I'm glad we have someone that is passionate about the franchise and not instantly shitting on every new entry. Keep it up man! I'm gonna stick till the end :D

[@ianism3]

well said, except... inspring ;)

[@Bob-je3kx]

same

[@Virtually_Hidden]

@@ianism3 haha damn you got me! Time to make a swift edit

[@unicorntomboy9736]

I preferred AC origins more

[@ArcaneMelodies82]

I had a blast with Odyssey, I love that era it is set in. I had a little more fun in odyssey than I did with origins.

[@BlazingFire9]

@@demetter7936 as an assassin's creed game it really was yes, but as an rpg it was one of the best not gonna lie, but i agree with you.

[@krystofcilek7731]

@@demetter7936 So all the people who have a different taste and enjoyed the game all have an awful taste, got it

[@iPlayerify]

that's one way to describe people who enjoyed the game, there is no such thing as having "awful taste", just gonna leave this here "de gustibus non est disputandum"@@demetter7936

[@NicoGrosso78]

I still don't get why people say the games lost focus on stealth, I mean did they just run into every fort throwing bombs and killing like 50 guards all at once?

[@templar684]

I did that in previous games too.

[@ginjafox9509]

If anything, this game is MORE stealth based. Really more on patience, dedication, and talent. As well having to actually build you character to focus on that aspect of gameplay.

[@NicoGrosso78]

@@ginjafox9509 I actually think is faster than say unity (of you don't spam tools), the systems are simpler and you can get around without the need to assassinate every single guard

[@gbdeck200]

If say revelation is really when the series lost it. 3 expanded the issues but the new combat and 4 nailed the coffin shut Brotherhood sped up combat and made partying easier creating that "press x to win" mentality people look at the old one with

[@DavidToast]

Wait what bombs? I wanna do that? That is what I remember doing in origins but they are missing in Odyssey :( . Or to be precise, only other mercenaries have them...MALAKAS!

[@bigbotzone]

Phoebe getting to the mainland wasn't a coincidence, she was manipulated by Aspascia to steer Kassandra wherd she wants her. It was actually brilliant and was one of the great forward looking story pieces that made the game so memorable to me.

[@andyearnest449]

Gonna be honest, I’m not a gamer in the proper sense of the word. I played Mario as a kid but only beat the gameboy version of super Mario land. never beat any other version. I played Tony hawk for a couple semesters in college. And I dabble here and there with my kids in Minecraft on Xbox one. Besides that, never really played much. But I recently decided to get Xbox Gold on a whim and decided to try this game because I had heard about assassin’s creed by way of the sea shanties in black flag. I also like Ancient Greece, so I thought this sounded like fun. And man….it is incredible. I am about 20 hours in and going very very slowly on easy mode because I have no idea what I’m doing. But I am watching you tube clips and things like that so I can get the best experience. I so appreciate these videos about this world I had no idea about until just a couple weeks ago. Thanks so much for your dedication and great videos. Much appreciated.

[@jirifuschlberger5513]

i like how you said at the start that you dont spoil much but you spoil pretty much everything lol

[@noxi8766]

He said spoiler warning after it xD listen before you complain

[@Allison0261]

6 years later and this is still my favorite AC game and all time game because of Kassandra’s story and the amazing job they did fully fleshing out the world of Ancient Greece which is beautiful and addicting to traverse

[@itsyaboiahmad]

Huge thanks for the in-detail critique Luke. Honestly one of the only channels that put such passion into those videos. And I love how you aren't biased whatever being an AC fan. You give shit and props where and when it is deserved.

[@NRMwalkthroughHD]

i am in love with this game. i have spent more time with this game than rdr2 even though i waited for rdr for so long.

[@frankwest9304]

NRMwalkthroughHD imo RDR2 was disappointing

[@Jim-lg8sf]

The only reason you spent more time because this game has an enormous grind an rdr2 doesn't.

[@Bob-je3kx]

not to correct you in any bad way of form but at around 31:50 you talk about the taking a life part while you are confronted with taking lives throughout the game if you know it happens. Guards will carry their dead comrades to a suitable grave and talk about the person(and it is not the best way, it is acknowledged.) And in the legacy of the first blade DLC you are literally confronted with the option of looking at yourself like a monster or seeing the murder as mandatory. Love the video btw. Kindest regards, Bobby :)

[@nelsondelvalle694]

I don't think he had the DLCs because he didn't talk about any of them

[@michaelhernandez7568]

"Ubisoft had stop since Origins pretending that Assassins Creed is supposed to be realistic and as instead double down on the fun magic stuff that happens I understand why people might not like it but this clearly the way its heading they wanted to have this to be their open world fantasy action RPG they've moved on from the attempts at grounded narrative from years past simply Ubisoft doesn't want you to take Assassins Creed super seriously they want you to play it as a fun open world exploration based title with some RPG mechanics they don't want you to approach it as a present day storyline based narrative driven experience focused on Abstergo The Templars and the idea that there's this new world order that's trying to eliminate free will in humanity that is still at play that's still a theme that foes on in the background of the game but that's not what the game itself is about" This quote explains why I don't like odyssey and the direction that Ubisoft is taking with Assassins Creed. They could of just made another series if this is want they wanted instead they abandoned on what made the series and didn't try to make it better or innovate they just switch genres to appeal different people and abandon their fans that made this series popular

[@brandenwalton2914]

I wouldn't say that this is representative of ubisoft in general. This maybe the case for Quebec and the shareholders of Ubisoft but Ubisoft Montreal is the antithesis of Luke's statement and I don't know if he knows that there are multiple developers for the AC franchise.

[@michaelhernandez7568]

Branden Walton yeah but Ubisoft will look at the praise and sales and will continue this direction no matter what studio

[@chieferik7964]

I'm in the exact camp that he described the game isn't catering to anymore. I loved the new world order shit in the original games, especially the focus on ancestral lineage and the bleeding affect that would occur from being in the animus for too long. I kept playing the games after that stuff faded away but odyssey is where I had to draw the line. It's also the case that I can't stand Ubisoft's sandbox design anymore.

[@violetrose415]

You nailed why I am disappointed in Ubisoft so well. Applause.

[@oliviawilliams6204]

Was it ever supposed to be realistic, seriously. The first game a mind controlling magic orb

[@austinpearson1016]

I play as Alexios cause I like Kassandra better as Deimos

[@Psychol-Snooper]

Alexios also rocks the rousing speeches. Michael Antonakos has one of the commanding voices I've ever heard.

[@sneaky5141]

@@Psychol-Snooper ok, boomer

[@Psychol-Snooper]

@@sneaky5141 Yeah dude, we get it. You hate the elderly.

[@sneaky5141]

@@Psychol-Snooper oh dear, didnt realise you actually were an OAP my bad granddad

[@Psychol-Snooper]

@@sneaky5141 I'm a millennial. I'm just calling you out for being a trash human. (edit - I don't assume you are a bad person, it's just cruel thing to use age to demean people.)

[@stevenewsom3269]

Still havent played it, but I plan to. Will save this video to a playlist and watch afterwards.

[@YuniorGamboa]

Its a great game. Its a mixture of the witcher 3, origins, and black flag.

[@user-gu5dv7vj8r]

Teethed Glory and Injury

[@stevenewsom3269]

@@user-gu5dv7vj8r Thank you! Quite the work of art, that album.

[@lach7324]

Its seriously worth it. It can feel a teeny bit bloated but, most everything feels well built and fleshed out. It trualy is an excellent historical fantasy rpg

[@DNH17]

Don't believe me. Don 't

[@oJhydra]

Absolutely loving the multiple part series!!! Bro this is the next step in your channel!!!

[@brandenwalton2914]

I can't agree with the narrative of Odyssey being the best narrative Assassin's Creed has to offer, Revelations is the best narrative that I believe Assassin's Creed has to offer.

[@SPM0717]

It really wasn't though.

[@brandenwalton2914]

@@SPM0717 If you don't like it be my guess.

[@Joeyplaysguitar1082]

I’ve played them all several times and can’t remember a thing about Revelations that wasn’t part of Altaïr’s plot

[@gotworc]

The nostalgia is talking

[@brandenwalton2914]

@@gotworc In what way? I truly believe that AC Revelations is the narrative to come from AC and if you don't agree at least give a reasonable statement towards why.

[@110160]

I love your work and Joseph Andersons, I appreciate that you post much more frequently. Keep up the great stuff!

[@TheEDBShow]

Oracle: the child will lead to the downfall of Sparta Spartans: YEET

[@cynicthehedgehog385]

TheEDBShow YEET THAT FET(us)

[@JuanGarciaC]

Duuuuuude, I've been waiting this video for daaaaays!!!!!!!! Thanks dude, you make amazing content

[@mikehunt7810]

To the sacred life and not taking a life unless you have to. That's a Tennant of the assassins order The Assassins don't exist yet and so the Tennant doesn't exist

[@slowwave107]

shut up

[@Corvaric]

And yet we are allowed to kill civilians

[@nelsondelvalle694]

@@slowwave107 why are you telling him to shut up, is it because he is right

[@slowwave107]

@@nelsondelvalle694 yeah its right i feel like saying that out loud is kinda cringe

[@CakeMelons]

Fun fact. After accepting task to kill Wolf of Sparta from Elpinor i actually stumbled upon Cyclops torturing Barnabas while being on another quest to free some dude's brother and that way i got myself a ship, so i never knew about 100k drachmee or got a quest from Marcus. And then, after having a talk on a cliff with Nikolaos and deciding not to kill him i also decided not to go to Elpinor with it right away, because dude's creepy and Nikolaos did say smthn about snakes in the grass, and then Branabas said something about oracle in Delphi, that i should go there, point is, i decided to check with the oracle before going to Elpinor and the way it played out is that i learned about CoK and Elpinor's role in it from that quest and so i never had to go take the Wolf's helmet to E. and to lie to him. That's pretty cool story branching i would say, as RPG as it gets. :)

[@acoleyte9337]

personally, i really like the new game design, i just want to see it accompanying the Assassins Creed Storyline. The name of the game is Assassins Creed, my thought process is if you're going mostly forsake the story of the Assassins Creed franchise. Just make a new franchise altogether or call it a spin off. thats what i think they are doing with Gods and Monsters (Which i like). To me its basically like if the devs of halo made a halo game that took place in present day and the story had almost nothing to do with the halo story but it evolved the gameplay. Yeah, the game might be fun and have an excellently told story. but at that point, dont call it halo. Because it isnt. make it a new franchise or at the very least call it a spin off. I like Origins a lot, but Odyssey doesnt fit very well in my opinion.

[@zenbrown7144]

You'll probably like Valhalla.

[@AshleyOlivia90]

Good review! I’ve put more hours than I want to admit into this game and still no where near done. I feel like I’ve kept all the main bits at the same completion level though so my endings should hit one right after the other for the most part. I can’t seem to focus on one thing cause there’s just TOO MUCH in this game. I love it but it’s a lot.

[@tonytang4668]

I killed every single merc on the list I possibly can after Phoebe's death. For me that was the event that disconnected my Kassandra from any sort of compassion and care about the world.

[@lukehande6811]

Your dedication blows my mind away, thank you so much for these amazing critiques

[@tljoshh]

I first subscribed with the AC Unity breakdown you made. And now here we are... Odyssey. How time flies and what a good time to be a Luke Stephen's sub :)

[@Luis-hy8qj]

My favorite game of all time. It was a blast playing it!!!!

[@zoebaggins90]

Same! The only other game I have more than 100 hours invested is Sims 4, lol.

[@pancakewizard12]

As I stumble around youtube looking at content and reviews on games I may want to play for my own channel i found this video. This was amazing! It really opened my eyes to the story of the one assassin's creed game I thought stepped away from the main narrative, but now I want to give it a chance. Thanks so much Luke! This video was awesome. You earned yourself a sub today for sure

[@joeyacevedo5267]

If you ever encounter anyone deeming themselves “ *True Fans* ” ignore them. Allow yourself to enjoy what YOU enjoy.

[@filopride619]

I enjoyed this and Origins and I continue to be a massive fan of the series

[@franklouis612]

Dude since ac1 and ac2 there were many hint and emails that went over the mythical creatures from our history were really ancient thing influenced by pieces of Eden, so the mythical creatures in Origins and odyssey and Valhalla should have been expected

[@sarokey]

Beautifully said actually this video made me realize why I love this game (:

[@immortalscarface6712]

31:00 the reason why the child survived is because Myrrine saved the child. And when she traveled to save her kid, the doctors said that it was impossible and etc. So it’s not just a coincidence or whatever. And, maybe the child didn’t hit the ground, since the priest fell at the same time.

[@immortalscarface6712]

32:30 in the DLC, the protagonist will face the fact that they killed innocent people, or not so innocent people but whom has families, and the protagonist feels guilty for it.

[@immortalscarface6712]

37:00 Well, I get what you mean, but I think it’s a nice touch, because: 1) We know about these mythical stories and beast, but we don’t know how it started, we don’t even know if some of them were real. So it’s kinda fun to think that these beast doesn’t exist because the protagonist killed them- 2) These beasts were like guardians of the secrets of the ancient people, since every time you kill them, you hear a message and get a key. And if you don’t like the 1st point because these mythical creatures doesn’t exist, so it doesn’t make sense to put them in the game, then you can say that: these creatures were created by the ancient people’s imagination, since these beasts disappear like magic or as if they were some sort of living energy After killing them. Idk, it makes perfect sense to me.

[@immortalscarface6712]

41:30 Sadly, I agree with you. The story was great, and I was looking forward for the ending, but I was kinda disappointed. Especially how the antagonist realized that they were wrong and became nice all of a sudden after holding the sword. This part didn’t make sense at all. I thought maybe they saw their mothers and siblings memories, but still..

[@immortalscarface6712]

43: Yeah, agree. That was very disappointing. I wished I could have more conversations or funny quest with them. But the way they did it, it’s almost as if they died. You can’t even talk with them in the ship! They became minor characters all of a sudden!

[@DragonballBlack]

Once I beat Red Dead 2 I'm gonna continue Assasins Creed Odyssey. Weird Flex But Oh Well

[@rondaniels5089]

That's what i just did, I think a lot of people did this too, first we played Odyssey, then moved to Red Dead 2 when it released, but since red dead has no post launch support for the single player, and the majority of AC players don't care about the Online, we end up coming back to Odyssey eventually.

[@SnafuWarrior]

Playing Odyssey after RDR2 is... dunno what to say. It's not satisfying. Especially when you learn to love the ultra-realism, combat and hunting in RDR2, and then you return to Odyssey where you have to mass-kill goats to upgrade weapons, you one-shot kill them and skin from the horse. Combat is faster but much more nonsensical, you beat the crap out of some guy few levels above you and he doesn't even flinch. It's much more of a grind and a chore (funny considering how much i liked doing chores in camp in RDR2). And of course, story and side quests are so dumb compared to what Rockstar had to offer in terms of narrative and characters.

[@goldensperm7182]

Which is better witcher 3 or Odyssey?

[@danparsons1423]

@@rondaniels5089 I thought I was going to do that, but went back to AC after 4hrs of RDR2.

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Golden Sperm The answer is (imo) still W3...I dont know if Ubi can ever surpass W3 if they try to be it so desperately..

[@yeahnahman4217]

Being honest I never went into this game excited for another AC I was excited for a epic Greek adventure and that’s what I got so I was happy

[@charlessimons2851]

At the 30 minute mark when you talk about the killing, they address that in the DLC in a pretty cool way I think

[@GamersOver30]

I did notice that if you go back to the cave where you kill him later, even after the first time you meet Demos, Elpenor still has his head on his body.

[@seekerofgnosis7967]

they should have just called the game 'Odyssey'.

[@croneryveit9070]

Best explanation of people's problem with this game is this comment. It's just another RPG now, not an assassins creed game.

[@samidejong106]

So true

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

@@croneryveit9070 exactly, the parkour is stupid

[@FellPanda]

But it's an assassin's creed game

[@nelsondelvalle694]

@@Doctor_Straing_Strange the parkour is better than any game before

[@gaming4life106]

Amazing video,I can see there's alot of work put into it.I instantly subscribed and will be watching the rest of your videos.Keep up the great work.

[@rodri_merli27]

Let me tell you something. I practically stopped playing AC after Black Flag. The others that came after never caught my atention as the previous ones did. The games looked to me sort of RPGs that weren't completely RPGs, so I felt that something was missing, idk. But the, Odyssey came out. I had so little hopes on it that I didn't even watch trailers or gameplays or anything related to it. I wasn't at all eager, I was expecting RDR2 and was in my 2nd playthrough of Witcher 3. But then, I found it on Skidrow&Reloaded and decided to download it just to give it a try (yeah, I downloaded a cracked game, bite me). And it blew me away so hard that I haven't stopped playing it since day one. I played about 5 hours of the cracked one then I decided that the devs and Ubisoft really deserved my money and purchased the Ultimate Edition on Steam. Perhaps this is owed to my so-little expectations with this game. Perhaps it's owed to my devotion to Greek history and mythology. But I sincerely believe it's owed to the real masterpiece this game is. I'd give it 11 out of 10 any day. And my personal recomendation would be Alexios. Maybe because I've been playing with him and created a bond with the character. But I also believe Michael Antonakos pours a bit more emotion to the character. Melisanthi is amazing as well, and I also loved her as Kassandra and Deimos. But what really got into Alexios was 1) "did he hurt your feelings?" and 2) the first part with The Wolf.

[@voiavictor]

you should had seen origins then, it really blew out of the park when it came out

[@killertheranger8183]

@@voiavictor Ya same here, honestly origins just always had that "magic" feeling again. That feeling the original game's had. Idk odyssey really felt just like a plane RPG to me. But That's just my opinion.

[@rodri_merli27]

@Victor Voia idk, when Origins came out I kinda liked it, played it, watched a few gameplays, but it didn't strike me as hard as Odyssey has. Something about Bayek didn't captivate me much, and I found the story to be a bit confusing and lacking. It's a great game, of course, but to me Odyssey is untouchable right now.

[@killertheranger8183]

@@rodri_merli27 I can respect that opinion. Though i felt that Bayek was a great protagonist in origins, and one of the best characters in the series. But out side of that Odyssey is really fun to play, and I'm glad you like it as much. 👍Though i have play both, i do still personally prefer Origins. Felt more solid, and knew what it wanted to be. Odyssey has great things, but felt it was all over the place, from story, gameplay, world, etc. But that's just my opinion. It's a Good game, maybe a Great one.

[@rodri_merli27]

As I said, I might be baised big time by my sheer veneration of Ancient Greece that I can be blinded to a few things, that's pretty much possible lol Odyssey imo is the beginning of a new era for Ubisoft, and if this is the beginning I can't wait for the rest.

[@TheYvesbn]

YES finaly ! I was waiting for this video

[@Die4Gesichter]

Great video! What are your thoughts on Odyssey's DLCs? Especially the Atlantis DLC?

[@TheLegoJungle]

22:37 This entire cutscene is absolutely brilliant. Dialogue, story, acting, humor, all of it!

[@rondaniels5089]

Finally a real unbiased critique by someone who knows how to do them right, unlike some "real" fans like Lazerzz or Tynamite who show clear amounts of bias simply because Odyssey is not a Bayek sequel made by Ashraf's team. Your critiques are on a league of its own.

[@nikmede]

Same they also did comparison between Odyssey and Origins and instead of praising some of the stuff Odyssey Did better (like combat system or side missions) they dismissed those by saying that they were unchanged

[@brandenwalton2914]

@@nikmede What's so different about the combat between Odyssey or Origins? They are the same with slight differences that doesn't exactly make it's combat better than Origins. Regarding the side missions, I would say that it's structured better and with more distracting content that can be ignored if you so pleased.

[@titanicww2345]

Yeah they are so toxic with an unhealthy obsession with a poor to average character Bayek. But hey their opinion.

[@nikmede]

@@brandenwalton2914 abilities really changes the game and it's almost like of you have 12+ new moves to use instead of just light and heavy attack. I found myself using the bow way more and easily in Odyssey than in Origins and that allowed me to have an even more variuos combat. Also, in Origins you were basically a God in the end since the abilities pumped every your stats. In Odyssey you have to carefully choose armour and weapon and you can't maximes every stat. This makes the game more challeging even after the end

[@voiavictor]

@@nikmede Lmao I used the living shit out of the bow in Origins since I played on deathmatch from minute 1, so dunno what you smoking.

[@cityzenblue4500]

Keep up the great work Luke, fantastic content. Subscribed really quickly after stumbling upon an A.C. critique.

[@sinabayat3654]

I love the way you play with words!

[@dianaferreira9674]

Always exited to listen to your reviews!

I think that the mayor problem with the game (wich some people might look over but to me is what drags the game from being excellent) is the poorly combination between gameplay, story and lore. The game cannot do a perfect merge of this three and it shows a lot, and to me, someone who has start with the saga seens the beginning and likes more story-base games, that is a really big problem. There are moments when it shows that the game could had a more deep story and a more strong connection with the lore, but utterly it's the gameplay who has the spotlight and sometimes it kinda ruins a lot of potential, like the Phoebe scene or the endings (Or this past controversy with the DLC). And this wouldn't be such a big problem to me if I didn't knew that is possible to have this perfect combination betwin those three things. I would take a skilled writer to do it, something that Ubi Quebec have shown they lack of.

[@Elijah-qp5nh]

I loved the Legacy dlc because the villains bring up how many people you killed and your character starts to question himself.

[@bexby99]

I LOVED this game and was baffled that other fans of the series couldn’t see how amazing it was! Great video.

[@sjneow]

It is a good game. But it violates tons of rules of the world/lore setup by the original assassin's creed creators.

[@ivancintra1680]

Wow! I loved the video! You are amazing man!

[@brandenwalton2914]

I'm a bit iffy on Luke's statement towards the end of the video regarding what Assassin's Creed was meant to be, or what ubisoft wanted it to be. The creator of the game Patrice Desiliet, by all intents and purposes, wanted an open world game that gave us, the player, the ability to explore the scenery of the whatever time period we were visiting to give us a better look at what the world was like during whatever time period. Now whether or not he wanted the game to go towards being a RPG, I dont know but with the games that he and his team developed I would say that his main focus was on linear based games semi RPG like titles that had a clear, overarching goal for where the franchise was headed. I don't believe that Luke's statement is representative of what the creator of the franchise envisioned but is representative of the companies goals to make as much money out of the franchise as they can and not because they care about the franchise, much less the fans of this franchise.

[@jazzy1159]

I love your videos please keep making them!

[@alexissalinas2469]

Your Channel and Videos have helped me so much in understanding video games like never before and I just wanna say thanks a million for that!

[@Nesque]

One part I found really intresting was what ending you got when, I got the atlantis one first, then the family one and lastly the cult one, and to me it felt really natural, so really interesting and subjective.

[@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185]

Only luke could get me to watch an hour long critique of a game that I know I'm not gonna buy anyways

[@jschaefonator216]

A very well done review, good sir. You obviously put a lot of thought into this.

[@QMMarc]

Honestly, talking about ludo-narrative, thing is, AC always had an out. Especially now, when you remember that the Animus is now basically a game console. Not only that, it's almost like a company of game consoles that take the real life stuff and ''bend'' it for fun right? I always assumed that there's embellishments done in these memories, since they aren't 1 to 1 memories like Desmond. It's like, Abstergo is Ubisoft making games and stuff, I thought that was what they were telling me in Black Flag basically, or that's just how I read it. That they changed the boring parts with ''oh fight a minotaur'' instead of ''then she went into this weird cave and found that piece of bullshit, wow players gonna hate this add a boss fight here''. I dunno, my head cannon I guess.

[@gamefan987]

I know I'm late but you are wrong. In AC 1 to 3 wr had the animus that showed REAL history. Then in AC 4 and Rogue we have been reliving the REAL history so they can create the game, we have not been playing the edited game. In AC Unity and Syndicate you are playing the game (inside a game) but the assassins hack it and send you the REAL history. In Origins to Valhalla Layla has her own Animus that should be exactly same as the old ones but more compact. So again, it's REAL history. Only AC game where it'd not real history is Liberation, there you have to unlock the REAL history. So no, thete is no such excuse.

[@QMMarc]

@@gamefan987 I'm not wrong, I said they have an ''out'' , and that it'd be cool to have this ''Abstergo reflecting Game companies'' thing, I didn't say that it was something they were doing from day 1, just that it'd be a neat swerve.

[@Corvaric]

I do HATE that we can choose things in this game which canonically the animus can never do since it only relives memories, not make them

[@HellYeah070]

The intro must be a joke, to call this game the magnum opus of the series comes with the clear intetion to make everybody laughs.

[@arthurdealmeidacampos3613]

Excellent video! Waiting for the next parts!

[@shalaskaja452]

I remember being so excited than I heard that Odyssey would take place in Greece with Spartans and all that before realising that all this happened BEFORE Origins where you see the origin of the creed and I still feel kinda unattached to the game being an assassins creed game when there’s no creed yet - I haven’t played but for me it feels hard to look at it as an assassins creed game this way

[@nikmede]

Do you know that Bayek wasn't the only creator? In India a woman named Iltani created another brotherhood and she was the one that killed Alexander, and there was another sect in China previous to the one of Bayek. The fact is that the idea of the assassins wasn't thought only by Bayek and there were also other people who created their organizations to secure freedom. Darius also had another one who was Later destroyed. This probably happened to many previous societies that existed before

[@brandenwalton2914]

@@nikmede No one is arguing that there weren't precursors to the assassins, his statement was about Odyssey and how the game doesn't feel like an AC game.

[@nikmede]

@@brandenwalton2914 But he says that it doesn't feel like an AC because it was set before Origins

[@brandenwalton2914]

@@nikmede Well for one it barely has anything to do with the assassin/templar conflict, which is and should be a staple for an AC game. Second, this game can literally be ignored in terms of lore and whatever plans this franchise has for the future, which is none by the way. But regardless of all I've said, I interpreted it as this game barely having any resemblance to AC and the core pillars of the franchise and would work better as a game devoid of AC.

[@killertheranger8183]

@@brandenwalton2914 Yup you're honestly right. It's doesn't feel like AC game, more like a RPG fantasy game. So If you go into it, with that mide set, (like i did) then it's enjoyable. But if you can't get the whole them breaking the AC lore and how odyssey mess it all up stuff out of your head while playing, then it's not worth it. It's a fun game, but if you don't turn off you brain while playing it, than all the bad stuff that comes with it are alot more noticeable.

[@johnrogers-thorn6504]

Excellent Luke; really enjoyable.

[@NUSensei]

I have to admire your commitment to giving this game a thorough discussion. I agree with the points you made and I personally do like the direction the series is taking. The gameplay has to evolve to suit the market and climate, and the stealth gameplay, in my opinion, was not ageing well. Your conclusion at the end was a little odd though. You stated that Pythagoras' monologue is overlaid with clips from Syndicate and Odyssey, the last games the team worked on. But the sequence uses scenes from all of the mainstream AC trailers, and includes Origins. I'm not sure what conclusion you were leading up to in terms of a possible real-world shift in Ubisoft's design philosophy from this sequence.

[@Kenmiester2012]

I think you may have been looking a bit too far into the Cultist Ending, Luke. I don't think that was supposed to be anything extraordinarily deep or a message from Ubisoft itself. It was just a flash-forward of the consequences of Kassandra's (not Alexios, because canon) actions, which lead to the events of Origins and the rest of the series. It shows _every_ Assassin's Creed games' setting, not just games that this team had worked on. It was a 'this is what _will_ happen' sort of deal. Basically, in destroying the Cult of Kosmos, she rid the world of one of two fundamental powers; Chaos. In doing so, she allowed it's opposite; Order, the chance to come in and take absolute hold in the form of the Persian-born Order of the Ancients. By eliminating the Cult, she inadvertently started the Assassin/Templar war, which has spilled far more blood and ended more lives than the Cult alone would have. While destroying the Cult may have been the right thing to do in the short term, making her a Hero of her time, her actions have the consequences of dooming the Earth to an eternity of bloodshed and war.

[@kotonizna]

I have no other word for this game but gorgeous. Drop-dead gorgeous, actually.

[@hyenahammock451]

Everyone in the game is just drop dead

[@merikijiya13]

Especially Aspasia 😍

[@JohnnyVY]

imagine alexio/kassanda has been behind all future assassins' achievments just because of the staff

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Im on the side that odyssey is a good game by its own but as an assassin creed game its not. It was the same with dmc: devil may cry definitive edition being a decent game but a terrible devil may cry game This is just a personal opinion and it doesnt stop me from enjoying origins and odyssey. I just hope that games after these get better as time goes on

[@hogexd]

I just started playing Odyssey after finishing Origins. I really feel so far, that it’s in many ways an improved version of Origins, which itself is already a great game. Great video dude! I tend to listen to these while I play AC lol

[@kabayong_longgadog6969]

i can never imagine alexios being the bad guy

[@CoyMcBob]

great points. I'd like to point out that in the first dlc how good of a man the main character is is actually dealt with well

[@capwolfster]

your multiple ending complaint sounds like a personal bias. when i played the game, i did everything as it was available. so i killed the cultist as they were revealed, killed the mythical beasts as i made it to their islands, and would only move on to the family missions once i couldnt find any more cultists. doing it this way made the story seem very cohesive. especially if you follow it up with the dlc.

[@JENX1976]

I played the first two assassin creed games on the ps2. Didn't care for the rest of the series. I gave Odyssey a try because it said that it was based on the witcher 3 gameplay. I play mostly stealth. I now have over 1000 hrs playing it and still enjoying the game.

[@BangingMash]

I just cant get past the fact that they not only disregard parts of the lore of Assassins Creed, but it also has nothing to do with Assassins Creed at all. No Templars or Assassins. No hidden blade, no white hood. Its also clear they are still clueless on how to give meaning to the modern day storyline. I just cant take Odyssey as a respectable entry into the Assassins Creed franchise.

[@suyashbhagwat5615]

Well it was before all of that Assassin and Templar stuff right ?

[@BangingMash]

Suyash Bhagwat Exactly, so what relevance does it have?

[@suyashbhagwat5615]

@@BangingMash Since it was before all that, they are probably trying to set up the history of Assassins and Templar's.

[@BangingMash]

Suyash Bhagwat But that was what Origins was about.

[@suyashbhagwat5615]

@@BangingMash Shit well then my bad.

[@Relatyvity]

This game is a prime example of something that I rather admire than love...

[@melaniemartin3303]

I never liked the other AC games. I absolutely love this one. (87 hrs so far) I can't wait for the next game.

[@dillonn3918]

If a gamer didn’t know about assassins creed odyssey but has played all other assassins creed games and you told them to play this game and did not tell them it is the new assassins creed there’s a good chance they would never know they are playing an assassins creed game, does that put into perspective why people say this isn’t assassins creed

[@gbdeck200]

This

[@abdlhmdx]

To be honest, The moment I saw Deimos, I knew that I should've chosen Kassandra.

[@TheEDBShow]

Todoroki Touya Same

[@HieronymousLex]

The moment I heard him is when I realized I really fucked up. But bayek was so fucking awesome, I was hoping for someone like him

[@HyperionStudios]

Love how you nailed the whole "It's not a real AC game" debacle. I agree with you 100%. Been playing through AC3R and the combat, despite being the most fun and a spectacle, you could 2 button press your way through 2 dozen men easily. Sure you can do the same in ACO but it just feels more tedious. Is that a fautl on the combat of Odyssey? Probably; but, it also helps to reinforce that I would rather stealth my way through in spongy enemies in ACO than calmly try and trot through in AC3 unless forced to.

[@joeyacevedo5267]

Yeah it feels great at first, and it's more style over substance. But when it gets to a point where I can literally get like 20 guards on me in Havana & kill them all by just spamming two buttons, yeah...

[@Rahul_G.G.]

odysessy is like real life thiere is never satisfaction

[@areallyawsomename]

Holy shit I didn't even know 4k was a possible option for video quality....

[@blivion7203]

I really want to make sure..... Does the video contain any spoilers?

[@LukeStephensTV]

YES. If you are on the fence or have not finished it, go play first! I'll be spoiling all the endings!

[@blivion7203]

Luke Stephens Thanks

[@ramiromayorga_]

@@LukeStephensTV I'll be back

[@hyenahammock451]

My favorite part was in the DLC The First Blade, the main character sit down and realises that he/she is a monster and killed so many people

[@justiny2446]

I thought Alexios's Voice Actor did a better job than Kassandra.

[@marcoolivier5594]

Been waiting for this one! Thanks 😁

[@samuraigaming4975]

I'm a veteran so I play hardest difficulty💪🏽

[@volumedogs6422]

Even hard is too simple.

[@mahi327]

Volumegod not rlly lol...try playing on nightmare when even an enemy just 1 level above you can kill you in 1 swing.

[@AndrewCanfieldAFT]

I've been looking forward to this video

[@evo7390]

The main reason I don't play Ubisoft games anymore: they think that putting a lot of collectibles in the game will make the game better. How about making better stories and gameplay instead of making me collect all kind of useless stuff and walk at least 50% of the game doing nothing important

[@berice3603]

I’ve been really looking forward to this been watching since your origins critique

[@danielprosser6076]

What?? Nah man origins was way better in my opinion. The story was more appealing, the character was brilliant The game play was amazing with the shield and bow was more defined for me I started on origins and I fell in love with it, I was so hyped for oddysey. But then I was so disappointed

[@killertheranger8183]

100% Agreed 👍dude. I loved origins, as well.

[@danielprosser6076]

@@killertheranger8183 I guess some people don't review things properly aha

[@killertheranger8183]

@@danielprosser6076 Haha ya so true, though I'm still glad "Luke Stephens" likes Odyssey. Everybody has there favorite. Though it's definitely not the best AC game. Lol

[@ADL21]

oh this is so refreshing. It's nice to hear in depth talk about the game and story beyond "it's not assasisn's creed cuz ac 2 said" or the like.

[@CC42_]

very good game that's hurt by the obvious inclusion of an over abundance of grindy side content. There are so many fetch quests that it literally makes it hard to figure out what yo do next. Bloated.

[@RGBJammal]

This video accurately portrays my sentiment towards AC, thank you.

[@LXV-e9d]

Being completely honest I don’t think this game has any major flaws where in the case of RDR2 there are very clear major flaws

[@parkjv1]

When the King regrets not taking his son fishing and you select the Cassandra character, the son is just a baby.

[@03abhaydeshmukh37]

I kinda dont like it and has no excitement as Origins. I am a huge Assassins Creed Fan. So, do i need to go for Odyssey or can I skip this like Syndicate? Please suggest

[@Virtually_Hidden]

"Huge Assassin's Creed Fan"

[@03abhaydeshmukh37]

Virtually Hidden ugh... guess so. Loved the series. Played all of it. Just didnt really enjoyed Unity and Syndicate. Unity because of poor graphics problems and Syndicate because... you know why

[@Virtually_Hidden]

@@03abhaydeshmukh37 Unity glitches was a 2014 problem. It's been 4 years and having played it recently, there are almost none and the ones that do appear are negligible. Unity's story was shit but the gameplay is the best the series has done with the parkour and combat coupled with a wide range of customization. Then Syndicate fixed Unity's problems for the most part so no 'I don't understand why'

[@03abhaydeshmukh37]

Virtually Hidden I really expect more of Arno but I still have the game totally updated but it stills has problems. Anyways, Arno really changed the way we really look at AC series

[@reecebutler2331]

Brilliant video as always.

[@tylerh2548]

19:07 oh hey Jake Gyllenhaal cameo

[@Seventh7Art]

430 hours into Odyssey and with the upcoming Story Creator Mode, I am aiming at ........thousands of hours, over the next decade.

[@db1416]

dude...get a life,or play better games.

[@lonedragon_skg90]

For me this game is just simply amazing This is definitely the right direction for the series Best game in the series in my opinion

[@HieronymousLex]

SUPER SAIYAN GOD HARAMBE the almighty gaming king well citizen Kane is shit, and you’re a herd follower, so we can disregard your bad opinion

[@eFlower13]

In the last battle with Deimos while Kassandra says" This is for Phiobe!" and "This is for Brasidas!" it did touch me.