Assassin's Creed Odyssey | Why Bigger Isn't Always Better

[@vanillagorilla3980]

This man hates Odyssey more than Ubisoft hates Splinter Cell.

[@IlMemetor72]

And LazerzZ hates Odyssey more

[@karlcoulson8739]

Hahaha true that's what nostalgia does. Jayvees latest vid on Odyssey sums the game up perfectly watch here if u like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naawgJWjqdtoatU while my man master assassin here just hates on Odyssey as it's the least ac type game in the franchise 😂

[@AndrewsArt78]

@Ciel Phantomhive Gokuson you should look up what objective fact means. If even one person enjoys odyssey than your statement is a subjective opinion not an objective fact. And many people enjoy the game.

[@twixo9562]

@@IlMemetor72 ma man so upset, that he is commenting from grave

[@IlMemetor72]

@@karlcoulson8739 so what's your point?

[@the.nerd58]

I think the biggest problem with the "new" Assassins Creeds is that they just don't feel like Assassins Creed games I feel like they are just random mediocre RPGs in different settings.

[@SimonPhungChannel]

Yeah. And people who like RPG sees this as a good thing and like it because it's their genre of preference, and have no realisation or feel that it's missing the soul of what made it great. Because of that, it's a bad game IMO.

[@SamJohnRO]

But the fact is it's not even a good RPG! I've never felt like any of my decisions affected the story in any way. You can just skip through all the dialogue and end up with the same result as if you were actually "deciding". But all this said, it still had good stealth, cool assassination abilities, a decent skill tree and fun combat, it was a fun game to play. Boring and repetitive after a while but still fun. Valhalla on the other hand has nothing of that, it feels like every task is designed to take you longer to complete just to stack up the hours you spend in the game: Wanna open a chest? Better look for a key. Arrived to the destination area of a mission? Better remove the marker that shows you where you need to go so that you're forced to pull out your otherwise useless raven to see, that'll squeeze another 10-20 seconds of gameplay. Finished a part of the mission? Better ride your horse half a world away from where you are now, for no reason just because the NPC randomly teleported there even tho the story mentioned jack shit about them moving. It's like Ubisoft knows that at this point they can just throw any shitty game at us, as long as it has the AC brand slapped onto it, we'll buy it.

[@laujack24]

I like origin, I delete odyssey after 30 hours in. It's a grind fest, and repetitive as fuck. Specially hate that it doesnt even feel like AC game. Wouldn't bother with another ac at this rate.

[@IlMemetor72]

Mhm

[@IlMemetor72]

@@SamJohnRO precisely!

[@TheHighGroundItself]

"It really makes you feel like a demigod" Best Game Ever 10/10 IGN

[@TheHighGroundItself]

"And it has a little something for everyone"

[@xboxuser8782]

lol

[@nestormelendez9005]

Too much demi not enough God

[@zicuvalentin2251]

never forget that the coolest games in humanity where the fun is maximum will be just these games 1.odyssey ... fun epic 2.origins 3.batman arkham knight 4.horizon zero down 5.metal gear 5. 6.mad max

[@justenjoy9545]

@Red assassin Gaming444 No human can call odyessy the best game ever when

[@badqualityfrog9367]

Ac odyssey is the only ac games that actually offended by how bad it was for an ac game. It’s really sad that Ubisoft went from assassins to demi gods

[@proritzissweaty7392]

Best game in this serie no 🧢

[@anomalousgaming9577]

I disagree, Valhalla had an atrocious leveling system whereas Odyssey allowed players to deviate and create whatever build they want. As far as I know Odyssey is the only game that allows this. Additionally, Odyssey didn’t try and be something it’s not, if you truly want an “Assassins Creed” experience I would suggest playing the first one.

[@badqualityfrog9367]

@@proritzissweaty7392 if it’s your favorite I’m don’t have any reason to hate on you

[@IlMemetor72]

@@proritzissweaty7392 i wonder if you played the other games for you to have made such a dumb statement, unless you're a troll

[@proritzissweaty7392]

@@IlMemetor72 i played every single one lmao

[@ariya2940]

I mean it was empty, but cities like spartan and athens were beautifully designed.

[@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667]

Odyssey is literally nothing but a bloated, oversized, grind-ridden smorgasbord of a game that somehow manages to be both full and empty at the same time.

[@fatdoraemon2069]

You could rename the game to "hisory bits:odyssey" and nothing would change

[@EM-dv5qz]

I’m enjoying odyssey right now. But these criticisms are valid

[@arifsalahudin6673]

How's ur first battle with high level 🐔? 😂

[@mohammadismail7599]

@@arifsalahudin6673 i also had great time with odessey....i didnt knw people hated it..lol...now if valhalla is better then odessey then i will must play it

[@Blacklungs-Sanji]

when you really need to level up and your about level 20 ish already, Go to the Gladiator arena on the bottom right of the map... good xp

[@EM-dv5qz]

@@Blacklungs-Sanji nice thanks!

[@Blacklungs-Sanji]

@@EM-dv5qz no problem homie

[@1313fina]

The fact that I can hear snippets of "Ezio's Family" in the background while looking at Odyssey visuals breaks my heart.

[@zicuvalentin2251]

never forget that the coolest games in humanity where the fun is maximum will be just these games 1.odyssey ... fun epic 2.origins 3.batman arkham knight 4.horizon zero down 5.metal gear 5. 6.mad max

[@heruuuuu]

@@zicuvalentin2251 ah yes, odyssey… fun epic

[@Stumptdragon5]

@@zicuvalentin2251 Scarely I can't tell if you're joking or not

[@rajeevkunapareddy1182]

@@zicuvalentin2251 its very confusing if ur joking or not.

[@IlMemetor72]

It makes me wanna drive a fucking knife through my head

[@Ben-dd6tn]

Never thought I’d see an assassin fighting Ancient mythical Greek beasts

[@jasons2199]

Isn't it awesome?

[@IlMemetor72]

You're not even an assassin wtf

[@IlMemetor72]

@@jasons2199 no. No its not in assassins creed. Go and play god of war, if thats your argument

[@yaboykev5627]

@@IlMemetor72 fr

[@jasons2199]

@@IlMemetor72 the game got better after those changes only some people who are obsessed with the old ac games can't accept that

[@colinstephens4378]

It's crazy how critics praise the game for being so large when it's not even a good thing

[@dillanphillips8211]

Maybe you should talk about Immortal Fenix Rising next since Odyssey was essentially that games beta you had to pay for

[@reignzgamez1475]

Assassins creed odyssey in a nutshell: wtf was the piont? Edit: does anyone else recognize how bad most of the voice acting is in this game? Except for kassandra but her voice acting even felt out of place at a few parts.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Kassandras voice acting isnjjst as bad. Why do people try to convince themselves that shes okay.

[@nightphenomena8581]

I do. It seems nobody is actually taking their role seriously at times, and it doesn't help that the general tone of the game is not as serious as other assassin's creed games. People shit on Alexios VA for sounding "cartoony" without realizing he's the perfect fit for a game full of ridiculous stuff (Alcibiades and his lines. Do i need to say more?) and poorly executed drama.

[@AmericanVenom6]

I think that the writing isn’t that bad but acting is very cringe and “happy and shiny”

[@reignzgamez1475]

@@AmericanVenom6 well yea the acting is really bad but the script is also horrible. "Yah cause I'm testicillies!!!"

[@stepkickking9868]

Valhalla also left me asking “what was the point?” The story does nothing to move the franchise forward. It was all a waste of time.

[@saybi8348]

When he said master demi god I laughed so hard that I damn near pissed my self

[@2kdegenerate708]

I've taken a different approach to the AC series. I didn't grow up playing them so I had no loyalties or nostalgia for the old games. I started by playing the in chronological order, starting with Odyssey and I actually enjoyed the game as an open world ancient Greece game. I have played Orgins, Valhalla, AC1 and am currently in AC2. AC1 was not very engaging in my opinion and I actually didn't like it but I played so I can get the full AC narrative. I am liking AC2 right now as I am halfway through the game so hopefully I can actually fall in love wit these old games the way AC fans do. I am most looking forward to playing AC3 for some strange reason, and Unity. I actually loved Valhalla and Orgins and know its good for an open world game that really should not be apart of AC.

[@michaeltaylor815]

The good thing with RDR2 having a large map is that as the story progresses it will take the player to each and every part of the map, with actual missions and story-tellings there, traversing ACOd's map just feels...boring

[@AFT_05G]

RDR2 map is smaller than both Odyssey and Origins but really edges them easily in overall quality.

[@Steezealways]

Rdr2 has open world stuff that happens idk if ac has that haven’t been playing the newer titles lately so don’t quote me

[@m00rtin4]

sure RDR2 makes great use out of this if u play the story as it should be. But if u play as a free roamer almost from the start, in the end -RDR2 and its mission really becomes more of a chore than an experience of excitment. Odyssey is designed for u to explore from the start and not follow a clear linnear narative. For me that makes ACO truley one of the greatest games iv ever played.

[@FadiMARc]

​@@Steezealways nope it doesn't just goofy missions

[@Steezealways]

@@FadiMARc damn rip that player base I just know yall be bored as hell

[@TigerChamp99]

AC Odyssey is definitely quantity over quality

[@trinityhyper8974]

That's the whole Ubisoft recipe.

[@TigerChamp99]

@@trinityhyper8974 But Odyssey is next level. I'd rather settle for a WD2 sized map.

[@MultiKamil97]

Nah, that would be Valhalla. Odyssey at least had some interesting places to visit. In Valhalla though every mystery is repetitive and boring. You have nothing like stacking stones or destroying the curse activities in Odyssey and it already makes even 100%ing it much more enjoyable.

[@kjragg1099]

Red Dead Redemption 2’s open world was amazing. On my second play-through I honestly prefer exploring the world instead of doing the boring story missions. Exploration feels so organic and the world feels truly alive. Even the NPC’s are written so well that they feel like they actually belong in this world and have a purpose which makes encounters so much more interesting. It’s just such a rich experience all round. Odyssey just doesn’t come close.

[@AFT_05G]

Boring story?Are you out of your mind you little shit?

[@kjragg1099]

@@AFT_05G I said boring story missions. Not boring story. I’d rather go around exploring than slogging through rockstar’s painfully outdated level design again.

[@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502]

true, i'm busy playing rdr2, the story is lackluster vs the first game. the first is also better

[@joshyboy474]

RDR2 has a bit of a barren world for online, but as someone who hasn’t played much of the single player I can’t speak to its quality in that regard

[@AGboiii]

No matter how much I dislike AC Odyssey But I need to agreethat Leonidas opening and other scenes were my one of the favourite scenes in the series

[@HedOnFire]

I realize the game is repetitive, but I can’t help but feel my heart flutter every time I play this as I’m completely reminded of the hills, trees, mountains, sounds and waters of Greece (I am half Greek and travel there often). They’ve aesthetically captured it so well…I’m probably one of the only people who enjoys it primarily for that reason xD I also really appreciate the amount of love and accuracy that went into replicating so many aspects of Ancient Greece.

[@rohit_parashar]

Thanks for making a new video on Odyssey, I like reading butthurt comments.

[@re-com1236]

I just got Odyssey a couple weeks ago with the RPG trilogy set because I started playing the AC games during Quarantine, and I can barely play it for an hour a day because it's just soo boring. Origins was interesting and the XP gaps between levels weren't that large. It only started to feel grindy at the end of the game, which made sense. I'm on level 10 and I'm intimidated by the almost 10,000 XP points to get to the next level so I can get to the next main quest.

[@yaboykev5627]

Uh your kinda late

[@horizon5856]

It is true, and especially if ur coming from origins it's really overwhelming, but don't forget that u also get a lot more XP for everything u do in odyssey. The levels require more XP but you also get more XP. So I don't think they really makes a difference

[@Highbudget]

Love this game and the world, yes it's big and overwhelming while doing the story but once you've done the story and most side missions you start to appreciate the world much more just from an aesthetic point of view

[@sergius8495]

I absolutely love your vids recently, their quality increased so drastically! Love it :D

[@rickblaine9670]

I've had a weird relationship with Odyssey. Since I usually don't play RPGs, I had not enjoyed Origins that much. I still tended to play it like a classic AC. Then Odyssey came along, so of course I was forced to get into the RPG mindset in order to get through it. Which I did, and I even liked it. Only problem is, then I returned to Origins with my improved knowledge of RPG mechanics... and oh boy, I enjoyed it SO much more than Odyssey.

[@CollectionOfCells]

I'd rather not make this video if I had to play odyssey again.

[@frankreynolds4413]

I started playing this game recently. I’m about 8 hours in and I’m enjoying the character Kassandra and the open world. It definitely feels like Ubisoft saw Witcher 3 and was like “let’s make this but don’t think about it too much.”

[@FadiMARc]

Yep Witcher 3 is my favorite rpg game

[@amannanda9700]

Damn right. If you want to make a good open world game, dont make it that big that makes playing (at least the main story) the game more of a chore. We dont want very big worlds, a smaller world,but more detailed and fun to explore is what we need. Really like you honest opinion on all games. You only tell us relevant facts and also tell us not only pros but also cons about all games. What a guy.

[@alexs_toy_barn]

to me, the fact that youre playing in a beautiful version of Greece makes up for a lot of the flaws in this game, im so immersed in the ancient worlds that i dont really care about the annoying mercenaries or unneeded nation battle system. also i didnt mind the grind, as there's enough good story content to play along the way to make the more basic side quests feel like a nice pallate cleanser. also the story and charecters and writing are way better than the game has any right to be.

[@craigpointon8394]

yup

[@gir2859]

Been playing origins recently and i love it, its a shame that it lead to this direction in the series.

[@blitzkrieg3482]

The 2 other recent games are exactly same as origins

[@ShadowLegend300]

@@blitzkrieg3482 Not really

[@fatezero8662]

@@blitzkrieg3482 they felt too different and filler-ish. The major problem i have for Ubisoft is that they don't focus on one character anymore and keep leaping from one protagonist to another, they should have given Bayek his trilogy and refined the gameplay more instead of going on different directions.

[@Kimkong2]

As i think about it, the main issue i have with Odyssey is the general lack of grounding in the game. It felt like you exist on the world and not in it. There was soo much to do and see but a very limited way to interact with the world. The lack of grounding is what tends to make gameplay very bland. Think of Red dead 2 vs Odyssey and imagine you are moving from region to region and lets assume there is no dynamic interaction with NPCs or combat, just traversal. In Odyssey, its simply movement and the only options to egnage with this movement is run or on a horse. Either way it's just mindless movement. The game even adds 'abilities' and systems that make it even more mindless, like not taking fall damage and the fact that your horse can just run full speed and yeet off a cliff with not much consequence. Couple that with that fact that you can climb absolutely anything means the gameplay is reduced to just pushing the analog forward towards the marker and everything in between ends up just becoming a chore to get over. Interesting environments are reduced to simple obstacles with this system because it doesn't matter if you are in a forest, mountain, valley, canyon or ocean, just push forward till you get there and you will get over any environment. Now with Red dead 2, the horse is vital to traversal for various reasons. Firstly, the open world is more dangerous and challenging when you are on foot. There's different environments with different requirments and weather conditions, animals that will only attack you if you are on foot and not on horseback plus different environmental harzards for different bioms. Secondly, your character has a stamina bar and hunger system and can't climb anything and everything. This means it's not ideal to just run everywhere since you will probably need to rest and eat and is not inly faster but safer to use a horse to get over certain terrain. If you stray too far from your horse, you legit feel stranded in the middle of nowhere, the game is a whole different experience on foot and on horseback. Your horse also needs to be maintained and steered carefully as you can't just zone out since it will stumble on rocks or even buck you off if you keep mashing the gallop button. All these things make a simple thing like traversal from region to region more engaging and immersive since things matter. In Odyssey and with UBI game design in genral, nothing matters, everything is just eye candy and cosmetic. On top of that they add ridiculous fantasy abilities that even further alienate you from any sort of grounding or immersion. UBI take freedom too far that their game systems lose any focus and end up clashing, they give you a mechanic but turn around and make it pointless by having another mechanic that completely overides it. The horse is just a gimmick because you can yeet off any mountain and climb directly up as well making the horse pointless. This is just for traversal in reagards to the open world size, the same general issue can be said for most other gameplay features. Nothing matters.

[@sdp640]

I love when you upload Odyssey related video 😂😂🤣🤣

[@shivanshkumar3754]

Started playing odyssey and skyrim at the same time. Sunk more than 50 hrs in a week in skyrim, haven't touched odessey again since the first time.

[@IlMemetor72]

Because skyrim is actually an RPG and not a watered-down grindy mobile game disguised as an Assassins creed game

[@grantmalone]

2:01 omg the "quicktime events" in Unity were soooo monotonous, I can't believe you used that as an example. Basically 4 or 5 extremely simple things with no atmosphere or tension that were always basically the same... and you did them hundreds of times. You couldn't walk for a few minutes without being encouraged to catch another thief, or go over there to stab someone. The balancing was so off. They would be great if they happened occasionally, making the world feel more alive and real. But they were so frequent they had the opposite effect, making the world feel like a monotonous video game. I genuinely preferred riding my horse through Odyssey's emptiness to that. Gave more of a feeling of reality and wasn't any less easy...

[@ubicypher]

After 400 hours and almost all the mastery skills completed I still can't one shot, unless y maintain the Y button pressed, that's the only way Unless it's super basic enemies

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

400 hours in and you haven't thought to min-max your warrior and assassin stats and then use the DLC's overpowered engravings to further boost your stats? Alexios is such a power house now at level 85 that every merc I come across either instantly dies to hold-down-y assassinations or I do that, then use Fury of the Bloodline, then an overpowered strike. It's like clockwork now, and I've only played 180 hours in comparison. It's actually pretty boring now. Even Hercules became dogmeat with this combo, ESPECIALLY when you factor in Madness of Ares.

[@ubicypher]

@@ChristAliveForevermore Not really :') I'm actually struggling with stats as I don't understand them that much

[@j.mtherandomguy8701]

@@ChristAliveForevermore Not at that level yet, however, by maxing Kassandra's assassin stats, I have achieved a point where I end up accidentally killing polemarchs with assassinations even though I want to weaken them for the purpose of knocking them out.

[@baki484]

People will always be suckers for bigger is better forget quality the world is bigger than ever

[@AFT_05G]

Bigger is better when the world is also better in terms of design and quality.

[@Trust-de-process]

I love these types of games or maybe thats just me .. and been gaming since 1995

[@jvan28]

Going back to Origins was very refreshing. (And I’m someone who’s a huge fan of the old games.) It’s light on the RPG elements while still feeling like Assassin’s Creed to me. They should’ve continued with Bayek while laying back on the RPG side of things. It’s a shame.

[@danischannel]

what's your opinion on Origin? I'm thinking of trying Origins ,Unity or Syndicate. The last AC game I played was AC3 ages ago

[@stitchgrimly6167]

I buy a game about once every 3 years and I love Far Cry and AC games because of their longevity. For that reason and the fact it's freaking Ancient Greece I think Odyssey is the best game I've ever played. I've played six ACs and don't think I could go back to 2 or Black Flag or whatever now. I don't give a shit about story so the fact it's not about assassins doesn't bother me either. I just love exploring and doing random shit. Grinding is basically the point for me I guess. Can't wait for Far Cry 6.

[@luigisellitto6265]

Another example may be Assassin's Creed 2: there are just too many main quests. I arrived at a point where I would just rush them so that I could finish the game

[@m.j.cervanez61700]

Ac odyssey is like the golden black sheep of the franchise- it is one with the series but not at the same time because of how much of an outcast it is. I had fun- for a short while but I felt too sad so I decided to delete the game. Also for some reason the quality feels like a mobile game.

[@piyushsrivastava7405]

Your thoughts on far cry 6?

[@piyushsrivastava7405]

Can you tell should I buy cyberpunk 2077 now?

[@michaeltaylor8698]

Christ I don't get all the Odyssey hate. It's in my top 3 alongside Black Flag and Revelations, with Unity being no 4. An amazing setting, a fun protagonist in Kassandra who I put in the top 3 with Ezio and Edward, and the most satisfying combat in the series, with Unity being 2nd. Stealth is still more than viable, unlike Valhalla where you get spotted instantly from half a mile away, at night, in dense fog, in a forest. They brought back the naval gameplay with the cool trireme overhaul, which was briefly shown in Origins but wasn't a main feature then, and it blew my mind the first time I realised I could board an enemy ship, kill the enemies, loot the treasure and hop back onto my ship in real time as the enemy ship sank, unlike Black Flag which threw the brakes on in every naval engagement with a loading screen and menu after a boarding. I loved being able to specialise my character for stealth, ranged or combat, just like in Unity. And I never once got bored exploring the map in Odyssey At the very least I don't get why Odyssey gets all the criticism and not Valhalla. Valhalla is even larger than Odyssey. It took me 70 hours to get the platinum trophy for Origins, 100 hours to get the platinum trophy for Odyssey., and it took 130 hours for me to get the Platinum trophy for Valhalla. The map itself is technically smaller but the number of things to do in each region is significantly larger. Was there room for improvement in Odyssey? Of course, enemies should definitely have been less tanky and the grind could and should have been lessened and, while I personally never had any issues with stealth in Odyssey, the option of the guaranteed stealth kill feature in Valhalla was a good idea to include for those who would want it. The mercenary system was fun but definitely needed work. I didn't like how mercenaries can track you from anywhere in the entire open world. I prefer how Origins Phylakes and Valhalla's Zealots are tied to regions and can't leave them. It was quite intimidating in Origins when an enemy managed to light a camp's beacon and it would call the region's Phylake to your location, with the horn announcing their arrival and everything. That was much cooler and more dramatic. And my single biggest wish for the new AC games is that they would re-include the sandbox assassination missions from Unity and Syndicate. Having your targets roam the world in real time sounded like a cool idea on paper, but in Odyssey and Valhalla its so anti-climatic to discover a target's identity, only to then find them just standing around in a market place somewhere. Bring back the Hitman style assassination missions from Unity where you scout the location in a little cutscene, are notified of opportunities, guards, entrances and unique kill opportunities. Those missions were the highlight of Unity and should have become a mainstay of the franchise. Having said all of that, Odyssey is still among my favourite AC games. Exploring ancient Greece is one of my favourite experiences in my entire gaming life. I loved Kassandra as a protagonist, and I loved the gameplay, and Valhalla disappointed me for being a shell of what Odyssey was.

[@jackiesimplejake]

I feel like a Karma system would have been easy to implement in this game. All spartan/Athenian kills while being detected should affect a reputation system with that faction. It can affect shops, hostility in certain areas, more restricted zones, and overall make the random citizens react to you differently.

[@-EC-Tanmaysingh]

In today's world no matter how good you do there will always be a critic who has done nothing in his life himself , he will demotivate you pull you down , because he hasn't saw your hardwork he only see's your mistakes disregarding your achievements , nothing is perfect in this world , if you like the game play it, if not atleast don't criticise there hardwork

[@-EC-Tanmaysingh]

@ ashy yes I know what video game critisism is , criticising some parts of the the game is understandable but ranting about it for views is bullshit , nobody is perfect that includes you , how would you feel when someone nitpicks and criticise your hardwork ? These type of videos are demotivating new gamers to not purchase this game , and I know because one of my cousin is game developer himself hence I know the sacrifices he makes , I hope u understand brother

[@-EC-Tanmaysingh]

@ashy it's ok this is your opinion , and what you think about this game , but there are people who might like this game if they play it , but after seeing videos like these they may got convinced to not to play this game, many gamers are missing the experience they coud have enjoyed because of such videos these videos are creating margin of doubt in their mind

[@Tom-sd2vi]

The people who like Odyssey must have grocery shopping as their hobby.

[@lordheadass3662]

@@mrmeme2917 no

[@Glamosapien]

Or theyre less cynical and nostalgic and able to enjoy more content outside of what theyre used to or even our side their biases

[@alejandrogarcia7938]

Lmao baught it with all the DLCs on sale one of the best games for all the content it has of course I didn't like that every enemy is a dam tank nevertheless great game

[@Glamosapien]

@@alejandrogarcia7938 its an amazing experience . Few games capture culture and history like the ac series and odyssey did that extremely well considering how old the setting is

[@cybertramon0012]

When odyssey came out, I was also playing Spyro reimagined. I had more fun with Spyro's smaller levels than I ever had with Odyssey's sprawling, bloated world.

[@ennuiedstealthgamesfan621]

Hot take: Odyssey > Valhalla

[@ntmagnificent]

this is just a fact

[@michaeltaylor8698]

100%

[@jinchuriki7022]

Would you rather have 10 hours of awesomeness, or 100 hours of absolute shit? Welcome to oddysey.

[@konradfun]

Wouldn't really go so far as to call it shit. Just painfully mediocre and a mishmash of a bunch of other games thrown into it.

[@jinchuriki7022]

@@konradfun i didnt find it funny to pay for the ultimate edition ( at a reduced price) and end up bored within 10 hours. Mediocre is far to lenient.

[@konradfun]

@@jinchuriki7022 you don't need the ultimate edition to play the game tho. On sale it's like $15 on Steam and console versions are even cheaper online.

[@JGaute]

I'm a huge AC veteran. I've been playing them all and 100%'d all of them since the very first. Except odyssey and valhalla. God the amount of B L O A T. SO MUCH FUCKING BLOAT. GOD they're so fucking empty. I was completely burnt off after 100 hours. I hated those games so much. I don't ever want to play another ac rpg again

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

The only thing that got me through the bloat was my love affair with everything ancient Greece. Not sure how I'll get through Valhalla, though, since I'm less of a fan of Norse culture.

[@JGaute]

@@ChristAliveForevermore you likely won't. To top it off, the main story is uninspired to say the least, and in between the good parts, there are tons of main missions with tons of side-characters that are not memorable at all. Even the storyline is bloated

[@emiliosnic]

This guy is obsessed with hating Odyssey. Man.. it's been 2 years, chil!

[@goatygoat2709]

I'm playing blackflag for the first time. It's really good! Except for boat tailing missions. But I'm actually very impressed with the narrative.

[@igneelstudios4941]

While I agree with you on the open world and the game as a full AC title, AC Odyssey is a solid game. Odyssey's biggest weakness is the Assassin's Creed license, but not in the way you think. The best they could do with it is to have it as a separate IP or make it a spin-off title if they still want it to connect with the AC universe. A simple title change like Assassin's Creed Presents: A Spartan's Odyssey or something would definitely give a semblance of uniqueness and identity and not have it remind you that it's the Animus with a present-day story like classic AC, just keep the story in the time period without it breaking immersion. You can still have the demi-god aspect without it being out of the ordinary with the title change or IP if they want to go the extra mile. As far as the world goes, I don't mind how massive it is, they recreated ancient Greece to a tee and I like having that freedom. However, as you said, it has a lot of dead space with nothing going on and nobody doing anything until you go have a pointless cutscene for a boring side quest. Also, the Peloponnesian War is happening in full swing in this game, where is the war?! That is the first step in making the world feel alive, having the war with battlefields and skirmishes on the road fill in this dead space. Not only that, there is very little to no wildlife in this massive world; you see a couple soldiers fighting, and have a bear or something come out of nowhere and do something to us or the NPCs. The synchronizations were BS as they did not reveal the map and just gave you a fast travel point, and minutely upgrade your eagle's perception compared to classic titles. The mercenary system should have been a highlight in the game, but it wasn't utilized to its fullest potential. They could have implemented a Nemesis System like from Shadow of War to add replay value and more freedom with your own personal stories in the game and have these mercenaries be around in real time to also fill in the boredom. Same with the Conquest Battles, they could do massive battles like they have and add strategic advantages when you weaken the defenses of a region or aren't strong enough, thus giving the replay value a boost and allowing players to play it to their own style rather than just mash the attack button with the spamming of demi-god abilities with the enemies having inflated health bars (that should go to the combat in general.) Odyssey is a solid RPG, but it has glaring issues that should have been looked at in development and tweaked if not reworked. I know this was a long comment, but I had words and thoughts I needed to get out because there was a lot of potential that was wasted with this game. Thanks for reading.

[@melohopkins5480]

Been a fan of the franchise since the original . I actually quite enjoyed odyssey . Enjoyed it more than origins . I grow tired of people complaining when open worlds aren’t as good as Witcher 3 or read dead . 2 games that are considered some of the greatest open world games ever . Just because a game doesn’t reach that status doesn’t make it bad . There’s something in between greatness and awful . And also it’s a huge misrepresentation to act as if you hav to do even close to all the games side content if you don’t choose to . I finished the game n was well over the Mac level for the story quest n still hadn’t even been to a quarter of the islands and didn’t 100% all the places I’d been . It’s a big game but it doesn’t force you to do nearly all of it . I also quite enjoyed the story . Even though it wasn’t at all about assassins I liked how it tied in some stuff with the isu and pieces of eden . Idk def not my favorite creed game but it’s crazy listening to people trash games that def provide fun and are probably slightly above average as if they are 2-3/10 games .

[@michaeltaylor8698]

Well said. I also think the hate for Odyssey is incredibly overblown. So many people seem to resent Odyssey just for not being like the old AC games. It reminds me of the Devil May Cry Reboot game and how it got 0s and 1s on every public review site because people hated on it for changing Dante. I remember the Angry Joe review and how he actually ranted about how stupid and unfair those reviews were, and how it was wrong to rate a game that was actually still a solid 6, 7 or 8 out of 10 as 0 just because its not what you wanted it to be, rather than considering it by its own merits.

[@j.mtherandomguy8701]

I also prefer Odyssey for its gear system and the abilities that you can use, along with the different enemy types, be it in terms of troop types or the mercenary system. As someone who places a lot of emphasis(which is weird since it is ASSASSIN's creed not warrior's creed) on the weapons and combat and for the most part not being a big fan of complicated Parkour. Having lots of different gear types and perks, a simplified parkour system along with the different fighting styles of enemies to actually force me to think of how to engage the enemy instead if mindlessly spamming the "counter" and "attack" button is something that I greatly appreciate in Odyssey. Although I would agree, the world is too massive and it can be a bugbear at times to travel to the other side of the world to complete a quest.

[@bishnuramachandran2780]

Open worlds need to be like Witcher 3/ RDR2. RDR2 gave the perfect amount of stuff to do to make it interesting to explore. Witcher 3 had too many 'question marks'(especially in Skellige), but the game is beautiful, has amazing OSTs, and the side quests are interesting, which more than makes up for it. Oh, and you earned a like and sub for mentioning Unity. That game is the epitome of "You don't see what you had till its gone"

[@joshuasmith8316]

I loved it. There’s a video out there on “how to play it” so you’re not wasting time grinding and shit and pretty much end up with everything you need by levels 70-99 skipping all the filler

[@Ohmagawdjr]

I've put more time into Odyssey than any other game in the franchise, and I've enjoyed every second of it. I'm glad they tried something different instead of more of the same.

[@wendytimblesun6976]

Agreed

[@danischannel]

what's your opinion on Origin? I'm thinking of going back to Origins ,Unity or Syndicate. The last AC game I tried was AC3 ages ago

[@Ohmagawdjr]

@@danischannel It's a really good game. Compared to Odyssey the story is much better. The character building through talents/abilities and gear is nowhere near as good. And the combat is not as smooth but good nonetheless. If the last AC you played was AC3 then expect a lot to have changed. Because with the exception of the parkour and stealth, very little else if anything at all remains the same. I can't speak about Syndicate, or Unity because those are the only 2 AC games I haven't played.

[@arthurmorgan7026]

@@danischannel Origins is an excellent 👌game.

[@zicuvalentin2251]

2500 hours în odyssey

[@imthebest_itw24]

I know it is repetitive but being a demi god in Ancient Greece is hella fun, from the nature to wars between the Athens and Spartans. So odyssey is a great game for me

[@gabe.o.d.s227]

5:03 want a small open world with quality and quantity? Yakuza series👌

[@anupkumarpatel2576]

damn. i have 100 hours in Origins and I am overwhelmed. I wanted to play Odyssey but I don't think I can play it now

[@rioreverso9155]

You made valid points but for me bigger is always better when it comes to open world. It may seems empty or copy pasted or whatever you want to call it but I still find Odyssey’s world gorgeous and pleasant to look at. I just want to turn on my PC and take a relaxing stroll in Odyssey after I’m all tired and fucked up after work. This is just my opinion tho.

[@Dm16509]

Odyssey in my opinion from a video game standpoint and from an rpg stand point is the best in the franchise. If this game was called "Odyssey" people wouldn't hate it nearly as much

[@patricianulxd8906]

you are right about the mercs I was doing the last mission where you kill Deimos and a random mercenery spawned

[@jackcaptures]

Completely agree with this. Larger doesn't mean better, but they use a massive game/map as a major selling point. The focus has strayed so far from the story itself, the origin of the assassins, and having a protagonist character of interest that you actually care about.

[@OrangeDragon04]

I'm someone who doesn't need much to be entertained. Sometimes I just went for strolls through Greece and killed bandits. I took a lot of inspiration from this game and used it in my D&D game. And the music can be really good at times. But I didn't bother with all the side quests. Those were really pointless. With choices that are morally wrong no matter what you choose.

[@R2-D2...]

Everyone still talks about when they removed crossbow in ACI.... You guys know smoke bombs were invented in 1848 right?

[@nestormelendez9005]

Modern day smoke bomb

[@SPQRKlio]

There are some things I do genuinely love about Odyssey-like the crazy love affair with Alkibiades. Or Mykonos, a densely laid out and beautiful bit of open world (that I wish had more to do in). But I do wonder if my fondness for Odyssey is primarily about the story I created in my head, and not the actual story I played. Bayek is absolutely the better protagonist, and wonderful acting, though I felt let down by the whole ending mission and sequence. The loading screen historical factoids in all three of the latest games tend to be trash inaccuracies, but I loved climbing a pyramid and the lighthouse, and the sense of wonder of discovering a tomb after crossing a desert waste, and the music overall. Odyssey had... it was... um, I liked the volcanic island? Did I mention Alkibiades?

[@LauraEM1997]

I really do enjoy Oddessy. However these criticisms are valid and I do agree that it should be made smaller. I do enjoy visiting real places and the history. I also enjoyed the world tour option.

[@theshadowgamer6527]

fun fact: a mercenary at lvl 44 has about 300K hp but a mercenary at lvl 99 has 3.5 million hp

[@Hexclar]

I start cracking in laughter everytime the odyssey theme plays 🤣 Bro you are the only guy who can make me laugh while talking about a game (also i enjoyed this short vid more than that whole game)

[@duoduoqian5468]

I'm only playing this game for the satisfaction of synchronizing viewpoints in the Fate of Atlantis DLC that are crazily high up in the sky.

[@lordeddy05]

This game was fun

[@illuzn_XCL]

I like how the hidden blade is a more refined and a smaller version of the spear of leonidas lmao. It’s just…not hidden

[@StillGaming3]

Bruh when you put the ac odyssey theme music 💀😂 don’t get me wrong I would still enjoy every ac games

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

I think they should’ve cut out all the naval stuff. I never really liked it, maybe a few islands but a ship and crew thing wasn’t… that great here. Just focus on the mainland.

[@yiklongtay6029]

....I think it was necessary for the Peloponesian war. There are way too many islands. Makes you wonder if this was a good setting for the game in the first place.

[@jamiefletcher3186]

Give us the stealth, parkour and customization from AC Unity back

[@captainstu]

I’d want: The stealth/parkour from Unity The exploration from black flag The combat from Origins (yes I liked it don’t hate)

[@supasayajinbone]

I love assassin creed and oddsey is one of my favorites

[@MultiKamil97]

I think you're too harsh about Odyssey. I personally love it. The story isn't the best, sure but the world itself is just gorgeous. This is one of these games where I would take a picture every 5 or 10 seconds but I don't want to spam my whole map with pictures lol. On top of that, everything seems so interesting that even though I already once 100%ed it and this time while replaying I promised myself to not do it again, I still clear out some locations on my way to the main missions, because I can't hold myself. Whenever there is a question mark, I'm always like "No, main story now, focus on the main story. Ahh, fuck it, I need to check it out". The combat is a bit annoying with bullet sponge enemies but still it's quite fun and enjoyable. Yeah, Odyssey may not be a proper AC game but it still is an amazing game nonetheless.

[@enric1478]

I’m so mad that we complained about unity and syndicate because then we got the rpg games

[@michawas1489]

One of the best Assassin's Creed in the series

[@unc54]

If you don't like Assassin's Creed. It's literally a game meant for people who hate AC.

[@alphonsokillen3505]

the only time i felt immersed in odyssey was i. the minataur city. The side and main missions couples with the statues and propaganda were cool. Any other place all felt the same or i couldn’t notice since i kept moving from objective to objective.

[@blacklung7474]

I finished all the new games, and origins was the best by far, but valhalla was pretty good to(didn't play as an assasin though).

[@danischannel]

what's your opinion on Origin? I'm thinking of trying Origins ,Unity or Syndicate. The last AC game I tried was AC3 ages ago

[@blacklung7474]

@@danischannel just finished Origin again, It is the better of the new ones, and i would rather play origins than unity and syndicate.

[@werthersoriginal9385]

My favourite AC-Game is Odyssey...but I understand why you would hate it, i just fucking loved it.

[@wzxed]

MasterAssassin : makes videos about Odyssey Me : ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK !! (keep em coming)

[@davylarson7577]

hey bro just wanna let u know that you’re my fav youtuber, i watch you for entertainment and comfort you’re just amazing in general homie

[@paydn202]

i just started playing (kinda) im 35 hours in and there is still more than half the map to be discovered....idk if im ever gonna try to beat it

[@codydunn2582]

I think assassin's Creed Odyssey is the best assassin's Creed game. 😍

[@m00rtin4]

I enjoyed the gameplay in origins overtaking camps and forts. So when I completed all of em in Origins i was like meh.... If they just released Origins with more of this type of content.....Well, Odyssey has just that. Love the gameplay, its addictive to me and i have over 200h played. Now, i dont engage in all side storys but i really enjoy exploring new areas in games and find new loot. THe xpolring in this game is amazing. So odyssey really fits my type of game. Greece is massive to my liking and the journey almost never ends. Its one of the greatest games iv ever played and prob the best AC games for me....atleast clearly out of gameplay and content.

[@zicuvalentin2251]

Played ODYSSEY 3000 hours....ha ha

[@m00rtin4]

@@zicuvalentin2251 ur the man. How is the replayability in the game? Guess good counting your hours

[@zicuvalentin2251]

@@m00rtin4 yes very happy with this game.(odyssey)...everything is perfect but i think you also know but what the hell happened to A.C valhalla...i love UBISOFT but valhalla must be deleted for good worst game in my life... we want a good game but vallhala very dissapointed...

[@LefYakuza]

My favourite video game series of all time is the Yakuza series and the open world is quite small. It's literally always one- five towns depending on the game and every town is in a different city and every town is extremely detailed. An example is Yakuza Kiwami 1 (2016). It's literally only one town and it's extremely detailed. It feels more detailed than every single part of the maps of the whole AC series because let's face it AC maps aren't that detailed

[@AFT_05G]

Yeah because the entire towns in Yakuza Games are like a few hundred meters from one side to other?Obviously everbody can make these locations detailes because they’re *TINY*

[@LefYakuza]

@@AFT_05G First of all they are not TINY. and that's not my point. My point was that they are very detailed and way smaller than Odyssey but I still prefer the map of Yakuza games than Odyssey which is a huge part of Greece.

[@LefYakuza]

@@AFT_05G So even if it was TINY which it's not THAT small I still enjoy walking around the map of Yakuza more than Odyssey because of the detail. Nothing to do with Greece, I am Greek in real life myself and I love Greece but in AC Odyssey.... It's ok at best

[@niklasgilsdorf6842]

Me personally liked AC Odyssey but that's bc I didn't went with the expectation that it is an Good "ASSASSIN" game, which is kinda sad when im playing an AC Game but that is the way I could enjoy the game. so if you're wanting to play it don't expect a banger AC game.

[@PunitRaj]

Master Assassin is obsessed with Odyssey

[@maskedhooded4553]

Odyssey is my favourite assassin's creed I love that you get to fight the god of the underworld I mean hades 😲

[@zicuvalentin2251]

I played ODYSSEY 2500 hours...valhalla is boring game I played...

[@DAVFEARON]

to bypass the grindy part. i hacked the game to get max stats and then focus on the main story. immediately levelled to 99 and then get to enjoy it. 10/10. no issues for me

[@dismayingmist7868]

I don’t know about Assassin creed but I did play Valhalla as my first ac game , and I picked up Odyssey and I noticed how overwhelming it is compared to Valhalla , were a ton of quests get in the way in odyssey that is over bearing , that I get burn out within seconds , I rather go back to playing Valhalla

[@badsporttrolln5658]

I don’t mind the grind. I have everything in GTA and RDO I also beaten every Assassins Creed and I have every single legendary weapon and armor in all of the AC games. I personally enjoy the grind but everyone is different but I do like Valhalla more than Odyssey that’s for sure.

[@anhadpartap5473]

probably best ac game

[@natedogeee2904]

Personally I actually enjoyed odyssey. I put plenty of hours into the game and it was enjoyable. Yeah it's not like the old assassin's creed games but as a whole it's a decent RPG.

[@steveshams4690]

I did enjoy Odyssey and played it full stealth, but its not a great AC game. It really needed a better story and a focused protagonist, and then maybe it could've been a solid addition to AC. The world was beautiful and I loved exploring, but I can't deny that some of it felt copied and pasted. Also, the level gating on main quests was bs to facilitate the xp boost micro transactions. It could've been really good and the the spear of leonidas should've been modified into a hidden blade. It would've been really cool.

[@matthewconnor6337]

I agree with most of the video. However, I disagree with your take on the gear system. More options is better than an illusion of choice. Some loot can be streamlined, but the epic and legendary were bountiful and unique. That being said, good video.

[@4hmza]

Probably tried to pull off something like Witcher 3 or RDR2 which their long but rich stories, instead ended up with something more like cyberpunk at launch. Even that story was better

[@yamaha188zt]

I think origins was worse, mostly due to the huge desert areas with literally nothing in them.