assembling the best pride and prejudice cast ever (and picking a fight with jane austen)

[@linnysau]

I always saw Lydia as being exactly like her mother. I imagined Mrs Bennett being like Lydia when she was young. Mrs Bennett describes herself as someone chasing soldiers before she married.

[@themusicsnob]

This was super fun and made me want to rewatch all the adaptations!

[@mynameismarines]

That’s the real goal of this video 😂

[@AlthenaLuna]

I love this hypothetical 10-hour miniseries for ALL of us. It's always a good time listening to the two of you banter.

[@rinceyreads]

I would watch a whole series of you two talking about Pride and Prejudice and all of its various adaptations (good, bad and in between)

[@Mizzbeezness]

This was both a GREAT analysis of the different P&P adaptations and a riveting discussion of ideal casts. As a 2005 girlie myself, I believe MM could carry a 10 hour series if given the chance, but everything else I agree 100% with.

[@Vanitas1131]

I'm way too invested in this fake 10 hour version you two imagine. Love your banter and takes 🤣

[@mynameismarines]

Thank you! We are also very invested in this 10 hour version lol. IT'S WHAT WE DESERVE!

[@KitKat170]

I need more Pride and Prejudice deep dive videos! 😍 So good

[@parmahmac6073]

What a great idea for a video! 1995 P&P is the best version for me and that is the Pemberley hill I will die on. But I loved the nuanced discussion about the other versions. CF was the greatest but every time MM’s Darcy was on screen in 2005, I cried my eyes out.

[@mynameismarines]

He’s got the brood DOWN. I miss his full arc but he’s still very romantic hero-like.

[@parmahmac6073]

@@mynameismarines Agreed

[@booksbyleynes]

I loved this so much! Ya'll's energy together is amazing. This was so fun to watch, even though I haven't even seen the 1980 or 1995 version of P&P. Will rectify that now!

[@hannahk8te]

i absolutely adored this video omg!!! i love 1995 and 2005 darcy so much but colin firths sparkly eyes just make him win out a bit more

[@anix670]

I love the 1995 series, the two leads were sparkling. Also, Mr. Bingley is portrayed as less stupid than in the 2005 version and I appreciate that!

[@shannon4521]

This video was so much fun, I’d love this to become a series of the perfect casting choices for classic novel adaptations

[@okidokiboki]

but honestly, making a version of pride and prejudice where *everyone* is played by rosamund pike would be genius

[@mynameismarines]

the true takeaway here is that Rosamund Pike is that bitch

[@SweeneySays]

I'm just saying that *I* would watch it on repeat. I would need no other media.

[@doctorspockable]

not me getting confused by the "Fitzwilliam Darcy" header (why so early?) but then you started talking about Col Fitzwilliam and it made way more sense

[@yogiwithabook]

ahhhh I've missed actually getting to witness your conversations. time to go listen to old episodes of snark squad pod I guess

[@ArteoftheMist]

I still come back to this video and rewatch it periodically.

[@mynameismarines]

lol you and me both ❤️

[@AbracAlaina]

Saw bits on TikTok and had to watch the whole thing! Love this!

[@PolesitterPictures]

I mean, my Fitzwilliam is Fitz from the Lizzie Bennett Diaries. I feel like he'd be a wonderful addition in any context. Feel the same way about the LBD Lydia.

[@SweeneySays]

ok WAIT. we left off LBD partially bc we didn't rewatch & also bc i think it would have been a third place at best for most of my castings (there are a couple third places i would give it tho!) but i could see this being my understudy fitz

[@tchristie51]

This was SO much fun! Thank you!

[@booksvsmovies]

This video is a revalation. I'm glad to find other Charlotte Lucas is a lesbian truthers out there in the world. The Anne de Burgh Charlotte Lucas fanfic I wrote in high school attests to where I fall on the matter

[@SweeneySays]

charlotte lucas lesbian truthers unite!! also i am dying this pairing never occurred to me but i am absolutely delighted by it.

[@libellulareading8859]

You guys are hilarious and so fun to watch! I’m so glad I found your channel ☺️ I haven’t yet seen the 1980 adaptation so I don’t have any thoughts on that (yet) but this definitely makes me wanna re-read and re-watch everything Pride and Prejudice!!

[@shioramenrabbit]

For Wickham '95, the one other thing about that portrayal that tips it for me, is I don't truly believe '05 KNOWS what he's doing and how deep he's in. '95 knows and all of his choices take him deeper and further from redemption. However, '05 and that pairing make it way more explicit how unhappy of a life Lydia has, but because Lydia isn't just thoughtless but also kinda detestable in it, it doesn't land as hard as it should've. I want those '95's, but I need the energy of the '05 relationship where it's obvious that the power dynamic really is Wickham is a predator, and whether it is currently the case or just will be, Lydia has been consigned to an abusive and abysmal life because the people who should have protected get and raised her, failed. And also although different than Mary, her sisters were also kinda complicit, either in enabling (Kitty), ignoring (Mary), indulging (Jane because Jane truly believes Lydia is a better smarter version of herself) or pushing her to extremes (Elizabeth is honestly a bit snide to her and my take from the book is that Lydia had no love from any older person in her life and so settles for any attention instead).

[@SweeneySays]

this observation about Lydia & her sisters is so spot on!!

[@elizabethgardner6832]

After some sister drama today, this video cheered me up so much! It was fun and I needed the laughter. Now, I need to go find the 1980 version.

[@luciesvobodova1131]

Aww a shame people feel that way about 1995 Jane because I absolutely fell in love with her from the moment she came on screen (both in a character way and in a me being a flaming lesbian way), I agree that she may come off a little soft but I didn't find that to make her seem dim witted and I thought it worked very nicely with a lively Elizabeth and loved their interactions, to be honest I also thought she had the best chemistry with her Mr Bingley with them both being kind of awkward and shy around one another, not just Bingley. I also found her to be very pretty, especially if you go by regency era standards and I REALLY got that sweetness from her. Jane was my favourite in the book and this was actually the only adaptation where I felt the same way about her but I'm definitely biased because I love that series to bits so no hate to you I just felt a need to stick up for her since not many people seem to share my view

[@mynameismarines]

I like 95 Jane much more than Nicole and it was just in watching with her that I was able to pinpoint the issue being a breathy sort of delivery. There was definitely also some discussion where I also said Jane was time period beautiful 😂

[@SweeneySays]

i obviously disagree vehemently but i really love that 95 jane has you here to defend her honor. good for both of you tbh!! also, the necessary caveat here is that actually all p&p things are good. bad p&p is still p&p and thus dear to my heart lol

[@jasminv8653]

I've got to agree with you, she's my absolute favourite Jane and imo the most pretty and believably 'regency pretty' sister out there, I love her :(

[@luciesvobodova1131]

@@mynameismarines oh my god hello! As I said no hate to your opinions, just wanted to toss in my perspective as well! By the way I love your videos and I'm so happy to have found your channel :))

[@rukbat3]

I absolutely agree that 1995 Jane is my favorite! And I don't understand at all that there are people out there who don't think she's gorgeous! She's also a great foil for Ehle's Elizabeth, and I love their relationship in the miniseries.

[@macklinloosley-millman9215]

This is the best video on the Internet. I howled with laughter multiple times and there was a lot of vocal agreement. I have never seen the 1980 one though. I have seen the 1940 one with Greer Garson and while I would not cast any of the people from that film I would add in the scenes where Darcy does not act on his feelings for Lizzy because of her family being too much for him and gradually being too far gone on her to let that stop him.

[@SweeneySays]

when i was trying to find screenshots i kept thinking about how our project should have included 1940 of only to be more committed to the bit. a missed opportunity!!

[@mynameismarines]

I’ve actually never seen the 1940!!

[@macklinloosley-millman9215]

@@mynameismarines it took me ages to get over the costumes. I actually turned it off the first time I tried to watch it because I could not deal with it. Also, after the first ball, the book was kicked to the curb lol

[@rukbat3]

Mr. Collins in 1940 is hilarious! He would probably be my understudy (after 1995).

[@KeepCalmwithBooksandCoffee]

I cannot tell you how much I love this. Now I need to get all my friends in a room and have this discussion

[@mynameismarines]

Highly recommend, we had a blast! 😂

[@linnysau]

I'm SO glad Elizabeth Garvie was recognised here. Thank you! I loved her but 1995 was THE best version. Hands down. Done and dusted. No argument (obviously, in my opinion)

[@amber8206]

Such a cute video! Thanks for sharing ❤

[@heysara910]

I’ve just finished Pride & Prejudice for the first time, loved it, and can now catch up on all the Marines P&P content I’ve avoided so as not to spoil myself! 🎉

[@mynameismarines]

I’m so happy for you and I’m so so happy you loved it!!! ❤️

[@blueevening]

This was a lot of fun to watch!

[@ItsRadishTime]

pure joy

[@TheOkayestBookReviewer]

Great video, made me smile and definitely made my day better. I now need to watch 1980 version as I have never watched it.

[@mynameismarines]

It's... not awesome! lol It obviously has some good interpretations and casting but is almost completely ruined by David Rintoul as Mr. Darcy. It's a very wooden interpretation.

[@SweeneySays]

I will say that if you go into it knowing that the vibes/budget are very much community theater (every single actor is performing for the back of the house) & mentally writing over David Rintoul's entire performance (who inexplicably chose to counter his castmates by not performing at all), it's fun! That's a lot of mental energy to exert to get there, but truly the scenes without Darcy *are* fun if you're a P&P superfan.

[@mithzelluque4754]

did y'all hear about the book mrs. wickham. i've been curious to read it with hopes that it'll capture that secret truth that y'all actually mentioned about wickham. all in all, what i took from this video is that i need to rewatch every p&p adaption, asap.

[@tealorturquoise]

This was fun!

[@PaolaMancera]

This was soooo fun and thoughtful and amazing!!!

[@loraj4712]

I would love to see a version of this for Emma and Sense & Sensibility. ;)

[@Lizzyb1813]

This video was so fun!! Thank you for brightening up my evening 😊

[@dawnshade4939]

Yes! Someone who finally sees the perfection that was the Mr Collins in P&P&Z!!

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

I just started this and I was like “did Nicole edit this - this feels like Nicole’s editing” and then I checked the description and she did!

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

The montage of all of the additional scenes you’d add? I love it.

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

When you both start rocking your chairs in unison while discussing… that’s a cute bestie moment.

[@SweeneySays]

thank you for recognizing my ✨ art ✨ i am so honored

[@ArteoftheMist]

I love this so deeply, I'm here for it.

[@pinpilinpaux]

I agree about Charlotte being a lesbian lol and about Mary having a thing for Collins. When you mentioned that Wickham was an abusive husband I was reminded of The Lizzie Bennet Diaries and how fantastic that arc was in the web series. If you haven’t watched I 100% recommend it.

[@SweeneySays]

Charlotte Is A Lesbian hive unite. And yes, we both love LBD!! We just didn't get to it in our P&P marathon, which is why we didn't include any discussion of it here, but I agree! It's very much the vindication-of-Lydia P&P, which I love and appreciate.

[@lisajenny9]

Ginger Bingley being canon is so funny.

[@mar9267]

Well done!

[@Jamhands9]

The 1995 movie will always be my movie. I definitely feel like 2005 doesn’t give enough room to breathe. It’s a sweet soft movie, but it lacks some of the Austen nuance. 1995 feels more faithful and explores her themes more.

[@KnightHunterBooks]

I'm not even sure why but 'lost in austen' is my favourite adaptation and so many of the castings from it are my all time faves

[@stardroplet9499]

Yeah, I didn’t like the show, but the casting for Darcy and Lizzie had so much potential and they had chemistry in the few seconds they conversed.

[@mariannaplusthree]

I love this! I haven’t seen the 1980 version or P&P&Zombies but now I need to! I do like 1995 but I’m a 2005 girly at heart. I used to listen to the soundtrack to sleep to in high school and I walked down the isle at my wedding to it as well 😅

[@catsreadbooks9359]

I haven't seen Zombies, though I read the book. Also haven't seen the 1980 version so I don't feel I can weigh in. '95 is a constant rewatch for me & though I resisted '05 a bit - it is really hard to compare to a miniseries - I ended up really loving it. The soft focus to the lighting & everything seeming a bit gentler. The biting sarcasm of '95 is super fun though. For casting though, I feel like '05 gets nearly all of my votes. '95 gets props for the Gardiners & Georgiana though.

[@catsreadbooks9359]

I weighed in anyway. 🤣

[@SweeneySays]

@@catsreadbooks9359 "I don't think I can weight in ... I weighed in anyway." is such a mood tbh!! All of the adaptations have their various strengths and weaknesses, but the cinematography on 2005 is just! so! good! The whole movie is so dreamy & beautiful in a way that it's pretty impossible to beat -- there are valid criticisms of it, for sure, but it is hands down the most aesthetically pleasing.

[@maud375]

Now I need to watch the 1980 version...

[@msrichardsreads]

This was so fun!

[@neatodude3339]

1995 Bingley for me

[@LiteratureScienceAlliance]

That was a blast!

[@emilyco6555]

Hottest take - the best wickham is from Zombies

[@SweeneySays]

this is a very spicy take. i do not agree, but i respect your boldness in declaring it.

[@suejones4013]

It's definitely an age thing!😁

[@GreenGretel]

I prefer the 1995 versions of Mr. Bingley and especially Mr. Collins. It's been a few years since I saw the 2005 film version, but I remember thinking it leaned too heavily on social awkwardness in its characterization as a kinda cheap shortcut to audience sympathy, or as a way to more tidily explain away certain characters' flaws, and that struck me as particularly odd with characters like Mr. Collins and Bingley, neither of whom were depicted as remotely socially awkward in the books (even when Bingley was in Jane's presence), but 2005 Bingley is always stuttering and bumbling and having trouble formulating coherent sentences in front of Jane because that's an easy way to elicit 'awwws' from us female viewers, lol. I thought somewhat "softening" Mr. Collins' character with that was particularly egregious considering he is just completely, comically irredeemable in the books, and the whole appeal of his character is just watching him obliviously prattle on without a care in the world saying the most ridiculous, obsequious and even heinous things without the slightest smidge of self-awareness or shame. I live for Austen's contempt for the English clergy (here and in Emma). 😂 ITA on Rosamund Pike, she is my Jane Bennet~ And I can't imagine anyone will _ever_ embody Elizabeth better than Jennifer Ehle. Ugh, she's so perfect in that role!

[@christinesmith3991]

Rosamund Pike is so beautiful it makes me want to cry and she is about the only good thing in the 2005 travesty (and I am a huge Keira Knightley fan) but the woman who Jane Austen is believed to have considered most closely resembled Jane Bennet is static.wikia.nocookie.net/janeausten/images/d/d6/Mrs._Quentin_aka_Jane_Bingley.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120228192020 who I think looks a lot more like Susannah Harker (1995).

[@jbzen1]

Yes!!!!!

[@maud375]

I'm disappointed you haven't added in the mix th cast of Lost in Austen !!

[@gregoriaarteaga4460]

I love pride and prejudice 1995 and the book. I can’t stand the actress and actor who plays Elizabeth and mr Darcy on 2005.😡🤮

[@analiese9651]

I'm just saying that if you were ever to make a video about all the reasons Mr. Bennett is an ass, I would watch that in a /heartbeat/ Great video! Your videos are always great but the two of you have very fun energy together!

[@AbiofPellinor]

❤

[@christinesmith3991]

Thank you for being kind to Mary but please, PLEASE don't palm Collins off on her.

[@stardroplet9499]

😅

[@alysiaeroy]

No Lizzie Bennett diaries actors? Haha

[@mynameismarines]

We rewatched all of these adaptations before the video. LBD was a bit too much for a rewatch. 😅