Assembly & Flight Review -- Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm EDF (Digital Camo)

[@charlesrestivo870]

Just wanted to say while all the other rc youtubers reviews have turned into comedy shows calendar shots and childish behavior .Yours remains true to form no baloney just smart information

[@BlvlWmpower]

yep.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks man, I appreciate that!

[@dont6441]

I have this one and I can honestly say it is my favorite EDF. I was a little intimidated at first due to it's size, cost and dual power systems. However, it is a gentle flier but has plenty of power for just about any maneuver you can think of. And it slows down nicely for landing. Sounds good and looks good in the air. This is my go-to EDF and worth every penny. Remember to calibrate your throttle before the first flight and like any twin, make sure both motors are running before take-off. It does not fly well on one motor. Ask me how I know!

[@johnnewguy3374]

I just got one I'm flying freewing L39 and su35 wondering how mig will fly

[@Thercgeek]

The mig is a really nice flying edf

[@ciciak7213]

This is amazing! Paint scheme is 1:1 with the Slovak tiger squadroom of MiG-29 AS and I cant stop staring at it! Amazing flight skills too :)

[@pietroseven8228]

I had a feeling that I'm on SIAD during its glory days! The sound from the highway made effect like as roaring engines :)

[@victormontalbano4993]

Hey guys. I balanced the elevators. Changed the elev servos to d85s. And changed the Ali servos as well. Went elev straight to 2 channel to balance them And bypass the blue box. To RX. Due to voltage drop on low main battery’s Running 2 smart battery’s 5000 100 c. On factory front and rear battery boxes. And replaced ubec with my own switch and 2200 life 6,6 volt life with 5.5 voltage reg. And greased the axle with bvm grease. Plane has flew awesome. I put it in the straight down full power run. Not a issue ! Great plane from notion RC once again !

[@Thercgeek]

Awesome!!

[@rustyalford6286]

The afterburners are spectacular. I can't imagine a large scale RC Jet without them!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! 😊

[@preauzalam3483]

@@Thercgeek Hi RC Geek, I was just wondering if you think this flys similarly to the arrows rc mig 29? I currently have the arrows mig 29 and have 62 flights on it and feel very comfortable doing all sorts of aerobatics and dives. My only fear of getting the freewing model is that the elevator has some sort of apparent redline where it stalls out. Do you think i could flys this if i can fly the arrows mig really well??? Also i believe you have the arrows mig. If you have some time please write about how they are similar and different. Thanks a lot keep up the great work!

[@Thercgeek]

This model flies quite a bit better than the arrows mig. If you’re proficient with the arrows version, you’ll have no problem with the Fw.

[@preauzalam3483]

@@Thercgeek thank you sooooo much!!!!! I watched your arrows rc video before i bought the plane and loved it! Now i will definitely buy the freewing version as well. Thanks a lot bud

[@fdm225]

great video, I have one that I have yet to setup and am looking forward to it. You mention that you didn't like how the stock elevators were not tracking the same and that the you had to put reflex into the ailerons, As a suggestion for a future video could you please cover how you setup some of those things as well as some of the details of how you align the dual elevators so they would be the same? I ask as setup is so crucial to having a good flying plane and I find that so many that I fly with do such a poor job of actually setting up their planes. I have been taking extra care with my newer, bigger planes but would love to see how others do it (in detail) as that's how I learn. great videos and thanks!

[@jettechdonatkins]

Very nice video Chris,I really like this jet,maybe next year.The set-up tips always appreciated,and the flight and landings were great! Thanks!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks Don!

[@markocoric3382]

Glorious MIG 29

[@howardwilliams2587]

Great looking airplane. The landing attitude is remarkable scale. Great review, thanks for sharing.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks for watching! 😊

[@inthegameroompodcast]

Great video Chris. I’ve got one of these showing up this week.

[@Thercgeek]

Awesome! You’ll have fun with it, really good flyer.

[@normleonard52]

Awesome plane Chris....great flight and review.....thanks.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks!

[@guisblacio]

Awesome video, this plane is on my wish list along with those afterburners. Thanks for posting.

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks for watching! 😊

[@victorrcjets7660]

I always enjoy you spin on a jet i own, i did fly it loaded and it need a trim change. I started with 4mm of up and needed no trim on my maiden but yes when i flew it loaded it went back to the 1mm so i guess you need to keep moving it back and forth it you wish to use it sometimes. My Mig is not done yet with the repaint, but soon! I hope you enjoy how it looks my friend and hope we can fly again together soon!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks man! I look forward to seeing your final paint job. Should look great! 😊

[@victorrcjets7660]

@@Thercgeek Thanks Chris, just waiting for Callie to fix a few issues i had with the decals then put her back together!

[@matthewjames2649]

Nice chris!! Awesome plane looks great in the air.. !

[@matthewjames2649]

Ty4sharing! Nice job camera operator..

[@ret737]

Just getting to mine currently on the bench. Thanks for the vid Chris!!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! I’m sure you’ll enjoy the mig. 😊. Just be sure to put some good servos on them tails.

[@ret737]

@@Thercgeek Just got the Hitec D80 MG's

[@Mach1Airspace]

Excellent video all around. Very nice. Curious what’s the all-up weight? Many thanks.

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you! I never weighed the airplane, and unfortunately don’t have it anymore, so can’t say on the AUW. Sorry about that!

[@JohnVHRC]

love mine, fits in my truck in one piece easily too.

[@JetAlfred57]

Perfect vorgestellt und wie immer Super Video 😄😄😄👍👍👍👍

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Great video Chris..love my Mig, what a plane, thanks for sharing 👊🏼👊🏼

[@Robert-ff9wf]

Wow!!! Looks great!!!

[@DadsRCHangar]

Thanks Chris, just received mine, so will be using your tips 👍🏻

[@Thercgeek]

Awesome! She’s a good one. 😊

[@willieanderson3819]

Great flight..just got my MIG 29 yesterday and I was wondering what do you use as High Mid and Low for throws

[@Thercgeek]

I honestly couldn’t tell you. I typically hone in on the rates I like and keep them there. I’d recommend setting the recommendations in the vid as your mid rates and giving yourself a higher and lower option.

[@Future545]

Good work teacher

[@--Rafa--]

perfect display

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks!

[@rcmaniac4561]

Beautiful jet. Great video 👍.

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you!

[@TheRcKiwis]

Excellent flight and review! Such a beautful jet. What lens do you use to film? and how do you maintain focus? Very good filming!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! I’m using a canon xa11 and have focus set to manual for filming in flight.

[@avipatable]

Man that is a beautiful model and very nicely flown. I like to put a bit of thick (ish) grease on the wheel axles so it sounds less like a shopping trolley when on the ground!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! Yeah, I’m lazy on that stuff sometimes, haha

[@avipatable]

@@Thercgeek ...but very good with the attention to detail on the important parts - I like how you sorted the elevators. I'm a bit fanatical about those kind of things too.

[@Mroswaldo16]

Do you fly with gyro? I have 2 of this, blue camo (older version) & white/red with latest electronics. Scared to do the mayden 😂

[@vintageracer3734]

Mini Me at the controls! 1/12 scale Pilot in a 1/9th scale model! Kinda funny. It does look great in the air, thanks again for another nice review!

[@Thercgeek]

Right?! Haha

[@vintageracer3734]

You know what baffles me, they went to a ton of work to make this model what it is. And money. Then one of coolest details is ignored, by something so trivial. I never really noticed until you mentioned it. There might be a place close by you get a better Aviator... 😂

[@Thercgeek]

Maybe he’s just really short? Started hitting the vodka at a young age which stunted his growth. 🤣. He has to put a booster seat in just to see over the dash. 🤪

[@vintageracer3734]

@@Thercgeek I just ordered Pilots from Jet Hangar Hobbies, on your suggestion, for my Avios MiG-17, looking forward to installing them, one for each, as I have a spare cockpit. Also put all new HiTec servos in it. Flies really nice. Keep up the good work.

[@janmb]

Regarding the elevator servos, also please be aware that the recommended CG is nose heavy to the point where it is actually directly dangerous in terms of the forces it puts on the elevator during flight. Aerodynamic calculus suggests the actual neutral point of the model is as much as 40 (!) mm aft of those marks, so one can very safely move back at least 10-20mm - and get a much lighter flying model that is far easier on the elevators at the same time. Other than that, the model flies brilliantly.

[@Thercgeek]

One thing to keep in mind is that there’s a certain amount of personal preference when it comes to Cg. Some folks prefer a slightly more nose heavy airplane where others want a more neutral feel. I personally don’t like the feel of an overly neutral airplane and actually found the stock location to feel quite nice in the air and based on the batteries I used, couldn’t get it further back without adding weight to the tail anyhow. The elevator issue is more related to inadequate servos imo.

[@janmb]

I understand and respect the idea that cg preference may vary. The point in this case though is that we (lots of people on rcg and squawk) have done a lot of research on this, and the elevator issues are directly tied to the degree of nose heaviness

[@Thercgeek]

I’m with you and Yes, a more aft cg will reduce the load on the tail which in turn reduces the load at the servo. So that is one way to reduce the servo load. However, imo the issue here is not the cg placement, but rather it is inadequate and undersized servos. The servos are marginal at best for a model of this weight and size (even their replacements). My experience has been that the elevator servos are marginal in most of the larger FW jets.

[@janmb]

@@Thercgeek Definitely true. For my part I will be improving the elevator structure as well, but yes, the servos and rods are definitely the most important point

[@Thercgeek]

Good call!

[@daleyoung87]

Super NICE!!!

[@anthonyjayakody3356]

Hi Chris, awesome informative vid. It’s nice knowing you have both tomcat and the Mig. Which would you say is a more well rounded flyer? Ie performance, flight times, and bang for your buck? Thanks -Ant

[@Thercgeek]

The Mig is definitely the more we’ll rounded flyer. It’s bigger and generally more forgiving. The tomcat has the cool factor with the swing wing, but flies heavier than the mig.

[@TheBayer65]

Nice video, thank you. One question, where are the throw measuring device from ?

[@Thercgeek]

Unfortunately it’s a discontinued product. I’m working on my own version that I hope to have available soon.

[@qnoorani]

great video. is the battery replacement factory recommended? leaving the battery space in the front of the plane empty? thanks.

[@Thercgeek]

To get the cg, that’s where I needed to place my packs. That space is available if needed. If you’re using smaller capacity packs, you may need to put one battery further forward.

[@qasimnoorani7567]

@@Thercgeek thanks for the reply. much appreciated.

[@tedazlan8367]

Hi Chris...can u tell me what kind of battery connector they supply to u? Is it XT90? Thanx for the vid..i learn a lot. Keep it up..👍

[@Thercgeek]

If I recall correctly, there are ec5 connectors in there.

[@tedazlan8367]

@@Thercgeek Yeah..ure right. Its ec5. Thanx Chris n happy flying.

[@P51Dfan]

Great review. I really enjoy mine as well. I also set up my ailerons with 25 mm throws. I had tried the setting in the manual but found it way too sensitive for me. Fortunately I had put in a lower rate flight mode that turned out be 25 mm and was much more comfortable, especially with a bit of expo thrown in. I pulled my CG back about 10 mm, but my elevator trim is also only about 3 mm right now. I'm still dialing all that in. Now I'm looking for a second set of batteries. I have 70C RT 5000s. I may go bigger with less C for the next pack so the weight is about the same. The 6250s are only 20g more so that may be a good option!

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! I love the 6250 packs. They’ve become my go to for most of my edfs.

[@elijahglasser1421]

Love the views

[@scottsettleproductions]

Chris. What do you think about Spektrum A5040s vs. the D85s? Ill probably just get some D85s out of superstition...ha. Just had some A5040s laying around and noticed they have the same specs....Thanks for the video...

[@Thercgeek]

Spektrum makes good servos as well, and the 5040 is in the similar torque range. So, I think it would work fine.

[@scottsettleproductions]

@@Thercgeek Chris. So I put in the D85s. They were moving opposite so I changed them like you did to their own channel. All was good for a few min while I was adjusting....then all of a sudden....all the servos went to super small throws. Even the ailerons. What happened? Is this a voltage issue? So weird. Any thoughts?

[@Killerplanes]

They should change the name to “Mmmmmmmmmm-MiG!” Very sweet!

[@Thercgeek]

Haha, yes! 😁

[@JohnDoe-dz2wn]

Nice video thanks. 👌 Do you no where I can buy a Bell Huey JET helicopter ?. 🧐🤔

[@Thercgeek]

Oh, that’s a good question. I don’t really have a good beat on a scale heli like that.

[@tillwagner9457]

These turbine exhausts are so cool.. :D

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! 😊

[@ret737]

Chris. Getting ready to maiden mine soon. I'd like to know that while other pilots have been modifying their elevator control rods with stronger materials, have you did the modification as well or are you using the stock ones that came in the kit? From the looks of the video you used the stock ones correct??

[@Thercgeek]

Yep, I upgraded the servos and then used the stock pushrods.

[@ret737]

@@Thercgeek Ok thank you

[@dylankachmann6211]

Hey! I just got the new red star version and wanted to mess with the elevators separately. Do you mind explaining how you managed to split the elevator servos? I put tailerons on all my jets and can’t figure out how to split them, I’m guessing they are y’d together and some point through the fuselage? Would appreciate you greatly telling me how you did it

[@Thercgeek]

I’m not sure where they get y’d together. I’d recommend back tracking from the electronics board in the hatch area.

[@GrSyStAl]

How long runway do u need?

[@hughwiedman9711]

Excellent Review Chris, was kind of holding off on getting one with all the intense chatter on the elevator concerns but I think you make a good point with the servos that should certainly add some piece of mind, and your review may just have pushed me over to the buy side. I also think some, not all of the crashes, may have had something to do with signal loss and have been adding RF chokes and remote satellite RX's on all my EDF's lately and so far, so good. One question, did you "beef up" the elevator control rods at all? It also looked like Hitec D85's were a drop in fit, correct? Of course your AB's look outstanding and I wouldn't have an EDF without them (even those that are not "supposed" to have AB's). Did you line the nozzles with aluminum tape (which works great for mine)? Last question, oddly enough a couple passes in the video looked like the AB's were not on, then in another pass with a similar view on the rear end, they were bright as hell?

[@Thercgeek]

Thanks! I used the stock pushrods, but it wouldn’t hurt to replace those as well with a du-bro 4-40 setup. The d85s dropped right in and there’s a wires extension in there as well, so it made it really easy. On the burners, I painted some reflective silver paint in there. You could line with aluminum tape as well, just be sure it can’t lift up from the exhaust flow. I’ve had that happen on some other airplanes. Lastly, the burners I have setup to be on only at the very top of the throttle, so yeah there are a number of passes where the lights are off. I like to use them in a manner indicative to the full size, so they’re on only when I’m at full throttle.

[@hughwiedman9711]

@@Thercgeek When I put the aluminum tape in, I make sure it runs fore to aft in line with the thrust with the forward part starting well under the fan so there is no edge to lift off from the thrust.

[@scottsettleproductions]

@@Thercgeek Loved the video Chris. For the Mig before installing your thrusters; I used for the first time a golfer Rustoleum Metallic Finish...it has been GREAT! Seems brighter than the past and using silver color....just a thought.

[@Thercgeek]

Nice! I’ve found a nice reflective paint in the exhaust works great as well.

[@iyasidimas8973]

Its was cool, i want it 😭🥺

[@VictorHugoRC1111]

Did you observe some issues with during diving at some speed? Did you change the BEC?

[@Thercgeek]

I’ve not had any issue at all with the elevators. I did replace the servos as the stock ones are marginal at best, but I’m using the stock pushrods. BEC is the stock one as well.

[@VictorHugoRC1111]

@@Thercgeek thanks! I will change the servos with the ones supplied by MRC

[@frank-vq4mx]

Hi Chris; Would there be any benefit in balancing the elevators ?

[@Thercgeek]

Honestly, I think the best option is to just install some quality servos on the elevators. The stock ones are marginal at best imo (even their replacements). Mass balancing may help, but if they didn’t get the pivot in the right location, that means it’s not aerodynamically balanced which is a separate issue and will impart larger loads on the servo as a result regardless of mass balancing. I’m not saying they got it wrong, just noting that there are two things at play when we talk about balancing aero surfaces.

[@scottsettleproductions]

@@Thercgeek I also changes some of the screws out on the servo horns....they were very little. Just beefed them up. This is a great plane....Totally agree....We need more EDFs this size.

[@airhammer6203]

Hey Chris, have you seen the new Dynam Hawker Hunter EDF??

[@Thercgeek]

I’ve only just seen the announcement. Haven’t had a chance to check it out at all yet. Looks pretty cool from what I’ve seen!

[@johnkelley4404]

Which is easier flying and or better kit this Mig 29 or horizons su30? I'm 56 and getting back in the hobby. Have a old yellow aircraft f16 and your father's F86.

[@Thercgeek]

Well, the su-30 is a pretty amazing airplane that’s really well engineered. However, with the mig being a touch larger I found that it landed a little slower and also got longer flight times since it carries two batteries vs a single pack in the su-30.

[@johnkelley4404]

Thanks, also have seen slot of elevator problem with the mig is this figured out or should I just get those hitec d-85 servo's you mentioned? How's yours held up any problem's? Thanks again for your no BS informative channel!

[@Thercgeek]

Thank you! That’s a very good question. They are supposed to be packaged with better servos now from what I’ve seen, so you could take a look, but replacing them at least gives you a known commodity. FW has historically undersized the elevator servos on their larger models. My mig hasn’t had any issues to date (except my friend hitting throttle cut on takeoff thinking he was retracting the gear 🤣).

[@leejimerson3354]

Hi do you still have the 36mm center burners for the mig 29? If so please send me the info on how to order them. Thank you sir.

[@Thercgeek]

Yep! They’re all on my website. The 80mm twin centerburners can be ordered here: www.thercgeek.com/product/80mm-CenterBurner-V2-Twin the mig uses 36mm inrunner motors.

[@DavesRc]

Now that you have got some flight time on her. Did it feel like any other servos needed to be changed. Or weren't preforming well. ???

[@Thercgeek]

All the other servos have been working well without any issues.

[@visitor2431]

What about flaps and ailerons reflex? Can you explain more? Where can I find that info? Thanks

[@Thercgeek]

That’s all in the video. I provide my full deflection and setup recommendations. 😊

[@hughwiedman9711]

Forgot to ask you, but on the D85s, I'm only using a 6 channel RX, the AR637T and therefore must have both elevator servos on the same channel, but I assume that I would have to also put a servo reverser on one of them, since I doubt they have a D85 R. Heard you say you ended up put each elevator servo on a separate channel which would allow you to reverse one of them in the TX, no ?

[@Thercgeek]

I put them in separate channels to get the original servos to match left to right. The d85s are programmable, so with the hitec programmer you can reverse the one servo.

[@hughwiedman9711]

@@Thercgeek Thanks, that's why you're the RC Geek and I'm more like the RC Goof!

[@blohundur1881]

What would be a good second jet ?

[@Thercgeek]

What have you been flying to this point? If you’re proficient with what you’ve been flying, you could go any number of directions really. Is there a jet you’re looking at specifically?

[@blohundur1881]

@@Thercgeek I’ve been fly the viper 70mm id prefer a military jet I really want to fly the f 16 80mm but I need something that good for grass landings

[@fizahatnajib8966]

How much does it cost?

[@tonypowder3506]

Im getting this plane soon

[@Thercgeek]

Awesome! It’s a great flying edf

[@D1ckeyMouse]

North korean livery refinish please😍

[@How.bout.no.k]

Out of the F16EDF, Su30 EDF and the Mig29 EDF which one would you recommend?

[@Thercgeek]

Well, they re pretty uniquely different. I think the F-16 is the most nimble while the mig lands the best out of those mentioned. it’s also the largest too.

[@How.bout.no.k]

@@Thercgeek I am in the market to buy my first ever RC plane. I might crash it on the first flight but I can’t wait anymore. I need to have one. I’ve special love for the Su30 and mig29 my country’s airforce flys them but I might just get the F16 or F15 since they are little cheaper

[@Thercgeek]

Well, before jumping into an edf jet, you want to have some good proficiency with flying in general. If you haven’t already, pick up the realflight simulator (bit.ly/RealFlt9-5s) or something similar. It provides very good practice for learning. Also, take a look at a good trainer aircraft and get plugged into a local rc club. There’s no replacement for some individual flight training with an instructor. They’ll ensure a successful progression as you learn.

[@trtemotion8428]

I'm from Bangladesh... I also like this model.. 🥰 Can i get it?

[@mithrandir1313]

Hey Chris... are the tails mass balanced?

[@Thercgeek]

They are not mass balanced.

[@TafariLauro]

Simulated Afterburner (36mm inrunner twin) , EDF included?

[@Thercgeek]

The simulated afterburner is an add-on that I offer at thercgeek.com/cebterburner

[@TafariLauro]

@@Thercgeek ok, so I Select 80mm Option and 36mm Inrunner Twin $100.00 USD ?

[@Thercgeek]

That is correct.

[@daleyoung87]

@@TafariLauro TOTALLY worth it!!

[@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO]

RC GEEK AFTERBURNERS ROCK! 🤘🤘🤘

[@got2hokies]

Where did you get that surface deflection meter?

[@Thercgeek]

It’s called an accuthrow meter and was made by great planes. Unfortunately, it’s been discontinued.

[@muddddddddddddddddy]

I just put the same servos in my mig that you did and when you let go or move the elevators they shake violently trying to center. tried to slow them down didn't help. does yours do that?

[@Thercgeek]

I didn’t experience that at all. Could be because there’s not much load on them without the aero forces. Did you change anything other than the servos? (I.e try to mass balance the tails?)

[@muddddddddddddddddy]

@@Thercgeek Nope all I did was plug the servos into the receiver directly so I could trim them like you did I've seen some videos on KZbin about flutt er people we're putting Velcro in between the rudders and stuff but I don't know if you can do it on the style of plane. I'm sure because it's a flying stab is why cause even if the plane is just sitting there and you flick the back of the elevator it'll start fluttering.

[@Thercgeek]

That’s really strange. I’ve not had that as an issue before. What radio are you using? What happens if you apply a small load to the tail when it starts to jitter? Does it continue or does it stop? You may need to go to analog servos instead of the digitals.

[@muddddddddddddddddy]

@@Thercgeek I'm running an IX12. yeah flew fine with the stock servos but I seen you and another guy upgraded to these servos so I thought I would try them. If you touch them with a little pressure they will stop. some people were putting Velcro in between the plane and the elevator to cause a little friction to stop it. I don't think it does it in flight when it's under load but was just curious because you and the other guy didn't seem to have this issue with these servos. So if you hold full up elevator and let go of the stick yours does not flutter

[@muddddddddddddddddy]

Took a video of it kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5zHlGV4mLubaKs

[@abosl6an556]

Hello , Hello , Please help me. I have a MIG 29 80mm aircraft. I have 5000 mAh batteries and I have a problem with the blue battery handle. It is very hot and can cause the plane to burn. What is the problem to know that I only work on one fan because the first battery is empty of charge and the other is fully loaded. Is this the cause of the problem or No? Thank you

[@Thercgeek]

It sounds to me that you flew for to long a time and depleted the batteries. I’d recommend reducing your flight time down to avoid this. The batteries will get very hot when fully depleted and it significantly reduces their life span also.

[@Thercgeek]

I just caught the last bit of your comment. It sounds like the fans are only being powered by one battery pack. We’re both fans operating? I recommend verifying that as it seems as though only one may have been operating.

[@abosl6an556]

@@Thercgeek No, no, no, only ten seconds, and the handle on the battery is getting very hot

[@abosl6an556]

@@Thercgeek The fan runs on two batteries, each fan belongs to a battery, okay? But the handle is very hot and this is very strange. Could it be the fault of connecting the wires to the motherboard?

[@abosl6an556]

@@Thercgeek What is the UBEC/BEC code?

[@ВостоккотлыПинигина]

Can your provide link on shop?

[@Thercgeek]

Link for what? If you’re looking for the afterburners, they’re available at thercgeek.com/centerburner

[@ВостоккотлыПинигина]

@@Thercgeek HI! I mean, Where I can buy fully kit (airplane + Motors + RC ,etc) ?

[@Thercgeek]

It’s available from motionrc.com

[@marekbielich9238]

What is the maximum speed ?

[@Thercgeek]

I’m not 100% certain. As a guess, I’d say it’ll do about 120mph coming downhill.

[@volksyes9477]

Never mind my Arrows mig29 retracts for the F-14 comment ... this might work prettye much stronger than the one on the arrows.

[@Thercgeek]

That’s true.

[@horrorgamer6687]

Hard to believe they left all that flashing on that wing tip........

[@Thercgeek]

Unfortunately, that’s kind of the nature of the beast on some of these birds.

[@horrorgamer6687]

@@Thercgeek Honestly bro thats just poor quality control.....if it were cheap I would understand but this big piece of foam is anything but lol

[@zoraxew]

Какая максимальная скорость у него?

[@Thercgeek]

I'm not sure the top speed. It's probably doing up to about 120mph as a guess.

[@blue03r6]

now build a military style transporter plane and fly around with this inside...

[@tonyfromdiego3394]

All I have to say is butter.

[@Thercgeek]

#sheslikebuttah

[@frank-vq4mx]

Changing the servos will not make any difference ! The problems lies with the power supply. 5.0 volts is "not" enough. You will encounter an under voltage very quickly as the demand on the servos goes up. Just like when you need the elevators servos to pull you out of a dive !!!

[@Thercgeek]

Well, it’s both servo torque and voltage. At 5v the d85s have higher torque than the stock servos. So that does take care of a good portion of it. If the bec is undersized, I haven’t personally experienced any kind of issues with it. The airplane has been rock solid for me.

[@frank-vq4mx]

@@Thercgeek My comments are based on real flight telemetry.

[@leecornelius964]

I here it's a big Yard dart. Who wants a $600.00 dart.

[@Thercgeek]

Well, I understand the sentiment, but have you flown the model? That hasn’t been my experience or the experience of my friends with this model. The original elevator servos were insufficient for sure, but I swapped them out at the onset. For the price, you shouldn’t have to do that, but Generally my experience with the larger freewing models has been that the stock elevator servos are marginal, so I swap the elevator servos as standard normally. A small cost for added assurance and robustness in my mind.

[@garrykennedy5484]

Needs thrust vectoring or forget it!!!!!!! Not for that price!!!!! I have my LX models and can do EVERY maneuver the real one can. Flat spins, Cobra, you name it, I can do it if it's within 3 minutes. But it does so because of TV nozzles. How hard would it have been to do this? Not much more in cost either. In fact, in the same cost cause you buy in bulk. Sell more per month at a lower cost or sell less per month at a higher cost? Same thing, but reach more people and sell more parts as well. DUH!!!!!!!

[@Thercgeek]

From what I understand, they have a TV design mod in the works for this. That’s about all I know though.

[@cbradley0427]

What batteries are those and flight times?

[@Thercgeek]

Roaring top 6s 6250mah packs. I got over 4 minutes with those in there.