Aston Martin V12 Vantage v Porsche GT2 - By Autocar.co.uk

[@gtrman9706]

I recently bought a DB9. My last car was a Nissan GTR R35.That car was mental, the DB9 is alot slower but it is an Aston.Bucket list completed. 👍

[@DennisBerkhout1]

This my at the top of my list. The V12 Vantage is the perfect blend of 'power, beauty and soul'.

[@stamford98singhm]

My dad bought the new Aston Martin Yesterday and we drove down to London in it ...... its so fast and amazing

[@user-qq2mo1ek2r]

14 years later, it's still fast.

[@Cybergig00]

There is a man in England. Who works for a truck company, repairing trucks. Doesn't have a home, doesn't have an apartment. Or is super rich. But he has an Aston Martin v12 Vantage. He bought it with his own money. And he is my hero.

[@omfgwtfbbq90]

Who cares if there are faster cars out there than this glorious V12 Vantage. Just listen to the sound of that lovely V12. Not to mention that gorgeous styling. It's way better than that stupid Beetle GT2. And it's not like I hate Porsche, in fact I own a 944 S myself.

[@JHRobbins]

I have never been a sports car person, really, but I have always wanted an Aston Martin. There is just something about them.

[@aechdlg]

the V8 vantage has 420hp. it used to have 380hp but they upgraded it. Also porsche is really good driving machine but the Aston is also a delight to drive and it is also really beautiful, it is a piece of art.

[@hmdavis825]

I don't care that the Aston Martin is a little slower than the Porsche. The Aston looks better, sounds better, and it's a heck of a lot classier than the Porsche. I would never buy the Porsche over the Aston.

[@JamesPink-j2k]

Just bought a 20,000 mile 2010 model. Just love the monster V12, manual gearbox is a delight and with 20" DB9 GT 20s with PS4Ss, it's a really focused hotrod. So great it comes with brilliant headlights, carbon ceramics and the optional 700 watt Harmon Cardon sound system (try Genisis, Afterglow)... Awesome bolide!

[@ianrkav]

That drag race was close enough for it not to make any difference in real world on the road driving conditions! I love the Porsche but in this instance I might just take the Aston:-)

[@rsrider419]

What video were you watching? The Aston got bloody slaughtered!

[@ianrkav]

@@rsrider419 You're responding to a 9 year old comment of mine. That's what amazes me about YT but anyway, I think I would still take the Aston:-)

[@user-qq2mo1ek2r]

On the road, the difference is tiny, yes the Porsche won by about a second on a closed airfield. On the road there is very little between them and yes the Aston every time for me.

[@buckolaci]

The host reminds me of a younger more ambitious Onslow from Keeping Up Appearances. AHHHH NICE

[@JJ-bo4ir]

I don't care that the Aston didn't win that race all I know is that I would always choose an Aston over a porsche

[@RohanGillett]

Super video, thanks for posting! Actually walking around my neighbourhood here in Takaido, Tokyo I noticed one of my neighbours has this car :)

[@JETZcorp]

The McLaren F1 is in the NA Supercar category as well. Don't think the Aston would have too much hope against that, either. How does the 0-60 compare between this Aston and a Gallardo, I'm wondering?

[@MeSsSs1983]

@e36mmm It's actually 6.2L v8 producing 500hp@9200rpm plus 2 electrical motors for additional 218hp

[@phv628]

@trento728 The porsche uses a horizontally opposed flat 6, not a V6

[@vantage789]

What's funny is that the 09 Jag XKR went from 420hp to 510hp (in the '10) and it wasn't really made out to be that big of a deal. Yet they dropped the V12 in the Vantage also bumping the power to 510 from 420 in the V8 and everyone is treating it like such an epic achievement and now a true supercar.

[@user-qq2mo1ek2r]

True, but Jaguar just doesn't stir the emotions like Aston Martin, the name alone carries so much kudos that Jaguar can't hope to emulate. A reply 14 years after your post and the same is still true.

[@vantage789]

@@user-qq2mo1ek2r ​​⁠Geeze talk about a comment resurrection. Yeah Jaguar is still a disappointment. But also Aston has now passed peak design. The DB11/12 is a bloated monstrosity compared to the sexy chiseled DB9/S of this era.

[@user-qq2mo1ek2r]

@@vantage789 not at all true, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you feel Aston has passed peak design then I'm afraid Jaguar has gone back to the horse and cart in design. The current and new Vantage are great designs, the DB12 stunning, I will allow you the DBX is not their finest but the Valkeyrie is epic in its engineering prowess once you see in detail how it was designed and built, it is incredible. Jaguar has lost its identity, all SUV and poor quality build and reliability.

[@AdrianC12345]

Plus, where are you going to fit a 6 liter V12 in the Porsche?

[@davejarvis]

The ZR1 ran on street legal slick tyres plus was the time an official verified time?

[@StarWarsPlace]

@jakewars it is a little jingle on imovie that comes with macs

[@sspope]

V12 in Vantage is NA which means it's more controllable than the TT H6. Turbo umpf can kill when you press the pedal hard in a corner.

[@loicdore39]

Check out this: evo 9 vs Aston Martin v12 vantage , the vantage keeps up pretty well considering the evo was a race car with 600hp slick tyres and all and the vantage is fully stock !

[@Wenny1963]

@atami210 what about like mountain climbing and the sort? Porsche was built for mountain racing was it not?

[@AdrianC12345]

And how many turbos does it have? How many intercoolers? I know that you can get a 3.2 liter into 700hp territory. But it's also a V8 so that could also be why.

[@2fight4]

@nickeroo so 13bhp more for the Porsche is a big difference in power output for you???!!!

[@Marcoshary]

Simply my 2 favorite brands there! Great cars!

[@ChillBuddha]

V12 Vantage: A gorgeous singer GT2: A pretty good looking athlete hard to choose really, but i cant ignore that awesome V12 roar

[@SASJACOB]

Sure he lost the drag race, but he'll win with the ladies simply by the ASTONishing looks.

[@jarrus464]

The GT2 does have an unfair advantage though, it's got semi slick track day tyres as standard, I reckon if both had them then the aston would have kept up with the gt2, but I'm not sure if it would beat it though, but ether way, I would have the aston over the gt2 ANYDAY

[@TheStallion234]

Did he say its a 1/4 of a regular V8 vantage at 2:03? How does that make any sense?

[@BeThUkE]

Wow! A V-12 lost to a flat-6 engine!That's some real engineering they got going on at Porche. =)

[@khashman93]

@energyfinance The aston martin V-12 vantage, the one in the video, has two seats so i do not understand your argument; where are you going with this?

[@mitchy1990s]

@RRVVWW73 they do not both move in a clockwise way. the left moves clockwise, and the right moves counterclockwise so they both move outward and then upward toward each other. Not to my liking. who would want rpms to move counterclockwise? it changes the natural movement that your eyes look for as the rpms climb. it simply messes with your head in my opinion

[@lotuselanplus2]

If you placed the two of them side by side which one would get all the attention something that is basically over 30 years old or one of the best looking cars ever made??

[@mustangsdiehard1fan]

I'm talking about the Koenigsegg,I know top gears were made a long time ago since the early 20th Century,right.I was actually saying that Koenigsegg aren't that old they were starting in 1994.I mean that was 15 years ago and they are still in business.

[@TheUberPlayboy]

@milesdavisblackmx5 are the cayenne and panamera "pure driving machines"?

[@jakebelder]

At 4:18 does he have the A/C on?

[@karmahunden]

I know the GTR isnt a drag car but you mentioned it on this video where there's a drag. Also, why mention the GTR? who brought it up?

[@TAKECOVER222]

@crazyboyxx i agree but then why put a V12 in it?

[@rcade99]

I agree, the entire Aston Martin line are great looking cars.. the best design out right now ( that others are copying ) without getting ridiculous, with something like a Zonda.. my other favorite.

[@mercatorish]

This car is soo damn beautiful. Compact, elegant, sportive - and I love the interior. Among (more or less) exclusive brands, Porsche is a mass manufacturar ( ~ 90. - 100.000 units) even though I do admire Porsche engineering. It's just the fact that an Aston is so exclusive. Ulrich Bez has influenced this brand sustainably, especially the quality and the finish. He's never tried to change Aston's culture, rather is he contributing his impressive Know How as a former Porsche engineer.

[@ramindavani]

The main reason that Aston lost is its heavier weight. Also, porchea has bigger pistons which makes every displacement of the gear way more powerful that of Aston's. I have been a mechanic for more that 25 years and I am familiar with these cars. Both are awesome cars.

[@casey88camaro]

i saw this car today at the gas station,funny thing is it was a country gas station and i almost pee'd myself when i saw it because i was so surprised,so much better looking and sounding in person.i love the vantage.

[@AlternativeUses]

Its not a fair fight. The v8 vantage is like a carrera S and the V12 is like the GT3. Prices for the aston may be aligned with higher model porsches but that reflects the exclusivity of the astons, not their performance. Also, a drag race isn't really a measure of a better car

[@2fight4]

you are absolutely right, the Aston is a very cool GT-car , while the Porsche is more of a "racing" sportscar. The Porsche for the track and the Aston for getting to the track ;)

[@ThePolarOObear]

That was a real good one, mate! :D cheers from germany ^^

[@SmokysRides]

Excellent review! Great detail!

[@MikeTampa]

@BonhommeHero I totally agree, plus look at the dynamics of both car. Both Rear Wheel drive cars only the GT2 has the engine at the back pushing down on the rear wheels, getting everything out of the engine. The Aston now has a big V12 in the front, which doesn't help in getting more downforce to the Rear wheels. But the elegance and grace of the Aston more than make up for the fact that the Aston can't beat a GT2 in a straight line. I would have the Aston over the GT2 every day of the week.

[@MrSukhoi25]

@sultanabran1 Thanks for the comment, and you're right, I guess I wish it could have both speed and cool gadgets

[@MrCosmin94]

@PopaDom1000 V12 sound? probably sounds good...but I like flat six with 2 kickass turbos xD

[@003590510]

@cyclingguy3 I agree with you, I got to drive the Carbon Black V12, made a vid. Amazing car experience and this is coming from a driving event where I get to drive all the 2011 porsches on tracks all day. I wouldn't even look at the porsche if the Aston is available to me. That V12 can make you feel amazing downshifting and hearing it pop and gurgle and laugh out loud when you get on it. Im going to buy one God willing in a two months from today...

[@josef959]

Why is the wheel on the left side of the car?

[@ianrkav]

That's what I thought but it didn't say that in the lap time! Common sense would tell you that the V12 in a lighter car would go better but according to the board it was 1:26.8 !

[@Laser100man]

It is true that, yes Astons are not the fastest cars in the world, but GOD they are adorable, lovable cars. I am a huge Gallardo LP560 fan, but I admit no other supercar has these wonderful lines. Go Aston V12 Vantage!!!

[@TypeDoubleR]

AM is made in UK?

[@iLuvSmartCars]

it's a very pretty car. but it does seem a bit loud. Love the look! 510hp is all though?

[@clintz28]

come on guys...360p?

[@adaorlando]

the Aston Martin V12 Vantage is soo beautiful but i prefer the Porsche 911 GT2 in desing and engine....nice video :)

[@ultimativePwnage]

I really love Porsche and - as a german guy - i appreciate the legendary aspects of motorsports etc...BUT i have to admit that the Aston Martin's looks are great and the sound is great as well... Porsche is the racing car for the road and Aston Martin is the roadcar build to race ;)

[@RRVVWW73]

Does anyone know what's going on with the speedometer and tach at 2:34?

[@carknowledge7428]

Just add some quicksilver, tubi, etc..headers and exhaust and that aston would be a symphony to our ears!!! Love how it looks!!

[@003590510]

I think the rivals of the v12 are the R8 GT 5.2 and 599 GTB, Bentley SS GT or GT3 RS. The GT2 is another kind of car. I have a feeling that Aston were not looking for GTR's or GT2's when making this car. You even said, "three quarters GT3 and one quarter Vantage" You should have raced it against the benchmark they were aiming for.

[@mustangsdiehard1fan]

Which foreign cars are the best and upper class for each of the foreign cars?Name them please?

[@Skiddins]

@ScDruMstylez It does only need a 3.6l for the same power.........with a turbo!

[@MeSsSs1983]

@sw1000xg You might reconsider if you've got a chance to own any of them. Performance doesn't only mean "Raw Power". It's a pleasure driving experience. Don't judge anything with numbers, try to feel it.

[@turbozamboni]

@Cybergig00 Yeah, his name is Guy Martin and he bought it with his prize money from racing in the Isle of Man TT. He's my hero too.

[@gkh50]

took V12 for a spin today (thinking of trading in the V8). within 10 meters I realised its a beast... can I tame the beast is the next question!!

[@mustangsdiehard1fan]

I'm not a mustang person with cars,they're my baseball team.Can you um please tell me what are the best foreign upper class cars from Europe only?Tell me each car brand for Europe.

[@randombloke10]

@JeanFrenchCroissant well i can tell you've never driven one before, they handle brilliantly they do have good performance stats and yes it shouts look at me i'm the best looking car here the manual gear boxes are fine and the automatics(touchtronic2) are incredible also see grand tourer.

[@peonunion]

you have to be either a real nerd or a true race car driver to love and enjoy the GT2 without dying. Aston Martin ftw!

[@e36mmm]

@AdrianC12345 porsche just made a 3.2L v8 with 700hp. You need to believe in technology and hope because they are both there and Porsche has set the benchmark 2 days ago at the Geneva Motorshow with the 918 Spyder. Tell me what you think of it..

[@jimjabbo]

so why is it left hand drive?

[@khashman93]

@cyclingguy3 do you tell yourself that when Porsches blow by you

[@StriderCX]

@cyclingguy3 Well considering that the Porsche has half the engine size it's pretty sad that it beat the Vantage at all. Honestly the Aston Martin producers need to start pumping more HP into that V12... and they can due to its size.

[@JonathanCM1991]

Both are incredible car manufacturers.

[@Howitzer909]

the 612 scaglietti has 540bhp, i suppose that's ineffecient too?

[@LostChildOfTime]

I'd rather have the aston than the porsche. The GT2 will run rings around the aston, but... if you really like how the Aston looks, you will probably think it is one of the most loveliest cars ever in production (the DBS especially). I'd buy an Aston Martin because it does deliver plenty of power, it's delivers beauty the size of the sky. And soul? Honestly, I won't know. I just hope I'll never be convinced to sell my soul for one before I can find out first hand.

[@xmeda]

What about Vanquish?

[@n1Erik]

It depends on the displacement.

[@user71285]

Aston Martin makes one of the worlds best GT cars. Sure, they aren't as fast as some of the others. But if I were to buy this car, it would be more of a daily driver. It just looks so stunning... classy, yet mean. I love it :)

[@cliffhangerscal]

@Rawsawn you can't really say that cos the veyron is inaccesable.

[@mustangsdiehard1fan]

Whitch nationality cars are the best?

[@bcsngan]

Did you even watch the video? It's stripped out with way less noise insulation, stiffened suspensions, DBS gearbox, new lightweight hood with slots, splitter in the front and lastly.. carbon ceramic brakes. Since when did they put carbon ceramic brakes in non-track oriented cars? If you're talking about the V8 vantage, you're right, but you shouldn't be commenting here then.

[@austprior]

power is wonderful but there comes a point in every gear heads life where beauty trumps power. Aston Martin is that beauty.

[@carmodifire]

they do, but not a lot. technically, Bugatti is french too, so is corvette. but i am not french. Koennigsegg is swedish, and volvo or saab is too. lotus was originally British made, but Malasia bought it; its still british

[@mustangsdiehard1fan]

Oh I knew that Bugatti is French,but I only thought that they only made one brand for Bugatti now there is two French cars.Bugatti and Renault are only french cars.Koennigsegg I've never heard of them,but Volvo is still Swedish.Saab isn't Swedish anymore,because General Motors bought them.If Lotus is British still,then why Malasia bought them,because now they're making them in Malasia now.They use to be British but not anymore.How'd you find out that Lotus are making them in Malasia now?

[@karmahunden]

can the GTR Spec-V beat the Viper ACR?

[@ScDruMstylez]

@lusteraliaszero well if thats so why should you put an v12 6 liter engine into that car if has just the purpose of a smooth ride before a fast one i think the gt2 is just better engineered

[@ianrkav]

The DBs was 2.9secs faster around the Top Gear track than the Vantage V12! How come? Even the new Virage was faster around the track. 0.5sec slower than DBs but 2.4sec quicker than Vantage V12!

[@redtesta]

I Like this guy much more then the other tool they had. I like the format ...

[@003590510]

I get to test drive the v12 on oct 5! I'm ordering one!

[@StarWarsPlace]

@jakewars I already have that as my intro in my videos, if that is good enough. =P

[@unknownunknowns]

So you think that having a $100,000+ should be always flashy? Maybe, those owners happen to believe that flashiness is not always equated to quality (which they are probably looking for) of the ride (for regular roads), materials, etc. That Aston Martin may look flashy but as the reviewer pointed out, it has flaws, such as a clunky gear box and a stiff ride.

[@DumpValvesAndDnB]

Aston are actually very successful at racing GT cars and their road cars dynamic's are meant to be VERY good.

[@smookiens2]

I love aston's car's they r soo beatyfull and they have class and elegance. I dream to have one of new astons in the future mayby when I will have 40years... I hope

[@MeSsSs1983]

If you make that engine V10 or V12, you'll get more horsepower but narrower power band. Also, I don't think this hybrid supercar is for fuel efficiency, it looks more like additional power plant to me. Maybe Porsche is trying to make their car easier to drive.

[@Tolmalion]

and how u guys explain production cars lap times on Nurburing: 1.Radical SR8(not really a production car) 6:55 2.Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7.22 3.Maserati MC-12 7:24.3 4.Zonda F ClubSport 7:24.7 5.Ferrari Enzo 7:25.3 6.Corvette C6 ZR1 7:26.4 7.Nissan GT-R 7:26.7 8.Carrera GT 7:28.7 9.911 GT2 7:32 Viper and Vette seem to be american enough to me

[@supermanyourtube]

maybe they didnt put more power in because the gear box couldnt handle it or because the handling would have been compramised

[@esteem2]

Dollar for Dollar its a fair comparison, however, The Aston Martin has the "WoW" factor. The Porsche (despite that its a GT2) is a very common car on the streets today. You think you need that much speed but more than likely you'll never get your money's worth unless you're on the track. With that being said, I'll take the V12 as my next ride.

[@maverick223]

ferrari used to make 3.5L V12s as did bugatti. 6L is a very standard size for a V12. a 6L V8 is a large engine