Why Astrology is DAMNED by Religion & Science with Astrologer Rick Levine

[@eriwendikhaila]

Rick you are a wealth of knowledge. A worldly treasure.

[@RickLevine]

🙏🏻

[@davidbrother2200]

Victor Hugo wrote, "there is no army in the world strong enough to stand against the force of an idea whose time has come." For me, astrology is that force.

[@Yasumi_Hoshikawa]

Powerful!

[@RickLevine]

@@Yasumi_Hoshikawa Yes.

[@jeffersonbyron3494]

A trick : you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching lots of of movies lately.

[@elironan2686]

@Jefferson Byron definitely, have been using flixzone for since december myself :)

[@carolinehamm6109]

I greatly appreciate Rick’s perspective. His expertise, his mastery, and his maturity are truly informative and refreshing in this era of thoughtless spewing of “beliefs.” Please continue this dialogue with more contributors on this level. A lofty goal, to be sure!!!😉 This is a necessary and beneficial conversation. And beautifully served when presented by a true scholar with wise considerations of the wholistic elements in play. Thank you, Rick! We are much richer as a community for your thoughtful contributions. 🙌🏻

[@RickLevine]

Thank you, Caroline. 🙏🏻

[@theresapelham1918]

Dang Rick I would really love to sit next to you on a plane! What fun it would be!

[@RickLevine]

So where are we going? 😜

[@janehall6587]

Anytime, anywhere.

[@juliekongs4856]

Thank you so much for having Rick on weekly. I really look forward to learning from him.

[@lenagad]

Rick Levine, so inspiring! I like that you give Tycho Brahe ( like you pronunciation) credit! He recruited Kepler to help him at the court of Rudolf 11 in Prag and when Brahe died he became the court astronomer there! Thanks to Kepler he could make sense of all observations Brahe had done as Kepler was more In Denmark and even Sweden to this day there is a saying! This is a Tycho Brahe Day

[@lenagad]

I was not finished sorry! We still have Tycho Brahe days in Scandinavia that means it’s a bad day, unlucky day! In Denmark he found 32 and 4 lucky! The Swedish ones are different! I haven’t investigated this, but caught my mind when u started talking about Tycho Brahe! My brain love to hear your thinking🙏🏻 Light Energies 🌟

[@RickLevine]

@@lenagad Thanks for this added information. 🙏🏻 🌠

[@esotaraalchemicastrologyan6255]

I could listen to Rick for hours and be intrigued the whole time!!! Thank you sharing your knowledge Rick and thank you to Amanda for being a bright soul in this world and creating Astrology Hub to share this knowledge with everyone!!

[@lynwilson4773]

The flowers are beautiful blooms today, Rick!🌻🌹

[@valeriemayer420]

👂I hear my Mom in my head saying to "Rick"....."How'd you get so SMART?"🤓 AMAZING MIND! I can't wait to start Rick's course 🙂 Blessings 💞V

[@RickLevine]

🙏🏻

[@MartinChiuStudio]

Master astrologer shines like a brilliant star.

[@tcmstudios]

Wow!! I am loving Amanda and Rick, having this amazing Astrology Hub is so wonderful. Thank You!! I've studied the Healing Arts for 28 years, and I am still shocked when my clients are so surprised when I mention that I am studying Astrology. What??? It just continues to surprise me.

[@VDOVault]

I remember being a kid, first reading Linda Goodman's Sun Signs (a very very popular astrology book published in 1968, the year before I was born) at age 8 & being fascinated by it, then it wasn't until when I was age 10-12 or so where I bought a proper beginner's astrology book (so think 1979 / early 1980s) that had ephemeris in it (to figure out where all those other bodies were located, the ephemeris were tables you looked each of them up on, moon, Mercury, Venus, etc through Pluto, no midpoints, no Chiron (it was discovered in 1977), no other asteroids, no Lunar Nodal axis, no parts whether the Part of Fortune or other Arabic Parts, you did at least get your ascendent, your midheaven / MC & you used a Placidus house system, no discussion of other house systems, & no discussion of other astrologies like Vedic/sidereal, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Egyptian etc). You had to look up all those placements in the back of the book, then using a pencil or a pen fill them in on a blank wheel in the astrology book to get your chart, draw the lines between them to delineate your aspects, then look up 'cookbook' interpretations for all the placements. AND *this* was a big revolution to learning astrology as a beginner. The quantum leap that came to astrology in the 1980s was astrological software (loading the ever-growing ephemeris into a table the computer & software did all the work) where astrologers could run your chart for you, print it out & mail (or fax if you needed it rushed) it to you for a very small fee & this was pre-Internet. Now there's sites like astro.com where you can probably get most of what it took a few hours to do by hand in a few seconds. Interpretation is still tricky (a lot of what those DIY astrology books said was pretty generic & could be wrong, you were limited in the bodies you used, orbs, aspects emphasized, other house systems), but at least now there are so many other places & ways to study, so much easier access to so many people who are pushing astrology forward. We definitely live in more interesting 'astrology positive' times.

[@RickLevine]

Well said. ✨✨✨

[@VDOVault]

@@RickLevine There's a lot of the *history of studying* astrology that I think is going unacknowledged & being taken for granted.

[@1wer819]

Fabulous program! Learning so much! Understanding, connecting positions and gaining wisdom. Most grateful!!!!

[@jennifermcalchemy9816]

Amanda, you are a guiding light in my life leading me where I need to go!!!! Bless you all. 🙏🏼🌈❣️✨💎

[@browneyelady6726]

Great lecture.. I could watch you every night. Thank you

[@dbrowne9341]

this is a great episode thank you Amanda and Rick!!

[@morgana9981]

I absolutely love the "Cosmic Connection". Thanks you two.

[@melissamoore521]

Great show! 'Kabbalistic Astrology, The Sacred Tradition of The Hebrew Sages' by Rabbi Joel C. Dobin, is a real eye opener for the folks who might still feel 'guilty' for feeling the draw of astrology.

[@ninadsouza9443]

Rick is the best. He's a complete encyclopedia. Love his explanations.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@hglatGAIA]

This was so interesting. There have been times I have really felt like looking more into Zoroastrianism. So fascinating the breadth of Gnosis Rick has! Thanks guys.

[@jenniferaldrich4434]

The historical knowledge that Rick has is such a gift to us all! Thank you 🙏

[@Hermesvenus09]

Oh my stars!!! Brilliant! Thanks Rick Levine! ✨❤️

[@comet6907]

love this conversation lovely humans. I am here in portland, in the fires- its depressing, beyond sad and wondered about the astrology around this

[@andrianikoupolisweliky7856]

A true master! Thank you Rick for bringing your wealth of knowledge forward! How do you hold all of these details in your brain?! Humbled, amazed and hungry for your show every week! Thank you!

[@christinemichele2318]

If I wasn’t listening to this mostly by podcast on a walk, I’d be jumping up and down, clapping and exclaiming, “yes!” You just summed up the conversations of my life with people who have always told me that I am nuts for believing in and using astrology. I’m not the one who is nuts 😀🙏🏼💖

[@willowauswald1407]

!0! ImAGininG Y0ur AnTiCsSs! FUN~nY ; ) ThAnksSs! ~WiLL0w~

[@adellelouise8596]

How interesting. You guys pick the best topics. & this guy is an absolute legend.

[@mstc7]

Chris Brennan, Yes! And much more Traditional Astrology in general in Astrology Hub please!

[@suZfe0211]

I like to open my comment with quoting a famous fictional figure: "Please, sir, I want some more". Then I like to send a big thank Amanda for this awesome platforme, bringing all these wonderful people sharing astrological wisdom and learning. This truly brings wow factor to my life. On the wish for more can Rick be persuaded to enlighten us on how the discovery of the outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, were/ are being interpreted into western astrology. I'm curios to that historical process. Again thank you for this lecture.

[@RickLevine]

Good question! We'll put it on the list.

[@nancyappleby274]

'On earth as it is in heaven'. ... Now 'as above, so below' 🤔🤔🤔 ... Smart connection

[@MB.77]

I literally cannot get enough. I need more. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

[@sinecast]

These Friday conversations are the best!

[@Good4TheBodyGood4TheSoul]

I love your candor, both of you. Thank you.

[@LotusLady9]

Thank you Amanda & Rick; Happy Friday! For some reason I keep thinking of the Three Wise Men and the Star of Bethlehem. Isn't there some astrology involved there? "Magi"? Don't know just throwing that out there. I am not an astrologer, but I try to learn the basics and I am also a Christian. God gave us the planets, stars, and history. No conflict for me. I need all the help I can get! 🌞

[@VDOVault]

There's a modern branch of astrology called 'Magi Astrology'. I only have a few (used) books on it, the organization that certifies people as Magi Astrologers keeps a pretty tight control (almost trade secret level) on their practices unless you pay for them & it's not all that inexpensive to train in the Magi School. I do know Magi astrology adherents pay close attention to parallels & contra-parallels, declinations & timing when figuring out aspects & transits. If you contact a Magi on a 'red day' & they don't know you (for example the 9th & 10th of September were Magi red days because not only was Mars going retrograde, there were some exact contra-parallels of bodies they consider important on those 2 days), they may not respond to you because among other things you should avoid on Magi red days are meeting new people and/or starting new relationships and/or starting new business. Magis pay A LOT of attention to timing, they are known for taking great pains in choosing not just relationship partners but wedding days, for choosing business partners as well as careful attention to the day & timing of launching a business venture.

[@LotusLady9]

@@VDOVault sounds sketchy.

[@VDOVault]

@@LotusLady9 I haven't investigated Magi astrology deeply, I haven't been willing to make that kind of blind investment up front to learn their astrology. I know they do advise a lot of people in the corporate & finance worlds on things like corporate formations (the date to incorporate) or when to time an initial public offering (IPO) of stock. I know there are other ways to do financial astrology but the Magi are also big into it (you can look up some of their teachings online, it's also written about generally in their books most of which I think have gone out of print in the Internet age).

[@LotusLady9]

@@VDOVault Thanks. Yea, I have heard of people using the services of an astrologers for financial decisions etc.My interest is in spiritual development and learning where my chart can help me understand my life better.🌞

[@VDOVault]

@@LotusLady9 I love seeing people come back to the spiritual side of astrology. The Magi school is out there, but it's just one of many approaches to studying astrology & interpreting charts. There is some spirituality in Magi but I think they are more about precisely timing things to maximize life opportunities & minimizing the 'bad stuff'. Where as say an evolutionary astrologer like Steven Forrest is more about learning from life ('bad' stuff can be a good teacher) & seeing everyone progress forward. Or a psychological astrologer (beginning with Carl Jung, then James Hillman, Liz Greene, Mark Jones) looks at astrology from a psychology-informed approach. You have so many more ways to learn astrology now (thanks Amanda & Rick).

[@rachelbennett836]

I used to watch Rick speak at soul food books monthly, while I lived in Washington... he even read my chart... I miss seeing him give live lectures. I have since moved to Dallas Texas and I am so grateful for technology and the ability to still see him on youtube 😁 This specific video has been so valuable since I have been judged harshly by my extremely religious family members for being a student of astrology. The love I have for the stars resonates with my soul and is borderline obsession.😋

[@barbaraoconnor866]

ONCE AGAIN😊 OMGosh Rick just expands my mind into acceptance if what I have known ALL ALONG to be TRUTH. No words of my own in my own mind ever quantified the feelings inside me like Rick does when he speaks. Bless you both🙏❤

[@jacquelinemartin9420]

Love these conversational experiences Please keep them coming.

[@jadabrueggeman9422]

I love this channel but this is the absolute most informative and best I’ve heard yet especially comparing to modern day religion thank you thank you thank you.

[@Alyrinna]

The validation you are providing my to my soul. Thank you Rick 🙏🏼✨💙

[@dorisinhulsen9510]

This answers so many things for me. Question that I have asked myself for so many years. That I didn’t know enough or couldn’t find the answers, this has opened up so many doors for me. My understanding life has just grown a whole level. Thank you so much.

[@lynwilson4773]

I have always had a very strong attraction/connection to Egyptology and Grecian anthology..Fascinating!

[@jennifermcalchemy9816]

WOW! POW❣️✨💥Thank you Merlin💫. I look forward to “Foundations”. 🌈💥☄️✨🔥👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@honorrocke6997]

Thank you Rick for your great teaching today. So resonates with me. Gosh I wish you had been my teacher as a child, I would have been a very different person. 💚🌻💚🌻💚🌻💚🌻💚

[@scathach2010]

Great as usual. Thanks! I have been studying astrology intensely as only a Moon conjunct Mars in Gemini in the 8th house can for a few years now and have even done some readings for people. I am taking it to the next level this year as I implement astrology into a coaching program. So I am brushing up on the basics with you Rick. Signed up yesterday evening. Looking forward to learning with you.

[@nishasankaran]

Wow. Great insight on the vedic and western...issue so to speak. Around 22m mark. Interesting to consoder that because western astro was forced underground....it kind of stayed truer to the ancient practice. And researchers found those links. I am hindu and studied vedic but i live in the U.S. and find that western astro is more accurate for natal readings. A 4th generation vedic astrologer living in the US told me that her grandfather said that vedic astrology for natal readings wasnt done until recent times. He used vedic only for the Panchang...auspicious dates, seasons etc. But nothing natal. Interesting.

[@danajackson336]

You are both oozing beautiful awesomeness this eve.

[@Crescentlight11]

Many thanks to you both, such an important topic to enlighten us about.

[@anamaria7583]

This was amazing! Always enjoy Rick’s history lessons- much appreciated ✨🙏🏽.

[@tonesfreeman1769]

Fascinating information. Much appreciated.

[@ali-es2ye]

Thank you..wonderful talk once again! 👏

[@erika.ohiyesa]

Excellent talk. Thank you both so much!

[@nurylopez7028]

Wonderful to hear you are well Rick !!💫

[@olivierdef.3496]

Beauty and wisdom, Amanda and Rick merlin, merci ! ☆ It was very interesting. Religions (exoterism) and science denied esoterism and that's the big problem of our damned modern world ! Blessings from France

[@zullyashergo8876]

So loved ❤ this information and piece of history told so masterly by Mr Rick Lavin. Thank you so much dear Amanda for having him with this theme of the Origins of Astrology and science and religion. Bring some more of these Thank you!

[@bezantler23]

This is superb fundamental information about time, sheesh!! 💥😀💥

[@LoneStarGemini]

This is such an awesome discussion, despite the somewhat oversimplified approach to “religion.” My favorite “Rick Video” so far!! 🌙☀️🙏♊️💙💫✨

[@Good4TheBodyGood4TheSoul]

The Aramaic Version of which I am familiar (The Lord's Prayer is as follows): Oh Thou, from whom breath of life comes Who fills all realms of sound, light, and vibration May your light be experienced in my utmost holiest Your Heavenly domain Approaches Let your will come true in the Universe, just as on Earth Give us wisdom for our daily need Detach the fetters of faults that bind us, as we let go the guilt of others Let us be detached from superficial things And let us be free from that which keeps us from our true purpose From You comes the all working will, the lively strength to act, the song that beautifies all and renews itself from age to age. Sealed in trust, faith, and truth. It is so beautiful and profound.

[@amandawalsh2998]

Wow! Thank you for posting! This is just amazing... so beautiful.

[@Good4TheBodyGood4TheSoul]

@@amandawalsh2998 I am glad it resonates with you. It is my daily morning prayer and it really elevates any thought, hope, or idea I could have about a Supreme Being Deity.

[@bevhustins9290]

yes 'thank you' !....worth saving & re-sharing ! xo

[@NaomiBSS7]

I enjoy all of Rick's shows, as well as you, Amanda. You are an wonderful interviewer and organizer of the Astrology Hub and I am learning a great deal. I can see how your corporate background was so necessary to give you the skills to run a truly excellent program. However, Rick, just a few points here: What is referred to as "the glory of ancient Greece" is just that, Greece or Hellas. Hellenism is a later period of history, approximately a century later, a culture encouraged and birthed by Alexander the Great, a Macedonian who conquered Greece along with a huge chunk of the ancient world. Hellenism is a syncretic system that combines the ancient cultures of Greece, Persia, and India. So yes, I would not be surprised to see a growth and expansion of astrological knowledge during this period. Much of the foundational text of the Jewish Kabbalah is an astrological text. As in Christianity and Islam, in Judaism too, the mystical branch of the religions was driven underground and the rational beliefs won out. I know that in Judaism, it was the effect of the European Enlightenment. Not sure when that happened with the other two Abrahamic religions. This foundational text, the Sefer Yetzirah or literally the Book of Creation, I was taught by my teacher, a Rabbi, is so old that its origin disappears into the mists of ancient history. Some believe it dates to Abraham or even earlier, which would date it to ancient Sumeria which predates the Babylonian period. I cannot compare the astrology in this text with what we are practicing because I am new to astrology, this being my second year of study, and I took a course in the Kabbalah before that when all I knew were the names of my Sun, Moon, and Rising signs but I could not have told you what they meant. By the way, it is from this region, Mesopotamia, that we get the 360 degree circle with its mathematics that gave us the 60 sec/min. and 60 min/hr. Whether they had that system of time, I 'm not sure. I thought they did and that what you describe with the unequal hours was medieval Europe, not the Middle East. There was much wisdom in the ancient Middle East, as well as India and China that did not reach the West till the latter part of the medieval period and the Renaissance. As for mathematics, the concept of zero as represented by a symbol, with the numerals and used in arithmetic and the decimal system came from India, brought to Europe during the Golden Age of Islam, 700-1000 CE by the Arab traders. Sorry, this old retired high school history teacher really had to speak here. Naomi Santoro Virgo Sun, Capricorn Rising - ha, I guess that's pretty evident! : )

[@sophieb8578]

This was excellent!!

[@bevhustins9290]

could not of said it any better than Caroline Hamm's comment below....well said ! & may I just add, that Rick is a fine unique relay well versed source of information....where I actually feel I've learned at least something from his talks....most other astrologer's, I feel it's more like I've just been lathered up with extra scented soapy opinions....I do enjoy these chats between Amanda & Rick, & they make a nice team giving a well rounded view of so many aspects of astrology, relaxed easy & funny conversations - they compliment each other very well ! Thank you to both ! xo

[@melaniebruce8310]

Really fascinating- thankyou

[@DREAMER-uq4gh]

'Seems like it is within me'; Reminds me of being knocked out in an accident when just five years old, and literally, 'seeing stars'., befor regaining consciousness

[@selvasanasana5637]

I wonder what would happen if we had a Saturn based calendar... Kronological 😅 Thank you so much!!! Such an amazing interview-lesson!!!

[@skyblue-lb9kr]

Yippee! Good going, Amanda! xxx

[@theresapelham1918]

The best...thank you two

[@cynthialester8348]

Fascinating. I love it.

[@coolguy90889]

#300 LIKE :) This was such an informative & extremely interesting information. Love Rick & this series!!

[@nikkic9340]

Wow this was really amazing! Thank you!!

[@danajackson336]

I feel like such an outcast Badass because this is my jam

[@claraalexandrapasquali5408]

Thank you what a treat💫

[@kimplumb5863]

Loved this!!

[@beebeetee9957]

Wow absolutely fantastic thank you!

[@cherylwurtenberger7963]

I would love to sit next to you on a plane, I am quite a talker, so my kids say, on subjects I am excited about. All in good fun. Loved the video, enlightening,

[@Msgo4more]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@lindaholman9786]

It is a fine art because you must know a lot inordee to apply the science of it.

[@Solar10101]

Thank you. :)

[@DreamDetective]

A suggestion Rick could you pause more so Amanda can ask questions. Some of us need more time to digest what you are saying. Thanks.

[@klichtblauschierts9743]

First day of HOMESCHOOLING .... and astrology fit perfectly with astronomy and our area of earth no longer receiving direct sunlight for photosynthesis, how first people’s and modern people’s prepared, thru small steps that would lead to big results later.... like composting, seed collecting, harvesting, organizing..... and serving, who has assisted us and how we can serve others.....and how Virgo season also represents these small steps, for selves and others, that ripple out to great affect. They are writing personal thank you s all month to all those that serve for the sake of it all month. These archetypes, these planetary systems.... we are already fractals of the larger bodies... so astrology really “makes sense” to them. We are all A whole lotta fire and air, so they were also able to be gentler with themselves for our NEED to ground to focus at these times. Thank you for all your knowledge so that I can impart at least a basic level feel for my 1st, 4th, and 8th graders. 🌈🌱so appreciate it

[@jaxwhiteley6743]

Love love love this!!

[@giosmama100]

Fascinating!

[@y888-w2m]

I too have uranus retrograde in my 1st house conjunct my Asc. 😊

[@ARUZ68]

Thank you thank you thank you.

[@carmenalexandra5625]

Hung on every word !! 💥😍

[@morriganwitch]

Hey it’s a great night The Outcasts xxx and blowing my mind and making me feel ok brought up in a very welsh chapel family xxx

[@eriwendikhaila]

I can’t get the song Bohemian Rhapsody out of my head. All this talk about Galileo.

[@kymallison4263]

Yes! Every time Rick said Galileo, I heard Freddy singing the refrain!

[@RickLevine]

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[@eriwendikhaila]

@@kymallison4263 Glad to know I am not the only crazy one out there! thanks for the confirmation.--Wendy

[@eriwendikhaila]

Rick Levine exactly! -wendyt

[@lmvath211]

I’m looking for the Episode on Biblical astrology. Anyone have the link?

[@sandicampbell3252]

Amanda, the power of a story is the ONLY thing that has ever changed history! We in the 21st century West seem to think 'stories' are fairy tales, rather than representations of reality.

[@lindaholman9786]

Know time and avoid the pitfalls.

[@bestforyouall]

I have found out that sometimes even when you know ahead of events, sometimes you can’t scape certain events.

[@lindaholman9786]

Start with zero for the first commandment. Then read the second as number one. And so forth. You will see the correlation. There is parallel language. Disciples and signs are the same. Llewelyn’s Horoscope Maker and delineator.

[@lindaholman9786]

Those who don’t want you to study don’t want you to know who they are and what they are all about. That’s someone else’s quote.

[@AvinashAgrawal1]

Hora is a word in ancient Sanskrit, which means hour. Not sure if that word is derived from some other language.

[@alexandrasteinicke]

Read Prayers of the Cosmos by Sadhi Neal Douglas-Klotz

[@RickLevine]

Thanks. ✨ 🌈

[@sassygrneyes]

Well maybe that explains the other day, when I went into the grocery store with my astrology mask on, and elderly lady looked at me and did the sign of the cross as she looked back down😳. I thought jeez, what did i do??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@willowauswald1407]

!0! ; ) ThX, ~WiLL0w~

[@sr-lo9gg]

When our ancestor started walking upright and looked up at the stars, that’s when Astrology was born.

[@onewarrior5186]

Gen. 1:14 speaks of astrology (possibly) "Signs and Seasons". Look specifically the Hebrew word for the English "seasons". The word for "seasons" in Hebrew is Moed or Moediym. Strong's Lexicon of Hebrew words for "seasons" is #4150 and means, "Appointed Times". Is our birthdates Appointed Times? Is our Birthdays "Marked" in the Heavenlies? Appointed??? What else is Appointed in the Heavens?

[@bodhimartina6985]

Two things to consider. See Nassim Haramein's quantum work. He is bringing it all together brilliantly! See the Resonance Science Foundation. The Tibetan Buddhist still use their ancient astrology to find the Next Dali Lama. Although the present Dali Lama said he might be the last one. I haven't followed that line of reasoning. But do check out Nassim's free new paradigm. It will change the world's dogmatic thinking.

[@kalaysia77]

You almost answered my question mentioning the Islamic rule in Al andalus.

[@docherb7]

Rene Descartes (according to Terence McKenna) founded modern science on a dream he had while camping at age 19 in the town of Alm, German Empire. (the birth place of Albert Einstein) In the dream an Angel appeared to Descartes and said "Nature will be conquered by number and measure"...... Modern science was founded by an Angel 🎉

[@juliegiles334]

The book zealot is excellent in describing the times of the jews, Roman's during that time. It talks about the culture, politics,archeology and the laws of the time. You understand the time of Jesus more factually if you read it. It's written by Reza Aslan and fills in lots of holes taught by current religious institutions. I highly recommend it as a basis to look at where it started and the stories that came forth that people quote verbatim today.

[@muzicfrst1844]

Astrology is the voice of the UNIVERSE 4me. We've been cheated of the truth on this PLANET especially what we r and where we STAR BEINGS come from.. Its time we understand reality and how we create it. Let consciousness reign!!!

[@VDOVault]

I've come to see astrology as a possible religious / spiritual practice in its own right. I'm trained as a scientist (virology, particularly common cold & flu viruses were my area of research, yes I knew a bit about coronaviruses before SARS, MERS & SARS-Cov2 / COVID-19 came along) as well as an intellectual property lawyer. And I don't take too personally what others think of astrology, even those I am closest to (my best friend of 30 years is a hardcore fan of James Randi who despised astrology, mediums, etc). If it bothers them that much they have the 'free will' to not associate with me or to choose to associate with me less intimately. Also horology (the study of time, clocks & watches, time-keeping devices) & horoscope fascinate me.

[@ali-es2ye]

VDOVault I think we need to know we don’t have to share our lives with some friends if they have aversions to things. Obviously you have these interests from your own birth chart? Like friends have different music that makes their heart sing, or textures or tastes....I kind of like to know something from their inner self you can pass over when they are troubled...that’s when it dawns on them...that the higher intelligence, our organic selves , our journeys separate to them, can share that value in a heart beat🌹

[@VDOVault]

@@ali-es2ye Nothing wrong with casting the natal charts of others to try to understand them better, just know & respect that many of them don't want to hear what we have to say when we're speaking from an astrological perspective & they may not cooperate with our efforts to enlighten them (like providing their birth times and/or birth places to help us cast their charts more accurately ;-)

[@ali-es2ye]

VDOVault yes, It is more relative to the intimacy level..maybe that’s why it’s good as a business, cause strangers can have intimacy and walk away, and don’t feel threatened you know them? 😊

[@sergioloranica]

What is the connection between Venus and Lucifer?