Astrophoto PC: Hotspot on Startup! Even without Internet! FINALLY!

Hotspot on startup will let you connect and control your Astrophoto PC even in the middle of nowhere!
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Script to use in the *.ps1 file:
$profile = [Windows.Networking.Connectivity.NetworkInformation,Windows.Networking.Connectivity,ContentType=WindowsRuntime]::GetConnectionProfiles() | where {$_.profilename -eq 'loopback'}; $tether = [Windows.Networking.NetworkOperators.NetworkOperatorTetheringManager,Windows.Networking.NetworkOperators,ContentType=WindowsRuntime]::CreateFromConnectionProfile($profile); $tether.StartTetheringAsync()
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[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Addendum if you're having issues! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJzToHt9it6EgtE Hotspot on startup will let you connect and control your Astrophoto PC even in the middle of nowhere! My Patreon: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek Mele Quieter 4C if you're interested! amzn.to/3SV1vA2 Full setup video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ68ZXxjf76om6M Script to use in the *.ps1 file: $profile = [Windows.Networking.Connectivity.NetworkInformation,Windows.Networking.Connectivity,ContentType=WindowsRuntime]::GetConnectionProfiles() | where {$_.profilename -eq 'loopback'}; $tether = [Windows.Networking.NetworkOperators.NetworkOperatorTetheringManager,Windows.Networking.NetworkOperators,ContentType=WindowsRuntime]::CreateFromConnectionProfile($profile); $tether.StartTetheringAsync() Arguments for Powershell in the Task Scheduler: -NoProfile -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File C:\Users\Cuiv\HotspotStarter.ps1 Reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/AskAstrophotography/comments/1625s32/making_a_windows_11_hotspot_without_an_internet/ Amazon affiliate: amzn.to/3hTB5Ne Agena affiliate: bit.ly/3Om0hNG High Point Scientific affiliate: bit.ly/3lReu8R All-Star Telescope affiliate: bit.ly/3SCgVbV Astroshop.eu Affiliate: tinyurl.com/2vafkax8 Seestar S50 Telescope: tinyurl.com/3n62hpzx or bit.ly/49mQhLJ and review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWVapKhfbtkfMk Dwarf 2 Smart Telescope: bit.ly/3SyChXua

[@earthling8635]

How strong a signal does the hotspot provide? I have two issues to understand before I were to try this: 1. I live in a 3 storey house and have an outdoor balcony which is accessible from a door on my second floor landing. My rig is then about 2 to 3 metres from the door. The computer I would be using to control the Mele 3 is located directly above the landing on the 3rd floor, so 1 floor above and also inside the house (so a brick wall between the two computers. I would estimate a line of sight distance of around 6 or 7 metres but, again, with a brick wall in between). This is why I ask about the strength of signal. 2. The controlling computer is a Mac M1. Will this be able to control the Mele Windows machine remotely in the same way as you have shown? Thanks.

[@cwminer8235]

I'm a recent ASI air convert and just picked up a Mele quieter 4c a few weeks ago. Thank you (as well as PatriotAstro)for all the content on setting up and getting everything to work on these mini pcs as I would be totally lost without your videos. Keep up the great work/content.❤

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'm so glad it was helpful! Enjoy the learning curve :-) Also congrats on your 4C, it's a really good fanless computer!

[@fazergazer]

Cuiv, thanks for the excellent work consolidating this hotspot ❤ 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@astroattorney]

It worked! Thank you Cuiv and everyone else who contributed, including your wife. :D

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Awesome!! Glad it helps!

[@tompolk7588]

Thanks, was helpful!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thank you for your support!

[@Techbypaco]

Thank you for sharing this method that does not require any third party software. Been hesitant to set this up before, but now I am one step closer to hopefully being ready for the Total Eclipse next month.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad I could help! Just a month left to the eclipse!

[@MijoSamija]

Thanks for the very useful information

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Wow thank you so much!

[@jesuschrist2284]

Ignored this when you released it, now i need to watch it :( thankyou :) again

[@NirZonshine]

Hi, I've just done it again for a new PC (a bit more powerfull than my old one), and I had to remember to add a second triger. Without the second triger, the hot spot would start only after restart, but not after power on. I have forgotten to mention it in my previous comment. This triger is set as such - Begin the task: "On an event". Log: "System", Source: "Kernel-Power", Event ID: "107". This works on both PCs now.

[@Abaunzamarco]

I can’t believe I had to come back here for help again as Microsoft decided to make some updates without asking and deleted my loophole adapter. Last minute I went on to save my target sequence in NINA today as tomorrow I take a plane to B2 skies for 3 night Astro trip, and to my surprise I could not find the mini pc hotspot. Just thankful for having this video at hand and also that that this happened today, otherwise it would have been a nightmare in field without any internet. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JoeBob79569]

I haven't used my rig in a few months and my mini-PC updated to Windows 1124H2 when I booted it up this evening to get back into the swing of things, and of course the update removed the loopback thingy, so my hotspot wouldn't start with Windows.. I'm very glad this video is still here because I had totally forgotten how to do it, and not in a million years would I have remembered how to get it back by adding legacy hardware in Device Manager! 👍

[@surg01]

Nice one, Cuiv. Thanks to the others and you for bringing this to the masses!

[@ScottDavies]

Thanks Cuiv! Very complicated and I failed at the powershell part! Will try again later! Thanks Scott

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Good luck!

[@rtpman1953]

Thanks Cuiv. Most of the time I simply use my mifi device since I'm usually camping and need internet anyway. However, there are times I'm with friends in locations without internet and this will be great! Also, looking forward to the Mele 4 review. I pulled up the unit on Amazon and it looks pretty good. I'm always a little worried about fanless ones since I camp in the hot Arizona desert but willing to give it a try.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah I haven't tested it in hot conditions yet because winter, but otherwise it does look quite good with some drawbacks!

[@NirZonshine]

Hi. I've just completed your auto hotspot guide on my old NUC. It works great. As this is a really old and slow PC, I increase the initial delay to 2 minutes.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That's excellent! Great to hear!

[@oldskaterman]

Dear Cuiv. An excellent post easily followed. I noted that once configured, the mini PC was able to establish a WiFi connection to my home WiFi network thus providing Internet access. So in addition to creating a WiFi hotspot, it was possible to access an external WiFi access point. Many thanks for your excellent KZbin videos.

[@MehediHasan-mw3if]

Thank you so much for this video! I spent the last few hours trying to enable a hotspot without an active internet connection on my Windows 10 system. I was attempting to use the hosted network approach for SoftAP, only to find out that it's no longer supported. I had no idea it could be done without hosted network support. Your video provided a solution without needing outdated drivers or any complicated steps. I truly appreciate the effort you put into making this tutorial. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@MrRoddyRod]

Thank you so much Cuiv!! I was struggling with theses scripts until I found your guide!! My EAA setup is up and running 1million time better now!! 😊🙏

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Great to hear!

[@Gianluca_GMS]

YES! Finally! Thank you so much for this guide! 🙏

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad it works well for you! You could still try Cosmic Clarity with it!

[@Laurent_BARTHELEMY]

Merci Yannick, parfait, comme toujours

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Génial :-)

[@Claus-cb1lh]

Super Cool ! Finally fixed that damn hotspot starting feature !! Thank you so much 👍👍👍

[@alomgirmiah]

I cannot thank you enough. Everything worked hassle free.

[@stephanep1330]

Hi Cuiv, Nice! Thanks again for all your videos! Not so easy but it works great also on my Mele Quieter mini PC. Unfortunately, once assembled on my scope, it turns out the hotspot of my particular PC has a very poor emission strength. I have to stay within 1m of the PC. I find it much easy to add a cheap, low speed (only 2.4GHz) wireless router as you mentioned it also. The one I have runs directly from the 12V of my battery, and I can then access my PC from my car, watching your videos. ;)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for the feedback! Weird about the hotspot strength... Do you also see such poor range when you launch the hotspot manually?

[@deep_space_dave]

Thanks so much Cuiv! This will be really handy next time I go to a dark site!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad to help Dave!

[@jeffmarcks3256]

It worked! I also have the MeLe 4c and love it. Thanks for this HowTo!

[@rvoykin]

My MELE just arrived this week perfect timing!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Excellent! Have fun with it!

[@RainbowCamel]

Thank you, I've been struggling with it for long time

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

You're welcome! And all thanks to the people who made it possible :)

[@markhelton8032]

I gotta tell you. I am old enough to know people that programmed with paper cards! A lot of my friends! But I am kind of a programming dweeb!~. Not anymore! I actually followed your lead, and now have a mobile hotspot with my new Mele 4C computer...I cut the cable! Woo hoo! Thanks Mr. not so lazy geek! I mean, it worked on my first try!! Yeah!!!

[@joshuamuller9705]

Reddit users are the real MVPs for stuff like this (sometimes😅) Thanks for sharing 👌

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahahaha sometimes :D Cheers Joshua!

[@sianikolaou5440]

This is fantastic, thanks Cuiv!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

No worries!

[@chrishill4903]

Hi Cuiv; This is a great video. I use my ASIAIR Plus hotspot to have my mini-pc connect to and run both my rigs (ASIAIR and BeeLink Win 11 PC) from a single Android Tablet using Windows Remote Desktop Connection software for the Android. The range is really good and much simpler than the loops and hurdles that Microsoft puts us through. I tried your method and it works great. I now have 2 options if I am running both rigs I will use the ASIAIR hotspot to connect both devices, but if I am just runing my BeeLink, I now can use that without the ASIAIR Plus at a location without internet/cell service. No more laptop power hog in the field. :) Thank you for posting this solution.

[@richardshagam8608]

Tried it out on a non-MeLe miniPC and it appears to work--although I haven't shut down my WiFi network to prove it--don't want to upset my WIFE, either. Now I can go out in the field--or I can still connect via my home wifi, too. Thank You!!! (Oops--maybe not--I'll go to the addendum video and check that out).

[@orwandil]

Success! I believe the issue I was having was with my user name. I found an online post which stated that powershell wouldn't execute a script if the file path contained any spaces. As I had set up my user name with my first and last name (with a space in-between), I believe that was the problem. A new user name with first name only seems to have fixed the issue. Could have been something else I suppose, but I had re-entered all of the instructions many :-) times without it working. (Quieter 4C, Windows 11)

[@mikebennett2015]

Try putting the path and file name in double quotes. E.G "C:\Users\First Last\HotspotStarter.ps1"

[@azastro919]

Did the hotspot just not start up?

[@MrCosmickeith]

I’m having the exact same issue. Carried out everything exactly to the word but when entering the username & password a box come up stating not recognised- will try and sort and post if I resolve the issue, currently I use an old router which I created a wireless network & works fine but if I can resolve my issue it will be less cables and power.incidentally- are there any settings which need configuring with the PC you are attempting to connect to?

[@HaakonRasmussen-r8o]

I got it to work! I removed the second optional "Location" C.\Users\Cuiv\ and it worked instantly. I also had to shut off Hibernation. So again: Thanks for showing us how to use a Mele PC in the field!

[@Astrorun]

Thank you Cuiv.

[@boxeentrainement3312]

Merci ! Microsoft est une véritable usine à gaz. Ta vidéo arrive à point nommé, j’allais justement acheter un routeur et une antenne wi-fi

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

J'espère que ça va marcher pour toi!

[@boxeentrainement3312]

Oui ça fonctionne il faut attendre 2 minutes chrono de l’allumage du mini pc à la connection du bureau à distance. Encore merci 🙏 ( je vais libérer mes enfants et ma femme 😂 et moi du coup 🎉)

[@mikebennett2015]

Thanks Cuiv, worked first time for me.

[@brod5352]

I'm going to set up my Astro Computer to do this as a backup. I purchased the Stellarmate Pro and I'm finally getting the hang of using it. I have an Edge HD so the Donut issue with focusing is a problem for me. However the latest version of KStars has the new Donut Buster check box in the options section of the Focuser. It says experimental, but I've seen some video simulations using user data and it looks pretty good. I'm going to check it out and see how it works. Next time I get a clear night. ;o)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I need to test that Donut Buster feature as well!! Very nice!

[@tolgagunes225]

It worked.Thanks Cuiv...Quieter 2...

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Excellent!

[@seanod42]

Hi Cuiv yet again another great video to help us with these Windows problems thanks mate

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Cheers! Glad this helped!

[@astrodysseus]

Additional comment: I have now used the process on 2 mini PCs (I have several setups) and it works great. The only thing however to consider is.. speed. And this will vary from mini PC to mini PC. I have a Lenovo nano (great one from a few years back) and the hotspot speed is ok. I also haver the Quieter 3c and.. the hotspot speed is very low. Depending of what you do (eg astrolandscape, deepsky) this may not affect you too much. If you are doing solar /planet imaging, you need enough FPS, especially when focusing. Similarly if you have a shared folder to send over the network a file (I often do this to control during capture that everything is ok), the quieter 3c hotspot was around 300kb/s. With my usual mini TP link router, I am at 8-10mb/s. Quite a difference maybe to be aware of.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Very interesting, thanks for chiming in!

[@manu_astrofoto]

Wow! Great video! I also have a miniPC (not Melee) and the same issue. Now I I'm using my phone as hotspot so my miniPC connects to it. Then I use and old iPad to connect to my phone too and then as the miniPC and the iPad are in the same network I use Remote Desktop to connect haha A bit twisty but is working fine. I will try this on my miniPC and I hope it will work :) Thanks again!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It should work with your miniPC as well, good luck!

[@manu_astrofoto]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek it works perfectly! ^_^ Thanks :D

[@lukaszbaszkiewicz2019]

It Just WORK! Thanks for great tutorial

[@astrobath]

Thank you, Cuiv! I used to enable hotspot on an Android smartphone and then connect using it. The solution will save one device and its battery =)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Make sure to check the addendum video! For some people it works after restart but not after shutdown and restart!

[@plofstof]

Thank you so much for these Videos Cuiv. I have followed your original setup video (about 4 months before this one) where you recommended the Hotspot app in the Windows Store. I have done this, and based on my testing this still works, even if there is no WiFi close by. Perhaps I'm mistaken but it seems to me your original configuration is still working?

[@plofstof]

I spoke too soon :) when update 24H2 came through, it broke the hotspot. I'm now following these instructions. Fingers crossed.

[@Fossbear]

Finally! Thank you SO SO much-- Works !

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad it helped!

[@ssrattus]

Thanks Cuiv!

[@oldpicker6315]

Cuiv….. I am running a quieter 2 and 3 and now thanks to you I’m headed for the great salt lake salt flats where it’s so incredible dark and no internet anywhere. So great!!!! You are a kick in the pants. We appreciate your wife’s patience in our behalf. Excuse my inquisitive nature here , but what in the world do you do, your day job, in Hawaii?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That's awesome! I work as a product manager but in Japan :)

[@terrizittritsch745]

Going to give this a try Cuiv! Thank you so much. I’ve been through everything just as you articulated in your video. I’ve gone through various tutorials from others on how to do this, which fail. I’ve found the hotspot app that many use, but it requires you to sign into the pc to work, for which i purchased a mini Bluetooth keyboard for which I have keystrokes that i have to go through blindly to make it work. Then I went to the separate mini travel router.. which works but yet another piece of kit. If this works, fantastic.. my only concern is whether the next windows update will stop it from working??? So I’m not going to throw my travel router away. Thanks again!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Good point on Windows updates... We can only hope!

[@scottinharwood]

OK, so I tried this on a GMTec Mini PC with a 1TB SSD and Windows 11 Pro with four USB 3 ports. Retailed on Amazon at $230. The install worked! Now, I have it completely powered off and my laptop powered off and will try a full cold start - wish me luck! M plan is to mount this on the side of my Tripod with the top surface antenna towards the house for max signal to see if that works as well. With one USB and Power cable to a USB 3 hub on the telescope I should be able to run my cameras and focuser. Again, wish me luck. Its cloudy and rainy here in Maryland pretty much all week. Had a bad wind come through last Saturday that blew over my AM5 mount with my ASKAR103 telescope mounted on it. I dissambled the mount and moved the optics into the house. The Focuser USB cable seems to be the only thing broken and everything seems works on from my desktop. Now I have to reassemble everything...

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Good luck, and good luck with reassembling your fallen setup!

[@astrostufftomtrubridge7915]

Hi Cuiv, super amazing! I've been banging my head against a brick wall for 2 years now trying to make a wifi hotspot work.. Just before I change both my PCs to win 11 would this will work with win 10? or should I upgrade to 11, it's just that all my Astro stuff drivers etc just work in win10...thanking you regards from Tom...

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It should work on Windows 10 as well, although the UI for some steps will be different!

[@guyyanez6949]

Just a couple of days ago, I configured a WiFi network for my field rig without internet available using the router approach. What are the odds? I will give this hotspot approach a try and see how it performs. Hopefully, that would be one piece of equipment that may stay at home (the router) and make things much simpler. Thank you so much for this step-by-step video.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha good timing! Have fun testing this!

[@cucubits]

Thank you! This was immensely helpful. It really is mindblowing why microsoft engineers/architects make such poor decisions.

[@NikonJax]

Cuiv Awesome video! Just a note...I had no password and I could not complete the starter setup without one. Added one and it was fine :)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Nice work!

[@azuractive]

Why does Microsoft make this so cumbersome?! Love NINA, hate Windows. Thanks, Cuiv! I can finally ditch the travel router.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah they really thought of a hotspot as ONLY being useful to share Internet connection it seems...

[@unhakim7415]

It works. Thank you very much.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Awesome!

[@wingshum7551]

Great idea able remote access telescope PC. Question: as NINA alwayts request download skymap or platesolve through internet. Ant idea if not network in feild?

[@gunnar2906]

Thanks a lot for your advises! I'm still hasitating what to buy: AstroStation or T.I. PowerBox Pro with Mele Q4C. The last choice is more flexible decision I suppose. Am I on the right way? All my ideas came after I bought a rotator that isn't supported by Asiair and might be added in the AstoStation funtionality in uncertain future.

[@paulbarrett423]

im at a x roads, I have an old pc im my obsy, every year i get trouble as i just dont get enough clear nights and can go months without imaging. So i was thinking of the mele mini pc, and connecting it straight to my main desk top pc. the old one is connected to my router and i just use remote desktop , my question is can i do the same with the mini pc but do away with the monitor i have in the obsy? i really would like to be more streamlind and have more room losing the bigger pc and monitor would do it. cheers

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'm don't fully understand the current situation, but the small Mele PC can be used as a "headless" setup with no monitor, and you can connect to it via remote desktop from another computer on the same network (whether that's the hotspot generated by the Mele, or you home wifi). So I personally often connect via remote desktop to the telescope-mounted Mele from my laptop, which I can carry around while remaining connected!

[@xmaspako]

Great idea. You rule!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@JimAhlman]

I tried this but had an issue. The hotspot would NOT start from a cold boot but would from a restart. I double checked all the settings and tried a few other things but had no luck. However, I could click the Run button in Task Scheduler, and it would start! Weird! Ultimately, I used a bat file in Startup with the commands from the Reddit page and it's all working as expected. Thanks for posting this. I've been using a travel router to connect my astro computer to a laptop, but I never really liked this solution. I've been looking for a peer-to-peer solution for quite some time. J.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That is really weird, I tested it multiple times from a cold boot... But others have had the same issue, glad you found a way to fix it!

[@IgnazioPillitteri]

on ubuntu mate running on my minipc I just opened network manager and added a new wifi connection set as a hotspot and... done. But it is notorious that windows is easier to use ;)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I mention that at the end of the video :)

[@rnjsdmsqls93]

Thank you sooooo much!!!! It perfect worked. I’m free from mobile hotspot.

[@ravnica1]

Nice! Have I just seen a Siril icon on your desktop? 😁

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes 😁 But just for testing stacking speed on the 4C for now :-)

[@patolucas3146]

Once again you make my day, ça marche !!! 👍 Is the Quieter4c based on the N100 really quicker than the 3c based on the n5105 ?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It is faster, especially if changing the power limits in the bios (I'll have instructions in my review). But unless you have a full frame camera with huge resolution, or other scenario requiring processing power, I think the 3c is more than enough! Now for people with the 2Q, that's an easy recommendation!

[@thomasferguson9116]

Hi Cuiv, One question for you. If I set my computer up to do this at a remote site, will it still work the normal way at home with a wifi connection or will I need to do something different? Thanks for all the great videos, Tom

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes it would work normally at home with a wifi connection

[@RynBat]

I actually had to cancel a night of imaging due to WiFi issues recently. I think it's because my mini-PC is at the edge of my home WiFi range, so it drops from that, meaning I need to go out there and connect directly, but the WiFi hotspot also drops for an unknown reason so I'm completely stuck. I'm definitely trying this the next chance I get, and if it works you've saved me a lot of hassle.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Sorry to hear about that loss of a night of imaging, but I think this will help!

[@Gregg69420]

Is there a way to hook up a PC to a scope that I could use from across the world without having to pay for a remote observatory

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes but you'd need to have a dome and someone nearby to close it when it inevitably fails!

[@Gregg69420]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek alright, thank you for the advice!

[@julianmatthews3262]

Hi Cuiv, great video and research thank you. I set up my mini pc per your A to Z tutorial you did 10 or so months ago. The hotspot starts up no worries. Am I right in thinking that this is just for those users who can no longer purchase the hotspot program which you say is no longer available? OR is this a better way of setting up a mobile hotspot than your previous method? Thanks again

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hey Julian! If it ain't broke, don't fix it right? :-) Both methods should be equivalent!

[@julianmatthews3262]

@@CuivTheLazyGeekThanks Cuiv, take care

[@dw.in.michigan]

Great video! You are always so helpful. One question. If I set up the hotspot to initialize at log-in instead of startup, does that change anything? I'm asking because I have my MeLE set up with Stelkarmate X on the onboard eMMC drive, and Windows 11 on the NVMe SSD drive that I added. Obviously, Stellarmate automatically starts its own hotspot for headless control, and I actually have the PC set to boot to Stellarmate by default. But, if I wanted to use NINA from Windows, then I would change the boot sequence to the SSD drive. If I set the hotspot to initialize upon login, will it only broadcast if I'm in Windows? In other words, does it broadcast automatically and in the background even if I've booted to Stellarmate? If it seems like an absurd question, I apologize. I just don't know quite enough about all this, so I'm behind the curve when navigating it. Also, to anyone who might know, when the time is set correctly in the BIOS and Windows, it throws off the time in Stellarmate. If I correct the time in Stellarmate, it seems to change it in the BIOS and also Windows. I've set Windows to manually set the time, but whenever I restart, it changes again. I'm pretty certain the problem is Stellarmate. It seems to be behind by 5 hours, so when Stellarmateis correct, Windows is 5 hours ahead. If anyone with a similar experience has knowledge on how to fix it, please let me know.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Good question! The way this is configured, the hotspot would only start when you start Windows, so there never will be a conflict with Stellarmate OS!

[@jimcollins1922]

Very impressive. I need to ask one question and I am pretty much tied into the MAC ecosystem. So if I put the remote desktop app on my mac, can I then just power on the AstroPC and connect to it without having done any other configuration. That appears to be what you did with your Android phone? I just don't want to have to figure out how to get a monitor for the astropc. Thanks I enjoy your sometime far out videos and out of the box thinking. I have just joined you channel.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hello Jim! I'm allergic to all things Apple so I don't really have the answer - but as far as I understand there is a Microsoft Remote Desktop app for MacOS, so using that I assume it would work just in the same way as from the Android app. And thank you so much for your support!

[@jimcollins1922]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Yes there is a remote desktop app for the Mac and also for the iPhone and iPad. I just wanted to clarify, that from the video it appeared that you did not really need to do anything to get the remote desktop running on the PC, just power it on. I saw your previous video with the gyrations that you went through to get remote desk top to work on the mini PC. It looks like this eliminates all that and that you can do an initial boot up with this device using a device with remote desktop on it. I can live with updating the astro software, I just don't want to have to get into configuring windows. If you don't need to do anything to connect to the mini PC other than connect to it via a remote desktop client, from my point of view this makes it attractive alternative to my ASIAIR Plus and it will free me from the ZWO ecosystem.

[@adrianfontenla2125]

Thanks for the tutorial. I have been able to get the hotspot to activate on startup. Always great content on your channel!!! I have been able to connect to my phone but not my computer. Not sure why there is a problem with computer. In addition, despite the hotspot being connected to my phone, the mele turns it off automatically affter about a minute (I have checked that powersaving is off, and the peerlesstimeoutenabled is set to 0 for both dec and hex). Any suggestions would be appreciated?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That is weird, have you also disabled the power saving at the device driver level, in Device Manager? Basically three places: hotspot config (disable power saving), device manager for your wifi driver (uncheck allow to turn off adapter to save power) and the registry key. If you still have issues, in the same place in the registry as you added PeerlessTimeoutEnabled, try adding a new DWORD (32 bits), name it PeerlessTimeout, and set the value to 120, then restart and see if that helps!

[@stephanechabert5316]

Nice video as always. Problem of authorization after the powershell. I will try again later. About the MeLe is there a real benefit to change my MeLe 3 for the 4C ?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Unless you have a specific use case (like full frame sensor and short exposures, or stacking on the miniPC, etc.) the Quieter 3 is definitely good enough!

[@mazeedsumon]

Genius!!

[@kinou2713]

I received my Mele this week, unfortuanatly, the network adaptater doesn't support hosted network. Idk how to fix it

[@warrenp7861]

Hey Cuiv...thanks for the great info! Question...I currently have my Mele log in to my wifi. Works well inside my house. I can see this as valuable when I am in the field, but when at home, not sure if it has the range to connect from inside my house without the wifi. Seems like I would need to disable the hotspot. Am I missing something? Thanks...Warren

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The hotspot itself doesn't stop the mini PC from connecting to your home network, so it shouldn't be a conflict!

[@dereksmith4517]

Anther grate tip vid, thank you.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad it was helpful!

[@KevinRudd-w8s]

I must be missing something here Cuiv, I can follow your set up procedure but don't understand why you need this. Are you saying that when you switch everything on the mini pc is not initially detected by the pc? I use an Eagle LE and this connects to my Windows 11 Laptop, Tablet and Phone without any problems. I didn't have to go through that somewhat drawn out procedure to connect to the laptop for the first time. I am thinking about getting another mini pc and if I'm going to have to go through that process to get it to work I'll probably get another LE, it's not that much more expensive than some of the better mini pcs anyway.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The Eagle LE creates its own hotspot automatically, so you don't need to do this procedure. From what I can tell the Eagle LE however uses the J4005, which is a somewhat underpowered processor these days (even less powerful than the J4125 in the old MeLe Quieter 2), so I'd recommend an Eagle S if you're going to go the Eagle way again! Otherwise the MeLe Quieter 4C I'm currently testing is $220 and has a processor that is literally more than three times faster than the Eagle LE's (and only marginally slower than the Eagle S' processor). But yes, with a mini PC there is an hour's worth of work for the initial setup! And you don't get all the cool additional features the Eagle has!

[@KevinRudd-w8s]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for clearing that up Cuiv, as it is my LE is currently doing everything I need it to so I'll carry on with that for now but will bare your comments in mind in future when I get round to buying another pc. Thanks again.

[@lee-van-cleef]

I wish Windows mini PCs would just come with this preconfigured. It’s silly to have to do the initial setup with a monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Even more silly that it takes this much effort to set up the hotspot!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah absolutely....

[@wazigeralph]

Awesome

[@yogas6686]

Hello sir, can i ask about something? Can i use wireless wifi adapter to increase the speed? I have my laptop and just want to play remote with this method (i dont have wifi), its work, but the speed wasn't so good only 600kbs on my phone, so can i get more speed if i change the loopback to wireless wifi adapter?

[@aradani3]

Thanks! A question, right now I am using a mini router to remote connect from my Laptop to the Mele Q2, and the Mele Q2 connects automatically to the WiFi created by the mount (CEM26). I would love to ditch the mini router, but then would I be able to connect both the PC and the mount to the hotspot created by the MELE Q2?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

In theory yes it works - my MeLe PC can connect to my home wifi AND have its hotspot at the same time, so it should be able to create its hotspot and connect to the mount at the same time. This should in theory remove the need for the mini router!

[@jesusbilbao]

Hi Cuiv. I had tried your original method which did not work. This one did connect for a few seconds and quit. Do I have to uninstall the previous apps etc that I installed during the first method for this one to work?. Thanks for your tutorial.

[@scottfairbairn6305]

Thank you for the very clear and concise video. I have a Mele computer, and everything(almost) worked. I used my Windows laptop,found the hotspot and successfully joined it after I found the network password key for the hotspot. However, my laptop has a home version of Windows, and Microsoft does not allow remote desktop use unless you buy the pro version. So I tried AnyDesk software, but it would not connect. Do you think there is a problem with my setup causing Anydesk to fail, or do I need to cough up money to upgrade my windows version to use Remote Desktop?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Windows lets you use the remote desktop client on Windows Home (so you can connect via RDP to other PCs but can't have other PCs connecting to yours). My other linked video has full instructions, and my client PC is Windows Home :)

[@scottfairbairn6305]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek So I'd have to use the home addition laptop to join the hotspot, then use the mele to do the Remote Desktop to the home edition machine?

[@francescoradici8181]

Hi Cuiv, thankyou for the great video(s)! I'v set up my mini PC as you show and everithing seems to work but I have a (not so) little issue... The Hotspot starts automatically only when I reboot my machine from windows, not at the first startup. If I power on the mini PC from the shutdown, the procedure doesn't start automatically, as expected (but the script works if I try to lounch it manually). But if i click reboot from the Windows icon, the machine restarts and creates his network. This regardless the internet connection, I tried several times with domestic wifi on and off. I run Windows 10 Pro on the mini PC. I have no clue what the reason could be, do you?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That is really, really weird.. you do have the 1 minute delay on, right?

[@francescoradici8181]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek yes, I tried 30 sec, 1 or 2 minutes, nothing changes...😢

[@lee-van-cleef]

Seems a recent Windows update may have done something that messes with the Task. I was only able to get it working again by uninstalling the updates.

[@raphaelhaist5218]

I fixed this Problem with a Wlan stick I had lying around.On startup my mele just starts the hosted network via the wlan stick and it works without internet or any other network.

[@jeremywebb2777]

I can't get it to work. Followed the instructions exactly. I'm using a Mele overclock 3C....

[@AstroAF]

Thanks Cuiv! Sadly I'm getting "Unable to connect to the remote PC as there is no network connectivity." in my RDC (Mac). I am successfully connecting to the Hotspot though. If I re-connect LAN i do see that the Hotspot is enabled after startup. Not sure what the issue is with RDC not making the connection. Cheers! Doug

[@AstroAF]

Yay! I sorted it out. I had a manual DHCP configuration on my client. I changed that to auto and it connected right away. Hope that helps someone else. Cheers!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad you got it figured out!

[@mikebennett2015]

I thought this had worked for me, but after shutting down the PC and restarting, the hotspot did not start. After some investigation I found this was because, by default, shutting down hibernates the PC. When it restart it does not run the On Startup events. I've fixed this by turning off hibernation. To do this open a command prompt as administrator and issue the command powercfg /h off This will slow down start up, but the hot spot now starts.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Oh wow! Thank you so much!! I don't have the problem on my side - but I'm wondering if it's because of my auto-login that forces the "On Startup". I'll present both solutions in an addendum video!

[@mikebennett2015]

Another observation for anyone using Remote Desktop to run NINA. If you test during the day and leave the lens cap on your guide scope, viewing PHD2 almost kills the session as all the noise in the image is transmitted. Taking the lens cap off resolves this.

[@astrostufftomtrubridge7915]

Hi Cuiv, It almost works!! But only in partial range of my WiFi indoors which it connects to then there is a hotspot option on greyed out button... Any clues? Regards Tom..

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Unfortunately no clue...

[@robertsipes7391]

I am assuming that in Task Scheduler you set the script to be configured for Windows 10, because it looks like Windows 11 is not available on the dropdown menu? Is that correct? Cuiv, you have made this so simple. Thank you! Can't wait to get my MELE up and running.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep that's correct! Although tbh it shouldn't really matter. Good luck with the setup!

[@KJRitch]

I have the Hotspot purchased as recommended in your earlier video but haven't set it up on my Mele Quieter 3Q. Is this new method a better choice or should it just go with using the Hotspot?

[@MrGuilletv]

Now i can use my minipc beelink in the field to control mi telescope from my mobile using remotedesktop app .. Right?? Like asiair but nina version

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Correct!

[@MrGuilletv]

​@@CuivTheLazyGeeksadly I follow every step but my beelink minipc (mini s) don't start the hotspot automatically (I do everything in the guide)

[@Jaxnize]

No menttion that tasks require a password until trying to apply the script/tasks at tnd end of vid. Had to add password and run through most of the script again. No biggie, but now I have to log in. How is this accomplished remotely with a headless pc..? Do i need to go back to the first vid/process from last year that uses the log in bypass scripting..?

[@marchoude2303]

Hey Cuiv, I have both the Quieter3 and the ASIAir Plus and am just starting out. Both have a bit of a learning curve. Do you recommend I focus on learning one over the other first?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I would suggest trying with the ASIAir first, that way you'll learn the basics!

[@astroalb3938]

Great video, thanks cuiv, I have done step by step, with Windows 11 pro version 23H2, your instruction, unfortunately the mobile hotspot is still off !?! WLAN is there, but no connection to my home WLAN Windows writes: a mobile hotspot cannot be set up because your PC does not have an Ethernet, WLAN or data connection. Who is the error ? can you help ? thanks Georges

[@astroalb3938]

Hello Cuiv, I have found the error: The PC with Windows 11 Pro must be equipped with a WLAN adapter that supports the “hosted hotspot” function ! Unfortunately, my adapter does not: query with CMD: netsh wlan show drivers if hosted network supported : yes : everything OK otherwise mobile hotspot is not possible. Thanks Georges

[@razorfpv]

not work for me

[@robertlowenthal689]

Thanks, Cuiv! I got the Hotspot up and running. However, when I try to use Remote Desktop Connection, I can’t connect if the MeLe PC isn’t connected to the internet. If the MeLe is connected to the internet, I can connect to it via the Hotspot without problem. I’ll need to remote in when I’m out in the field, where there is no internet connection. So if I can’t connect my PC to the MeLe as a Hotspot, it defeats the purpose. Any suggestions to fix this issue? Thanks, Robert

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I tested in both scenarios and I don't have any issues with remote desktop, regardless of whether the mini PC is or isn't connected to the Internet. RDP can be weird, have you tried connecting multiple times? And have you tried with the IP address rather than hostname?

[@robertlowenthal689]

I got it working now. I turned off our house WiFi router (with wife’s permission, of course 😇) and it worked well without any internet connection. All is good. Thank you, Cuiv!

[@astrodysseus]

Does it means you don't need anymore an external hotspot usb/ethernet module ? If yes, that's interesting and it would consume a little less battery.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep, that's correct - the PC generates its own hotspot on startup!

[@astrodysseus]

@@CuivTheLazyGeekhu that's cool for portable setup ! ok will watch it in detail there :p is it only for windows 11 or also 10 pro ?

[@DavidsStars]

Is it possible to have it auto start the hotspot -and- have a login? I mean there are pranksters and hoaxers who will connect and mess around with my system… I do want a login.. thanks.