INTJ | Developing Extroverted Thinking (Te)

A discussion on how the MBTI type INTJ can develop their secondary function.
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[@inspektorsx683]

I would like to be a better INTJ. I haven't been able to achieve my goals for a few years now, I had several anxiety attacks and some Ni-Fi loops too. It's horrible when you pride yourself on being an INTJ but you also feel like shit when things don't go the way you want.

[@dorsame5260]

That is exactly how I ( a fellow INTJ ) have been feeling too.

[@dexdalador]

I guess we're not alone in this feeling

[@dexdalador]

How did you get out of that ni fi loop? I think I've been on an off in one for years because I can't seem to achieve my grand vision

[@Zevven]

@@dexdalador Develop Te (yeah , I'm really late , but just leaving it here for others) , try to be less in your head without doing too much , overengaging in Se is not good either.

[@shepardcommander5174]

I feel this 100%

[@sentricz_devkep7525]

This is so true, sometimes I become so infatuated with the ideation of becoming skilled at something, that the ideation becomes a procrastination getting in the way of my Te.

[@longman7230]

Exactly! Could not have said it better myself!

[@evelyn1558]

Its a personal hell

[@CarissaJenkins]

Yes!!

[@KellardRafael]

when you mentioned the ENTJ and INTJ differences through the Ni Te relation, I just imagined the ENTJ climbing a mountain focusing on his hands and steps and just looking now and then to the top, while the INTJ was totally focused on this super bright and shiny thing, as if he was hypnotized by it and he keep climbing theses stairs, but without even looking or noticing them

[@5P4C3V01D]

If you think about the combination of cognitive functions, this is a great description. Te Ni / Ni Te. Thank you.

[@avneet5219]

INTJ here who is also a college dropout and anyone that had dropped out of college just to pursue their own interests, I have a huge respect for them. It takes BALLS man!! When everyone is against you and people tend to think you are the biggest loser and you wouldn't amount to anything in life. I hope everyone who dropped out of college to follow their passion gain MASSIVE SUCCESS.!

[@5P4C3V01D]

college dropout here. Thanks. You will know me soon.

[@DM1LL5T0N31]

Here’s what I do: 1) Plot a far off goal using Ni. 2) Use Te to set smaller, more flexible goals to follow the path of least resistance, and 3) Use Fi to ask myself “Is this worth doing?”. I’m still learning to develop my Se. I imagine that once I’ve mastered Se, I will be able to be still and enjoy the fruit of my labor. Good luck fellow INTJs!

[@DM1LL5T0N31]

Wow, I watched the rest of the video. Apparently the author went through a similar journey. This MBTI stuff can be spooky at times. So accurate.

[@Diaming787]

I remember at the age of 16, I hit this major point in life, mentally speaking, that led me to be trapped within the Ni-Fi loop for a very long time without realizing it. I've neglected my Te and because my Fi was quite underdeveloped at this age, I also tried to develop my Fi as much as I can in order to stay sane during that long period of looping. And let's not talk about how society forces us to use our inferior Se. As a result, this led my functions stack to be out-of-balance. However, my Te was just good enough to make be get back on track, so things has gotten a bit better, even more so to this day. It's really hard to live as an INTJ in this society, but I'm greatful that I have inner confidence for my self-awareness.

[@ishyameru6232]

The things we go through in this age

[@nibirnandi4344]

1:56 2:43 paring Ni &Te 3:03 what to do 3:50 rise of evil masterminds 4:20 input and output balance 5:21 Rise of Crazy Sages.....essence of Te 7:17 RISE of a NIHILIST 7:42 small extroverted goals...them domino effect 8:24 carve for being topper 9:05 Truly meaningful philosophical goal for life .....then using Te to chase it.... 9:58 Dont Hammer.....take time to learn

[@raygo44]

I can relate to wanting accomplish something on the first try and be the best at it. It is ultra perfectionism and can feel very overwhelming when I try to skip the steps and leap right to the end of my goal just to find out that almost always it is near impossible to accomplish what I want in a way I want. Then first response to such failed attempts is self criticism that I am not good enough to begin with.

[@JJ-rp2df]

Manifesting Ni by Te baby steps is almost a cheat code to force focus on facts, details, relationships and behaviours. Excellent insights as always.

[@tessaburnard1151]

This makes so much sense. I have often had ideas that I don't follow through. I get such enjoyment, energy and, to adegree, fulfillment from generating an idea, say a business idea or idea for a non profit intervention, and then figuring out in my head how every aspect of it would work, planning, strategising, delineating every aspect. But once I've figured out how it would all work, I lose interest and never action it. I wish I could figure out how to action things. I guess small achievable goals is ideal, but my head always goes bigger picture and long term, I struggle to focus on the next small steps.

[@darkrebel123]

Dude I dropped out of college my first attempt as well. I chose engineering solely for the pay, so my Ni wasn't behind it. I was dropping and retaking nearly half my classes. Once I discovered that biology is the puzzle I want to pursue, I returned to college and graduated with a 3.95 GPA. It was actually really easy to accomplish once my Ni and Te were working together in a productive manner.

[@theonewhoasked5629]

INTJ teen here. This video helped me understand myself deeper and what would help me, thanks!

[@Marcellus.Wallace]

happy for you, honor and good luck. ;)

[@dirtywhitellama]

Setting and achieving small goals is something I had to learn over the past year to get myself out of a really dark place. Suddenly having the sense that I actually *could* affect my future and actually had agency over my fate was a huge turning point for me. And thank goodness, because this next year or two are going to be rough. Stay healthy!

[@leongremista95]

INTJs want to achieve the status of their vision or become what they aspire to be with the minimum effort possible, in other words, with the lowest amount of energy expense, and this leads them to become easily frustated with aspirations that need daily longterm dedication, like getting fit or learning a language. The INTJ has a vision of himself as an athlete or a polyglot in the near future, but since you need a lot of effort and dedication to even begin seeing results, they end up getting frustrated.

[@goodfornothings]

So true, for me at least

[@kevk4908]

I know this video is two years old, but man I wanted to cry watching this, this video hits home. I wished I knew about my type when I was younger It could've solved a lot of mental problems in my life. Thanks for the video.

[@Chronomatrix]

This speaks volumes to me right now, I'm 28 and still stuck at developing Te, I took a career path that I had no passion for which made me forget about what I truly want, I'm trying to change that now but it's insanely difficult to keep up with everything: learning a whole new set of skills, maintaining my job in a career I feel indifferent about, the feeling of being "late" on everything else in life, etc. and on top of everything the universe throwing rocks at me with family issues, a stagnant economy, a lack of opportunities and now a motherf***** virus bringing us back to 2008. Great video as usual, keep it up.

[@17x71]

Nothing having to do with Te... Looping NiFi dude... If you indeed are INTJ that is... Your dilemma sounds more like that of Fi Dom's though...

[@stefaniekalleske2268]

Hang in there and keep going, you will get there. I also changed my career at 28 and had to start over and it was the best decision ever. Five years later I have a job that gives me security, especially now, even though I do not make as much money as I could some where else. And I have enough time and energy to work on a side business that I am passionate about. Even if you can only work 20 minutes each day on your new career, you can achieve more over a year then people how do nothing and just accept their situation. I also prefer to rather compare me to myself and not look to much what other people do; because for sure their skills are better, if they are doing this longer then you. Just make sure you generate some progress for yourself, no matter how small.

[@sentricz_devkep7525]

I feel. I am about to graduate college in a major I don't like and I want to switch to psychology.

[@wakwak7511]

SeNtRiCz_DevKep how much money?

[@goodfornothings]

So freaking relatable

[@RB-rc6rw]

As a INTJ I treat people as I want to be treated. Always But if I’m being treated badly this turns into treating people as they treat me. Nothing wrong in that. I tell people what I think logically but most people can not interpreted what I’m saying because it’s not how their minds work. Not because of how I explain it.

[@intj_5398]

I explain things a certain way where it comes out all confusing, my mind and the words coming out of my mouth have some sort of malfunction. But this only happens if i say something too quickly without properly taking the time to process what i would say.

[@astavas8341]

Can't be helped. Ni is literally really a "gifted" function, any other perceiving functions won't agree since it's too strange, too abstract, irrational, hence alienated.

[@mister_circle]

To be fair though, if you want your ideas to be understood you should try to learn how to explain them to others in a way that they can understand it. If you have a goal, that goal will probably include talking about and communicating your ideas to other people. So it's a very useful skill to be able to explain things in a way that a wide range of different people can understand. It would be a shame if you walked around your entire life without people understanding what you're saying, right? I mean, if you think about it, how you explain it is actually *very* important for whether or not the other person understands it. You can jump right into the nitty gritty details, or you can start with explaining the general intuitive idea. You can start with the concept or you can start with an example. If the person you're talking to is theoretically inclined, maybe focus more on the general ideas. If they're more practically oriented and bored by theory, explain with examples. If they need time to understand, you can try to be more patient and understanding. After all, if you think that you're smart, wouldn't it make sense that other people would take longer time to understand your ideas? You can definitely improve your skill of explaining things, and you would probably see a lot of benefit from that. I realize it's a long time since you posted this comment, I just felt like leaving a reply :)

[@ceyx1201]

@@mister_circle I think your's not too late nor early. It's just on time. Thanks for the advise, I also do most of these but struggle waiting for them to understand. Tnx again!

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

These problems you've mentioned are exactly what I'm going through. I've never related to anything so much! Thanks for this video. You've earned a subscriber. God bless!

[@chanteltrumbley381]

Thanks for the content, I've definitely been a late bloomer. I have the problem that I dont want for much so finding goals that actually spark my interest is hard. However once I started looking into ways to get healthy, and how to overcome my personal limitations, it's given me a kick start. Completely changed my life, finding something I found important enough to deal with the real world for.

[@sanskrutijaiswal2816]

I had very ambitious parents growing up , hence i have a very highly developed extroverted thinking. Infact it is in my late teens now that i am developing introverted intuition properly as it wasn't appreciated. It has been a difficult learning phase. As a result right now it has been slow to set my goals straight. I have learned to use Te on command now.

[@shaykhriyadh]

What a star. You've encapsulated my teen years in 5 mins

[@llezmollah217]

You could not tell I was a INTJ as a kid, but it definitely start showing as soon as I turned 15

[@rodrigosampaio1162]

Its funny, after i discovered my personality type these tipe of videos or articles fit like a glove. Precise instructions on a better way to live my life. I've grown a lot in the path of self knowledge and owe to people like you, thanks.

[@skai478]

i remember back in school people used to talk to me and some days i would be more thorough in the way i articulate my ideas and visions, they would all tell me how extraordinary and ahead-of-time i was ..... but it never showed in my grades, deep down i knew maybe there was a part of me that i was yet to develop because i did not feel the need to do well in school even though i was fairly visionary and ambitious

[@TonganInTech]

This channel is so underrated! Thank you so much for these wonderful tips! I used my Te without using my Ni, and there was a point where I had some massive failures. I then turned into the reclusive Ni Sage because I was afraid of failing again. Thank you for these tips because I'll make sure to balance the two out better and getting better at accepting the gradual progression of learning new things.

[@micahroberts8383]

This was a very helpful video. While I don't necessarily relate to be an underachiever in my childhood (I was always focused on doing well in school and did so, quite easily), I did absolutely present as an unhealthy ENTJ. In fact, this pattern went on into my young adult years, wherein I tested as an ENTJ, during my residency (around age 26 or so, if memory serves). I was regularly called "bossy" and judgmental as a high school student, with an unrealistic expectation of myself and others, both in performance and morality. When I discovered the Enneagram, this made total sense to me, as I'm a 1w2, and my upbringing unhealthily reinforced this way of being. Now, at 36 years old, I have made enormous strides in understanding myself and am typing as an INTJ, as well as relate (mostly) to the descriptions I've seen. One final thought about being perceived as an "achiever" is that I didn't care about a lot of other things, for example often underperforming in gym class. So, its possible that my Ni had me motivated for school but little else. As this was my way out of an abusive environment, as well as generational poverty, I think it might make sense based on what you said in your Ni video. Then again, I think typing has some limitations when it comes to understanding those of us who are exposed to extreme environments, which mine certainly was (Ace Score = 8). Just sharing this information, in case anyone else relates to it, as I've noticed my experiences are often slightly different from other INTJs on the interwebs!

[@diyab1056]

Wow I love all your videos but this one in particular. I was also an underachiever for most of my school life (the teachers literally thought I was mentally disabled in primary school, oops), and then suddenly became an A-student because I wanted to get into a good university to pursue a legal career. It worked, but I then got frustrated with the concept of 'climbing the ladder' because becoming a lawyer is quite a long process, so I got my degree a year sooner, and did law school and studied/completed my board exams while working for 2 years/serving my 2 years candidate attorneyship. And then also remembered that I needed a romantic relationship because I wanted to get married before 30, but before I got married, I wanted to have known the guy for many years. So I started a serious relationship too, my first (and still ongoing) relationship. So instead of doing each step one-at-a-time, I just combined the steps to reach my goals faster. I also got burnt out and my Te-dom friends (most law students seem to be Te-doms) were confused of why I was rushing. I then became a lawyer in my early 20s... so I reached my goal. And then the motivation disappeared and I decided to get a new goal and a new career. True story. I now do academic consulting.

[@bushlemon3971]

as someone who has a low Te (infp) I think this is really refreshing and interesting point of view, helpful for developing Te and calms down my dominant Fi

[@guillonremi5668]

super interesting as usual :) 8:10 I totaly relate to this perfectionism / want to be perfect on the very first try but I'd add a little nuance to that. Personaly as an INTJ it's clearly the main thing that's holding me down right now, but I'd say that it only applies for the things you want to get good at that REQUIRE TO TRAIN IN PUBLIC. I have absolutely no problem at all working like crazy and making a lot of mistakes along the way when I'm working alone to then present to other people a "perfect" result. But I'm personaly really struggling with my dream to become a stand up comedian (or at least give it a shot) precisely because as with everything you need to train to get good at it BUT here training requires you to put your work out there for the audience to judge and say if it is good or not (laughs or not) and I HATE the fact that this is an obligation to be judge before the final product is perfect. So I'm basically thinking again and again and again in my head how each and every word I'd say could be interpreted, in an attempt to anticipate and therefore controle what i can't have controle over. IDK if my rambling makes any sense to anyone, if someone has any advice to help me get out of this situation I'd really appreciate it (even though I aleady can tell that it'll be smth like "JUST DO IT") x)

[@guillonremi5668]

@@icecreaminwinter6034 well thanks a lot for the advice. I totaly observed this placebo effect on myself since i've known I'm an INTJ ^^ Gonna keep working on my material as we're quarentined anyway but when we'll bé able to go out again I'll finaly try an open mic :) Another thing related to that though is that as we process things for an extremely long time before actually putting it out there, i guess other INTJ will agree to say that we can get extra nervous precisely because we've been mentaly invested in this or that thing for so long that if it turns out to be a bad or even just slighly disapointing we'll feel like crap or even be destroyed by it. (Maybe it's the same thing with relationships that's why so many of us struggle with them)

[@symphony-of-destruction]

I've been following your channel for a quite some time, because from the first time I saw your video, you are the only INTJ I could relate to. Even though I'm not studying psychology like you do, last year when I went deeper into the whole typology, I somehow ran into the same misconceptions about some types, mainly INTJ, that you tend to talk about. I have been struggling for a while now in kind of confirming whether I am INTJ or INTP, as of last year. Before that when I took the test in the early 20's I scored INTJ each time after that for 10 years. And this video exactly explains my struggle now. It's because the Te mellowed out, and the perceiving function took over again. It's no wonder now, that when I look back, I seemed to be more planned out than I am now or in the last couple of years.

[@Sharkuterie327]

Thanks for this! Everything you say here aligns with my experience, even being a 'brash' teenager and doing poorly in school at first. I'm in the process of trying to build my 'vision' via small, well calculated changes vs big leaps of sheer will under the expectation of perfection (the usual M.O.). There is some focus in pop psychology on this strategy in the last few years... “Atomic Habits” and “The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference” come to mind. You say INTJs need to find a 'perception' that is meaningful for them (it isn't 'principle', as Fi would want. You are choosing words carefully!). I've found giving attention to inferior Se can be a good means to new insights. For me, actively observing the environment, or interactions with it, necessitates being open to new patterns instead of tunneling in on expectations from old perceptions. We tend to use Te to support a vision - discard what doesn't fit and keep what does - in a search for efficiency and structure, but Se is uncomfortable and provides an opportunity for humility that can refresh our outlook from time to time.

[@cecelianaples333]

This is perfect! I love these strengthening ones. Thank you so much!

[@web_jar6630]

I had similar experiences as an INTJ when I was young. Very accurate video.

[@samuelunias673]

This video is amazing. I'm an ISTJ and what I could not relate directly I could analogically.

[@AsuraPsych]

I figured it might be good help to ISTJs as well but I wasnt sure , glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!

[@dilannohi5675]

I see, so this explains my childhood. I thought I wasn't an INTJ back then since I was mostly a dreamer. I am now trying to develop my Te which I thought was healthier put in practice the way I did but this might not be the best way. And aslo using Ni so much is still a constant concern as I'm truly disappointed if I can't do something for the first. English is not my first language and I bought a book that was only available in English. The the author is a specialist in a certain field I want to work in. My teacher recommended me after seeing my presentation on that field . She said that documentation could be used for my future as well and also recommended me the book. When I came to read it I could barely bring myself to read one page at a time. That book is C1 in architecture, written in old English and sadly I'm not skilled enough yet. Which should motivate me but it's still disappointing.

[@madhu7096]

INTJ female here! your every vedio is unwrapping every part of my life. I'm uderstanding myself better now. thanks for everything.

[@miranda2421r]

Thank you so much for describing my struggles so accurately and offering that clear path for personal development. This will help me a lot.

[@worksbeforedeath]

funny thing, i have already watched this video, but i think i just experienced it rather than applying it. this time around, i actually tried to take some notes to fully grasp what is going on here. thanks.

[@nightcrawlergap1733]

Same reason I'm watching it again, and that it's not always clear how to escape the grasp of Ni. Reminds me of the days I'd tell myself to be rude to people that don't know what they want in life. Snob alert.

[@bett8762]

As an INTJ I totally relate to what you called the stage of 'overt'. It took me a great deal of time to get out of it.

[@ryryhc]

That makes sense, when I was an elementary school student I sucked at school and played by myself, played chess by myself and played board games by myself, then I got to highschool and middle school, my GPA was higher than 4.0 and I had goals for myself. Middle school it seemed like I was a Te dom because of the reasons you stated. Your explanations are so good compared to others.

[@PankajSingh-zy9wy]

Your words gave me wierd feelings.. It's like what's happening to my everytime. I knew this but I never thought about it.

[@RB-rc6rw]

I would add I think for and against all my opinions/ideas. Objectively. Which is how I draw all my conclusions. Whilst thinking of new ways things could be done. Objectively. ie I’m not attached to opinions, ideas or ways things can be done. Because they are always being improved upon.

[@17x71]

Very INTJ...

[@RB-rc6rw]

Yeah but from what I see, not all INTJs are like that though. Some act almost as if they have dominant SI and hold on tight to old theory’s, and first instinct is to reject anything new. Or because the person who made up the rules died, nobody living could ever add anything meaningful. Some say it’s incorrect to do this. I say it’s progression, innovation. It’s precisely because of this why KZbin exists and we’re able to learn from The conform of wherever you feel comfortable.

[@RB-rc6rw]

Then some INTJs come across as social justice warriors...

[@Lowdermoomoo]

It’s been rough as an INTJ, I like balance a lot though, so I have often found myself telling myself when to dial certain things back, like Ni or Te, sometimes that Ni wants to isolate, get lost in my own little world and I have to allow myself that time but then Te comes in like “okay, that’s enough, it’s time to work on something” I think sometimes my Te can be more demanding and it kinda is the one who reminds me to dial it back, or speak up. I feel like my Te tends to control that Ni but in a good way, that it regulates it in a sense so I’m not going into an imbalance with it, but let’s Ni run the show. Sometimes though that Te is like, okay, we need to get something done do I need to take over. That’s when that Ni is frustrated at the situation and needs it to change. Recently my boss and I had a disagreement unlike any we’ve ever had before. We have had a pretty good partnership that is mutually respectful and this wasn’t usual for us. That bothered Ni, because I knew it was because I knew exactly why that happened, so Te marched its ass to his office and said “why are you stressed? You micromanage when you’re stressed, and I don’t like being micromanaged. If you don’t tell me, it’s going to get worse and I can’t help you. I respect our ability to work together too much to ignore this disagreement and the fact that we don’t usually communicate this way, and never want to communicate with you like that again.” It ended up being something big, and I gave him a few tips on how to make it better, and he was less stressed because he had a different perspective and new ideas he hadn’t thought about. Because this is usually how we communicate. He runs out of ideas, he gets anxious but he usually comes to me at that point and I can brainstorm a few solutions, which he then implements and usually end up working. My Te wasn’t about to give that up for a tantrum. Te though has had some bitchy insensitive moments though like when I’ve straight up told someone what they’re doing is stupid. Or I can get bossy around incompetent people instead of just letting them fail on their own, like I want to just do it for them for the sake of it being done right or not letting them fall short. That’s when my Ni is like, “hey, let go, they either sink or swim, but they have to figure it out on their own.”

[@pippysmusic]

Thank you AsuraPsych, for sharing your knowledge, insight, truth & inspiration ❤️

[@getreadywithmemamma6973]

Ok, subscribed you got me…. Where’s the minion uniforms? My Te is third and a fun tertiary teenager… well maybe it’s more like 24 now I’m old enough for that and lived in an ST/NT world with an ENTJ father and life as a nurse so. Yes, my INTJ friend followed this exact development path…. Brash teenagers are hilarious and awful like shooting sharp painful darts that hit their targets, yeah teenage angst but INTJ angst is crazy nuclear.

[@RKWorldAffair]

You provide a great deal of insight and analysis on the INTJ personality, HOWEVER, it is strongly advised that you review each of your videos and witness first hand just how incredibly quick and rushed in which you deliver the message, SLOW TF DOWN!!!!

[@mr.g6177]

I was organized and enjoyed routine so was an A student when I was a child. But when I started developing Fi at the end of my teens my grades started going down. I let all the unfairness of education system get to my head. Can you explain how did you manage that ? I still struggle with the authenticity of people and systems. Edit: I seem to develop my Te really early because I had a trauma in childhood where I was almost hit by a car and also had an abusive mother.

[@HannahIm]

I'm an intj myself, and I find your explanations particularly sharp, accurate, and useful to me. Thanks.

[@Deathly_Visage]

I think often the stereotype is that INTJs are straight A students throughout school. But I can see how a teen INTJ first developing Te could use it in a way that doesn't concern academics. For example, when I was younger I was mostly a C student, graduated as a D student, and also dropped out of college. I wasn't utilizing Te as means of personal growth. I was utilizing it in an unhealthy way by judging people on whether their actions made sense based on the data I had absorbed, and I was doing it in a controlling and domineering way. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of times I was blantantly disrespectful during that time, but it was probably most of the time. To be fair, my Te still isn't as developed as it should be at age 33 because I've spent of my adult life in a loop. I did mellow out, however... going from a mellow kid, to a brash teen, back to a mellow adult. But I do need the fiery essense of Te to push me towards my goals, or else I'll stay in a state of paralysis analysis and my goals will not be actualized. And that will only lead me to shame.

[@atlantiscolors4491]

underperformance, when I was a kid, made me abandoned in my family. by the age of mid 20, I began to use my full power of INTJ. now, often my dad says "I'm sorry" to me. Then, my son is INTJ. fortunate or unfortunate, I don't know. but I definitely know how to care.

[@Zevven]

That's so true. My visions were just dreams , because I knew what to do and was in my head instead of actually doing anything.

[@discoveryself3282]

I congratulate you for this channel, very helpful, subscribed!

[@TheMaxymama]

It was the opposite for me. As a kid I was very extroverted and a high achiever. After high school I fell into depression became the opposite and have been feeling like a late bloomer since. 😢 I've spent years trying to get back to my old self

[@reviewyup592]

I was lost in my Ni up until 18 years old. And it took at least another two years before my Te began somewhat working.

[@Asapiophobe]

So I am a 14 year old Intj and my Te is developing and I always fluctuate between my passions. Now it makes sense and many people see me as harsh and sometimes cruel because I speak my mind. I have goals and want to pursue them but I fail at the discipline because I want to reach the goal and don’t appreciate the steps but I am working on it.

[@TheFlyingFishy]

Explains why i love Spoilers, I hate anticipation, just get to the point! Great video.

[@honeyloop2746]

that was a great video :D the process you described at the beginning was so me in the last years (youth). What was different in me though was that I have been a straight A student my entire life and developed a great willpower quite early on I'd say

[@AsuraPsych]

It can differ from person to person a lot I find. For me school was a problem area, for some school may be an earlier interest or something they developed good habits with. Appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching!

[@JC-db8nd]

Thank you, I needed to hear this today. Looking forward to your next videos.

[@supersearch]

Doing things is also an SE ability. The fact that SE is the fourth function is probably a problem for the INTJ to do things.

[@17x71]

Yes, it was literally all Se here. Literally nothing to do with Te...

[@kelvingivens1629]

@@17x71 not necessarily se is a perceiving function

[@AsuraPsych]

You make a good point. The "Doing" aspect would more so be aligned with the judging functions. Se, as a perceiving function as well, isnt concerned with the "why" of the perception, just the perception itself. Jung notes that for the perceiving types a perception must be shifted from the realm of a perception to the moral realm via a judging function for that perception to hold any value. Se may "act" in the moment, but it is not related to the why of an Ni dominants action typically. Think of how the ESFP is known for being quick to act, they engage in the Se, for the pure enjoyment of the perception and sensation. It isnt until the ESFP develops the underlying Fi that the Se is given reason and direction. Why should I engage in such activities? What purpose does it serve for me/the world? The same is true of the INxJ. They need to shift the Ni into a realm of moral/rational meaning.

[@sentricz_devkep7525]

Se doesn't drive you to enact things. Se drives you to experience the physical world in the moment. Te is infatuated with enacting things, and your ideas working in reality and being efficient.

[@kelvingivens1629]

@@AsuraPsych "He Speaks!"

[@IndraNet0]

Thank you for sharing your insights on the intj personality type and our need to properly develop Te. Really important to address!

[@adryanadiniz8453]

I think I'll watch this video every week from now. I really need this!

[@tehufn]

A video worth returning to

[@Oolysses]

Brilliant

[@mukherjee.p]

Yes. I'll be able to improve myself if I learn from your videos. I need a metric to judge myself and my abilities. A fine sync between Ni and Te is an amazing one

[@Thinkandgrow2024]

Thank you for this video. I am an INTJ. This video helped me understand myself better. Just like you, I underperformed till 8th grade but then I found interest in studying, particularly science subjects and I scored well in my 10th class.

[@franckydanger7536]

just wow, great content!

[@strawbrrystrawbert]

Jesus christ. I took the mbti three times in my life: late highschool, early college, and very recently. I went from ESTJ to ENTJ to INTJ. I’m now at my most content with how I conduct myself both internally and with others than I ever was before. You blew this one the fuck away, for me at least.

[@strawbrrystrawbert]

*I also used to force myself to be an extrovert because I thought asserting dominance socially was the only way to get ahead in life.

[@mermaidsushi312]

Amazingly correct!

[@jessicasfarrell]

Great video. We have to go through this and its hard. you're the only one that can do it, just keep going. half the battle is knowing what you really want. the motivation that comes from knowing that is unparalleled. 'If you set your goals ridiculously high and it's a failure, you will fail above everyone else's success. ' James Cameron

[@wolfbydespair]

This helps me on more personal level because recently last year I found that i.m intj so yeah this helps

[@thechildhoodnightmare9512]

So. Like for me "the factory" kinda works, because what I do is use Te to try and find a way to make that idea real if I like it a lot. So I would make a whole list of how to do it and try to make it happen, but many many times I'd just drop halfway and that's why my notes app is just 738399284 lists 😅

[@yaakovbarrokion7650]

when I was 14 years old, my school performance was the bargaining chip for my father to buy the things I wanted. I remember very well that in 2014 I wanted a new video game, and for that I would have to have an excellent school year. The interesting thing is that I knew what I wanted and how to make it happen. In this case, I believe that the imbalance was between Extrovert Thinking and Introverted Feeling, since this year I was a complete asshole and my colleagues were just tools for me to achieve my goal. Eventually, I realized this flaw.

[@alexkoshy8010]

Excellent presentation of the concepts. Useful.

[@mikec1737]

As INTJ I completely agree with everything.

[@sanskrutijaiswal2816]

I realised as an INTJ you can use Te only to a certain extent and it is not very subtle to use it without a purpose. Its like hammering on a newly dried cement wall.

[@troywesterbur706]

I don't really agree with this unless its something that I have no interest in. I will learn something and practice it to perfection if it is important or interesting to me. With that said it becomes hyper focused and everything else will get neglected until it is mastered. But my learning curve is rather fast and I will become an expert on a topic much faster then most and that is because of my hyper focus and my ability to grasp concepts.

[@AsuraPsych]

That's actually one of the issues in INTJ/Te development, the Ni/Te learning curve is often exceptionally fast but due to this it is not uncommon for Ni dominants to face the "Silver medal" struggle. They can excel at many things fairly quickly but they don't often reach levels of true mastery in those topics for various reasons. They get "good enough" and treat it as done/learned, they bore of it because the gap between proficiency and mastery is often massive which causes them to switch to the next thing to be learned or just abandon that interest. The INTJ without Te proficiency will think themselves exceptional at their pursuit without the true Te recognition of the range of ability within that field. When perception and judgement are working in hand well, this applies to how you spoke. There will be a inner need to bring the perception forth, for the perception to be shifted from just that, a vision, to a "Goal." Once this shift occurs the INTJ tends to be relentless in the pursuit of the goal. If Te is well developed, the proper steps will show themselves and the dedication will remain. Te does have a brute force approach though most of the time, it's just important to recognize that this isnt always the best approach.

[@troywesterbur706]

@@AsuraPsych maybe I am rare but I don't think so. I will master it. That is just my nature. But as i said if i have little or no intrest i then will only be proficient. Just enough to get it done. But this does lead to procrastination. If I haven't mastered it or think my idea is perfect I will not start the project until it is. So naturally I have a lot of unfinished projects laying around. But I never give a silver medal effort. I will always give a gold if it needs to be done or if its something that I really enjoy.

[@badreddineblb9351]

omg , i grow up as an INTJ too , n the soundtrack at the end of ur video is the same i used at one of my highschool presentations

[@KatanaKamisama]

When I was in grade school and middle school I hated math. I would just sit in front of my homework with glazed yes for HOURS and get nothing done. My parents home schooled us in our early years since we were over seas and the local education options were not adequate in my parent's opinion. Anyways, my dad was responsible for teaching math and science and my mom did the rest. My dad is an INTJ, and and so am I. Anyways he noticed that when he assigned "word problems" I easily and rapidly completed my homework. We discovered that for me the "why" was key to my Te. The word problems gave me a reason to do the math. Math for the sake of math was pointless. Math for the sake of solving a problem was compelling. Once I reached the place where I viewed math as a problem solving tool, I found it MUCH easier to focus and develop those skills. Went to a boarding school my Jr. and Sr. years of HS, and then got into a private University studying engineering. I never finished that degree for reasons beyond my control, but the Te tools I picked up from solving word problems have served me to this day.

[@Ginger-hi2to]

In my childhood it seems my cognitive functions were flipped, so I was literally like ESFP. And my mom is a sensor, so she stimulated me to develop my Se. But I was bad in school, teachers called me lazy and stupid, cuz I liked sport only. After around 12 ages I fell into Ni-Fi loop and I was sured that I'm an INFP. But in a college in age of 16 I started to develop my Te very hard. Well it was striving for productivity. Cuz yes I dream a lot and I wanted to be an animator from my childhood, but I felt like a looser, because of my laziness. Well, now I'm 18 ages, I'm a workoholic:) But I really wanna keep balance between Te and Ni, and negotiate with my Fi finally

[@5P4C3V01D]

Simple answer: Just be a like an ENTJ, using your Se a bit more.

[@AnishBhola]

Hey Nice video, I would suggest to lower the tempo of your speech a bit for better engagement

[@rdawnkelley]

Great insight! Thanks for the advice!

[@Dark-iv3gm]

You know its kinda funny I developed mental defences against every simular trouble such as you speak about in this video and more when I was 9 years old but back then I didnt know the logical resons why I was doing them and now when I developed My Te and I backtracked to see why I did what I did I realised and I was like HOLLLLY SHIIIT I realised that I developed an OverPower Psychological System on Sheer Instinct Ni and I am like kinda bored from being so O.P. now. Dont get me wrong I love my ways and if I achieve success at the beginning of my plan. Just try to stop me if you can but still its kinda too much.

[@chamwazamusole9386]

Wow and this whole time I thought something was wrong with me

[@franlawrence6954]

Thank you. This was excellent.

[@pianotationsystem]

Thank you!

[@SuperXrunner]

Wow, I must be an exception to that theory!! Still stayed in my head. It must be a culture thing, but good point for those who need it

[@ourochroma]

Yeah I wasn't too great in Normal School. Now I'm interested into knoledge, now that I found something I can be passionate about

[@Pathfinfer11]

I avoid or ignore most individuals because the homogenous majority annoy me with short sightedness and sheepishness behaviour. I have a few close friends that give meaningful discussions. Gathering information from the environment is crucial to a INTJ like myself before I can shape the environment. Therefore adapting extroverted thinking is essential. There is another odd anomaly I find doing Myers Briggs tests I usually get two common results INTJ or ENTJ is it possible to be a balance between Extrovert and Introvert?

[@ishyameru6232]

I get INTJ and INTP

[@neginosan]

your videos are really useful, thank u👍🏼

[@jennifermcmillen80]

Thank you. This video is very informative and helpful.

[@AsuraPsych]

Appreciate that, thanks for watching!

[@realitiesoftypology7502]

This was interesting, and I think I've gained something from it.

[@maxweing9843]

Great video. Good work.

[@Quraishy]

Man you are smart, I would like to ask you a relationship question

[@teddybeadle1243]

Great video, my man

[@Beyondflix]

Thanks for this dude!

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

So you think that the imbalance in the auxiliary function (at puberty) is due to its disconnected nature with the dominant? I seem to see it as an imbalance with the tertiary and a bias towards the dominant rather than the inferior. I guess the question boils down to the independent nature of the auxiliary (at puberty). How do we integrate it and make it work with the other functions. Is it the independence from the dominant that is the issue or the independence from the tertiary and inferior?

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

"It wasn't until I found my Ni Passion" I think it was your Fi Passion (NiFi) that you discovered. Especially when you talk about it in relation to university, it's about the time we develop our tertiary anyways.

[@AsuraPsych]

I think we could see it as the auxiliary axis all together, not just one of the two functions. I think Te and Fi come hand in hand, but the extroverted nature of Te gives the true balance to the dominant. NiFi, in my opinion, will have the passion without the pull through. I think Te/extroverted judging must be developed for the IxTJs to actually reach a healthy state, like Jung proposed. It is imperative for the auxiliary judging function to surface if the subjective irrational types have any hope of translating their perceptions into anything meaningful to the outer world. Just my opinions though. Appreciate the feedback/input.

[@s.u.5285]

I will say as INTJ I never had the overtness problem in teen years or 20s. In my case the Ni has always been super dominant. In fact as I get later in life that overtness you mention, I notice has always been a missing component for me. I have always been refered to as very mellow and "nice" person. Its possible having dominant ESTJ father who uses his Te dominantly kept any ego I might have developed in check.

[@rayy5576]

ah man, this overly critical part is so me when i was younger :( i hurt so many people..

[@kennedyketofast3405]

I know I'm an INTJ on the right path when you get to the point I'm interested in at 5.20 seconds 👀