Atari 7800 Plus Announced! But is it Worth it?

[@marklechman2225]

Ordered mine immediately. And yes I have a 2600+ and a couple of OG VCS’s and a 7800 and that handheld Atari from several years ago, etc. I’ve paid for these games and consoles a million times over and that’s ok. My disposable income is all pointed towards Atari these days.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@marklechman2225 absolutely nothing wrong with spending your disposable income on stuff that makes you happy. I'm in a similar boat as you and I don't regret preordering mine!

[@IvoryTowerCollections]

I'm holding off this time. i did buy a 2600+ and had been impressed with it. But like a lot of stuff, I ended up putting in back in its box and on the shelf while I continue to break out my actual 7800 to play games on. For me the loading process delay just reminds me on these consoles that I'm playing an emulator and I can do that just as easily on my PC and still have it load up quicker. But for those that don't have these consoles already and are curious to know what it was about. Then yes, I think this is a very good way to get into the 7800 and experience it. Petscii Robots sounds like another excellent 7800 game that isn't likely to ever get support either. It can be made to work as I've got a FW on my 2600+ that can play the game, but it required having to replicate some of the games assets directly into the FW to do it and there are complications with Atari doing that on anything official it would seem.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@IvoryTowerCollections some excellent points Crossbow. I have heard people say the delay kills the experience for them. I don't mind it but it does affirm that you're emulating. And you're absolutely right, Petscii Robots is another game that will never likely work. Such a shame. And if you have a 2600+ and your happy with it, there is no reason to get this. You'll be able to play the new games and upgrade firmware just fine. I mean I know you know this Ivory I was just throwing it out there for people reading this. I think you'd be a great person to discuss this release with!

[@cryptocoffee13]

I absolutely love it! More cartridges! Homebrews! Hard to find games that have gone up in price in the market. Wireless controller! 9-pin adapter! Smaller than the OG, easier to set up on a modern tv or monitor. Comes with Crystal Quest! 🎉🎉🎉

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Right! I'm excited personally!

[@adm712]

Unlike the 2600+, Atari seems to be created its own eco system with the 7800+ release. The console is just a part of it. The fact we now have official 7800 homebrew releases in cart form is huge news. I for one am excited about this news.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@adm712 I'm excited too. I hope people watch the stream tonight because I think a lot of people are missing the point. Atari seems to be releasing an Atari+ line where you can buy any plus console and play new 2600 and 7800 releases. And they have rereleased, new titles and collections. How is this not a good thing? Mostly a good thing!

[@tarstarkusz]

We've had 7800 homebrew releases on cartridge for a long time.

[@JayDee-iy5be]

@@tarstarkusz But now they're not 'homebrews' they are official.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@JayDee-iy5be I've been advocating "official" cartridge releases for a long time with the PNP machines. You release the PNP machine with cartridge slot and then release collections on a compatible cartridge.

[@johneygd]

Well, if there ever will be a pac land port for the atari 7800, then i will definitely buy that game😁

[@MrShuaTV]

I genuinely hope that we see the homebrew scene pop off with more people taking interest in creating more games for the 7800.

[@paulshever5104]

I hope a 5200 comes someday.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I think if we keep asking proving there's a market they will do it. If it's financially viable.

[@lorensims4846]

There's always The 400 Mini that will emulate a 5200 (though I hear that still needs improvement).

[@CFF1974]

I agree with you 100%. It is basically a 2600+ in a 7800 shell with a wireless pad. If I did not buy a 2600+ on sale from Amazon about a month, month and a half ago, I could have probable buy this. But as it stands, it a an easy pass. Keeping hope for a 5200+ with re-engineered analog controllers.

[@RockyP77]

That would be cool! Maybe if the 800 is successful

[@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial]

To me, this is worth it! I’d love to have this for the holiday season!

[@ShinSynZero]

The 7800+ came out of nowhere imo. I'm relatively geeked about it, the 7800 being my first console and all. I was already on the fence about getting back into the 7800, so this is probably the best way to go. I wish they went w/ N.American look for the console though.

[@Trialwolf]

The cartridges are what I am interested in, I'm still new to Atari games and collecting so I missed the original AtariAge releases. It is good to see Atari acknowledging homebrew games with these more official releases. As for the system I can hold off as I have the 2600+, but then again this 7800+ may be more for mainstream people looking for an entry point to Atari that may not like the anesthetic of the 2600....... or people who love collecting everything.

[@socrates0603]

I think of the 2600+ as a 7800+ in a different shell and not the other way :) I mean, the 2600+ is a 7800 disguised in a 2600 shell. I assume since the 2600 is a much stronger brand than the 7800, that's why we saw the 2600+ first. The 2600+ sales must have done well and that's why there's now the 7800+. This is what I believe. I hope it leads to more Atari hardware products. More than the hardware (which I haven't bought any outside of the VCS) I was very excited to see Bounty Bob. I immediately preordered it. I'm ok with Frenzy and Berzerk being split into two products. I think most people did not know that Berzerk was included in the original Frenzy cartridge anyway, and splitting it into two products gives more attention to the classic we all love.

[@nisus8]

Would love to finally get an Atari XEGS+ and a Lynx+ if this 7800+ release sells well, here.

[@markheberlein1224]

Thanks for the video! I’m going for it with the 7800+ and *[gulp]* all the video games! 🕹️👾

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@markheberlein1224 oh wow. Your a maniac! I love it!

[@Alex_Valentine]

I'm excited over the new 7800 games and the system is catching my eye, too.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@Alex_Valentine there is a lot to get excited about for sure. Let me know if you pull the trigger on getting anything or not!

[@chrisd8458]

I need this. I have 2600+ but I was late to the Atari party. The first time I bought an Atari was in 2012. And it was a 7800. So i have more of an attachment to the 7800 than I do for 2600. Atleast visually.

[@Monhamd1000]

Same as 2600+ but with a 7800 case and seemingly better hardware. If they had a 5200 cartridge adapter, then that would be different.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@Monhamd1000 that would be awesome! And surprisingly appropriate!

[@RockyP77]

Yup... I have the 2600+.... no need for this... unless it could play flashcarts

[@gregclare]

What’s the “better hardware”? The product pages indicate the hardware and software are identical. Just a new shell for those that prefer the 7800 case nostalgia. The big news is wireless controllers compatible with both!

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@gregclare so there is internal wireless receivers for the controllers, an improved cartridge slot and some improved parts related to the dumper. I have not verified but that's what I've heard.

[@gregclare]

@@TheAtariNetwork Thanks for further clarifying. I wasn't sure if the wireless was internal or if you just used the same DB9 adapter you'd use with a 2600+. I just got myself a 2600+ on special (finally). The 2600 shape is more nostalgic for me, so I think I'll be good with just my 2600+ 🤓

[@AndyVanHalen]

Don’t care either way… The 7800 coming back is just a beautiful thing. Pretty awesome that Bob D’s magnus opus is now an official sequel.

[@tuffteddy1446]

7800 carts are pretty expensive these days.

[@captainbeastazoid7084]

Definitely. Alien Brigade is so expensive now which sucks cause it's one of the best games on the system.

[@BBfanfun]

they should make an Arcade quality 7800 port of Crystal Castles with TrakBall ... what Atari should have done to sell the console in the first place ...

[@AndyVanHalen]

This would be absolutely amazing… I’ve been hoping the homebrew community would make this happen for so long. If I had the ability I’d do it myself, but sadly I am not nearly smart enough 😂

[@kranibal]

I am totally on the 7800 front! The wireless CX78 is a great addition. What made it an easier decision for an upcoming buy is the inclusion of Bentley Bear! WOW! Now we need Rikki and Vikki.

[@Pac-Lander]

Yes! I heard the issue with Rikki and Vikki. was the unique audio technology. But I own a physical cart of R&V and it plays on the original 7800 hardware so I'm hoping it can be made possible somehow on the 7800+ eventually. Attack of the Petscii Robots too hopefully.

[@captainbeastazoid7084]

100% agree. R and V is definitely one of the best games on the system.

[@tomflanagan3889]

I did not buy a 2600+ but will most likely be getting this. I do think it is basically just a 2600+ in a new case. I think they said there were some minor improvements and it comes with the latest firmware which was a selling point to me. I do not have a windows machine currently and that is the only way to update firmware currently. I do have a retron 77 so the crappy 7800 performance out of the box and the need for a windows machine really deterred me from buying the 2600+. I'm glad I held out.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

You're absolutely correct in your evaluation and comment. I'm glad this machine will bring you into the fold finally! One of us... One of us....

[@nisus8]

Got mine preordered too. After completing checkout, I indicated (in the survey-poll) that I'd like to see Atari continue to release both Atari Age homebrew games and new games, as well as re-release "classic" 7800 cartridges as well.

[@saurondp]

I was about to order the 2600+ when I saw the announcement for the 7800+, which is actually much more appealing to me. It's a shame that it won't support Rikki & Vikki anytime soon, I really hope they eventually can add support for it. Despite that, though, the 7800+ package is much more appealing to me than the 2600+, especially with BBCQ included as the pack-in and the wireless CX-78+.

[@fensthespook]

I have A LOT of questions about this....and I haven't done one iota of research beyond seeing the advertisement and reading the initial response on Atari Age. I haven't even finished the video, but I had to get my hot take in here! First of all...is this just a reskinned 2600+ with the official firmware updated? If so, I have a real problem with that. They basically have abandoned the 2600+ despite it being very popular with folks like us (as opposed to the GSP or whatever). No official firmware updates AT ALL and beyond the original three rereleases, no other new games. So now I'm supposed to buy ANOTHER system that has the firmware update I had to manually put on the 2600+ ? What?? The advertisement indicates that some of the new games are for the 2600+ and some are for the 7800+ only...and if that's true I have a big problem there as well. You are telling me that the 2600+ can play 7800 games...but only some? And if that's true, why not just patch it with a firmware update so that it can? I know there are certain homebrews that don't work but those are a very small minority of games. I just don't like the feel here....this feels like a cash grab straight up. That coupled with their propensity for focusing on extremely expensive (in my opinion) merch and the piss poor state of the VCS support, I'm losing faith in Atari. Not that they won't continue to put out cool content and games, but they sure seem not to give a F**K about customers and their money. " Spent $130 on the 2600+ ?? YOU DUMBASS...we'll allow you to fix this mistake by purchasing the 7800+ instead!!" Anyway, now I'll finish the video and probably delete my comment once I realize you cover all of this.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@fensthespook we can address all this. So there could still be official 2600 plus firmware updates. I haven't read anywhere that they said there wouldn't be. And you can always apply the updates from Atariage to get the latest firmware. I'm assuming the 7800 plus will release with the most up to date stable firmware but who knows. As for the games they are all forward and backward compatible. So anything that works on the 2600+ will work on the 7800+ and vice versa. For all intents and purposes they are the same console. I think it's for anybody who likes the 7800 aesthetic and there is no reason to buy it if you have a 2600 plus. The wireless controllers, the games and everything else will be compatible with any Atari+ console according to what they've said. I hope that cleared some things up

[@cyrollan]

​@@TheAtariNetwork does the 2600+ accept all the same controllers, including wireless?

[@fensthespook]

@@TheAtariNetwork Do you know why they separated the new games into two categories (New games for the 2600+ and New Games for the 7800+) in the advertisement, if they are all compatible with both consoles? I don't doubt you are right, but I was just curious as that is confusing messaging from Atari imo.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@fensthespook I'm about 95% sure they are all compatible. It's the same system just a different shell and it will probably ship with newer firmware. Think of it like a limited edition Xbox. The Star wars edition can play all the same games as the original and the halo edition.

[@Blitzer1001]

@@cyrollan It will. However, you will have to use the included db9 adapter cable for the wireless controllers so sadly they won't be wireless if you do that.

[@Shy-guy82]

I already pre-ordered mine! Thanks for bringing this up!

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I hope you enjoy it when it comes out! And thanks for watching!

[@PitfallHarry72]

If it used an SoC like the Flashback 2, I'd already have it ordered, but it uses emulation. I already have a 2600+, and the additional things the 7800+ offers aren't attractive enough for me to bother spending the money.

[@danestegman155]

Good video! I agree with what you are saying that this is just the Atari 2600+ rebranded! Not sure about getting one of these systems yet! I do have the original Atari 7800 system! The wireless joysticks are interesting and some of the newer games announced for the 7800 sound interesting too!

[@Blitzer1001]

I will deffinetly pick it up sometime! I picked up a video modded jr 2600 instead of the 2600+ because it was cheaper so I have all reason to buy this. The wireless controller will be handy and it has a good game so I will look forward to its release.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@Blitzer1001 I hope it's a good console. I'm glad it's getting more people into the hobby and supporting Atari too. Hope you enjoy it when it comes out Blitzer1001!

[@euronymous076]

Only one game included and not even a period game from Atari catalog, why ???

[@gregwesson8815]

TheC64 was re-cased as theVIC-20 with a different game selection. They made it a limited edition (I had to order it from Italy) and I'm pretty sure they sold out. I have both for collecting reasons but they can both function the same way with the same hardware.

[@themadmoderator8465]

but will the atari age homebrew carts work on this system

[@pacbilly]

Asteroids Deluxe has always made me scratch my head. I like the fact that it gives you the option to use a shield instead of the warp, but one thing I don't like is the reversion to wire frame graphics. The graphics in the standard 7800 version of Asteroids have always been my favorite of any platform. To see them take such a huge step backwards is a big disappointment, especially since it's the only way we can use the shield option.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@pacbilly i agree 100% that I prefer the improved 7800 graphics for asteroids. But I think Bob was going for authenticity and that's why he attempted the sudo vector style.

[@pacbilly]

Sure, but as we learned from Joust, arcade accuracy does not always equal superiority. I wonder if there's a rom hack that gives you the shield option with the original 7800 graphics...

[@Z64bit]

​@@pacbillyJoust on the 7800 is the best version though

[@pacbilly]

@@Z64bit Hands down. By a country mile.

[@Z64bit]

@@pacbilly What version were you comparing it to for "arcade accuracy" btw? Because it seems fairly close imo

[@excaliburnorth446]

Does anyone know if the packed in game is Cartridge only or Complete in Box? Need to know so I can get a full copy 😅

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I guarantee that it will be a cartridge with that sleeve like with the 2600+ if you want a complete in box I would buy the retail release. You could always return it if I'm wrong but they don't seem to include the full boxes with pack ins.

[@MarquisDeSang]

Requiring these devices to be pluged to a Legacy PC running Legacy OS (Windows) for the update is dumb. It is much better for everyone to plug a usb key or sd card with the update firmware on it like Atari 400 mini.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@MarquisDeSang yeah they haven't done a great job on bringing out easy to install firmware...

[@MarquisDeSang]

@@TheAtariNetwork I bricked an Atari Game Pro while trying to update it with their shady and crappy chinese software updater from the 90's that do not validate anything. This company that makes these device is stupid. Atari 400, Amiga 500, C64 and Analog Turbo Duo all are self updater with firmware on the sdcar/usbkey are much better. Forcing people to do the process with only windows and a USB 1.0 in 2024 is a crime. F them

[@rauldelarosa2768]

I may have to pre order in the next month..in the meantime.. I'll be getting a retron 77 as I don't have much success with a working and reasonably priced Atari 2699.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

I hope most of all, that Atari can license the Pac-Man collections Bob made from Namco. I really, really want those.

[@ezedilu07]

I have preordered a lot of Switch games so I don´t have the money right now, but I would love to buy it ❤

[@d.vaughn8990]

The 7800 should be the technically superior product, as compared to the 2600+! Wireless controllers and a plastic case are cool but not enough. I will pay more for a first rate product!

[@captainbeastazoid7084]

I think it's worth it! I've wanted to get a 7800 for ages but I'd rather have a fresh, new, 7800 right from the factory than an original. Plus, it comes with the awesome European controller. If you buy an original, it usually comes with the joystick and you have to pay a lot extra to get your hands on the European controller. So yeah, definitely buying this and definitely buying some of the new homebrews. Looking forward to playing Harpy's Curse and Dragon's Havoc on this. Great new homebrew games by this brilliant programmer!

[@TeeroyHammermill]

I don't really need a 7800+, but I did just pre-order Bounty Bob 7800 thanks to this video. 😄😄👌👌👍👍

[@fireguyCO]

I really hope that this has a solid firmware update. Any chance that if there's a firmware update for it in the future it can be done over WiFi on your tv? I would say likely not. I ruined a 2600+ trying to do a beta update and had to buy a new one. I'm not very knowledgeable doing updates on a PC. So it's on me for screwing mine up. I went ahead and bought the 7800+ anyway hoping that the firmware is up to date and that it can play more games this time. For now I just have a 2600+ that's hanging without an update. Atari should come out with their own official update to show the fans they care and not forcing them to buy a new system every year. I don't want to have to see an Atari 2600+ Deluxe added in the future if you know what I mean.

[@stefan6538]

The 2600+ didn't work with the Harmony cartridge (unlike the real 2600), I doubt the 7800+ will either. My 2600+ got an hour of playtime and went right back into the box.

[@LanceMan]

It seems to be the 2600+ in a new case. I will say I am more likely to buy this one than the 2600+. My problem is that I just don't have a pile of games laying around. Also, I have most of these games on my VCS. Not sure it's a value for me but it is awesome to see the 7800 again.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@LanceMan it won't be for everybody. You have to be willing to pick up some games for sure.

[@IICrossII]

I'm going to get the 7800+, not sure what one yet. I love the wireless controllers. So i can hook that up to my 4K tv and not worry about cords. Plus I like the 7800 more then the 2600

[@jasonmann3775]

Does the pause button work on the 7800+? I worry because it is not listed as a feature.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@jasonmann3775 it will I'm almost 100% confident in that

[@deathofkings5633]

It would be awesome to get story progression screens and little additions to asteroids , Berserk, etc.

[@SpartanDiab]

It has the same soc as the 2600+ so I am hoping they will improve compatability with homebrew games on both those consoles, they should be running the same software the same way. Wireless 2 button controller is nice, I missed the 2600 craze but the 7800 feels much more like the stuff I was seeing as a kid.

[@Jolt7800]

I think there is plenty to be excited about this announcement. Especially those who did not get the 2600 plus. I have a modded 7800 I use and another 7800 as a back up. I am definitely interested in some of the games. BUT if they come out with the Atari 2600 Junior Plus I am going to cry foul.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@Jolt7800 lol I hate to say it but I could see that happening (2600 junior plus). I noticed Atari+ being promoted in the announcement so I think it's going to be a whole line of throwback consoles. But hopefully it will mean we get a Jag+ or a 5200+. Hey, a man can dream

[@rossydv]

I don’t understand why they WOULDN’T include reimagined versions of old games. How difficult could it be? I mean new hardware playing 50 year old games. Nostalgically it’s cool but that’s it. I WANT an excuse to buy it, but it’s just not there.

[@derek980]

When r they gonna release Intellivision compatible stuff?

[@C_Money206]

Great video! Held off on 2600+ but think this is the one for me. Good call on the paddles, does not have the bundled games. So think will just order the system as is and add those in. Kinda lame but I am sure they thought of that.

[@brotherblue3340]

Amazon says the release date is 11/29/24.

[@pugsley2005]

and Saturday, 9 November 2024 for Amazon Australia

[@OriginalGrasshopper]

Yeah, this is definitely just a cash grab since the innards are identical to the 2600+. My concern is about the large amount of 7800 PAL carts that won’t work on the 2600+. Will this problem be fixed on the 7800+? Us European Atarians need to know!

[@PhantomSputnik]

we need a re release of the lynx!

[@quartermuncher64]

Tempting, but I already have a working Atari 7800. Might buy the controller and a copy of Crystal Quest.

[@Gamma00Ray]

For the console, if they fixed the paddle issues by now and you didn't already get a 2600+ then it would be as worth it as the 2600+. The games would be as worth it as anything else. I might get Berzerk and Frenzy.

[@jeromesppd1383]

It's a great deal, imo. I almost bought 2 Atari 2600+ , so this works for me!

[@jeremiahthomas8140]

What happened to that livestream?

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@jeremiahthomas8140 tonight

[@TheAtariNetwork]

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[@cyrollan]

He was teasing us.

[@rustymixer2886]

2600+ (plus) meant it could play 7800 games top so whats + about 7800+?

[@johneygd]

That that wireless controller is backwards compatible with those original atari systems, is actually pretty cool. And while it is cool on paper that crystall quest is getting bundled as a side scrolling platformer, (wich the 7800 should,ve back in the day) but it is 38 years waaay too late, so i don’t think that it even will sell as close to that of the nes classic mini. Also the atari 7800+ is just a 2600 + in disguise being emulation based, why not using fpga instead??? And because of that, i call this just a cash grabbing strategy from atari. (Eventhrough this should,ve be the atari 2600+ instead albeit still named 7800) Thing is i already own many atari systems including the 2600 jr and atari 7800 so i don’t need this thing😟

[@jayschulz8060]

i mean i would want something better than a shell. i have RGB ATARI 7800. ILL BUY THE BENTLY BEAR and FRENZY

[@rameybutler-hm7nx]

Alright! Alright! I give up dangit! Dammit ill buy it! But before i do i want to know WHY hasnt Atari made deals with activision and bandai namco???

[@joeg4707]

Jaguar+ would be cool.

[@lorensims4846]

Cash grab or market strategy? I think the 7800+ is a 2600+ with updated firmware in a shiny new package. I hope this means "better." I recently took possession of a 7800 Pro System along with about two dozen game cartridges but the joysticks don't work right so I'm just here for the controllers. I think this means that Atari is going to keep coming out with new game cartridges which was their original home marketing strategy in the first place.

[@metronome8471]

7800+ is still more powerful than an Amico.

[@salvadormendoza5045]

If it's basically a 2600. How does it play 7800 games?

[@m0nde]

I have no idea why Atari decided to put this out. It sounds like a completely unnecessary item. There's no change in the software, no better or different compatibility. The only benefit is the built in wireless connection for controllers. I'm much more interested in the 2600's form factor.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@m0nde I think it's for people that prefer the 7800 aesthetic. I'd think of it as no different than when Xbox releases a Star wars theme 360 and then next year a gears of war 360, or PlayStation putting out a good of war console and then the following year a crash bandicoot console or something.

[@mrsam6751]

For hard core Atari collectors.

[@JoeUzzolino]

7800 games are already costly. This will make values soar even further So Pitfall II and Stargate won’t play on this either?

[@thematt5325]

I’m good bro

[@steveallen6909]

i like to get the new Atari7800 plus

[@Lordkazekage1987]

By the look of it its just a slightly upgraded atari 2600+

[@kghhgkgk6322]

2600+ in a different shell. Pretty disappointing.

[@mrp4242]

Forgive my ignorant questions, but does this mean: 1-The Bentley Bear game be available to purchase separately? 2-And the Bentley Bear game will work on the 2600+ since it’s the same essential hardware?

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@mrp4242 yes and yes

[@AndyVanHalen]

Also… re-release the PainLines, you cowards!!!! (I actually really do like those controllers for some games…)

[@JumboJosh-lv3mo]

I haven’t even seen the video, I already know it’s a cash grab. This is a repackaged 2600+. A product a day keeps there employees with pay, I’m joking, they don’t pay there employees.

[@RayPruitt-ji9jx]

It seems too similar to the 2600+ that it makes little difference to me which one to purchase if at all, so hopefully we'll learn more as we get closer to its physical release.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@RayPruitt-ji9jx I think that's what people are missing. It can play the same games as the 2600 plus. It's not a replacement or a different console, it's the same console for people who want the aesthetic. It's like having different versions of the Xbox like Star wars, halo, etc. It's all the same console they just look a bit different.

[@madmax2069]

Well technically it's always a cash grab when it comes to all companies that are for profit.

[@tarstarkusz]

Wireless joysticks? No thanks. Give me wired.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@tarstarkusz they have those too but you'll have to buy them separately

[@madmax2069]

Nothing wrong with wireless controllers, unless you're forgetful Jones and forget to charge them.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@madmax2069 I still play with my 1977 Atari 2600! What makes you think they will have the proprietary battery available in 47 plus years?

[@OriginalGrasshopper]

Same here! I am not a wireless fan whatsoever. Give me wired, too!

[@madmax2069]

@@tarstarkusz dude, it's a battery, you can easily modify to work, if it's using lithium it's not going to be as proprietary as you think, lithium batteries largely use the same voltage ranges. So it wouldn't really be that hard to replace said battery.

[@raydurazo]

Now they just need wireless paddles and we good .

[@madmax2069]

Well there are the wireless CX40 and the euro 7800 controller

[@raydurazo]

@@madmax2069 I'm now we just need wireless paddles and we'll have most to all Atari controllers from that ere wireless .

[@madmax2069]

@@raydurazo that would only make sense, unless there's some kind of issue keeping that from happening.

[@cyrollan]

Man :( hearing that it has the same internals as the 2600+ makes me a little disappointed.

[@jayschulz8060]

cx78 controller in my opinion sucks , its too small and thumb stick is thin. Retroboys NES style controller better

[@sandranemeth2164]

Rad

[@ag3ntorange164]

Time to cut the crap and give us an Atari ST and Falcon mini. They can keep the Jaguar.

[@OrionsAngel]

Nintendo offered Atari a chance to produce the NES in the states & they declined. They said video games are over. NES became a big hit! In a panic Atari who had the 7800 in the back burner, but canceled it, quickly rushed the 7800 to market to compete with the NES. 7800 It flopped! My point is that the 7800 is not worthy of this plus system. The games feel rushed. They're bad. The fact the ad calls it "iconic" is insulting. The Atari 5200 should be getting an Atari 5200+ release before the 7800. It has better quality games and great arcade ports. Atari could also re-release the crappy controllers, but now have them work well. A chance to redeem the Atari 5200. I'm not happy how Atari keeps neglecting the Atari 5200. No, the Atari 400 mini is not worthy tribute of the 5200. I don't care if the hardware is the same. I grew up with the 5200. I'm nostalgic for it.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

@@OrionsAngel for many of us the 7800 is iconic. I grew up with one and I love the design. As far as Atari not releasing the NES, it's meh. They already had the 7800 and Nintendo was an arcade company at the time. Hindsight is always 50/50. It sounds like this product isn't for you

[@OrionsAngel]

@@TheAtariNetwork I mean I'm sure that's the case. I just don't think we should have received an Atari 5200+ before a 7800+ Go in order of release. Skipping a whole Atari console makes it seem like Atari neglects the 5200.

[@randallgoeswhere]

Lets be real here. CFW will happen and break this system wide open just like anything else. It'll be able to play everything Atari has ever made.

[@madmax2069]

Well to a certain extent, you are still limited on how much you can emulate due to the SOC that's used. I doubt you'll be able to emulation many arcade games, and then there are a selection of homebrew that will probably never run.