Atari Gamestation Pro Controller Compatability Testing | What Are Your Options?

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@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
🚨 UPDATES 🚨 As we get further info and detail about compatibility, I'll try to keep this comment updated. • There seem to be power considerations with Xbox controllers. I get best results using a charged wireless controller (under its own power) connected via USB for communication. Strictly wired controllers may or may not receive enough power from the USB-C port to function.
@chrisnunya7171
@chrisnunya7171 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that red controller you were using a PS "4" controller? Not a 2 or 3? It looks like a 4. Now I'm not sure! 🤣🫨🤷🏼‍♂️
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@chrisnunya7171 Sure, if you say so. 😀 I am not that familiar with modern consoles, and even less so with Sony consoles.
@OM19_MO79
@OM19_MO79 Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUpYou sure you are Gen X? You sound more like a proper boomer. I was born in 79, I know the difference between a Dual Shock 1, 2, 3, 4, SIXAXIS and Dual Sense (yes, I know the difference between a DS 1 and 2 and a SIXAXIS and a DS3). Anyway, is good to know that they are finally listening to the customers, let’s see how much does that last. Atgames used to listen, now they are fucking back all of their customers by stripping out their devices of advertised functionalities. By 2026, My Arcade will be back to their ways, I’m sure.
@wolfshanze5980
@wolfshanze5980 Жыл бұрын
You should try the Retro-Bit Official Sega Genesis USB Controller... it can use either D or X input (you said X input works with the Gamestation Pro) and because it uses the Genesis button layout (namely A, B, C buttons in a row) this should be PERFECT for games like Missile Command Arcade with three bases.
@joezar33
@joezar33 Жыл бұрын
​@@GenXGrownUpyou going too do a add rom video in the future ? I'm more of a Sega/Nintendo kid, but I'm starting too like this little Atari Gizmo after watching what it can do so far .
@kranibal
@kranibal Жыл бұрын
Just subbed. Your presence in front of the camera is top notch. Your content is also great.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Well, thank you, Martin. That's very kind of you to say. I appreciate your subscription and your viewership! 😀
@islygon
@islygon Жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks for following up on the controllers!
@jdubbs8242
@jdubbs8242 Жыл бұрын
All this thing needs is a really slick custom firmware and its the Atari killer app. Just ordered mine based on your vids- thanks for the info!
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new info- The GameStation really is beginning to get more appealing as each day goes by!
@ctbinary42
@ctbinary42 Жыл бұрын
The question I have now is how a new controller will work on added roms. I’m sure we will see in a follow up 👍
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Good question. From what I've seen so far I'd expect the same results with add-ons via SD. As you noted, I will have to verify in the next one.
@richyasi7424
@richyasi7424 Жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on getting 3-4 player capability up and running for the paddle games? Would having 4 Gamestation Pro controllers let you do 4-player Warlords, Breakout, etc? That would be great to know. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
@craig5656
@craig5656 Жыл бұрын
We bought the GSP for our kids Christmas. There is no doubt that they will like the new sleek look as well as wireless controllers. We have a retro arcade near our home so they will recognize some of the pre loaded games and I’m looking forward to loading some of my old favorites. The smaller platform as well as the wireless controllers will make it perfect to connect to the tv in our mini van for road trips. And lastly the cost is a no brainer, I grew up with the original but don’t have the time or money to buy cartridges.
@yourbusinessvalue
@yourbusinessvalue Жыл бұрын
The fact that the joystick works in Windows is a major selling point for me. Thanks for doing this! I hope someone finds a way to make the paddle compatible.
@Drygon52
@Drygon52 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Now we need to test the analog joystick with 5200 games that use it. I am sure it will not have support, but would be nice. Would also be nice to add a spinner for tempest and the few 2600 games that used the driving contoler like indy 500.
@rameybutler-hm7nx
@rameybutler-hm7nx Жыл бұрын
Hot dang more info!!! My arcade take my money!!!! Hope that adding the roms vid is soon.🎉🎉🎉🎉
@MercedesDieselGuy
@MercedesDieselGuy Жыл бұрын
Here's my updates: I tried a pair of wireless PS4 (no name aftermarket) controllers, and they absolutely did not work. I tried a wireless XBOX One controller (official, not aftermarket) 3:03 and it works fine (when plugged in with a USB cable). However, this controller works fine plugged in even when there are no batteries in it. So, it essentially functions as a wired controller. I wonder how a native wired controller would work. I'm still not getting compatibility with Turbografx roms and the controller, though. Hopefully a future Myarcade firmware update will fix that.
@victormercado4478
@victormercado4478 Жыл бұрын
This would be so cool if the spinner would work on Mame like games Tempest, Frontline...
@TheXTopher74
@TheXTopher74 Жыл бұрын
Since getting the Gamestation Pro, this has been my #1 channel for information, and I hope you will continue investigating 3rd party controller support for this system. I would love any ideas or investigation on whether the 8bitdo Arcade Stick can work with the Gamestation Pro, I can only get button presses to work in the menu, but joystick navigation will not work in spite of the controller supporting X-input mode, and I fully enjoy using this controller with the Atari 50 collection on Steam.
@billysherman2702
@billysherman2702 Жыл бұрын
Great info! This is turning out to be a great system. It looks like MyArcade made a better Flasback than AtGames!
@mechamania
@mechamania Жыл бұрын
To be fair, AtGames’ Atari Flashbacks aren’t a high benchmark, but the point is well-taken...
@dad7275
@dad7275 Жыл бұрын
Here's a good one to try considering and it DOES have paddle controls is the new Atari VCS classic controller. It also probably has as many buttons so it MIGHT just work!? The paddle functionality of the classic VCS controller is what would really intrest me.
@turbinegraphics16
@turbinegraphics16 Жыл бұрын
The VCS paddles work when connected to a pc via bluetooth or usb but they only work correctly in stella.
@MrInjector_yay
@MrInjector_yay Жыл бұрын
I could think that, you could connect another controller with it and it would ask for the buttons or joystick(s) so it can map how it would be compared to the Atari controller. if there was to much buttons it would just remove it as it never existed, and it would also remember certain maps of controls on certain controllers. Like if you connected a hmmm…. A ps4-5 controller? it would remember it for future notice. But for the tech we currently have in 2023 i don’t think we can create a memory card like that. hopefully you read all this and share your opinions bellow! correcting me is accepted here.
@smallspacearcade8158
@smallspacearcade8158 Жыл бұрын
Great follow up Jon. With various Flash Backs and Mini console I'm seeming building a collection of various controllers for each. The pack in Joysticks will still be my preference as im looking for this to just be what i play 2600 games on, still its nice to know that my X-Box controllers can be drafted in if needed. 😊
@jeenkzk5919
@jeenkzk5919 Жыл бұрын
I have a Windows XP computer that I bought at a church sale for five dollars! I then used it for Mame games. It’s a little outdated but it works. I used a controller for it and then my cat chew through the wires and I thought I was screwed for the moment. But then I plugged in both PlayStation mini and Sega genesis minis controllers, and I’ll be damned , it worked. I can’t do any twin state games like Robotron but it’ll definitely hold me over until I find another PlayStation 2 like controller.
@Brianybug
@Brianybug Жыл бұрын
This is great, I was wondering about other controllers! Gonna try it out.
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 6 ай бұрын
Hey Jon! I was wondering if you have tried the Xbox One controller with any SNES games now that the GSP emulates it post-firmware update? Love your channel!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 6 ай бұрын
I have. I cover that (and the challenges) in this follow-up video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m6eJydhJWAbbM Thanks for watching! 😁
@DowntheRabbitHole0
@DowntheRabbitHole0 Жыл бұрын
Any possible steering wheel controllers work on this console? I'd love to play Night Driver 76 with an actual steering wheel (I'm aware it'll likely only be digital left and right but I'd be happy with that).
@mechamania
@mechamania Жыл бұрын
Wondering if a Windows/Mac standard trackball or trackball mouse would work with games like the arcade or 5200 versions of _Missile Command, Centipede, Millipede, Crystal Castles_ and etc - especially because there are so many trackball games in Atari’s early history. Given the 5200 is a reworked Atari 400/800, which do recognize Atari’s trackball not just as a joystick, but also as an arcade-like trackball (using the switch on the back to toggle joystick/trackball input), for most if not all of those games, on an Atari 8-bit (working from 35-40 year-old memories, I remember that at least the OG and XL machines’ _Missile Command, Centipede_ and _Crystal Castles_ all work, as does _Crystal Castles_ on the Atari 2600, actually), then there’s a decent chance that the Gamestation or an emulator could work with a USB trackball, like an arcade trackball, for at least one of the versions on the Gamestation. Considering there are more than two buttons on modern USB trackballs-like controllers-and that they’re “standard sized trackball inputs,” some of those extra buttons might/could also work as Menu, Start, and Home buttons, too - if not for the 5200 games, then maybe for the 2600 or arcade versions. In fact, a mouse might actually work the same way, accounting for speed, which would be a great alternative to using the joystick, too, even if the included joystick accounts for speed, as an analog stick...
@mechamania
@mechamania Жыл бұрын
Also a good point that the spinner on the Gamestation is an analog input. So, that bodes well for at least a driver to accommodate USB trackballs...
@lydiakossow
@lydiakossow Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, 🙂 great demo...thnx again!
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 7 ай бұрын
I just picked up a used GSP for $50 bucks today! I'm going through these old vids because I'm a big ol' 50-year-old nerd!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I hope you find them helpful. 😁
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 7 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Dude, they're amazing! I've already gotten the 1.30 update and I'm adding games! I've not added the 1.30c yet, I've got a gig to play tonight and I'm afraid I won't want to leave my house! :D
@1bigoptimus
@1bigoptimus Жыл бұрын
Great video! This does not influence whether I get the system or not but it is good to know that something else works. I have it on preorder. I don't plan on using another controller unless the game becomes really awkward. Nothing is more nostalgic than using a joystick to play classic Atari games.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate you watching. 😃
@PeBoVision
@PeBoVision Жыл бұрын
Or, as with Battle Zone and Robotron, two controllers duct-taped together. (I'm Canadian, duct tape is a multi-tool)
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 Жыл бұрын
I think it's hyperkin, that make the trooper or trooper 2 Atari joystick. I almost got it for PC to play Atari stuff, I wasn't sure if it had enough buttons.
@ASalvaro
@ASalvaro Жыл бұрын
i've been looking for an USB joystick for my PC and this would be perfect...thanks for the video!
@jayme69
@jayme69 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jon. X-Input should be good for USB Arcade/Fight Sticks :-) Thanks for sharing and keep up the awesome work!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@jimcampbell
@jimcampbell Жыл бұрын
If someone made an adapter to use traditional atari controllers I’d be all in on this. Someone please make a 3rd party product! Maybe even throw in extra inputs for Nintendo etc. I can dream right?
@OrdoNekro
@OrdoNekro Жыл бұрын
What a great time to be an Atari fan
@brqk3n
@brqk3n Жыл бұрын
Im curious on the gamestation pro controller how it behaves when its plugged into the Atari VCS! I know its not exactly what you show here, but i want to k ow if i can buy those controllers to use on my VCS. Thanks for any insight!
@seanjorden8492
@seanjorden8492 Жыл бұрын
For some reason my comments keep disappearing - anyways tested with standard XBox 360 wireless controller, plugged in without batteries. Everything worked great except for Home - XBox logo button did not seem to do anything. No more controller lag!
@m0nde
@m0nde 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, the one thing I wanted to use was the paddle and even in the Gamestation, Tempest Arcade, unfortunately, doesn't use the paddle knob. I do hope someone writes a custom driver that takes advantage of part of the stick.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Tempest doesn't utilize the paddle because it requires a spinner - full 360 non-stop rotation.
@m0nde
@m0nde 10 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp thx, that makes sense.
@TheAtariCreep
@TheAtariCreep Жыл бұрын
Curious if the VCS modern controller works with it? This was fun, thanks for taking the time.
@dad7275
@dad7275 Жыл бұрын
Just as interesting is the classic style vcs controller because it does have paddle functionality too.
@TheAtariCreep
@TheAtariCreep Жыл бұрын
@@dad7275 ohhhhhh ya!
@decadentdave
@decadentdave Ай бұрын
I tried connecting my 8bitDo 2.5 ghz wireless using the USB dongle going USB to USB-C adapter. It sort of worked. I had directional control but no buttons worked. However it worked perfectly fine when I connected the controller directly to the GSP with USB.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Ай бұрын
I've seen similar results.
@videostash413
@videostash413 Жыл бұрын
Props on an ad that's not annoying or too long! That's a PS4 controller by the way (the touchpad gives it away).
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Thanks - we're trying to stay above water but definitly try to keep ads super short and to the point. Glad that's working. I have since learned that's a PS4 controller... I obviously don't have much knowledge of Playstation! 😜
@zephyrsonzephyrson8618
@zephyrsonzephyrson8618 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. In my top three of possible cons for this comsole was controller replacement issues/possibilities. An Xbox controller will suit me fine when I feel like it might be best to preserve the integrity of the sticks that come with the console. Let's face it, joysticks designed like this, these days, break. I would prefer that My Arcade offer replacements and I've put in an inquiry to find that out, but in the meantime, it's great to know that I have alternatives. I'm running out of reasons not to buy this. Being in Canada, I'm having issues with that (as of yeaterday) and still a bit on the fence. My other major issue is that the paddle doesn't work with paddles games, should I get into the SD card. The SD card is the biggest selling point for me because I already have the Flashback 9 Gold, by Atgames. It too has an SD card slot, which I am using so I have more than half of the games available on this. That means I care most about 5200 options, 7800 options, 8bit, 16bit, and arcade. I already have a bootleg nintendo with 300 games on it so that doesn't help this cause but at least I can narrow down my 8bit list to games I will actually play, on this console...that helps in the end. So I'm bouncing ideas around. I'm looking for reasons not to buy but I'm running out of reasons. This video is very helpful. I'll share what My Arcade tells me about my inquiry here, IF they respond. I had similar inquiries in to AtGames and they never responded...bastards. lol. Anyways your GSP vids have been excellent. I was available to enjoy the live stream two days ago and even watched it again yesterday to make notes and I don't have many, so that's a good thing. ✌
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and I'm very gratified to know I'm helping you to make an educated buying decision that's right for you! 😀
@marcofeibel1364
@marcofeibel1364 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I would be interested how the Atari VCS Controllers like the Classic Controller and the Modern Controller are working with the Gamestation pro? And if, does the paddle function of the Classic work, too?
@victormercado4478
@victormercado4478 Жыл бұрын
I'm always in AWE when I see the Steve Austin action figure on your shelf along with Oscar Goldman and Mask-a-tron.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
😀 I've even featured Steve in a few of my videos in the past. Most recently last Christmas for the Hallmark ornament.
@e815usa
@e815usa Жыл бұрын
I just got my Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG recommended, as well as the charging cable he recommended. I can say without a doubt that it works great! The big lit X serves as the reset button. The only thing I recommend is removing the paddles from the bottom of the controller because they can cause the Save button functionality to pop up a lot if you press the paddle by accident. Removing the paddles from the controller took care of this. They are fully removeable and go right in the carry case. All the paddles do is mimic the A, B, or C buttons anyway, so for me they weren't of any use. I will still use the controllers that came with the Gamestation Pro for 2600, 5200, and 7800 games. But for Genesis, NES, and Arcade games, the Xbox controller can't be beat! Yes it's more expensive than the Gamestation Pro itself. But I felt the cost was worth it because I know I won't get tired of the system now that I have a decent controller where I didn't have to feel awkward using the built in controllers, and did not have to remap any buttons for the Xbox controller! I am also guessing that any Xbox controller with a USB-C connector will work. But I did not want to take a chance and went with the Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG used in this video.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Remember that you can remap those buttons on the elite and create a variety of profiles to switch between on the fly (NES layout? Genesis layout?). 😀
@e815usa
@e815usa Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp That's good to know. I'll have to figure that out since the Xbox manual didn't give those instructions, unless I missed it.
@Chekmate99
@Chekmate99 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately I can’t get my Series 2 controller to work - after plugging it in just no response - did you use the usb cable that came with your controller with a converter to plug into the usb-c jack in the console? or used a third party usb-c to usb-c cable? or configure the controller before using? thanks
@e815usa
@e815usa Жыл бұрын
@Chekmate99 I used the cable that came with the controller and a usb to usb-c adapter I bought pff Amazon.
@Chekmate99
@Chekmate99 Жыл бұрын
@@e815usa thanks for replying! I’ll give that a go as I used a usb-c to usb-c from Walmart - thanks
@zombos22222
@zombos22222 3 ай бұрын
the joystick looks perfect for dragons lair, left,right,up,down and the B button on the top of the stick for sword
@comicschris77
@comicschris77 Жыл бұрын
@GenXGrownUp Have you tried any other 2.4 Ghz controllers wirelessly? Just wondering if that is possible, I know 8bitDo makes some for Switch that are 2.4
@StevieRayLou
@StevieRayLou Жыл бұрын
I want the original arcade Battlezone.
@d.aardent9382
@d.aardent9382 Жыл бұрын
I just saw a gamer modder channel and he was showing a controller frame a company was making 3d printed, that locks the two gsp controllers side to side and he was playing Battlezone that had the original vector graphics, it looked exactly like original. So i guess ya can find the program through some of the providers. I cant recall the name of the peripheral company, i will get the name and add it on here.
@LouMarcotte
@LouMarcotte 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@d.aardent9382Did you find the peripheral company name?
@tonyrich402
@tonyrich402 Жыл бұрын
This controller looks to be very promising to use with the Arcade version of Tron in some capacity. I would like to see that tested at some point.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Could be quite good. That'll require either a driver to try this on a PC, or an update to the GSP firmware to enable paddle control on games added via SD card.
@JGKingCrusher
@JGKingCrusher 6 ай бұрын
That is cool. I really need one of those systems!
@PCKid32
@PCKid32 Жыл бұрын
Quite fascinating. Would like to have seen how it worked with Missile Command controlling bases individually on the Xbox controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
You're the second to suggest that and that was a total miss on my part. I'll remedy it just as soon as I can!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Did a quick update: kzbin.info1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
@CapnCavMan
@CapnCavMan Жыл бұрын
If someone figures out paddle, spinner, trakball support it'll be a must buy.
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 11 ай бұрын
Working on it :)
@kevindickinson4867
@kevindickinson4867 Жыл бұрын
I bought an Xbox XJS controller from Amazon for $44, plus 10' usb c to c cables. The controller works great too. I did discover that I had to unplug the controller first , then turn on the Atari GSP, then I could plug in the Xbox controller and it functioned perfectly. I just read here that the xbox center button works as the home button. I will try that today. I just added some Genesis games and having a blast playing Pitfall, Earthworm Jim and Road Rash II.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Would you please send me a link to the controller you've verifed to be working? KZbin may trap it for review, but I'll see it. Thanks.
@TheChcltdlux1
@TheChcltdlux1 Жыл бұрын
Yes please share the link or pic. Thanks
@jettp3810
@jettp3810 Жыл бұрын
I’m a 50 something year old gamer. The Atari 2600 was my first console. I am looking at this and the Atari 2600 plus. I am not sure what console is the best for me.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Understandable. I don't intend to take sides, but I do plan to do a pre-release comparison video of the two and weigh their pros & cons.
@Omn1Slash
@Omn1Slash 6 ай бұрын
Hey great video and I made sure to subscribe! I know I'm a little late to the party, but did you mention or test the spinner with emulation? Particular with MAME or arcade emulation for Arkanoid, etc?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 6 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome! I have several follow-up videos that you'll no doubt find useful, but on the topic of the paddle, it's not observed in arcade emulation. Arcade games had spinners whereas the GSP's controllers have paddles. The non-stop nature of a spinner makes paddles with hard-stops sadly incompatible.
@Omn1Slash
@Omn1Slash 6 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp that makes sense. I was looking for a quick way to add Atari 2600 paddle to emulation and maybe spinner games to my existing arcade so figured I'd check. Also, I did see the Gamestation Pro on sale so I've been catching alot of your content and review of it. I appreciate the explanation!
@Enriqueguiones
@Enriqueguiones Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I think the controllers are quite cool. I don't see the point on using "my own". My main problem with the unit is that it contains less than 140 Atari games (no Pitfall, no Ninja Golf) and 60+ Piko games I already own on the Evercade.
@guyonphilippe2223
@guyonphilippe2223 Жыл бұрын
Hello , great review by the way ! Any chance on testing the Xbox 360 wired controller, there’s a good chance many viewers have one !
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I knew that would be a common one out there, but I don't have a genuine one handy. I did have a knock-off that I tested (not in this video) and it did nearly nothing, so I didn't include it. I don't know if that's representative of Xbox 360 controllers in general or not, though. I suspect this aftermarket version didn't have Xinput protocol compatibility.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 Жыл бұрын
Two questions. Is there any sort of controller remapping? I'm left handed. I think I would like to use the "B" button as the main fire button in 2600 games. When you add 5200 games, does the stock stick work an analog joystick or strictly digitial?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
All bad news for you currently. No remapping available at the moment, and I found added 5200 games that required analog control to not be very playable.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Oh that's a shame. Hopefully those issues can be fixed in firmware updates. I'm assuning that you can update the firmware, correct? What about using an Xbox One controller? Does the left stick work? You showed the dpad which is great. Does the left stick work too?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@SatoshiMatrix1 Indeed, I have updated the firmware a couple times. That's right - note toward the end I play Yars' and show using the left analog as well as d-pad.
@ShadeofJeremy
@ShadeofJeremy Жыл бұрын
Cool to learn this. I don't think it will have any impact on my decision though. I don't have any other types of controllers anyway. And I don't see me buying them either. But it is fascinating to know that some others will work with it.
@Jalbaholica
@Jalbaholica Жыл бұрын
Have you, or anyone else, tried the Modern and Classic controllers that came with the Atari VCS? Would seem to make sense to have compatibility with other Atari products.
@miked4377
@miked4377 Жыл бұрын
very good...hey love your atari hat jon! i love japan as well . . and there rich gaming retro hardware and soft....the control issue is better now !
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think I picked it up on a fire sale when they were closing down the Think Geek website.
@robert_roland63
@robert_roland63 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got another experiment for using a controller to the GameStation Pro. I have an Xbox controller (model # 1537) that uses a USB-A dongle when I’ve used this in my PC. It makes me wonder how well it will perform with that USB-A to USB-C adapter. Would it work the same as wired?
@esmith13
@esmith13 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me then a good "universal" option for "Bring your own bluetooth controller" would be an 8bitdo original red brick usb adapter in X-Input mode. That perfectly emulates XB360/XBOne controllers and will connect with a rather extensive list of Bluetooth controllers from many manufacturers. You then get to maintain wireless play as well... I also can't wait to try my MadCatz Arcade GameStick (XB360 usb joystick with a spinner).
@LeaderDessler
@LeaderDessler Жыл бұрын
This is the MOST important thing for me. I was actually wondering if there might be a wireless option. This could be it. Thanks!
@LeaderDessler
@LeaderDessler 9 ай бұрын
I finally got around to buying the USB 8BitDo Wireless Adapter 2 and it partially works with an Xbox One controller, but not 100%. Did you find wireless controller that’s 100% compatible?
@mddarfus
@mddarfus 3 ай бұрын
Any chance the new wireless controllers that Atari is releasing with the 7800+ might work with the GSP?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 3 ай бұрын
I'd be very surprised, but maybe using the USB dongle?
@JohnSciaccaWriter
@JohnSciaccaWriter Жыл бұрын
Ordered a couple of 10-foot USB C-C cables to connect my Xbox X controller. Do you know if the C button (trigger button on the pack in controller) maps to any Xbox button? I find the included remote SO maddening to use, I’m hoping I can ditch it for everything but the paddle games. Thanks for all the great videos!!!!
@KeenRetroGames
@KeenRetroGames Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Thanks!
@JRthepyroguy
@JRthepyroguy Жыл бұрын
I have a Bluetooth dongle controller that I use on my pc. I'm definitely going to try it on it when I get mines.
@mikekitterman5800
@mikekitterman5800 Жыл бұрын
I am curious if there is any compatibility with retro arcade controllers? Have you tried any Arcade cabinet controls with this system?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I've tried lots of stuff including 8bitdo and some random controllers that came with other products, but nothing so far beats that wired Xbox One controller for me.
@Bikeguychicago1
@Bikeguychicago1 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Xbox One controller with the Genesis games (like Immortal or Zany Golf) or with the NES games?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I didn't do a full multi-system test, but I would expect the same compatibility on those games as the others since they're invoking the same configured emulator.
@jameshaslam2048
@jameshaslam2048 10 ай бұрын
Are there any recommended arcade-style joysticks to use with the Gamestation Pro?
@jamesmcmillan7845
@jamesmcmillan7845 Жыл бұрын
Got a PDP Rematch XBOX wired controller. No lag and works perfect! $33 on Amazon. This controller completely changed my overall opinion of the GS Pro to positive. I would rather they provide one good analog controller rather than the two laggy crap controllers. Now I just need to find a good paddle wheel and maybe a ball controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Can you provide a link to the exact model you found to work well? KZbin may flag a comment with a link in it, but I will catch it.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I saw your note, but not the link. May I ask you to email to me? jon@genxgrownup.com - Thanks!
@brianmesarosh1266
@brianmesarosh1266 Жыл бұрын
Will you do a video or know of a controller that can be used on the gsp for the nes roms?​@@GenXGrownUp
@sys5907
@sys5907 Жыл бұрын
Does the ATARI GAMESTATION PRO controller have X input when connected wired?? Wireless connection is D input? Isn’t the ATARI GAMESTATION PRO controller sold separately?? This time I bought a Hyperkin Atari USB controller, but I had a problem because it didn't have X input
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
It recognizes controllers which use the X-Input protocol.
@justinvhammond
@justinvhammond Жыл бұрын
So . . . where didja get that cool 2600 skin for your Xbox Controller?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I knew somebody would ask! www.decalgirl.com/artwork/5428/wooden-gaming-system
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note that if you change the colour of the colour ring on the controller and it's connected to your PC, I believe button 9 'latches' when you select white, and button 10 'latches' when you selected orange. It might be the other way around. I don't understand why the A, B and C buttons aren't simply mapped to 1, 2 and 3, and I don't know why the paddle control isn't mapped to a throttle or something. Since the Gamestation Pro doesn't work too well with the Retro Games Gamepad for the A500 Mini, I have doubts that The Joystick for TheC64 will work too. I really want to try my Logitech F710 controller with the console, but I don't have the correct adaptor right now.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the color latching inputs. That's interesting. In fairness, the controller wasn't marketed as being compatible with PC, so My Arcade is well within their rights to utilize the inputs however it works for them.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp That's true. It's easy to tell that the input is latched actually, because if you select a colour then turn off the controller but leave the console on, the lights on the console revert back to the colour changing mode. I've only put batteries in one of my controllers, but I'm curious to discover whether changing the colours on one controller will automatically change the colours on the other controller too, even if you don't press the light button on the second controller. I'm also a little surprised the the console and controllers don't remember what colour setting you selected when you turn them all off, that said, it makes sense now since the controller latches the inputs when you change the colour mode.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried plugging the GSP's joystick into your A500 Mini? Last night I plugged it into TheC64, which is a Commodore 64 replica also made by Retro Games. And, it worked! Yes! I couldn't believe it. I probably wouldn't recommend using it because the button mapping is a bit odd and confusing, but it does work.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it, but since it's recognized by my PC, I would epect it to behave similarly on compatible devices. That's cool. 😀
@APAC2002
@APAC2002 Ай бұрын
I wish you had some arcade sticks to test on it like the 8bitdo ones.
@cwp1409
@cwp1409 Жыл бұрын
In theory then the 8bitdo arcade stick should work. That could be fun for the arcade games (or any of them). Cant wait to get mine and test
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I wish I could've tried an 8bitdo, but both of mine are fully wireless. Those would be a great option if they work well.
@MistaWells
@MistaWells 5 ай бұрын
can you test using the 8bitdo M30? I'm curious to see if the included 2.4ghz adapter will work on the gamestation pro. also is there a way to map controls on the pc so they register correctly on the console?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 5 ай бұрын
Afraid I don't own that controller. I tried a number of 8BitDo controllers with dongles and didn't have any success.
@MistaWells
@MistaWells 5 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp do they work with cables?
@victormercado4478
@victormercado4478 4 ай бұрын
Curious would the "Stadia" controller?
@dancero643
@dancero643 Жыл бұрын
i like the console design but the joystick... i'm curious how the asteroids (arcade) works with that joystick. does it control the same as the 2600 version? is the control mapped to work with only one button (fire)?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
It varied from controller to controller, but the Xbox One had A & B for sure (I don't remember if I tested for the third button) as I use them both in the video.
@BillWillyBillyBill
@BillWillyBillyBill Жыл бұрын
Would the XBox controller work better with SNES games like Street Fighter II on GSP? Those titles are missing XYZ buttons.
@DuckMcKrush
@DuckMcKrush Жыл бұрын
I have 10 different controllers in my house and none of them work with the GSP. Almost $200 for an Xbox Elite controller is way too pricey for my budget. It's my only complaint. They fixed all of my other issues with the latest firmware update. Now if they could give us some more compatibility and button mapping options it a true winner. I only play the paddle games with their controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to buy an Xbox Elite JUST for GSP play. I hear PS4 & PS5 controllers do great, but I don't own one yet to test with.
@jackmcslay
@jackmcslay Жыл бұрын
Quite odd the GSP controller reports so many buttons, maybe they used a generic firmware for a dual analog controller and didn't bother changing? I think it would be worth checking the GSP controller with more systems, like the raspberry pi, android and gamepad-compatible browser games.
@darkwombat333
@darkwombat333 Жыл бұрын
Do we know if the Gamestation Pro controllers work while plugged in? Sorry if it was mentioned already.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Do they work plugged into what?
@DryPaperHammerBro
@DryPaperHammerBro Жыл бұрын
​@@GenXGrownUpProbably meant plugged into the system itself, so that you can use them whilst charging
@darkwombat333
@darkwombat333 Жыл бұрын
@@DryPaperHammerBro yes thats what I meant
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, I'd figure compatibility hinged on XInput support. It used to be that you could just plug in a USB controller and the system would recognize it, at least as far as the most standard inputs. Then Microsoft introduced XInput, and even though it offered no advantaged over DirectX, developers soiled themselves with joy over it, and it suddenly became the must-have feature in everything game related.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I arrived at the same conclusion.
@TheGIChef
@TheGIChef Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on using an X-Arcade Tankstick?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I don't have one - does it support X-Input?
@The_PotatoLord
@The_PotatoLord 15 күн бұрын
This may be a long shot, but has anyone found or made a driver/ firmware update that allows the use of the paddle nob for PC?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 15 күн бұрын
Not that I'm aware of, no.
@georgedidomenico8548
@georgedidomenico8548 Жыл бұрын
I purchased an xbox controller to try with the updated to 1.30 on the gamestation pro. I got it to work somewhat. Not all the buttons work as your video did. I saw you find out what buttons do what from the joystick and was wondering if I was able to assign the same imputs of the joystick to an xbox controller so I am emulating the joystick. I did confirm the power problem and got a controller that is battery operated. If I can remap, can you point me to a how to do it guide. I have never done it before.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
There's no way to remap buttons from the GSP currently. I talk about this in the latest SD card (post firmware) video.
@1970cougar
@1970cougar Жыл бұрын
Does the xbox elite controller have any delay issues like the wireless controller that comes with it? It is unfortunate that we need to buy a 3rd party controller that costs twice as much as the GSP.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
None that I've noticed. Additionally, I'm hearing that if you hardwire the GSP controller, the wireless latency vanishes.
@RetroWaveArcades
@RetroWaveArcades Жыл бұрын
I need to know where or how to get this CX40 joystick. I really do
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I put a link in the description, but to the modern version. Sadly, I can no longer seem to find exactly the one I have on Amazon or anywhere.
@RetroWaveArcades
@RetroWaveArcades Жыл бұрын
@GenXGrownUp if you refer to those hyperkin trooper one and two I have seen that they breaks as hell. Lots of pictures of broken levers. I will pass on those ones
@warrencdent
@warrencdent 7 ай бұрын
Many of these could be great though, if remapped?
@djsirius6694
@djsirius6694 Жыл бұрын
I bought this to relive some childhood memories. I found the joy stick and paddle to have terrible response time no matter what sensitivity setting changed to. I may have to try a different controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Do you have a 2.4Ghz wifi network? I've heard of interference as a possibility.
@djsirius6694
@djsirius6694 Жыл бұрын
I do but I am not near any of my access points if that means anything. Also just received my usb c cables and while plugging into the console, I can navigate on the menu of games but when I start a game to play, the joystick or paddle stops responding.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@djsirius6694 Goodness! Must be a defective component - I've never seen so much as a single disconnect.
@phattyboombatty
@phattyboombatty Жыл бұрын
8:33 I tried my PS3 controller, just to see if I could save a few bucks (those Xbox controllers are $60 bucks). It’s a no-go. I set the PS3 controller up on my Win10 PC to test, and everything’s golden. Also, the PS3 controller would not register or charge in USB-C port 1. But I did get it to show up, charge, and register with a solid “1” LED on GSP’s USB-C port 2, but it obviously requires drivers to work. 😢
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I've heard PS4 and PS5 perform well. I don't own either to test though.
@phattyboombatty
@phattyboombatty Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply, Jon. After cross referencing your red PS controller with those listed on eBay, it appears you do have a PS4 controller there. :)
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@phattyboombatty I do? I've never owned a PS4 before so I'm not sure how. 😀
@KLund1100
@KLund1100 Жыл бұрын
from this video and most of the comments below, this topic need much further review, and expansion to paddles/spinners/trackballs/tanksticks. Plus not noted, only wired controllers will work with this A-GSP. Also found elsewhere, battery state will effect function. Also found elsewhere, variations of the same model controller may work differently. Again much more testing and review is needed. Have you played Atari today !!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Indeed! As I learn definitive information I've been adding to the pinned comment.
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe Жыл бұрын
Have you plug the Game station Pro to a computer via usb and what was the result?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I was plugged into a small four-port hub for this video. Worked fine.
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Not the controller but the system.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@MarcusBeebe Ah, I see. Yes, I have connected it to the PC in order to update the firmware.
@brianmcwhorter1682
@brianmcwhorter1682 Жыл бұрын
Look at your hitchhiker thumbs! You are such a nerd! I❤U!
@esmith13
@esmith13 Жыл бұрын
Did you also try playing games with A, B & C from various systems (since there are multiple different emulators in play)? Like Missile Command, a Genesis game and an Arcade Game? Oh and two button support for 7800 as well of course.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Yes, the compatibility was uniform across all platforms. Not every controller had every button available, as you saw, but with the Xbox One, I had all three buttons represented (not just in the order you might expect).
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
This may help: kzbin.info1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
@melissahumes4912
@melissahumes4912 4 ай бұрын
Has anyone found a combination to wirelessly connect the 8BITDO bluetooth dongle 2 and any other controller to work properly for SNES games? Or any combination of the 8BITDO dongle 2 and another "thing" to work? I have two 8BITDO 2 dongles and two of their wireless 8BITDO SN30 pro controllers but am willing to buy different controllers to be able to normally play alllllll my Mario and Donkey Kong SNES games. I sit entirely too far away from the TV and have little ones running around and wired is just not much of an option for me. Any guidance would be appreciated.
@erick-veruvalderrama7725
@erick-veruvalderrama7725 Жыл бұрын
Hello - I do have an XBox One S Controller. What cable do I use to connect to Atari Gamestation Pro? I already know the other end to be USB-C, but I do not know what the other end is that connects to the XBox One S Controller. Thank you.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
Hey. You can see in my controller video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHWUg4SVaNR-apI), how I use a USB-C-to-USB-C cable to connect my Xbox One controller to the GSP.
@fletcherchambers7175
@fletcherchambers7175 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, someone has got to get the paddle knob working when using emulators... That controller w/Retropie would be awesome!
@MichaelSG68
@MichaelSG68 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. After watching I used windows to map my Xbox and a wired SNES controller I have. The SNES was what I was hoping would work, for the NES games or SNES if anyone gets that working. But the D-pad is treated as analog x/y instead of the POV-Hat making it useless, plus while Button C=#1 and B=#2 are workable (on the SNES X and A buttons,) there is nothing on the controllers to match button 7 for the all important "A" button. Anyone know of a SNES/NES controller where the D-pad is assigned to the POV-Hat function instead of an analog stick? I'm thinking 8bitdo might since it has both, but I don't have one.
@Metal-Josh
@Metal-Josh Жыл бұрын
So since is a low voltage device, can this run a wireless X Input using a usb dongle? My X Input controller is a wireless Logitech f710. Why I ask this is because I have an AtGames Genesis Flashback (sd card one) and I also have a RetroBit wireless Genesis controller. The dongle doesn’t work unless I supply the dongle with its own power. I assume the 5v power cant deliver the juice to the dongle. Will something like that work on the GSP?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
I don't have any electrical specifications - only anecdotal observations. I've tested lots of controllers and just haven't found any that I own which are more compatible than the Xbox one I show in this video. The answers to your question may just require some trial and error testing.
@Metal-Josh
@Metal-Josh Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUpthanks pal. I do appreciate you answering my question from an older video too
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
@@Metal-Josh For sure. I try to keep up with comments as best as I can! 😁
@chrisshaw451
@chrisshaw451 5 ай бұрын
Can I ask which buttons you need to press on the Xbox controller to load from an SD Card ?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 5 ай бұрын
@@chrisshaw451 START & MENU: The two flanking the Xbox button
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe Жыл бұрын
The spinner is analog input...
@torgod13
@torgod13 Жыл бұрын
What about 5200 number pad support?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Жыл бұрын
You'd need a way to plug it in first. 🤔
@torgod13
@torgod13 Жыл бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp well, then 5200 support is extremely limited.
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