Extreme Weapon 2015 ATA ESPN Invitational

[@vasileoctavianpop7703]

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[@wimnnews]

Happiness is the real sense of fulfillment that comes from hard work.

[@izzymore470]

I'm on a quest to end this dumb war people have against extreme weapons performances and other types of extreme martial arts. Like no shit you wouldn't use flashy technique in real fights, but spinning and tricking in various types of training or forms is a good way to show off your true potential and help train yourself to have better control over your weapon.

[@pt3800]

... just untill someone just hold something into the rotation or kicks you while your weapon is flying through the air. Especially with a katana the grip is very important. A loose or wrong grip would cause in the blade breaking or getting uncontrolable at contact. Also... those who create and perform those demonstrations never put the performence in a context... it is no "shadow-boxing" at all; meaning there is no imaginary interacting opponent. They could at least choreograph 50% into an interaction with an imaginary opponent. So it is basicly just juggling a weapon. You can see be observing their eyes/head. They just don't see an opponent... and that is notonly those two but all of them! Somebody who controlles his weapon (even a gun) does not look at his weapon, but at his target/opponent. That is the big difference between controll and playing arround. It's basicly rhythm gymnastic with a weapon instead of a ball or those other tools.

[@carlos_garcia]

you are right there are different categories for the more traditional ones, extreme weapons kata, traditional weapons kata, that-s why there is a distinction

[@slimjim7411]

Being honest it's more practical since in todays world you're probably more likely to get a job doing choreography for some kung fu marvel dead head movie than to actually defend yourself with a sword, or any martial arts weapons for that matter.

[@NotEbugaming]

It is vapid, imprecise and teaches horrible habits. For the rest of us who actually enjoy true martial arts, we have to suffer with getting lumped in with you lot.

[@SantoHanno]

The problem many people have with XMA is that it isn't martial arts in any remote sense. Outside of these competitions, XMA performances are regularly used as advertising for McDojos that endanger their students with low-quality "self-defense" techniques. XMA is another component of the McDojo marketing apparatus that is only allowed be considered martial arts by a general public that has been so thoroughly conned by that apparatus that they are convinced anybody swinging around something in a Gi is a legitimate source of martial knowledge. Even here, you claim that these demonstrations help you train weapon control, but just watching the sword sections reveals that to be false. None of the competitors here demonstrate even an attempt to maintain edge-alignments through their strikes. Maybe you know something I don't, but if you definitely can't execute a cut with a sword I don't think you have control of that weapon. People that do XMA regularly claim that their made-up techniques have roots in actual fighting, but any time they try to explain how they fall apart immediately. If the public-facing students and instructors in these martial arts schools are so readily willing to propagate lies, it undercuts their legitimacy. Additionally, pushing these as martial arts is deleterious to real weapons based martial arts and other gymnastic disciplines. Real weapon schools are extremely hard to come by, and that has a lot to do with the public perception of weapons usage pushed by XMA and Kung-Fu movies. I can easily find 10 Karate schools that teach XMA or creative weapons forms within a 20 minute drive of my suburban home, but the nearest legitimate weapon school is a single sport fencing club 15 minutes out. I live in one of the largest metro areas in the US and if I wanted something more martially valid or with a living lineage, like Kendo, I am stuck driving a minimum of 45 minutes each way. Traditional Kenjutsu is nearly impossible for me to access, and the only real sword school close to me is a HEMA club, and those have massive quality control issues. Gymnastics, colorguard, and even clowning are at best regarded by the general public as physically demanding, but not particularly serious pursuits. Colorguard in particular is often the butt of jokes by people who participate in other physical endeavors, despite the fact that it is more physically demanding than many of these performances, requires a lot of upper body strength and discipline, and actually has a direct relationship to real martial arts practices, unlike XMA. All of these activities are hurting for membership, especially male membership, while XMA's B-tier gymnastics routines are certainly not. XMA is only taken more seriously than them because, again, westerners have been conned into thinking wearing a Gi makes whatever you are doing more badass than it actually is. XMA is not martial arts, it debases actual martial arts, devalues other physical activities, and lets unscrupulous business people turn unwitting kids into marketing tools for their dangerous self-defense classes. There is no benefit offered by XMA that outweighs these negatives.

[@Dogbreathe00]

That was pretty impressive.

[@nateborden3260]

Absolutely there's gonna be a deduction.. I died laughing he was so excited about taking this man's points!

[@camm6439]

Andrea Noonan use to be my karate teacher for about a year

[@mercyscene]

Awesome! Have you ever seen her do this form before?

[@scotthankins4136]

We saw that guy at Kansas City tournament today

[@andiahn8774]

Wow... I want to be as good as her

[@jrmatthee111]

You will. Practice your kata

[@barbapati7158]

don´t try if u wanna have fingers xd better do something safer

[@donniemader8037]

I actually do karate

[@camm6439]

She used to be my instructor. I can tell you right now, that’s not possible😂

[@jalstro]

@@barbapati7158 just use a blade that isn't the sharp and you're good

[@rogerpatrick5884]

Foi um show perfeito prosperidade e darmas a vocês!

[@tiennguyenquoc400]

Teacher, can you make a clip to teach this sword lesson step by step for me and everyone to follow along with you?

[@JohnDoe-q5n]

She is a fraud, this Not Japanese Swordsmanship, in fact it is a mockery of Japanese Swordsmanship, history and culture. Why are these people so disrespectful to Japanese culture?

[@wolflarsen1900]

where does that sport come from. Looks like a combo of akrobatics, juggling, and katana strikes. Its like a better version of Kata for Katana enthusiasts (Kata ist pretty unimpressive in comprehension to that)

[@bathtubbarracuda2581]

that's because kenjustu kata were based on actual wartime situations in the 1500s-1800s period

[@UnknownUnknown-qx2lx]

Excuse me, anyone can say me which katana is used in this exhibition please? Weight, material, when i can buy it ecc.. Thank you very much 🙏🏽

[@dhadao]

Yes polished aluminum junk katana for non combative sport competition.

[@morganpeel7423]

Lol yes, we use plastic or aluminum swords for tournaments for safety in case the user drops or throws them by accident. You wouldn’t want a real sword in those situations.

[@bathtubbarracuda2581]

nobody wants to clean up a chopped arm off the floor

[@UnknownUnknown-qx2lx]

@mick jagger @Morgan Peel Where* (damned t9). Happy to see your answers. I'm having some problems to find a store that ship to my country these katana, but now I know exactly that kind, and I'll continue to search

[@tiennguyenquoc400]

Hey, can you make a clip to teach me how to slow down each movement for me and everyone to follow along with you

[@SeanMaxhell]

These people would rock hard at the circus.

[@LegendJoe3063]

Imma more like MMA guy but the mesmerising tricking these guys and guys do is so cool. 👏 👏 👏

[@freddybonilla2472]

Amazing👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@kjntm1706]

may i know what name of this sport ?

[@Phoenix_-zd7ju]

AMAZINGLY DONE SPOT ONNN!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@aspendeslongchamps4029]

Are these pre-choreographed or are they improvisions??

[@CGJord]

Typically, for Extreme Weapons in ATA, they are pre-choreographed

[@bradcote13]

Wow.... Awesome!

[@stnik944]

her moves were sick

[@pubg_tournament9365]

That's the volcano spirit

[@williampabon6432]

Wow.. amazing control she was amazing

[@williampabon6432]

@Kenjutsu Tengu why would you say that? I think she was great.

[@angelHernandez-no4zx]

@@williampabon6432 she isnt man that,s just show

[@williampabon6432]

@@angelHernandez-no4zx just show? That takes skill. Anyone can practice for a show not everyone could do that.

[@tonygunk4793]

@@williampabon6432 yes it takes skill. But not swordsmanship

[@supermufasa21]

😂 that is not the ATA tournaments I used to win in. Jeeze...

[@BU_IDo]

If I did any of this with a sharp Katana they'd have to come and shovel me in a bucket and taken me off the stage when I am done.

[@peterjanjanin9883]

She's most likely using an Iaito

[@davepoulton7530]

is your name Jessie from Britains got talant??????? 2015 and ????????

[@nancycejari7635]

So proud of this little girl !!!

[@barryb4407]

Can't you be proud of all the competitors? They each did very well.

[@isek7228]

@@barryb4407 Karen spotted!

[@barryb4407]

@@isek7228 True!

[@quesder]

Are they doing the same form?

[@crusoevanfloyd9888]

Not the same form but the same style it is a freestyle tournament of the "gum do" which is the Songham Taekwondo Korean sword art. They are competing for who has the best freestyle form.

[@robinhawkes1744]

how heavy are theese swords?

[@cyphervistag7528]

2 kilo

[@robinhawkes1744]

@@cyphervistag7528 ohh ok, thanks👌

[@pasjamiecza6550]

@@cyphervistag7528 No, they are much lighter

[@cyphervistag7528]

@@pasjamiecza6550 it depends my samurai is 2 kilos

[@megaslayercho]

Standard katana is 1kg,with the heaviest katanas I have ever seen in stores beeing 1.3kg. 2kg katana is a custom made thing,not historicly accurate in anyway and it's not really a katana(it's just a big katana look alike,still cool though). Tbh there is a bit of misconception that swords use to be several kg heavy,in reality most swords(not just back in the day,but also today)are rather light with sub 1kg weight. After all the point of the sword is to be a portable light blade made for cuting with quick strikes(basicly a knife with greater range),the hole idea of a sword is to be deadly without beeing too heavy and bulky to carry. If you are gonna use a weapons that's 2-5-10kg heavy,you might aswell use a powerfull blunt weapon(hammers/axes) or a pike/poleaxe of some kind,those were considered war weapons,the kind you would take into battle while wearing full armor aswell,they werent your day to day "ima carry this arround with me anywhere I go" kind of weapons. Judging from their movements I think they are using a regular katana,probably with dull edges(would deffinetly be safer for this kind of "throwing in the air" kind of performance)

[@LetsExplain8]

Best👍

[@DWoo-ke9gb]

I would run. FAST.

[@bikramadhikari4117]

Daniel Simpson 😂😂

[@muhammadaffandi6660]

Like a dog

[@tianiculescu7494]

Adriana is the most beautiful performance I've ever seen in my life !!!!

[@renesosasancarlos3619]

love it saw her like 4 time

[@griffithchen9447]

AWESOME!!!

[@daswordofgork9823]

Well. I just do HEMA and that is a true way to fight and use martial arts with weapons.

[@alterego9395]

Wow! You must be a busy man then. Given all the sword fighting going on in the 21st century🙄

[@ronaldwashington7797]

Well we all know that sword weights a toothpick. I wonder if he do that a real sword?

[@mason_martial_arts]

It is a real sword lmfao

[@valiantia]

I am a Japanese martial artist. They insulted Japanese martial arts with their stupid and childish dances. I am trembling with anger.

[@echo_animates]

This is not Japanese martial arts, and no one claimed it was. Please calm yourself.

[@valiantia]

@@echo_animates If so, they shouldn't be using katanas and kimonos.

[@echo_animates]

@@valiantia I believe they are using a sword technique called Gumdo, which originates in Korea. The sword used commonly in this form is Ssangsoodo, which is very similar to a katana but has a few minor differences. On top of that, these are creative and extreme forms which are specifically created for choreography and handling. There are other categories that involve a more subtle use of the sword.

[@valiantia]

​@@echo_animatesI understand that this could have been based on Kumud. However, in any case, it would be more beneficial to give up the childish, ridiculous and useless dances and learn the orthodox martial arts, and the Japanese would not ridicule them.

[@echo_animates]

@@valiantia I understand where you are coming from, but just as I said before this is a certain division where they practice these choreographed forms more for showing their own potential. Gumdo is practiced generally much more traditionally- with focus on precision and the art of it. This is more of a subclass called creative and Xtreme that use all sorts of weapons in this way, such as the Bo staff and kamas. I can see why this is considered disgraceful to you, but know that this is not considered the standard for true swordsmanship, it is more of a challenging branch that is for show.

[@thirumalmurugan6942]

Beautiful..

[@raymeta5848]

wow songam ATA

[@mc.9839]

I have no problem with extreme weapons. However, maintain some discipline. I don't care about realism that much but, with bladed weapons, at least lead with the sharpened end. Half the swings look like the sword would break if it came into contact because they're slicing sideways.

[@riverlady7023]

❤

[@privateperson299]

I found out that smoking Adriana in a Car race was not the way to score a date with her. Ade, If you ever want to learn to skydive to feel some real speed at 200mp head down without a car shielding your balls from the air speed, then get in touch.

[@pbr2805]

We need people like this to patrol bad neighborhoods at night. That would take care of the criminals. Better then any other form of security. Unless you have a tank to patrol in.

[@katandmart]

How heavy are those katana? Anyone?

[@Satoru_Go-Jo286]

Pretty light.

[@BaddFrogg777]

Truly incredible conditioning, balance, laser focus, and power.

[@vinnster]

GO NOONEN, LOVE SHIVA ❤️

[@SP-rx4tb]

When u let go of your sword you dishonor it and the original style it came from

[@TheOrientalNightFish]

Oh my fucking god hell yeah!

[@SnowTiger45]

Ya but can they carve a Thanksgiving Dinner Turkey ?

[@jeolf8909]

I can't move the mouse pointer!

[@davidemarchi6366]

usefull....

[@chefforthebois8932]

I've met master von schmeling he's awesome

[@lukaskronholm3706]

Looks nice and all, but this isn't fighting. Dont mistake this for martial arts.

[@dannygjk]

You're correct it isn't martial arts.

[@christopherlavs1698]

@@dannygjk It is martial arts, but it isn't fighting. Martial arts is exactly as it's written, both an art and form of combat. Exhibitions like this teach discipline, agility, and control. When coupled with training in actual combat situations, this level of control is beneficial to competitive skill. It's essentially just an exercise to become disciplined with the feeling and weight of a blade, as well as help improve reaction and instinct. I can't speak for these two, as I've not seen them outside this video, but many swordsman with this level of skill are also well versed in sword combat as well.

[@ironhugo7918]

@@christopherlavs1698 you are correct!

[@Lustrum0005]

NINJA!

[@plaidwar]

At the highest degree? These are kids. NOT THE HIGHEST DEGREE.

[@GigaJinGaming3711]

jeff burgess *_THEY ARE FUCKING F I F T H D E G R E E_*

[@dhadao]

@@GigaJinGaming3711 That is funny

[@joshnelson6496]

I do this stuff ya know!

[@privateperson299]

I'd MArry Adriana in a second. That way if i was ever in danger i'd just pull her out of my pocket and let her loose. no seriously, major crush on this chick. She drives cars like lamborghinis drive their dress up closet owners. She kicks Aszs like a gun gives their owners kickback. I'm guessing she wouldn't be my date to my 40th birthday party though, nor would her father walk her down the aisle to a 40 year old wimp

[@Foggy_Mustard]

Don't underestimate the yourself just cause people cannot capture you or what you do.

[@miapadilla644]

The katana sword is for display only 😹 lol don't me

[@fews2]

1:50 3:30

[@nietaangemeld]

Doe rustig man gek!!

[@tarikalakkad2005]

OMG!!!!!

[@zackjames2381]

No respect for the weapon, definitely not way of the sword but a typical western take on showboating and barbarism

[@tadunchama8737]

Do you guys really believe that, you can used this in real fight. 🤔

[@mmldtop6005]

Yes they can. Most people don't even know how to hack using a sword. These guys has a great control using sword. They can probably easily kill with a sword

[@mmldtop6005]

@@kamikaiguy if you practice throwing punches, you can punch and fight. If you haven't even practice throwing punches you literally don't know how to fight. It's the same here. These guys practice sword these are sharp metals, for sure they can hack you to pieces.

[@tonygunk4793]

@@mmldtop6005 this is not real swordsmanship. This is batan twirling. This is swordsmanship - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXjdoq2PaLF2rJI

[@thuhanguyen7094]

With those acrobatic techniques- no. The real samurai sword techniques yes - praticed over 700 years in real wars.

[@Grimharasang]

송암 태권도!

[@jaredlee4730]

But how effective is it in combat

[@sunnymoney7204]

Jared Lee it's not

[@unknowngaming1432]

It would be like the seen from Indiana Jones. Lots of fancy moves but dead almost instantly.

[@kanahasegawa5072]

the point is to show the grace of the art

[@hanburger3554]

it’s a form, forms are just for looking pretty, not for combat

[@halea41]

I would say the speed alone would be pretty effective

[@tomobrien6983]

Oh look, the circus is in town, and the clown car has unloaded!

[@gravierstephane6412]

Pfffff... So far from traditionnal martial arts... Sad to see this....

[@ninasomota8511]

She is so f fast

[@w3155ach]

Carefully timed suriyage would send their swords flying off into far off lands..🤦

[@MrChungnguyen]

like movie star they use aluminium sword ..no one have strong hand enough to use that technique with steel sword .. ..in combat you have to use real steel sword...fake fighting technique

[@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522]

Swords are quite light

[@fredofonzi7864]

Actually, those swords are Made of steel. It can't cut. It isnt heavy. I know it because i used one

[@franciscobaez4495]

Why would you use a sword in combat? In 2020 😂

[@AlIskanderZhao]

Of course its fake fighting technique, he's flipping like a ninja turtle. But that's not the point of this art, is it? If you wanted relatively realistic Japanese sword techniques maybe look for kenjutsu or something. But this, the technique, the coordination, the athleticism, it's just marvellous to see the dedication in their moves.

[@thealarmclock9307]

ITS CHOREOGRAPHY

[@cervantes5180]

Clint Eastwood!!! Bang bang...goodbye....

[@robertwillis4061]

And from the Indiana Jones movie, the baddie pulls out a pistol and shots them in the chest. Actually very well done. More like dancing rather than a Martial art, but I still wouldn't like to try to fight on of them with a sword

[@fredricclack7137]

Wushu+; 🚫 MArts! 😡☯️

[@nobuoando3968]

Ridículo! porém, tem valor pelo “performance”, é o “castigo” para os japoneses que DISTORCEM de tudo em artes marciais do extrangeiro!… 🤣🤣🤣🤣😩

[@iamsobeautifulomg]

dorks lol

[@hollywilson1227]

no one is going to say anything about Geo leon

[@Shanks-Sea-Yonko]

An opponent would'nt have just stood their watching you. The opponent ain't dumb. However, as a traditional kenjutsu high expert, who's surpassed the whole kendo school, will recognize those sword spins. I suggest they never use such tricks in a REAL FIGHT or DUEL with a someone who had extreme knowledge and skill of the way of the sword. Because as they are busy trying to perfectly catch the spinning sword, the opponent might claim theirself a body part. Those skills on thr other hand, enhance your grib, use, and even to make the sword an extension of their body. Once you have achieved that, you gotta be serious.

[@MRSONBS1]

일본도들고 우슈칼춤을 추고 있네 ㅋ

[@yuiratizausman9760]

it's a beautiful move but you can't apply it in actual combat

[@2goblinsinatrenchcoat]

No one is using this in actual combat lmfao.

[@vernonjenkins8]

If they didnt say extreme in the beginning i would be more critical. I want to see a sword form not a acrobat show with a splash of sword technique and miss place screams. You suppose to scream we you attacking not when you twirling you sword and spinning it on your finger. Why we American love remixing other people cultures and for the most part make it worse.

[@christopherlavs1698]

We did "remix" any culture. Acrobatics and competition shows like this are popular in many forms of sword fighting. It's not practical nor used in true competitive sport, but to be able to have this level of physical conditioning, agility, and control over the blade helps to improve your control over a blade in a true combat situation. This is just another exercise and exhibition to show what someone who's skilled at blade work can do with a sword.

[@vernonjenkins8]

@@christopherlavs1698It serves its purpose but its not my cup of tea.

[@christopherlavs1698]

@@vernonjenkins8 that's respectable. Not everyone enjoys the same thing. It's just that too many people (not you) rule this type of exhibition martial arts to be fake or somehow inferior. But, most of these exhibitionists are also classically trained martial artists. Wushu monks do very similar exhibitions in weapon training, and I personally find it to be more interesting to watch. It's less showy and more artistic.

[@vikroy3777]

You got out of bed the wrong way

[@vernonjenkins8]

@viceroy3777 Do the history and understand that this is more entertainment. Hey if this is applicable in a self-defense situation, im not against it but it said weapons form,not gymnastics, acrobatics, a lot of unnecessary screaming and a little bit of weapons. As guest in the house of Asian martial arts can we make improvements on it absolutely, 100% but this not it(I'm entitled to my opinion. ) What I do support is that the participation of this foem of martial science keeps the people healthy, fit and becoming productive citizens in society. Trust its not hate, I watch because I also look to learn and give critical but positive Reinforcement but when did it become you woke up on the wrong side of the bed if you speak truth. 🤔

[@migueloshee536]

Puro ego.

[@chicalipunk1481]

Jajajaja 😛 Hahaha 💩 Jejeje 🤣 O.M.G JAJAJAJA 😝

[@angelHernandez-no4zx]

Thats just pure show they have not real defense abillitys with the sword also they sword is made of alluminiun or another material that make it lighter .They are useless in real combat

[@600hpVR4]

Aldebaran Tauro no shit a Sherlock. It’s an extreme weapons form competition. Who the hell walks around with a sword for self defense anyways...

[@Tkieron]

That intro was so boring that despite searching for this video I got so bored that I turned it off

[@myname-mz3lo]

whitest thing ive seen in a while lol . not a single good aligned swing in the entire thing

[@dsd2680]

Одна показуха.. эти фокусы не помогут.

[@ignacior4625]

Pure bullshit.

[@nylemonday8630]

Go ahead and throw away your saya. If this was real, you would never need it again anyway.

[@karatariazari2963]

Hahaha

[@iysisrose]

boring

[@Someguycook]

It aint skill if u have a very light weighted weapon :/

[@josephportnojgaj7096]

lol they couldn't stand a chance against me, i am a dan in kenjutzu and all these antics in acrobacy he is doing are not worth shit, they might do a nice show in a circus but not in a real fight

[@alejandrokim1626]

Be sick and tired of one´s heart sinks into one´s mouth